I have both the Genos 1 and the Pa5x; You are very correct on the Korg; it is more contemporary, the styles are more punch and have a better groove than the Genos. The settings and menu's are deeper, the Chord sequencer on the Korg is Much much better with a single button access with a database of chord progressions which can be activated on ANY song. The vocal harmonizer is better with better controls both tactile and menu selected; the organ section on the Korg is MILES better than the Yammy; they use COSM modeling with many more customizable settings; they are much more realistic. I do like the registrations on the Genos better, however the Korg Songbook is much more elaborate and the setlist function is much better as well. You can save a songbook entry with a single button press!!! Some of the sounds on the Genos are better and some of the sounds on the Korg a better including the pianos, strings, and Synth. Genos has better Sax, Brass, and Electronic Keyboards. I do agree having both keyboards is the best of both worlds and they do really complement each other; but if I had to pick one it has to be the Korg; Its built like a tank and its more up to date.
It's disappointing that the Pa5X didn't evolve over the KRONOS after 12 years. The pianos are half the velocities levels and have less use controls. I have to keep the KRONOS because of issues like this.
The UI/Workflow is thousand times more intuitive for me on tyros/genos. I gave up completely on korg after my first tyros. (for me) menu system on korg instruments are a huge p.i.t.a....but I realized that only after trying out the other side :D So I will buy the Genos2. Its new FM(DX7) part is huge addon as well... Sounds: both sounds ridiculously good both have its advantages in some sound categories.... Plastic? Really an issue? Hmm dunno, never had any issues with pastic cases (except the t2 where the silver paint was wear off) but for me metal case is only a 10 kg extra weight. If you want to use it as a weapon (in close comnbat) it surely helps. :D In all other cases it just dead weight.
I stay with my Korg pa5x 76 and Nautilus 88...i am very thankful 🤗....Yamaha sounds great too...BMW or Mercedes, both are amazing , everyone in own ways 🤗
I have both. They are different, that's all. One is not better than the other. But if I can only keep one it would definitely be the Genos. I certainly find the Genos keyboard much more pleasant and easier to play than that of Korg.
You can see and follow the chords progression and length of each long intro, it's like a chords sequence in KORG PA5X, you can play with the intro , awesome isn't it?? Press the 2X each intro or break etc, you play as long as you 👍 👌 💛 like, interested
One others thing, KORG PA4X and PA5X have a different pattern and sound appropriately if you started with minor and major chords on the long intro. I do hope you'll hear the differences on GENOS and PA5X. Cuz PA5X has different pattern for each style . I'm very curious.🎹👍
I have the Korg Pa5X coming from the Yamaha Genos and there is so much more you can do with the Korg. It's a matter of what you want to do. Just play with some basic editing the Yamaha Genos is great. Do you want deep editing and create your own sounds, the Korg Pa5X is the choice for you.
Sorry to each their own, but as much as I like the look of the Genos 2, the Korg Pa5x wins hands down for me. A lot of those sounds are derived from Korg's workstation variants (Kronos/Nautilus) and I'm not sure but I'm going to say M3 too. Plus the fact that Korg has ported over Smooth Sound Transitions into the Pa5x again from the Kronos and Nautilus. I have a Pa3x currently, and I'm seriously considering upgrading to the Pa5x.
Hope compare also with ketron event and Korg Kronos for sounds. I think Yamaha should make a small Genos with 61 keys for carrying and an horizontale pitch band and quarter scale for oriental musicians.
@@synth.s thank you brother but I think as an arranger for oriental musicians must have the scale quarter outside to be practical and an horizontal pitch band
No SSS and a cheap plastic build is why I'm going to try the PA5x. Real studio quality needs to look like the Korg. I've had Yamaha for years and I have the YC73 & M8x so the PA5x seems like a better compliment and the quality of the Korg with double players is a cool feature.
dont worry about the plastic since you dont own it and besides it wont affect the sound didn't you know that, typically korg fanboy statement instead of tell us about how good the korg is they instead attack the other opponent just like us election for president dirt trowing
They would have had to totally reprogram the VLSI's to possible get the SST, which would mean they would have to break with the compatibility and "easy" switch from the smaller SX models or the G1 to the G2. and that is one of Yamaha's key design philosofies, that even you had a Tyros 1 or 2 you won't have big issues with updating as most things is very similar even when switching from an older to a new generation that is over 10 years. Korg is totally software driven so the SST is much easier to implement, where Yamaha have chosen to pre alocate each DSP to each sound channel in the SW70P's, hence you have only SRT between eg Right1, 2 and 3. So you switch from a sound in eg Right 1 to Right 2 and they won't cut off as the sound and effect is already prealocated. So if you are smart and just cycle thru Right 1,2,3 for each sound change and only switch sound on a channel that is not currently enabled it won't be a problem. Only if you constantly use 2 or 3 sounds stacked at once. There is pro and cons on each brand. Even it's nice that the Genos don't weigh a ton, I do wish Yamaha would make their top board more Premium build Quality. As for the keybed Its the exact same FSX bed as featured in Montage and Montage M 6 and 7 models. I still prefere some of Yamahas older keybeds, but I was pleasent surpriced that the aftertouch is much better implemented in the G2 than the G1. The G1 was sluggish and had a big issue with requiring to wait a short time with using aftertouch from the initial hit or it would not trigger the aftertouch. This has been fixed in the G2. IMO the G2 has clearly better instrument sounds than than the Pa5x in most areas but greatly falls behind the Korg in "sound design". It's not a full blown Synth but in the Pa5X you have much better sound edits available. If your not the type that can sit for hours and tailoring each sound tho, the available factory and expansion sounds in the Yamaha is just top notch for the most part while the Korg clearly wins for more "Synth" textures. Yamaha is f***in scared to give their arrangers some better control over the waveforms, just like even most people just use those DX7 factory presets, it's kinda silly they did not add the ability to load DX7 Sysex. a full bank of 32 sounds only uses like max 32k and you have almost 15gb user space for expansions and you mostly just use that for Expansion sounds, Styles and stuff. you can load all your own styles, midifiles, Mp3 and multi pad audio direct from USB. and all the original expansion packs they have released so far only take up like 2gb. But both 2 keyboards is great instruments whatever you like the most .. if you can afford them 😉 The G2 was almost double what I payed for My Kronos 2 🥴 but still worth every penny 😊
The Genos may sound a little better than the factory sounds, but the samples and styles allow you to get some amazing sounds and styles on the Pa5x. Genos 2 no sampler!
imho I think the Genos2 is 'over-hyped'. You wait some 6 years and this is what they come up to? Had expected much more. It is not that material was hard to find or to produce, so what's really the catch? R&D had to deliver on (delayed) time?! Meh.... Same as all electronic devices nowadays.
ANALYSIS: 1 - YAMAHA GENOS 2: Genos wins on Drums, Buttons disability, Cover Songs - all from old to new, Hundreds of New Styles Available for free you can find Genos 2 styles converted for Genos 1 , better acoustic instruments ( strings and guitars) 2 - KORG PA5X - wins in : a few more modern styles, capability to combine 2 styles and fade into another style like a DJ, better keyboard feel, metal case, inclines the screen, a few better sounding instruments for solo, you can pitch the drums up and down, the kick, snare, etc - so you can adapt your drums to different styles, you can just write the chords for a song and they will play for you, while you only play anything else - it already has chord progressions for each style to choose from. Seamless transition from 1 sound to another with no sudden mute. Calculating the total - KORG PA5X BEATS YAMAHA Genos 2
I'f I'd buy the korg, would it be spossible to download and convert somehow some of the styles of the genos for the Pa-5? I love the desert adventure style and of course the articulations ofsome sounds. Thanks for this vid.
You didn’t talk about the SAMPLER of the Korg Pa5x. I don’t know if the Yamaha has a built in sampler ? Also the 6 outputs of the Korg. Also the built in software that converts other styles on Korg.
I need help with this. Our church needs an arranger for some of the songs we sing. Can you please advice which one we should purchase? Genos 2 or pa5x?
Hello, my personal opinion is Pa series have evolved so much it is time to have as part of this expensive and great instrument a dedicated professional 8 - 16 tract audio recorder to which can sync with the accompaniments with editing functions to be able to do good studio grade recording? Is it not time?
Music production is PC based these days, and everybody uses DAW for those sorts of things.
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Les comparaisons ne servent pas,car chaque marque(Yamaha/Korg/Ketron) a son propre univers de sons et grains. Chaque clavier est différent à l'écoute et certains musiciens préférant l'un ou l'autre de ces claviers.
Thanks, Synth S for this informative video. I'm currently thinking of switching to Montage 8 and now checking through Montage features to be sure it matches my style of stage performance. I have some questions about the Yamaha Montage: 1. Is it possible to create custom styles or rhythms that can be used in the accompaniment (Yamaha Montage)? 2. Is it possible to create an acoustic guitar strumming pattern in one of the tracks of a style/rhythm (Yamaha Montage)? 3. Which of those arranger keyboards (Korg Pa5x or Yamaha Genos) would you recommend for a one-man stage performance that the sound could be more realistic (close to live instrument sound)? Thank you once again, looking forward to your answers
You can use the multi layer arpeggios along with motion sequencer and create something similar to style in different scenes in yamaha Montage or even guitar strumming. Also, you can use the Cubase and sequence everything with DAW. As far as arrangers, if the weight isn't a concern, I believe pa5x has a better built quality, more pro features, and is a better value for the money. However, Genos2 is packed with tons of styles for famous songs(if you play cover songs) and has nicely published sounds.
Thank you for your honest review. I think for stage we should have korg pa5x for rhythm and Yamaha montage M for sounds together. Thats best couple of two worlds of arranger and workstation. What is your idea? You play Persian music in your videos. That’s best professional and honest review that I saw in all youtube channel from around world. Even I watched videos from USA 🇺🇸 and England and Germany 🇩🇪 and Spain 🇪🇸. That’s best video.😊
@@synth.sthank you for your deep insight . But some youtubers saud that Roland fantom has drop polyphony problem and drop note when you layers some parts in one performance and their acoustic sound engine is from integra 7 so thats very old engine from around 2000 and AWM 2 engine of yamaha montage M is far a head and newer from roland fantom. I wanted to know your idea about roland fantom drop polyphony and acoustic sound engine vs AWM2 yamaha? Thank you again for your valuable imformation😊
@CyrusAryan Roland fantom has 256 notes of polyphony, same as Yamaha montage (original one). The preset scenes in fantom have some sophisticated layers with tons of filters added on top that eat up lots of polyphony. Those are beautiful scenes . If you are playing along with a band or even backing tracks, you are not supposed to ad layers on top of those. However, if you wanted to compose your own songs, using all the 16 timbrals as different layers, you won't have any polyphony issues, Roland Fantom has too many amazing features, including n/zyme weavetable technology (including in new EX upgrade) tons of amazing pads and synth voices, vary powerful piano designer, amazing keybed, and best built quality in my opinion, it's an amazing piece of equipment, some of the acoustic voices aren't as good as Yamaha though.
@@synth.sthank you so much for your valuable information. Im waiting to see more videos from you about comparing ketron event with korg pa5x and another video comparing Akai Professional MPC with yamha montage and Roland fantom😊
I wish the Korg had the same sound quality of the Yamaha. The button layout is much more intuitive on the pa5x, but the Genos has much better sound. The styles on the pa5x is also much better, but the drums sounds on the Genos is freaking awesome. The two companies should work together and make the ultimate machine, lol.
Is it possible to export track outs from these keyboards? For example i want to buy a oriental middle eastern set usb. Track out a 4-8 bar turkish drum set, use it in my daw on a different project. Korg users have told me its not possible, and that id have to record each sound of the set separately then combine them, or as 1 full mp3 file.
seperately as in, would it still be the same length? for example lets say there is a drum set in the keyboard, does it allow you to mute everything else, record 1 pattern then mute the others and record the second part like a snare etc. Or its all over the play, and you just have to figure out how to put them back together?@@synth.s
Can you design your own new sounds and styles with Korg PA5X? The Genos is a preset box, due its arranger design, and has less sound design capability than say MOntage.
Yes you can create your own style and also the sampler of the Korg can help you use any drum loops as drum or percussion tracks which can allow you to change the speed and tune of the drums loop that you got it from somewhere else and import it into Korg.
I 'm realy interesting about your feelings about this new Genos 2 - As far as i know, this could have been a real beast with some little improvements, such the Seamless transition system (That exists for a long time in the Montage serie, even the MO DX!!), a better arpeggiator, and upgrade the edit FM section. But, i have to admit both keayboards are very impressive - New styles in the Yamaha are realy good.
I would personally choose Yamaha arranger over Korg even though some of the Korg sounds are a bit more realistic. I would at least choose a Yamaha Tyros 5 over a Korg PA-4X. Appearence, the Tyros 5 certainly looks nicer than the PA-4X but I do prefer the look of the PA-5X over the Genos and Genos 2 but at the end of the day if your buying a high end keyboard you are buying it for it's sounds and capibilities over it's looks. One reason I prefer Tyros 5 over Korg PA is because Tyros 5 also has Legacy sounds from all the previous Tyros models, I'm not sure if Genos 2 comes with Legacy sounds out of the box or if they are an expansion pack option but I know from original Genos they disenabled you from being able to play the general midi and XG sounds on the keys but you can only select them in songs or styles.
Does anyone actually ever arrange anything usefull or famous about these types of machines? Or are these just for fun or playing wedding gigs etc minor gigs? I would choose the PA5x, not looking like cheap toy (like my old PSR-8000)
Genos2 and Genos are both home keyboards with high-quality sounds for home players or elderly people who want to play their own favorite songs, that's why it's packed with tons of cover songs styles, however it does have too many features if you really wanted to compose or create your own styles, the sound quality is amazing but, it's plastic body, same as PSR series to make it light weight and easy to carry around, specially for older keyboard players. Pa5x has definitely better built quality and it's more pro oriented.
Wrong，lot of Pa5X user not even reaching professional level in my opinion. If you are a real pro , either one will work perfectly, Both r great keyboards for pro.
You don’t have to be pro for either of these. There is more detailed editing settings on the PA5X series and having the 3 different 61/76 and weighted 88 is excellent. Some pros edit a ton while other pros just want to play😎
That's a first and I'm sure that you know it's the other way round. An instrument for professional use would have to be build much sturdier than the Genos.
Hey my friend, I have Genos one , and just Aquire a Pa5x, which is brilliant, so is the Genos in a different way. But am very dissapointed in the pa5x, you can’t record the arranger section like and arranger keyboard, I change and edit the arranger section to make arrangements of original and cover songs, is There way. .Come visit my channel. Cheers. Lugero.🎹🎶
Just i playing on Genos 2 very rubbish keyboard for the price what they asking! The keys are China rubies not quality 100 times better the korg pa 5x keys, the pads not playng in the acords when you play just in one instrument whiteout accompaniment, and the acords what shows in the screen not changing when transpose just you note te sound change but korg transpose it,s change when you transpose and shows you exacli what acord you took!, a lot of things quite different and i can't compare korg with genos 2 because korg it,s passing away long way then the yamaha i will bay definitely a korg pa 5x 76 chipper and better quality! The right price for the genos 2 should be 2500 max not doing any penny more!
Thats just rubbish. The keybed in both the Genos 1 and 2 is the same FSR keybed as in the Montage 6 and 7. And its their top synth keybed. You dont get a better synth action keybed, and certainly not from Fatar
I have both the Genos 1 and the Pa5x; You are very correct on the Korg; it is more contemporary, the styles are more punch and have a better groove than the Genos. The settings and menu's are deeper, the Chord sequencer on the Korg is Much much better with a single button access with a database of chord progressions which can be activated on ANY song. The vocal harmonizer is better with better controls both tactile and menu selected; the organ section on the Korg is MILES better than the Yammy; they use COSM modeling with many more customizable settings; they are much more realistic. I do like the registrations on the Genos better, however the Korg Songbook is much more elaborate and the setlist function is much better as well. You can save a songbook entry with a single button press!!! Some of the sounds on the Genos are better and some of the sounds on the Korg a better including the pianos, strings, and Synth. Genos has better Sax, Brass, and Electronic Keyboards. I do agree having both keyboards is the best of both worlds and they do really complement each other; but if I had to pick one it has to be the Korg; Its built like a tank and its more up to date.
Can you show us how easy it is to change 10 registrations on the Korg vs 10 registrations on the Yamaha
Really nice breakdown of the similarities, differences, and overall comparisons between these two beasts. Thank you!
You always get the latest synths...wow
I'm looking forward to the MODX7+m
Completely agree and perfect keyboard combination you have - well done!
It's disappointing that the Pa5X didn't evolve over the KRONOS after 12 years. The pianos are half the velocities levels and have less use controls. I have to keep the KRONOS because of issues like this.
The UI/Workflow is thousand times more intuitive for me on tyros/genos. I gave up completely on korg after my first tyros. (for me) menu system on korg instruments are a huge p.i.t.a....but I realized that only after trying out the other side :D So I will buy the Genos2. Its new FM(DX7) part is huge addon as well... Sounds: both sounds ridiculously good both have its advantages in some sound categories.... Plastic? Really an issue? Hmm dunno, never had any issues with pastic cases (except the t2 where the silver paint was wear off) but for me metal case is only a 10 kg extra weight. If you want to use it as a weapon (in close comnbat) it surely helps. :D In all other cases it just dead weight.
I stay with my Korg pa5x 76 and Nautilus 88...i am very thankful 🤗....Yamaha sounds great too...BMW or Mercedes, both are amazing , everyone in own ways 🤗
Completely agree and perfect keyboard combination you have - well done!
The Genos 2 does have digital out only it's now called line out
I have both. They are different, that's all. One is not better than the other.
But if I can only keep one it would definitely be the Genos. I certainly find the Genos keyboard much more pleasant and easier to play than that of Korg.
Some people say that you can find any sound in 3 seconds on Yamaha, unlike the korg PA5x?
Korg Pa5X has a Guitar input with four dedicated effects, besides a vocal input!!
You can see and follow the chords progression and length of each long intro, it's like a chords sequence in KORG PA5X, you can play with the intro , awesome isn't it?? Press the 2X each intro or break etc, you play as long as you 👍 👌 💛 like, interested
Amazing review!
One others thing, KORG PA4X and PA5X have a different pattern and sound appropriately if you started with minor and major chords on the long intro. I do hope you'll hear the differences on GENOS and PA5X. Cuz PA5X has different pattern for each style . I'm very curious.🎹👍
I have the Korg Pa5X coming from the Yamaha Genos and there is so much more you can do with the Korg. It's a matter of what you want to do. Just play with some basic editing the Yamaha Genos is great. Do you want deep editing and create your own sounds, the Korg Pa5X is the choice for you.
Sorry to each their own, but as much as I like the look of the Genos 2, the Korg Pa5x wins hands down for me. A lot of those sounds are derived from Korg's workstation variants (Kronos/Nautilus) and I'm not sure but I'm going to say M3 too. Plus the fact that Korg has ported over Smooth Sound Transitions into the Pa5x again from the Kronos and Nautilus. I have a Pa3x currently, and I'm seriously considering upgrading to the Pa5x.
Imagine if I have the cash to buy both! That would be my best dream ever before waking up for work.
Hope compare also with ketron event and Korg Kronos for sounds. I think Yamaha should make a small Genos with 61 keys for carrying and an horizontale pitch band and quarter scale for oriental musicians.
Genos2 and Genos both have scale tuning.
Scale Tuner allows you to change the tuning of a Yamaha keyboard to Arabic or pure temperament tuning
@@synth.s thank you brother but I think as an arranger for oriental musicians must have the scale quarter outside to be practical and an horizontal pitch band
No SSS and a cheap plastic build is why I'm going to try the PA5x. Real studio quality needs to look like the Korg. I've had Yamaha for years and I have the YC73 & M8x so the PA5x seems like a better compliment and the quality of the Korg with double players is a cool feature.
dont worry about the plastic since you dont own it and besides it wont affect the sound didn't you know that, typically korg fanboy statement instead of tell us about how good the korg is they instead attack the other opponent just like us election for president dirt trowing
@davlippo7 Have you finally got 5x? Your thoughts now?
They would have had to totally reprogram the VLSI's to possible get the SST, which would mean they would have to break with the compatibility and "easy" switch from the smaller SX models or the G1 to the G2. and that is one of Yamaha's key design philosofies, that even you had a Tyros 1 or 2 you won't have big issues with updating as most things is very similar even when switching from an older to a new generation that is over 10 years. Korg is totally software driven so the SST is much easier to implement, where Yamaha have chosen to pre alocate each DSP to each sound channel in the SW70P's, hence you have only SRT between eg Right1, 2 and 3. So you switch from a sound in eg Right 1 to Right 2 and they won't cut off as the sound and effect is already prealocated. So if you are smart and just cycle thru Right 1,2,3 for each sound change and only switch sound on a channel that is not currently enabled it won't be a problem. Only if you constantly use 2 or 3 sounds stacked at once. There is pro and cons on each brand. Even it's nice that the Genos don't weigh a ton, I do wish Yamaha would make their top board more Premium build Quality. As for the keybed Its the exact same FSX bed as featured in Montage and Montage M 6 and 7 models. I still prefere some of Yamahas older keybeds, but I was pleasent surpriced that the aftertouch is much better implemented in the G2 than the G1. The G1 was sluggish and had a big issue with requiring to wait a short time with using aftertouch from the initial hit or it would not trigger the aftertouch. This has been fixed in the G2. IMO the G2 has clearly better instrument sounds than than the Pa5x in most areas but greatly falls behind the Korg in "sound design". It's not a full blown Synth but in the Pa5X you have much better sound edits available. If your not the type that can sit for hours and tailoring each sound tho, the available factory and expansion sounds in the Yamaha is just top notch for the most part while the Korg clearly wins for more "Synth" textures. Yamaha is f***in scared to give their arrangers some better control over the waveforms, just like even most people just use those DX7 factory presets, it's kinda silly they did not add the ability to load DX7 Sysex. a full bank of 32 sounds only uses like max 32k and you have almost 15gb user space for expansions and you mostly just use that for Expansion sounds, Styles and stuff. you can load all your own styles, midifiles, Mp3 and multi pad audio direct from USB. and all the original expansion packs they have released so far only take up like 2gb.
But both 2 keyboards is great instruments whatever you like the most .. if you can afford them 😉 The G2 was almost double what I payed for My Kronos 2 🥴 but still worth every penny 😊
The Genos may sound a little better than the factory sounds, but the samples and styles allow you to get some amazing sounds and styles on the Pa5x. Genos 2 no sampler!
Genos 2 doesn't have Sampler? What a big disadvantage
imho I think the Genos2 is 'over-hyped'. You wait some 6 years and this is what they come up to? Had expected much more. It is not that material was hard to find or to produce, so what's really the catch? R&D had to deliver on (delayed) time?! Meh....
Same as all electronic devices nowadays.
I totally agree ! So disappointed
ANALYSIS: 1 - YAMAHA GENOS 2: Genos wins on Drums, Buttons disability, Cover Songs - all from old to new, Hundreds of New Styles Available for free you can find Genos 2 styles converted for Genos 1 , better acoustic instruments ( strings and guitars) 2 - KORG PA5X - wins in : a few more modern styles, capability to combine 2 styles and fade into another style like a DJ, better keyboard feel, metal case, inclines the screen, a few better sounding instruments for solo, you can pitch the drums up and down, the kick, snare, etc - so you can adapt your drums to different styles, you can just write the chords for a song and they will play for you, while you only play anything else - it already has chord progressions for each style to choose from. Seamless transition from 1 sound to another with no sudden mute. Calculating the total - KORG PA5X BEATS YAMAHA Genos 2
I'f I'd buy the korg, would it be spossible to download and convert somehow some of the styles of the genos for the Pa-5? I love the desert adventure style and of course the articulations ofsome sounds. Thanks for this vid.
Unfortunately they are not compatible
You didn’t talk about the SAMPLER of the Korg Pa5x.
I don’t know if the Yamaha has a built in sampler ?
Also the 6 outputs of the Korg.
Also the built in software that converts other styles on Korg.
Yamaha have built-in sampler
I need help with this.
Our church needs an arranger for some of the songs we sing. Can you please advice which one we should purchase? Genos 2 or pa5x?
If the weight doesn't matter, pa5x is a better choice, and more value for the money.
Hello, my personal opinion is Pa series have evolved so much it is time to have as part of this expensive and great instrument a dedicated professional 8 - 16 tract audio recorder to which can sync with the accompaniments with editing functions to be able to do good studio grade recording? Is it not time?
Music production is PC based these days, and everybody uses DAW for those sorts of things.
Les comparaisons ne servent pas,car chaque marque(Yamaha/Korg/Ketron) a son propre univers de sons et grains. Chaque clavier est différent à l'écoute et certains musiciens préférant l'un ou l'autre de ces claviers.
Thanks, Synth S for this informative video.
I'm currently thinking of switching to Montage 8 and now checking through Montage features to be sure it matches my style of stage performance. I have some questions about the Yamaha Montage:
1. Is it possible to create custom styles or rhythms that can be used in the accompaniment (Yamaha Montage)?
2. Is it possible to create an acoustic guitar strumming pattern in one of the tracks of a style/rhythm (Yamaha Montage)?
3. Which of those arranger keyboards (Korg Pa5x or Yamaha Genos) would you recommend for a one-man stage performance that the sound could be more realistic (close to live instrument sound)?
Thank you once again, looking forward to your answers
You can use the multi layer arpeggios along with motion sequencer and create something similar to style in different scenes in yamaha Montage or even guitar strumming. Also, you can use the Cubase and sequence everything with DAW.
As far as arrangers, if the weight isn't a concern, I believe pa5x has a better built quality, more pro features, and is a better value for the money. However, Genos2 is packed with tons of styles for famous songs(if you play cover songs) and has nicely published sounds.
@@synth.s Thank you so much. Your advice and suggestions help a lot in this decision process.
Thank you for your honest review. I think for stage we should have korg pa5x for rhythm and Yamaha montage M for sounds together. Thats best couple of two worlds of arranger and workstation. What is your idea? You play Persian music in your videos. That’s best professional and honest review that I saw in all youtube channel from around world. Even I watched videos from USA 🇺🇸 and England and Germany 🇩🇪 and Spain 🇪🇸. That’s best video.😊
Combination of pa5x and m8x are the best, or even fantom8 and pa5x, both going to be the best Combination.
@@synth.sthank you for your deep insight . But some youtubers saud that Roland fantom has drop polyphony problem and drop note when you layers some parts in one performance and their acoustic sound engine is from integra 7 so thats very old engine from around 2000 and AWM 2 engine of yamaha montage M is far a head and newer from roland fantom. I wanted to know your idea about roland fantom drop polyphony and acoustic sound engine vs AWM2 yamaha? Thank you again for your valuable imformation😊
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What is your idea about Roland fantom analysis in this video?
@CyrusAryan Roland fantom has 256 notes of polyphony, same as Yamaha montage (original one). The preset scenes in fantom have some sophisticated layers with tons of filters added on top that eat up lots of polyphony. Those are beautiful scenes . If you are playing along with a band or even backing tracks, you are not supposed to ad layers on top of those. However, if you wanted to compose your own songs, using all the 16 timbrals as different layers, you won't have any polyphony issues, Roland Fantom has too many amazing features, including n/zyme weavetable technology (including in new EX upgrade) tons of amazing pads and synth voices, vary powerful piano designer, amazing keybed, and best built quality in my opinion, it's an amazing piece of equipment, some of the acoustic voices aren't as good as Yamaha though.
@@synth.sthank you so much for your valuable information. Im waiting to see more videos from you about comparing ketron event with korg pa5x and another video comparing Akai Professional MPC with yamha montage and Roland fantom😊
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Bro waiting for sounds and styles comparison video.
Still no one uploaded.
Will do soon
I wish the Korg had the same sound quality of the Yamaha. The button layout is much more intuitive on the pa5x, but the Genos has much better sound. The styles on the pa5x is also much better, but the drums sounds on the Genos is freaking awesome. The two companies should work together and make the ultimate machine, lol.
Or they can keep competing and Korg can do a sound quality upgrade in 2024.
True. I gotta say though, Korg had some nice piano and organ sounds.
Is it possible to export track outs from these keyboards? For example i want to buy a oriental middle eastern set usb.
Track out a 4-8 bar turkish drum set, use it in my daw on a different project. Korg users have told me its not possible, and that id have to record each sound of the set separately then combine them, or as 1 full mp3 file.
It's not possible, you need to do each track separately in DAW
seperately as in, would it still be the same length? for example lets say there is a drum set in the keyboard, does it allow you to mute everything else, record 1 pattern then mute the others and record the second part like a snare etc. Or its all over the play, and you just have to figure out how to put them back together?@@synth.s
Can genos 2 and pa5x operated with buttons ( without touch screen)?
Thank you
No, they can't
Hi,
How does the keybed of the P5x feel compare to the RH3 found on the Nautilus (also on Kronos, SV2 and D1)?
Thx.
Pretty identical keybed in comparison with nautilus.
Waiting for sounds and styles comparison
Can you design your own new sounds and styles with Korg PA5X? The Genos is a preset box, due its arranger design, and has less sound design capability than say MOntage.
Yes you can create your own style and also the sampler of the Korg can help you use any drum loops as drum or percussion tracks which can allow you to change the speed and tune of the drums loop that you got it from somewhere else and import it into Korg.
Yes Korg have deep Editor but Genos 2 sound very very much better👍👍👍
thank you.
The G-2 is the king. Case is closed.
So only YOUR opinion counts, right? Why bother to watch the video?
Thanks.
Great one..
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Do the pa5x has any problems?
Not really
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I 'm realy interesting about your feelings about this new Genos 2 - As far as i know, this could have been a real beast with some little improvements, such the Seamless transition system (That exists for a long time in the Montage serie, even the MO DX!!), a better arpeggiator, and upgrade the edit FM section. But, i have to admit both keayboards are very impressive - New styles in the Yamaha are realy good.
I would personally choose Yamaha arranger over Korg even though some of the Korg sounds are a bit more realistic. I would at least choose a
Yamaha Tyros 5 over a Korg PA-4X. Appearence, the Tyros 5 certainly looks nicer than the PA-4X but I do prefer the look of the PA-5X over the
Genos and Genos 2 but at the end of the day if your buying a high end keyboard you are buying it for it's sounds and capibilities over it's looks.
One reason I prefer Tyros 5 over Korg PA is because Tyros 5 also has Legacy sounds from all the previous Tyros models, I'm not sure if Genos 2
comes with Legacy sounds out of the box or if they are an expansion pack option but I know from original Genos they disenabled you from being
able to play the general midi and XG sounds on the keys but you can only select them in songs or styles.
Does anyone actually ever arrange anything usefull or famous about these types of machines? Or are these just for fun or playing wedding gigs etc minor gigs? I would choose the PA5x, not looking like cheap toy (like my old PSR-8000)
Genos2 and Genos are both home keyboards with high-quality sounds for home players or elderly people who want to play their own favorite songs, that's why it's packed with tons of cover songs styles, however it does have too many features if you really wanted to compose or create your own styles, the sound quality is amazing but, it's plastic body, same as PSR series to make it light weight and easy to carry around, specially for older keyboard players.
Pa5x has definitely better built quality and it's more pro oriented.
Genos is for hobbyists, Pa5X is for professionals
Wrong，lot of Pa5X user not even reaching professional level in my opinion.
If you are a real pro , either one will work perfectly, Both r great keyboards for pro.
@@beloncfy Genos is easiest and mainstream, Pa5X is sharp and more versatile
You don’t have to be pro for either of these. There is more detailed editing settings on the PA5X series and having the 3 different 61/76 and weighted 88 is excellent. Some pros edit a ton while other pros just want to play😎
@@MrFn65 "more detailed editing settings on the PA5X" exactly
Professionals? If you are a professional you dont use styles, you can play properly.
Yamaha genos 2
Are you a millionaire, cause those keyboards in total costs something like 30000€ or even more?
Yamaha for Kids Korg for Kings 🤴
If you are a lazy musician, use Korg. If you are a professional, use Yamaha...
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That's a first and I'm sure that you know it's the other way round. An instrument for professional use would have to be build much sturdier than the Genos.
Hey my friend, I have Genos one , and just Aquire a Pa5x, which is brilliant, so is the Genos in a different way. But am very dissapointed in the pa5x, you can’t record the arranger section like and arranger keyboard, I change and edit the arranger section to make arrangements of original and cover songs, is There way. .Come visit my channel. Cheers. Lugero.🎹🎶
Thanks for sharing!
88 key version 🤢 🤢
Just i playing on Genos 2 very rubbish keyboard for the price what they asking! The keys are China rubies not quality 100 times better the korg pa 5x keys, the pads not playng in the acords when you play just in one instrument whiteout accompaniment, and the acords what shows in the screen not changing when transpose just you note te sound change but korg transpose it,s change when you transpose and shows you exacli what acord you took!, a lot of things quite different and i can't compare korg with genos 2 because korg it,s passing away long way then the yamaha i will bay definitely a korg pa 5x 76 chipper and better quality! The right price for the genos 2 should be 2500 max not doing any penny more!
Quality has nothing to do with China but Yamaha. You'd be surprised at how many excellent quality Chinese products there are out there.
Thats just rubbish. The keybed in both the Genos 1 and 2 is the same FSR keybed as in the Montage 6 and 7. And its their top synth keybed. You dont get a better synth action keybed, and certainly not from Fatar
Yamaha is children's toy.
Hello Sir, thank you so much for sharing your amazing insights and studio ! can you pls share on which keyboard stand type you have?
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thank you @@synth.s 🎹
@@synth.s Thank you ! just got them from sweetwater - they are amazing ! holding all my 3 88 headyduty keys.
Yeh they should added stuff like the new montage then the keyboard would have been better
Genos 2 is 💩🥔