Fact not 🚫 fiction it's the will of God for all the Jews to be gathered in the state of PALESTINE 🇵🇸 By all means , sooner rather later And The whole world 🌍 should understand and accept that the 🕎 Jews ✡️ have the full right to be and have the so called the Promised land 🇵🇸 The so called the holy land 🇵🇸 The Heart of the Arab nation 🇵🇸 The state of PALESTINE 🇵🇸 Nothing on earth 🌎 could change that I believe it's clear cut That's it
What’s becoming so obvious to people now is that colonialism has never ended just rebranded with different terms. From Natives indigenous people being called “savages” in the old days to now being called “terrorist” by neocolonialists who are neoliberals, neoconservatives, and zionist. 1) Savages is now “terrorist” 2) Civilizing them is now “bringing them democracy” We can all see Israel is a colonial project being supported by former and current colonials such as U.S, UK, and others who also control territories of indigenous natives in Caribbean Islands, Pacific Islands, Hawaii, and many more. The liberation of Palestine will definitely give RISE to many indigenous natives around the world to free themselves from western domination. This is the underlying ripple effect that the U.S government and its puppet allies don’t want to happen.
@@jimseltzer2002unless you agree with rascism and ethnic cleansing and antisemite if you are against arab jews that are not for European zionist colonialism.
I have heard Tarik Ali condemning the Americans’s war in Vietnam, in 1960s . He was a student at Oxford ,and a popular speaker at Speakers ‘s Corner in London.
I was drafted for Vietnam but I tricked the draft board into rejecting me. Plan B was to drive north to Canada 🇨🇦. My car was packed and fueled and ready to go. My trick was 3-fold, but I loved faking the hearing test because I am a consummate musician! They advised me to seek medical help. My reply: "What did you say?"😅😅😅😅😅
I was a fan of Tariq in 1968 and was in a bookstore in London where he launched one of his books, though I never got to speak with him. Good to see he is still as cogent as he was then.
You work for Al Jazzier . Tells me everything. You said “ Israel attack on Gaza. You should have said Hamas’s attack on Israel. You are bias and therefore not worth listening to.
75-100 years of genocide and apartheid. There is no democracy or freedom unless people of all religions and nationalities are treated equally. Those preventing such are tyrants and clearly the "bad guys".
That's what I've been saying all along. Revoke Israel's statehood and welcome an international peacekeeping force to Israel and the region. The original so-called “recognition” should be thoroughly reviewed just to find out how this monstrosity was created in the first place. It would appear that Israel was recognized as an exception to international law. The “reasons” should be examined and the recognition revoked, pronto. At the same time, the State of Palestine, from the river to the sea, must be recognized as the only legitimate state on Palestinian soil. I think the U.N. used the Bible to recognize Israel. The Bible is not law. It's a farce, and it has to stop.
Technically, since they never met the obligations the UN ordered in its creation, it has always been an illegitimate state. Unfortunately, western states prevented UN from revoking IS statehood, as it should have within a year of its recognition.
@crazyforcanada - Check out Prof Ralph Wilde’s 26-minute speech to the ICJ at The Hague in February 2024. He did exactly what you described and concluded that the creation of Israel was illegal.
That is quite an impressive amount of nonsense you have spouted. There has never been a state of palestine. The Palestine you are thinking of is the British Mandate of Palestine, a political entity established, owned, ruled and named by the British, once they conquered the land from the Ottomans. The group of Arabs now know as "palestinians" started identifying as "palestinians" only in 1964. The have never ever owned or ruled this land, not even for a day ,Moreoever, if you check population data from the Ottoman era and the British Mandate era, you will see that the vast majority of these Arabs moved to the land after 1850 - hardly indigenous. The UN did not grant the Jews a right to their homeland based on the bible, It was based on the thousands of historic sources which clearly shows the extremely long history of the Jews with the land of Israel. If the arabs were willing to share, there would have been peace decades ago. As early as 1936 and 1947, they were offered a two state solution, and as recently as 2000 and 2008. Each time the Arabs have refused and chosen war and terrorism because they insist on believing their made up history that the land somehow became their just because the British conquered it from the Ottomans. You should open an actual history book rather than pretending to learn "history" from RUclips videos.
Because of October 7th and the Palestinians refusal to rid themselves of Hamas the Palestinians forfeit their rights to a two state solution. Abbas et al are constant reminder of their bankrupt policies in which they squandered time and money for power and control. How ironic the longer they remained in office the more power and control they have lost now they are in control of rubble and dust well done. Hamas listens to their Iranian shia zealots paymasters and will gladly sacrifice innocent sunni children for the shia mullah's in Iran that's what being a proxy means you are slaves to your master not god or your people but a gang of diabolical zealots in Iran. Hamas, Hizbollah, Hoooties are Iranian sectarian regime proxies and Iran itself has meddled in the affairs of Palestinians to spite and scupper regional peace efforts because thats the last thing it wants to see is the sunni world united and at peace with Israel. Time for Qatar and Iran to be held accountable for prolonging the conflict and keeping Hamas in power. Qatar is habouring Hamas leaders and must expel them immediately to Israel for the atrocities of October 7th, misue of UNRWA using Palestinians and hostages as human shields. Biden administration policy of appeasement has emboldened the Iranian regime proxies and prolonged the conflict. No more appeasement.Furthermore Israel must bring those to justice for the October 7th atrocities and especially states such as Qatar, Turkey and Iran that continue to harbour, facilitate and indulged these terrorist organisations. Israel must do whatever it takes to obliterate these terrorist groups, affiliates and Iranian regime proxies because these are obstacles to peace in the region and preventing Israel's regional partners from signing the Abraham Accords.
You don't have to be a Muslim to support humanity of all shades. Good that you are one of the sane and tolerant people who don't subscribe to extremist Zionist idealogy on both sides of the spectrum whether Jew or Muslim or atheist. Zionism is the new definition for Apartheid.
@@naymatunc-rc6vs I am 70 years old and do not support them. why? here we go... Here is A crash course on history of the so called "PALESTINIAN STATE": 1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE. A little more history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'. In 132 AD the Emperor Hadrian resolved to stamp the Jews and their religion out of existence. He sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery after the revolt of Bar Kikhba, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem’s name to Aelia Capitolina. He renamed Israel to wipe out the national identity of Israel and the Jews.
Tarik Ali is so well spoken and so knowledgeable. It is always inspiring and such a treat to hear what M. Ali has to say. Thank you for this interview 🙏
I would have thought of all the countries in the world, Germany should be the first to stand against the genocide of the Palestinians. However, the guilt over the holocaust is the excuse for the support of the Zios.
Lobby? do you support burning people while alive in their beds at 6 in the morning before coffee, just because they where born Jewish? the palishitians had a state in gaza 2006 to 2023, there will not be a palishitian state ever again
Anyone knowing an ounce of background knew that oct 7th was a desperate call for help. And oh boy the world has answered the call. May Palestine finally be free!
@@Fugazinome Assistance to make trye the zionist claim that "a land without a people for a people without a land": clean space for Israel to expand its borders.
@@daviddavidjr.1144 what you saying is nonsense if the Jewish people can take so called their land back the red indians and the Aboriginals has the same rights to take their land back after so many centuries the kurds have the right to take turkiya back because its actually their land before it was turkiya
Tariq’s history admirable in his warnings - asked 4 his advise: Tariq says: Don’t Give Up! You are the opposition! This presence is owed at least! In US and Britain. With pens - making documentaries. Podcasts like this! ( Connie Nash)
The Israelis have where to go actually most of them they have dual nationality why they occupied Palestinian’s land who were to live in peace before 1948 . Real Jews ,Christian and Muslim were living in peace . Occupation and apartheid have to end . Thanks of the most world who woke up finally.
@@1021Adam if world is awakened finally to palestinians rights, and America remain as the world power complicit in deaths as acts of terror by israel, the world might be able to awaken them to change course to press israel for peace
@@Addis0749you are really out of your mind mate.... that is their land there is no such palestine....... gazans are just nomads in this land ...... no arabs countries want to support them since they always create troubles everywhere...... history shows how much troubles gazans have caused in the arabs world....😂
True! The Blind Lead the Blind. "NO ONE IS AS DEAF AS THOSE WHO SIT OR STAND IN THE PRESENCE OF WISDOM AND REFUSE TO LISTEN!!! ALL WHO DON'T BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST IS THE LORD ARE BLIND. THEY NEED TO PULL THEIR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND SO THEY CAN SEE PAST THEIR NOSE AND OVER THEIR SHOULDERS. ISLAMISTS WILL BOW DOWN TO JESUS CHRIST SOON!
Thank you, Mark Seddon, for having Tarik Ali on your podcast for this discussion. Another great writer and truth teller of what is happening in Palestine and our world political leaders of who are destroying our world. 🙏❤️🌎🌏🌏🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵🎶💫✨️💫✨️
This kind of a one-state solutions seems to be getting more and more traction. BTW I personally first heard about it from the renown Israeli journalist Gideon Levy, who said he supported the two-state solution for many years but now deems it no longer possible. I believe he said it about 4 years ago.
and why would they and why should they accept being squeezed into a tiny box of space when they once roamed free from the river to the sea?? Pple say they cannot live in peace together. Well, you gotta have a strong civil system of law and order, where if blood is shed, then they go to court like in any healthy civil society. It may take a generation, and a lot of death, but pple do change and adjust. the problem is tho is religion. the extremist traditional jews and rabid islamic ideology, they are mental health conditions and need to be de-radicalised so they can live in a society and respect everyone. And I do not think this will happen. Unless radicalism is banned and made a crime. Most Muslims around the world do not cause problems or want to takeover the world. And not all Jews around the world want to have special treatment. The Israeli govt is stacked full of right wing haters, but not all. Remember a man who was thrown out of the Knesset for speaking common sense and for peace.
Disrahel is too irrational and greedy for that to ever work. There should be a total "right of return" for ALL of Palestine. The settlers have occupied land grabbed illegally and should be forced off. For those who "bought" from crooked realtors in Jewish-only land sales in the US (like the one in L.A. that was protested but defended by shill Mayor Bass), too bad. File legal claims against those who took your money but you forfeit every square inch! Incovenient? So what? The Palestinians have been far more incovenienced over the past 76 years than you'll ever be!
What’s becoming so obvious to people now is that colonialism has never ended just rebranded with different terms. From Natives indigenous people being called “savages” in the old days to now being called “terrorist” by neocolonialists who are neoliberals, neoconservatives, and zionist. 1) Savages is now “terrorist” 2) Civilizing them is now “bringing them democracy” We can all see Israel is a colonial project being supported by former and current colonials such as U.S, UK, and others who also control territories of indigenous natives in Caribbean Islands, Pacific Islands, Hawaii, and many more. The liberation of Palestine will definitely give RISE to many indigenous natives around the world to free themselves from western domination. This is the underlying ripple effect that the U.S government and its puppet allies don’t want to happen.
If they can't and realize their wrong at least they're human enough to admit in words and act in words to stand for today's palestinian sufferings are rooted from the past.
Britain didn’t have the legal right to give that land, as they were occupying it, not legally allowed to give away. The only land any state can give away legally is its own contiguous land.
If you didn't notice. The British Mandate also included today's Jordan. 70% of the Mandate territory was given to the Arabs aka Jordan today. Jordanians= Palestinians = Arabs. All the same people.
@@Sp3ll633 incorrect. All Arabs are not the same. They aren’t a monolith. Palestinians are in a small part of the territory they are indigenous to. Jordanians are in their indigenous territory. And, Israelis are in a territory many have no genetic ties to. Besides, it was not legal for British to sell land they were illegally occupying. That violates the UN charter. An occupying force has no rights to the land they are occupying. They only have obligations to the people indigenous to the land. Technically, Israel and the UK both owe Palestinians reparations, and are obligated to end their occupation.
Firstly, the land did not belong to the Arabs who started calling themselves "palestinians" in 1964. It is a land which has been conquered numerous times over the centuries. It was held by the Ottomans for 400 years, and then conquered by the British. At no point in history did it ever belong to the Arabs now known as "palestinians". They are not even indigenous as they claim, and if you check the population data of the Ottoman era and of the British mandate era, you will see that the vast majority of them only moved to the land after 1850. Additionally, it was not the British which gave the Jews a homeland, but the UN who ratified the Jewish state. Thirdly, it was not given exclusively to the Jews. After Jordan, 4 times the size of Israel was already given to the Arabs, the UN suggested the 1947 partition plan which divided the country 55% Jews 45% Arabs, although the Jews' 55% included the Negev desert so it was not as good as the Arab's land. The Jews agreed, the Arabs refused and started a war, which included the armies of all surrounding arab countries, and the openly stated aim of "exterminating" the Jews and taking their land. The Jews fought back and won, and in the process, 700 arabs left/were expelled from their villages during the war. This is what they call their "Nakba"
Its not news to me that Hamas represent the so called "Palestinian" people, if there is such a people. Hamas are the legal representatives of the people who appointed them into government, who voted them into power, guess who that was? Hmm let me think now? that would be the Palestinian people, would it not? Hamas were voted into power, corruptly voted into power by fixing the vote by threats and intimidation of their people. This fact is shown by the actions taken by Hamas as soon as they got into power, they went about rounding up their Muslim political opposition, they chased them down in their thousands, shot them in the backs, strung them up by their necks in the most cruel manner and hanged them all, including torture to extract information from them as to where their cash was and their valuables were kept. Many PA members were murdered by Hamas, who were supposed to be the friends of Hamas, Since Hamas had forcibly removed their political opposition they obviously were able to keep a firm hold on power, as now their was no need for elections, and any that did take place the people were threatened to vote for the only gang in town, that being the Hamas Mafia. There can be no doubt that the Biblical saying bares true here: "You reap what you sow" yes the folly and the stupidity of the people who live in Gaza have now reaped what they have sown by voting in their worst nightmare and the Hamas vampire has come to bite them all in their necks! Their blood spilling aplenty as they now regret their actions and are bombed to death as Hamas use them as shields of death to proclaim huge numbers in accusation against Israel, but this is a lie! The death of these so called Arab innocents lay at the hands of Hamas, whose cruelty knows no bounds! You have now wrought the whirlwind, now you Arab people experience the hurricane in full force and realise that your folly is your own!
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 Now the US can stop saying they believe the settlements in Palestine are inconsistent with International law, and start saying that the settlements ARE illegal under International law 🙄 ... 🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉
@yyy-875 I got a strange feeling that you honestly think the Europeans who call themselves Je wish are actually the same Israelites in the Bi-Bull 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You do know that the Europeans in Izreal converted to Judaism and don't share the blood of the original Izraelites? The arabs we call Palestinians have been living on that land for over 3000 years and are actually the semites known as Israelites. But they changed their religion because of invaders
It is a loose loose state of affairs for Israel either a true democratic state which will give Palestinians the right to return and the state of Israel will have to compensate for its illegal practices. Or a two state solution either way Palestine wins.
Need to add a correction there's at least *TEN* EU countries recognizing Palesting by now, not just Ireland and spain. There's only 3 or 4 that still send weapons and parts at this point.
"There should be a one-state solution - a secular, democratic one." Well, we are firmly in the realms of fantasy solutions here. It's one thing to posit this as an ideal, but the simple reality is there is next to no constituency for it, neither among Israelis nor Palestinians. Pretending you can just wave your magic wand and impose your ideal isn't going to help anybody.
Many Palestinians now argue for a one state solution. Analysts who previously argued for a two state solution now argue for a one state solution. The settlements have made a two state solution impossible. It is the two state solution that is now a fantasy. The only solution is a one state solution, shared by Palestinians and the Jews who chose to remain. But it will be a long and bloody road.
@@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 Except in reality the US state is run by way too many Christian Zionists with an overzealous desire to bring about Armageddon. So much for that idea.
Land belongs to man not a so called god - the land has been fed by the flesh and blood of those who lived and worked on it since the beginning of time.. Believe what you want but do not steal other peoples land just because you have created a religion.
My dear Sirs, thank you for all the work you do. Mr Ali, your book Winston Churchill His Times His Crimes, a complete masterpiece. The man was a monster, and people still held him up on a pedestal, sick, isn't it?
Good interview, but it has to be said that citizen intervention DOES work, BDS is crippling Israel....Intel pulled back from a 25bn $ deal, the port blokkade is working thanks to the yemeni, so the encampments and BDS campaigns do make a big difference
I am German. I follow the discussion aubout AFD. Mister Ali: you got something wrong. Maximilian Krah did not say, that the SS did good things. He said that not ervery SS-member automatically was a criminal. That is a difference. And by the way. The ruling partys support fascist Ukrainians and say "SLAVA UKRAINI" and promote racist resentiments against Russians. And it was the AFD that opposed the Corona-Fascism!
The interviewer speaks more than the interviewee. Surely, he can pose his questions in a mote succient way so we can actually hear Mr Ali speak for longer.
It would be more just for Germany to give up land to create the Jewish state. It was the crimes committed by Europe, and atrocities committed by Germany, that are the reason there was a need for a Jewish state to begin with.
The PEOPLE of palestine have no NEED of "memorable" speeches. The PEOPLE of PALESTINE "need" water!!! food!!! medical aid!!! homes!!! 🤨 FREE PALESTINE!!
On Germany: After hearing Gabor Mate talking about the trauma aspect of it, I came up with this: a family two parents, two kids. Abusive parent (NAZIS) abuses the kids (Jews) and the other parent (non nazi Germans) knows (partakes) but doesn’t help the kids. One kid deals with the trauma and seeks justice and to help that stuff like that doesn’t happen to others. The other kid says: “I’m never again the weak one.” and starts abusing others. The second parent knowing what happened and feeling guilty lets the violent kid do what he wants and defends it even against the sibling. (If you wanna go on: the role of all other parties UK, US, … can fit in too) In the end we have Jews like Gabor Mate, Norman Finkelstein, Marek Edelmann, Ilan Pappe and on the other side Bibi Netanjahu and Co. And the Germans that can’t deal with stuff. All trauma.
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two very good men
Fact not 🚫 fiction
it's the will of God for all the Jews to be gathered in the state of PALESTINE 🇵🇸
By all means , sooner rather later
And
The whole world 🌍 should understand and accept that the 🕎 Jews ✡️ have the full right to be and have the so called the Promised land 🇵🇸
The so called the holy land 🇵🇸
The Heart of the Arab nation 🇵🇸
The state of PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Nothing on earth 🌎 could change that
I believe it's clear cut
That's it
What’s becoming so obvious to people now is that colonialism has never ended just rebranded with different terms. From Natives indigenous people being called “savages” in the old days to now being called “terrorist” by neocolonialists who are neoliberals, neoconservatives, and zionist.
1) Savages is now “terrorist”
2) Civilizing them is now “bringing them democracy”
We can all see Israel is a colonial project being supported by former and current colonials such as U.S, UK, and others who also control territories of indigenous natives in Caribbean Islands, Pacific Islands, Hawaii, and many more.
The liberation of Palestine will definitely give RISE to many indigenous natives around the world to free themselves from western domination. This is the underlying ripple effect that the U.S government and its puppet allies don’t want to happen.
@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106w
Palestine deep dive channel is Adolf Hitler style Nazi propaganda machine!
Absolutely protests must not stop. Thank you for inviting Tariq Ali.
@margaret yes it must carry on same as IDF must not agree to ceasefire .
Mr. Tariq Ali is a highly admired and respected historian and scholar who has always been on the right side of history and social movements.
In your opinion. No one else.
@@jimseltzer2002 Mine too. And many others.
@@jimseltzer2002Who else’s opinion are they going to give? What a vacuous comment!
@@jimseltzer2002unless you agree with rascism and ethnic cleansing and antisemite if you are against arab jews that are not for European zionist colonialism.
@@lordcharfieldagree
Thanks for your support Tariq ALi.strugle must go on.
Thank you for speaking out against the tyrants of the world.
Yes palestinian backed hamas must stop.
Yes Just Google jihad-watch
for USA - Any Leader that changes his Principals depending on whom his dealing with CANNOT be a Leader - NELSON MANDELA. Proudly 🇿🇦
Those words will echo in eternity how true
ALL politicians change their position. It goes with the territory
@@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 Thats why they not Leaders just lowly politicians.
@@kesivansadly, politicians acquire the title "leader".
I have heard Tarik Ali condemning the Americans’s war in Vietnam, in 1960s . He was a student at Oxford ,and a popular speaker at Speakers ‘s Corner in London.
I was drafted for Vietnam but I tricked the draft board into rejecting me. Plan B was to drive north to Canada 🇨🇦. My car was packed and fueled and ready to go. My trick was 3-fold, but I loved faking the hearing test because I am a consummate musician! They advised me to seek medical help. My reply: "What did you say?"😅😅😅😅😅
@@mozartsbumbumsrus7750good for you. 😊
The isreali theifs of Palestine never will be the owner of the land
@@mozartsbumbumsrus7750😅😅😅
I was a fan of Tariq in 1968 and was in a bookstore in London where he launched one of his books, though I never got to speak with him. Good to see he is still as cogent as he was then.
You work for Al Jazzier . Tells me everything. You said “ Israel attack on Gaza. You should have said Hamas’s attack on Israel. You are bias and therefore not worth listening to.
75-100 years of genocide and apartheid.
There is no democracy or freedom unless people of all religions and nationalities are treated equally. Those preventing such are tyrants and clearly the "bad guys".
That's what I've been saying all along. Revoke Israel's statehood and welcome an international peacekeeping force to Israel and the region. The original so-called “recognition” should be thoroughly reviewed just to find out how this monstrosity was created in the first place. It would appear that Israel was recognized as an exception to international law. The “reasons” should be examined and the recognition revoked, pronto. At the same time, the State of Palestine, from the river to the sea, must be recognized as the only legitimate state on Palestinian soil. I think the U.N. used the Bible to recognize Israel. The Bible is not law. It's a farce, and it has to stop.
Definitely the situation has to change but worries me that these atrocities are still going on
Technically, since they never met the obligations the UN ordered in its creation, it has always been an illegitimate state. Unfortunately, western states prevented UN from revoking IS statehood, as it should have within a year of its recognition.
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@crazyforcanada - Check out Prof Ralph Wilde’s 26-minute speech to the ICJ at The Hague in February 2024. He did exactly what you described and concluded that the creation of Israel was illegal.
That is quite an impressive amount of nonsense you have spouted. There has never been a state of palestine. The Palestine you are thinking of is the British Mandate of Palestine, a political entity established, owned, ruled and named by the British, once they conquered the land from the Ottomans. The group of Arabs now know as "palestinians" started identifying as "palestinians" only in 1964. The have never ever owned or ruled this land, not even for a day ,Moreoever, if you check population data from the Ottoman era and the British Mandate era, you will see that the vast majority of these Arabs moved to the land after 1850 - hardly indigenous. The UN did not grant the Jews a right to their homeland based on the bible, It was based on the thousands of historic sources which clearly shows the extremely long history of the Jews with the land of Israel. If the arabs were willing to share, there would have been peace decades ago. As early as 1936 and 1947, they were offered a two state solution, and as recently as 2000 and 2008. Each time the Arabs have refused and chosen war and terrorism because they insist on believing their made up history that the land somehow became their just because the British conquered it from the Ottomans. You should open an actual history book rather than pretending to learn "history" from RUclips videos.
We support Mr. Ali's demand to de-recognise Israel!
Because of October 7th and the Palestinians refusal to rid themselves of Hamas the Palestinians forfeit their rights to a two state solution.
Abbas et al are constant reminder of their bankrupt policies in which they squandered time and money for power and control. How ironic the longer they remained in office the more power and control they have lost now they are in control of rubble and dust well done.
Hamas listens to their Iranian shia zealots paymasters and will gladly sacrifice innocent sunni children for the shia mullah's in Iran that's what being a proxy means you are slaves to your master not god or your people but a gang of diabolical zealots in Iran.
Hamas, Hizbollah, Hoooties are Iranian sectarian regime proxies and Iran itself has meddled in the affairs of Palestinians to spite and scupper regional peace efforts because thats the last thing it wants to see is the sunni world united and at peace with Israel.
Time for Qatar and Iran to be held accountable for prolonging the conflict and keeping Hamas in power. Qatar is habouring Hamas leaders and must expel them immediately to Israel for the atrocities of October 7th, misue of UNRWA using Palestinians and hostages as human shields.
Biden administration policy of appeasement has emboldened the Iranian regime proxies and prolonged the conflict. No more appeasement.Furthermore Israel must bring those to justice for the October 7th atrocities and especially states such as Qatar, Turkey and Iran that continue to harbour, facilitate and indulged these terrorist organisations.
Israel must do whatever it takes to obliterate these terrorist groups, affiliates and Iranian regime proxies because these are obstacles to peace in the region and preventing Israel's regional partners from signing the Abraham Accords.
De-recognise Israel as a Jewish state, we need all of Palestine as one democratic country with equal rights for all.
The US has nothing to say that the world wants to hear
…. That anti Semites want to hear
... and will not listen to what the world has to say.
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... AGREE, THE U.S HAS ACOMPLISH NOTHING SINCE 1948, ONLY MURDER.
U.S IS OUT.
@@ovidiopopa1227 you are a pathetic person.
I 100% agree with that!
I am from the Netherlands, 59 years old, not a muslim but I support the Palestinian people.
Ik ben 44 en steun ook de Palestijnen
Then you will spend plenty of time with them in hell.
You don't have to be a Muslim to support humanity of all shades. Good that you are one of the sane and tolerant people who don't subscribe to extremist Zionist idealogy on both sides of the spectrum whether Jew or Muslim or atheist. Zionism is the new definition for Apartheid.
And as a white British atheist veteran of the British armed forces I 100% agree...Zionisim is a threat to all mankind as much was nazism
@@naymatunc-rc6vs I am 70 years old and do not support them. why? here we go...
Here is A crash course on history of the so called "PALESTINIAN STATE":
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE. A little more history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'. In 132 AD the Emperor Hadrian resolved to stamp the Jews and their religion out of existence. He sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery after the revolt of Bar Kikhba, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem’s name to Aelia Capitolina. He renamed Israel to wipe out the national identity of Israel and the Jews.
Tarik Ali is so well spoken and so knowledgeable. It is always inspiring and such a treat to hear what M. Ali has to say. Thank you for this interview 🙏
IF THIS IS ISLAMIC WISDOM, NO WONDER the world is in such a state.
@@cathyontong5324 What do you mean?
I can tell you what's going on here in Germany. We also have a gigantic Z.Lobby who steer the narrative, just like in the US and the rest of Europe.
I would have thought of all the countries in the world, Germany should be the first to stand against the genocide of the Palestinians. However, the guilt over the holocaust is the excuse for the support of the Zios.
Zionists and Nazis had a relationship. Zionism is not Judaism and doesn't support the Jewish faith.
What’s is it called? You might have to use alt letters. I often mix Ukrainian, Korean and Cherokee letters like ᎿнᎥᎦ.
Lobby? do you support burning people while alive in their beds at 6 in the morning before coffee, just because they where born Jewish? the palishitians had a state in gaza 2006 to 2023, there will not be a palishitian state ever again
We have the same in France
Very informative interview.
I.m with you gentlemen palestine will be free from the river to the sea
Do u think anyone is really free under Hamas?
Palestina libera 🇵🇸❤️ dal Italia
This was beautiful. I have missed Tariq Ali.
Powerful interview. Thank you 🙏🏽
From the very beginning, I opposed Israel's war. Many Jewish friends blasted me for this.
Anyone knowing an ounce of background knew that oct 7th was a desperate call for help. And oh boy the world has answered the call. May Palestine finally be free!
Shows you how right Voltaire was about them
@@sofiajohansson8537Warsaw ghetto was also a slave revolt. The Hannibal Directive proces that the IDF killed more Israelis than Hamas!
Well,if that is their style to call for desperate help,then Israel now is just offering assistance.
@@Fugazinome Assistance to make trye the zionist claim that "a land without a people for a people without a land": clean space for Israel to expand its borders.
Thank you for this amazing interview and work you guys do ❤❤❤❤
Yes all the world should get together on this
We all need to express our disgust
Gang up against the Jews - quite the Mr. Original, aren't you? 😂
@mazariqbal Yes the whole world is together with Israel.
@@ssimba2785 dreaming
FREE , FREE PALESTINE
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MUST BE ARREST satanyahu !!! 🤬🤬🤬
76 years of occupation and apartheid still resisting for freedom 🇵🇸🇵🇸
@@naymatunc-rc6vs is 76 years not long enough to support fight for one's right or sheer blindness or double standard?
😂😂 keep dreaming
Israel is not a occupier but returned to their land. Stop the nonsense of saying occupiers
@@daviddavidjr.1144 what you saying is nonsense
if the Jewish people can take so called their land back
the red indians and the Aboriginals has the same rights to take their land back after so many centuries
the kurds have the right to take turkiya back because its actually their land before it was turkiya
@@Abe-wy7ct Right for what, committing crimes?
A thief never becomes an owner
Exactly!!!!!!!
Very very true. While its simple to say and hear, it crosses all worlds
And peace is never possible when racism and supremacy exist.
Yes he does . It is stated that. Possession is nine tenths of the law..
And the owner you claim never had ownership. Jordan is Palestine
Thank you gentlemen, very interesting conversation
Tariq’s history admirable in his warnings - asked 4 his advise: Tariq says: Don’t Give Up! You are the opposition! This presence is owed at least! In US and Britain. With pens - making documentaries. Podcasts like this! ( Connie Nash)
The UN and UK have a responsibility to correct the historical mistake that is the state of Israel.
Unfortunately for them Israel will drag them into a war and bankrupt them.
The Israelis have where to go actually most of them they have dual nationality why they occupied Palestinian’s land who were to live in peace before 1948 . Real Jews ,Christian and Muslim were living in peace . Occupation and apartheid have to end . Thanks of the most world who woke up finally.
@@1021Adam if world is awakened finally to palestinians rights, and America remain as the world power complicit in deaths as acts of terror by israel, the world might be able to awaken them to change course to press israel for peace
Israhall has to go back to poland or USA and Europe
@@Addis0749you are really out of your mind mate.... that is their land there is no such palestine....... gazans are just nomads in this land ...... no arabs countries want to support them since they always create troubles everywhere...... history shows how much troubles gazans have caused in the arabs world....😂
@@Addis0749Israel stays where it is. Palestinian have Jordan as their country
Which one? 0.5%? Or less?
MAY ALLAH BLESS PALESTINE
A must listen. Sharp! So is Mark Seddon is also especially well-aware!!
"'tis the time's plague when madmen lead the blind"
Shakespeare.
..adding : when our countries are goverened by criminals
True! The Blind Lead the Blind. "NO ONE IS AS DEAF AS THOSE WHO SIT OR STAND IN THE PRESENCE OF WISDOM AND REFUSE TO LISTEN!!! ALL WHO DON'T BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST IS THE LORD ARE BLIND. THEY NEED TO PULL THEIR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND SO THEY CAN SEE PAST THEIR NOSE AND OVER THEIR SHOULDERS. ISLAMISTS WILL BOW DOWN TO JESUS CHRIST SOON!
yeah its good TARIQ aint in power.
all the respect, very good talk. thanks
Thank you, Mark Seddon, for having Tarik Ali on your podcast for this discussion.
Another great writer and truth teller of what is happening in Palestine and our world political leaders of who are destroying our world.
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Looking good, Mr Ali. I have followed you for a very long time.
🙏 Thanks for your endless courage!
Excellent discussion, thank you.
This kind of a one-state solutions seems to be getting more and more traction. BTW I personally first heard about it from the renown Israeli journalist Gideon Levy, who said he supported the two-state solution for many years but now deems it no longer possible. I believe he said it about 4 years ago.
and why would they and why should they accept being squeezed into a tiny box of space when they once roamed free from the river to the sea?? Pple say they cannot live in peace together. Well, you gotta have a strong civil system of law and order, where if blood is shed, then they go to court like in any healthy civil society. It may take a generation, and a lot of death, but pple do change and adjust. the problem is tho is religion. the extremist traditional jews and rabid islamic ideology, they are mental health conditions and need to be de-radicalised so they can live in a society and respect everyone. And I do not think this will happen. Unless radicalism is banned and made a crime. Most Muslims around the world do not cause problems or want to takeover the world. And not all Jews around the world want to have special treatment. The Israeli govt is stacked full of right wing haters, but not all. Remember a man who was thrown out of the Knesset for speaking common sense and for peace.
Two state was only only to kick the can down the road. The world should not accept this.
Disrahel is too irrational and greedy for that to ever work. There should be a total "right of return" for ALL of Palestine. The settlers have occupied land grabbed illegally and should be forced off. For those who "bought" from crooked realtors in Jewish-only land sales in the US (like the one in L.A. that was protested but defended by shill Mayor Bass), too bad. File legal claims against those who took your money but you forfeit every square inch! Incovenient? So what? The Palestinians have been far more incovenienced over the past 76 years than you'll ever be!
Russia and Belarus were not allowed for team presentation at Olimpic’s opening ceremony, yet there was no such restriction for Israeli athletes!
Great to see Tariq Ali again. He’s right . A single secular democratic state ,with equal rights for all is the only solution.
What’s becoming so obvious to people now is that colonialism has never ended just rebranded with different terms. From Natives indigenous people being called “savages” in the old days to now being called “terrorist” by neocolonialists who are neoliberals, neoconservatives, and zionist.
1) Savages is now “terrorist”
2) Civilizing them is now “bringing them democracy”
We can all see Israel is a colonial project being supported by former and current colonials such as U.S, UK, and others who also control territories of indigenous natives in Caribbean Islands, Pacific Islands, Hawaii, and many more.
The liberation of Palestine will definitely give RISE to many indigenous natives around the world to free themselves from western domination. This is the underlying ripple effect that the U.S government and its puppet allies don’t want to happen.
Great, are Arabs going to get out of north Africa lands. Egypt,Libya,Morocco,Tunisia,Algeria just to mention few? 😂
@@NegroPapa stop it. They are not oppressing others, they are all suffering too
🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱 God bless Israel and IDF forever
I've been saying this for years - DECOGNISE.
Decognise Israel.
(Frm NZ Aotearoa)
😂😂😂😂 keep dreaming of it mate......
I'm a Californian living in Europe and London. I've boycotted Israel for 76 years and counting.
Ned Kelly from Aotearoa has been saying it for years... 😂
CORRECT !!! ... satanyahu MUST BE ARREST NOW !!!
@@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 congrats !!!
Absolutely great talk and discussion. ❤
Why did Britain give Palestinian land to the Jews exclusively? Can't you reverse that act?
If they can't and realize their wrong at least they're human enough to admit in words and act in words to stand for today's palestinian sufferings are rooted from the past.
Britain didn’t have the legal right to give that land, as they were occupying it, not legally allowed to give away. The only land any state can give away legally is its own contiguous land.
If you didn't notice. The British Mandate also included today's Jordan. 70% of the Mandate territory was given to the Arabs aka Jordan today. Jordanians= Palestinians = Arabs. All the same people.
@@Sp3ll633 incorrect. All Arabs are not the same. They aren’t a monolith. Palestinians are in a small part of the territory they are indigenous to. Jordanians are in their indigenous territory. And, Israelis are in a territory many have no genetic ties to. Besides, it was not legal for British to sell land they were illegally occupying. That violates the UN charter. An occupying force has no rights to the land they are occupying. They only have obligations to the people indigenous to the land. Technically, Israel and the UK both owe Palestinians reparations, and are obligated to end their occupation.
Firstly, the land did not belong to the Arabs who started calling themselves "palestinians" in 1964. It is a land which has been conquered numerous times over the centuries. It was held by the Ottomans for 400 years, and then conquered by the British. At no point in history did it ever belong to the Arabs now known as "palestinians". They are not even indigenous as they claim, and if you check the population data of the Ottoman era and of the British mandate era, you will see that the vast majority of them only moved to the land after 1850. Additionally, it was not the British which gave the Jews a homeland, but the UN who ratified the Jewish state. Thirdly, it was not given exclusively to the Jews. After Jordan, 4 times the size of Israel was already given to the Arabs, the UN suggested the 1947 partition plan which divided the country 55% Jews 45% Arabs, although the Jews' 55% included the Negev desert so it was not as good as the Arab's land. The Jews agreed, the Arabs refused and started a war, which included the armies of all surrounding arab countries, and the openly stated aim of "exterminating" the Jews and taking their land. The Jews fought back and won, and in the process, 700 arabs left/were expelled from their villages during the war. This is what they call their "Nakba"
Brilliant interview and interesting insights 👍👍👍
The world has woken up and seen Israel's true colors and the horrific atrocities they are carrying out against the Palestinian people.
An interesting observation is that Russia’s Military painted a Big (Z) on the sides of their Armoured Vehicles.
And they've also destroyed the West.
The world woke up and realised Israel was the physco theives sort of nation
Its not news to me that Hamas represent the so called "Palestinian" people, if there is such a people. Hamas are the legal representatives of the people who appointed them into government, who voted them into power, guess who that was? Hmm let me think now? that would be the Palestinian people, would it not? Hamas were voted into power, corruptly voted into power by fixing the vote by threats and intimidation of their people. This fact is shown by the actions taken by Hamas as soon as they got into power, they went about rounding up their Muslim political opposition, they chased them down in their thousands, shot them in the backs, strung them up by their necks in the most cruel manner and hanged them all, including torture to extract information from them as to where their cash was and their valuables were kept. Many PA members were murdered by Hamas, who were supposed to be the friends of Hamas, Since Hamas had forcibly removed their political opposition they obviously were able to keep a firm hold on power, as now their was no need for elections, and any that did take place the people were threatened to vote for the only gang in town, that being the Hamas Mafia. There can be no doubt that the Biblical saying bares true here: "You reap what you sow" yes the folly and the stupidity of the people who live in Gaza have now reaped what they have sown by voting in their worst nightmare and the Hamas vampire has come to bite them all in their necks! Their blood spilling aplenty as they now regret their actions and are bombed to death as Hamas use them as shields of death to proclaim huge numbers in accusation against Israel, but this is a lie! The death of these so called Arab innocents lay at the hands of Hamas, whose cruelty knows no bounds! You have now wrought the whirlwind, now you Arab people experience the hurricane in full force and realise that your folly is your own!
@@davidmarston207my God , what does that mean ?
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 Now the US can stop saying they believe the settlements in Palestine are inconsistent with International law, and start saying that the settlements ARE illegal under International law 🙄 ... 🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉
They will loose world leadership for their words and actions do not match
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@@ovidiopopa1227stand strong
@yyy-875 I got a strange feeling that you honestly think the Europeans who call themselves Je wish are actually the same Israelites in the Bi-Bull 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You do know that the Europeans in Izreal converted to Judaism and don't share the blood of the original Izraelites? The arabs we call Palestinians have been living on that land for over 3000 years and are actually the semites known as Israelites. But they changed their religion because of invaders
Excellent interview
I have been a supporter of Palestine since my grand father told me how wonderful the people are after being there as a soldier in WW11.
Never heard about this history at all your grandfather 👴 has the wrong history mate
Mine was there and said god help us if we ever allow Muslim immigrants into Australia.
@@BabeMozart troll.
Only ONE PALESTİNE
Why did they massacre the Jews of Hebron in 1929?
Hello Mr Ali. Good to meet you.
It's horrendous what's happening in Palestine Netanyahu needs to be stopped he a monster
Great conversation, interesting perspective
The battle is not against flesh and blood but against the principalities and the powers of Darkness
in which case I wish you victory over yourself
I.e. the Anglican hierarchy.😂
It is a loose loose state of affairs for Israel either a true democratic state which will give Palestinians the right to return and the state of Israel will have to compensate for its illegal practices. Or a two state solution either way Palestine wins.
Congress will pay any compensation.
Great man Tariq
Need to add a correction there's at least *TEN* EU countries recognizing Palesting by now, not just Ireland and spain.
There's only 3 or 4 that still send weapons and parts at this point.
Great Interview
Excellent presentation by Tariq Ali! He is knowledgeable and a deep thinker with measured responses.👏👏👏
"There should be a one-state solution - a secular, democratic one." Well, we are firmly in the realms of fantasy solutions here. It's one thing to posit this as an ideal, but the simple reality is there is next to no constituency for it, neither among Israelis nor Palestinians. Pretending you can just wave your magic wand and impose your ideal isn't going to help anybody.
Many Palestinians now argue for a one state solution. Analysts who previously argued for a two state solution now argue for a one state solution. The settlements have made a two state solution impossible. It is the two state solution that is now a fantasy. The only solution is a one state solution, shared by Palestinians and the Jews who chose to remain. But it will be a long and bloody road.
I do not recognize any theocracy as a legitimate state.
Same here. There should not be any stated based on religion!
Israel isn’t really a theocracy - religion is their cover, but most Zionists are secular atheists.
Separation of church and state is imperative as the USA 🇺🇸 did.
@@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 Except in reality the US state is run by way too many Christian Zionists with an overzealous desire to bring about Armageddon. So much for that idea.
Especially from atheists
I've been thinking this for the past 9 months. Thought I was crazy. Good to know I'm not alone!
Land belongs to man not a so called god - the land has been fed by the flesh and blood of those who lived and worked on it since the beginning of time.. Believe what you want but do not steal other peoples land just because you have created a religion.
Thank you for applying logic and reason.
I have not met anyone with such a clear view of what is happening in the world as Tariq Ali. Stay informed and read or listen to him.
Wow, this video has a lot of likes!! Keep it up!
My dear Sirs, thank you for all the work you do. Mr Ali, your book Winston Churchill His Times His Crimes, a complete masterpiece. The man was a monster, and people still held him up on a pedestal, sick, isn't it?
America has made the WEST truly WILD.
You can't go "wrong" with Tariq Ali: a Truly remarkable man and a hero to those who value justice for the voiceless and powerless. Thanks, Mark!
Tariq. that is lawful touching on the world's existentiality
I’m 67 Aust woman I’ve backed Palestine since 68 ..
Great discussion - thank you
Great interview. Thank you for sharing this.
I don't recognise israel.
No one recognises a false place called palestine.
@@BobLouden-r9q brainwashed troll.
@@BobLouden-r9q troll.
@@BobLouden-r9q I recognise Palestine.
@@BobLouden-r9q only colonial criminals recognise israel.
Many thanks for the truth we should not give up
I love u guys ❤
Most eloquent Mr Tariq Ali
great coverage thank you very much
Long Live 🇵🇸
Palestine will be Free, Sovereing, Independent, Loved and Successful!
Tariq Ali’s glasses are amazing.
Good interview, but it has to be said that citizen intervention DOES work, BDS is crippling Israel....Intel pulled back from a 25bn $ deal, the port blokkade is working thanks to the yemeni, so the encampments and BDS campaigns do make a big difference
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Mark! Thank you for the great question about the Arab countries so mutated during this horrific genocide!
Alan Duncan is the only tory I have respect for.
Amen Tariq - well said!
ALLAH BLESS YOU TARIQ
Impervious is the best adjective for this situation, thank you.
that's it 🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏❣️❣️❣️
Thank you.
What a wonderful insightful educated interesting conversation, thank you so much 🙏
🙏🇵🇸💔😭💔😭#freepalestine #speakup #humanity
Totally agree with the headline
😮😮 🤥🤥🤥 Does anyone find it a coincidence that you cannot spell Israel without the letters L-I-A-R-S?? 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
i can’t wait to come back later and watch this
I like how he thinks. De-recognize it!!!
Excellent!!
Jeremy won his seat as an independent. 🎉
I am German. I follow the discussion aubout AFD. Mister Ali: you got something wrong. Maximilian Krah did not say, that the SS did good things. He said that not ervery SS-member automatically was a criminal. That is a difference. And by the way. The ruling partys support fascist Ukrainians and say "SLAVA UKRAINI" and promote racist resentiments against Russians. And it was the AFD that opposed the Corona-Fascism!
The interviewer speaks more than the interviewee. Surely, he can pose his questions in a mote succient way so we can actually hear Mr Ali speak for longer.
I dont recognise Is real now. Poof ..gone
I bet they are really scared.
@@jimseltzer2002 I don' give a frack either way but I do know my opinion represents thousands who won't say it.
@@HeidiEisenhuth you only represent 1000 poofs
Well spoken.
THE U.N.BIG MITAKE IS recognise israel as a new country in 1948
Take israel to Arizona .california.and let Palestine free
It would be more just for Germany to give up land to create the Jewish state. It was the crimes committed by Europe, and atrocities committed by Germany, that are the reason there was a need for a Jewish state to begin with.
Ralphe Wilde ICJ speech memorable
Dr Ralph Wilde is a member of the Faculty of Laws at University College London.
The PEOPLE of palestine have no NEED of "memorable" speeches. The PEOPLE of PALESTINE "need" water!!! food!!! medical aid!!! homes!!! 🤨 FREE PALESTINE!!
@@WWG1WWGA the speech declared the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine illegal so it is very significant.
@@FEBF-g7b not "significant" to the people STILL suffering after all these "memorable" speeches. 🤨
ICJ erased the zionist "State" from the map,
On Germany: After hearing Gabor Mate talking about the trauma aspect of it, I came up with this: a family two parents, two kids. Abusive parent (NAZIS) abuses the kids (Jews) and the other parent (non nazi Germans) knows (partakes) but doesn’t help the kids. One kid deals with the trauma and seeks justice and to help that stuff like that doesn’t happen to others. The other kid says: “I’m never again the weak one.” and starts abusing others. The second parent knowing what happened and feeling guilty lets the violent kid do what he wants and defends it even against the sibling. (If you wanna go on: the role of all other parties UK, US, … can fit in too) In the end we have Jews like Gabor Mate, Norman Finkelstein, Marek Edelmann, Ilan Pappe and on the other side Bibi Netanjahu and Co. And the Germans that can’t deal with stuff. All trauma.