Let's Cut Some More Carbon Fiber Projects // CNC Carbon Fiber Custom Drone Frame
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The End Mill I used in the video
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I have a cheap CnC I got from Sainsmart, the 3018 and installed better spindle I got from Banggood. It only goes to 12000 rpm but this is enough. I can now cut 4 mm carbon in one pass at 200mm/minute using the 2mm drillpro end mills.
I ramp down 4.5mm and then one more full pass and that's it!
I am thinking of getting the latest Sainsmart 3018 Prover. Still happy wth your choice? Did you make a water bath? Any learnings you can share?
Hey man. Have you considered putting an inlet and outlet on that water tank? On the outlet side you can have the water run to an aquarium/bucket that houses a pump for recycling the water back to the inlet. Before the pump you can have a gravity fed filter making the debris get caught in the filter.
Where the outlet is, use a stand off that attaches to the bottom of the tray that can be adjusted to raise the water height(go peek at how your toilet builds the water column in the tank yet lets overflow pass once the height gets too high).
You could change the water height in your system to properly cover whatever thickness of plate you are using.
Then in the inlet side you can use aquariun stile flex tube(also used in machining collant hoses) to bring the water flow to the top of the build plate giving positive water flow across the top of the surface allowing for constant/clear viewing of the work piece.
These are all plans I have in my head for when I get my CNC mill and do submerged milling.
I use the more expensive Amana carbon fiber/composite bits, about $30 each, and cut at 18,000 rpm at 35 ipm full depth, one pass, into 3mm carbon fiber. My CNC is not the hobby grade and has a 4hp, 24,000 max rpm water cooled spindle on it. Your edges are the result of chatter and not enough rpm. If you need something cut let me know.
@Roc FPV Conventional works just fine with the Amana bits. I get a nice , smooth cut but I fixture my parts very well so there's no movement or vibration.
Ok, I think this is crazy cool! I make a lot of composite parts for many model vehicles and recently picked up a small cnc machine for the purpose of cutting carbon fiber. I designed some alignment jigs on shapr3d and 3dp’d them so I can 2-side machine my stuff. Anyway, I went and bought the same exact end mill bits and was curious about feed rate/plunge and rpm. Then BOOM, here I am clicking on your video, courtesy of a youtube algorithm. This was perfect! Thanks for the content😎
My settings for carbon sheets. Stay with the 1.5mm bit over all profiles.
All internal cuts first. One tab for internal parts and tabs on points of long external parts.
300mm/minute FR
150mm/minute plunge
15000 rpm
1mm doc
Tabs 2mm height and 1mm width.
Get those super cheap "diamond" files with the red handles to remove the tabs.
You need to cut the interior holes out first, add tabs to hold the material in place and reduce chatter, then cut tabs to remove. You could try adding a protective adhesive plastic sheet to protect the surfaces. That can also mitigate splintering, but may foul the bit.
I use a MDF spoil board and use screws in to it after the drilling profile .. thick sheet of plastic works well for spoil board when using water
It's nice to see something other than reviews and flight videos.
You should set the RPM as high as it will go with such a small router bit. Also, add small tabs to keep the workpiece secured.
one could also make the screwholes first and then screw the whole piece to a sacrificial layer
Hey quick question: I bought the Stepcraft and milling bath - how do you drain and dispose of the carbon fiber? Not all the water gets drained through the pipe of the milling bath just from gravity. Also, where do you dump the waste? Thank you!
You would have much better cut quality if the carbon plate was properly supported during the cut. Those rough edges are caused by vibrations in the material. Unfortunately cutting in water reduce your options regarding spoil boards and holding methods.
Yo that's actually so cool to cut carbon fiber
White stuff is probably from stuff getting underneath. Use double sided tape to fix the whole job down. And leave tabs every couple of 10mm.
Great video, thank you! I ended up buying a Stepcraft CNC because of this video.
Beautiful job, man! Really nice! 😃
It gave me an idea... To make something like the Kabab's Toothpick frame, but based in brushed frames. 😃
You need to make your entry and exit point away from the model and on a side that the end mill can run straight on to.
i think there is a version of fusion360 for small companies, where you have most of the features, but can use it for free and make money with the models you create
generative design is missing, but doesn't hurt much
It’s not a special version, it’s the same Fusion 360, and there’s 3 types of free licences. One for students, one for non commercial use and one for startups that have less than 100k of revenue.
And why not use tabs? is it simply too difficult to chop through carbon fibre? after you did the cut?
Heey Drone Mesh ! They really look awesome ! Great video content! I am very curious what they weigh in 2mm carbon. Cant wait! Super nice !! Thank you again !
Great video! I have a Haas CNC mill in my shop and just looked into cutting my own frames (thingiverse, cncdrones, etc.). I've made my own liquid-cooled heatsinks before so this should be a bit easier
I bought a 30 40 cnc lots of bits 2 controllers about 4 years ago and i never figured out how to use Mach 3 software or the cnc it just a giant paper weight now 😢
What happens to the contaminated water? Do you have a filtration system to recycle it or ?
Just mix it to your boys' smoothies!
I want one of those Stepcraft 600's Someday soon...Awesome vid!
Great frame, do you need too seal the edges of the carbon fibre. and if so what do you use. Cheers David
David, I am curious about this also. My engineers are finding a better solution.
How do the frame stays in place after cutting it? I do not understand. Did you put some sort of adhesive on the CF board first ?
Wish I knew someone like you but local...amoung everything else... That could cut one super clean top place for my fake pelican case that I am going to turn into a charging station..
Send me the designs I'll take a look over it.
Look up local cabinet makers, most have CNCs and some will be willing to do small custom work. I've done it for other projects...
Hi everyone, im setting up a business making carbonfiber parts for motorcycles but was going to do some flat sheets (un-cut) and wounded what thickness and sizes people prefer ?
Woo only 10000 rpm you need to double that and more
Especially with a router bit so small. On a big CNC it would be cranked up to 24k.
@@yannickg6904 yes i use 23500 all day long
I've been thinking about picking up a cnc for some cf stuff, your latest vids are perfect timing. Been a follower and sub for a while, loving all your projects. Any more progress on the Evolution mod, as well?
What is a good North American source for high quality / high strength carbon sheets in thicknesses applicable to X-class drones?
I am thinking of creating a custom frame for my drone , but im worried about the prize. If it's not a problem can i ask a estimate price, like for the size same as in the video. I know it depends on lot of things,but just a range like 50$ or 200$? . Sorry if I'm rude or something, i just didn't find any info so far and thought to ask here.
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Great video! Thank you for sharing!
Awesome man, always wondered about this stuff. Thanks!
Do you have any cool blueprints for a modern day CNC frame for the 03 air unit?
i know you were prolly learning when you made this video. but your tab idea not so efficient, but you will get there if not already.
where did you get the water tub to submerse the carbon fiber ?
What CNC mill are you using? I love the water table... do you have a video of your mill setup?
Where do you source the carbon from?
I've been considering the stepcraft cnc, but want to know what other cnc's did u consider before choosing that one and why.
It's pretty nice
Bro any budget cutter you know?
Where do you buy you CF sheets?
FYI its not always tools or speeds and feeds, sometimes its just crap material. i have 3 vendors. i can use same speeds and feeds on 3 different types of material and 3 different results. its usually the resin issue... find a material u know cuts good stay with it. even if u have to pay a premium, saves you clean up time = money time. ALSO i see a lot of you guys make these videos cutting carbon fiber and wonder why your doing so many passes. your bits are made to cut in 1 pass and a cleanup full depth pass if need be, if your machine or bits have to much deflection your machine is your real problem, usually with machines running belts or vbearings. but one depth in a cut gives u better results because with passes your bits are in contact with previously cut parts. make sense?
I loved my Kingking Q100! is there anychance of getting one or two of these baseplates to the uk? ive still got a couple of the canopys and sets of props =D
very nice... remember to follow the "grain" of the carbon in the design those back arms can bend and maybe you can find some resonance and by consequence jello in certain speeds. put the link of the carbon fiber..
Dude, I'm interested in someone making some RC Chassis for me from an original, will you be interested in doing a little batch of them? I'm working with 1/10th scale
0:01 interesting, so the sheet is hanging between those studs and no sacrifice material underneath...?
Yes its levitated
I would imagine the backing/sacrifice material would participate better finish around the cuts🤔
@@KwongKan Yes it would
Wondering about a TBS source 1 v02 with 5 mil arms
I have tbs Source one with 5mm and it's to heavy :( only for slow flying :)
Cut with tabs bro... :)
Nice cut! Btw, how do you chamfer the edges?
Hey! love your vid! I just have a question, where do you get all the carbon fiber plates? and which types of carbon fiber do you recommend?
Dont buy all at once try out different vendors. For practice by the cheapest and or MDF boards to get the hang of cutting and making the cutting profiles.
@@DroneMesh Thank you! about to get started. Do you have any suggestions on budget spindles for carbon fiber? They are all so expensive online!
Where can I get the files for this frame?
What the file for cnc?
BROTHER DO YOU THINK 3K CARBON FIBER CAN BE USED IN LARGE MULTICOPTER FRAMES?
Yes and some use cheaper version.. However you need tubes or squers for arms for better rigidity.
Can someone CNC cut a guitar shape out of carbon fiber?
You're cutting this in water to... keep the nasty carbon fibre dust down? Keep the bit cool? Keep the carbon fibre cool? Why? And how do you punch holes in a tank of water and not have it leak everywhere? Did.I miss a video talking about this??
especially for dust and also for cooling. So I think
Do u make frame if ordered?
Sehr cool 👍
i have a fusion 360 fine, would you made me a carbon fiber plate?
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Awsome man, i wonder i you would like to cut out a frame I've designed? 😁
Email me love trying out different things to cut
@@DroneMesh damn dude that's amazing dude, ill do:D
you didn't link those cnc you mentioned ;(
Added the Links :)
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