Sorry… not buying it… your word is s?!t
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- Опубликовано: 7 мар 2024
- Deconstructing a recent video about taking people for their word… When none of the facts and data we have points to anything other than bullshit
#armwrestling #biceps #diet #grip #natty #natural #strength #truth #motivation 
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I agree, 99% of the time, nobody’s going to admit that they’re on the juice!
1:00 lol
Put your elbow on a table so I can teach you some manners
darn i thought you were gonna say you're juiced to the gills at first 😂
😂😂
Hahah
Eastern block is the Steroid block
meanwhile TRT in USA is a lifestyle
@@andreaskyriakopoulos2976 at least we aint juiced to the gills
@@forktailedDevilP-38J91 no just every other social media american is red like tomato at 30 yo
@@eutiger4789 LMAO
@@eutiger4789what? 😅
arm wrestling is juiced to the max.
So refreshing hearing a newer generation with calling it like it is. A foul is a foul is a *Foul* EOD!
Lol yeah i was laughing after Lelatin's WAF champion logic... doesn't hold water in the least, so many WAF champs have popped
Clearly he’s been juicing the past few years while he’s gained all this weight. But years ago the guy was dominating juiced up dudes while he was a skinny guy who looked like he hadn’t lifted in his life lol. I do think he was natural up until 2018 or so
@@georgepoly4842 it's possible for him, but the field is riddled with cheaters in WAF
@@armwrestlerjeff yeah that’s beyond clear.
I'm not sure what pradeep or Vitaly said... but I remember recently Prudnik putting out a video saying he was going to be pulling clean for an EvW event (implying that he had been using previously). If anything I would guess that Vitaly was just saying that he & the others he mentioned were clean when they won their WAF championships....not afterwards. I would guess that most would admit to using now. once again... I do not know though.
Indeed. I saw that video from Prudnik. It was just before he pulled Davit Dadikyan.
As a bulgarian armwrestling hobbyist I feel offended that I haven't yet juiced myself :D Great video Rob. All my life I was around professional strength athletes and I can assure you - EVERYONE IS ON GEAR. Even if you are 6-10 months clean, you were 5 years prior on gear to get to that level faster. Testing is sports is a joke as well. There are many ways you can cheat it. Also popular sports have a political aspects in them - china 2008 Olympics for example. The athletes were on so much gear , but they took most of the gold medals. It has always been like that.
You're speaking facts . . . The only thing more ridiculous than what Laletin said is someone taking it seriously.
God, you are a modern poet :"Eat a d?ck sandwich". This one was good. Like the other day:"F?ck me sideways Charlie!". I can't help my self...you're really good.
lol… i’m glad you appreciate it… I let it fly as it comes out about some people think I’m an asshole some people like it
Because they are lying… If you think I’m triggered, then you are misread this… I have many levels of getting triggered… I think people like to use that word to downplay the case at hand, as if I’m an emotional basket case. When you put a video out there to the masses and act like everything you did is possible clean when you in fact, didn’t do it clean it put a skewed reality out there, I’m here to correct that fake shit
Mentioning Levan while trying to make a point against steroids being necessary was comical, too 🙂
😂😂 honesty 💯💯
Damn, that was solid !!!! Pradeep digs deep for some of his facts. Is he afraid to challenge
Always laying the smackdown Champ!
Can you do an updated riser lift, wondering what you can do when fully rested
😂😂 Mr No Filter Rob!! Get em all Rob!
My sentiments exactly
Truth. We all know most of the guys we trained with are on stuff and that’s just guys who are not top level. Keep calling them out Rob.
You gotta love RVJ telling it like it is. Need more people like him
Dam straight!!!!🍻
Sooo true.....been going to the gym for 30 plus years....muscle growth isnt magic
Rob was made to break the Woke internet. Love him!
Only guy spitting truth
Straight fax
I gotta saw even the AW Buzz crew were busting his balls HARD. 😂💪💪💪👊👊👊
Yasssss I hope this beef continues for years to come lol. Definitely entertaining haha. Both y'all doing some really good trash talking lol
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I don't know why I can't get enough of it lol. Guess where I like both y'all and it's good to see y'all taking jabs at each other lol. The RVJ riled up is something I hope we all get the pleasure of watching for decades more 💪
It’s great seeing vids like this I hate when especially people say that vitally is natty and then say oh it’s russion magical mutant genetics I’m like bruh a true ectomorph like vitally who struggles to gain weight as it is goes from 209 to a little over 300 in good shape that ain’t natty at all bro is juiced up and has been juiced up for a while now
Preach !!
Don't ever change Rob!
Those guys are all juiced to the gills! I'd love to see all of them clean and find out who's really the best not who's the most enhanced
Rob i love the channel your a great guy and i agree with you bit i will say i been armwrestling for 4 months now and im 185 pounds...but last year i was 220 and ive weighed 246 before and thats without steriods so all im saying is its possible to gain 50 pounds in a year but its not gonna be 50 pounds of muscle like all these guys so yea i agree with you but...natural guys can. Gain the weight to i believe just not as easy...sorry for long post
No, it’s not a long post and I accept context… But these guys are gaining some quality weight fast… I know you can gain weight but it’s what kind of weight as well as the results to back it up.
I appreciate the feedback
Yea I agree with ya rob...because when I was 246 and starting workouts again I was half fat and muscle so totally agree you are right..impossible to gain quality muscle that fast ermes is great example...no way that's natural no offense to ermes I like him
I just figured it out… RVJ is Armwrestling’s Chael Sonnen!
I am 6'-4" and went from 225lbs. at about age 28/29 to 310lbs. by age 45. That is an average weight gain of just over 5lbs per year. I wanted to add here from working out that whole 16ish years not sitting on the couch eating tato chips! lol! No roids ever except hemeroids.....lol! It is possible for us taller guys to carry larger amounts of weight even lean muscle weight. I will say I was getting pretty chubby at 310lbs. though, about ready for a C-PAP machine and I am now down to a nice healthy and lean 268ish lbs. For sure most of the guys over there are juicing, just not sure about a guy as tall as Vitaly at 6'-8" though? He could in fact gain that kind of lean weight at that height naturally. I think if he was juicing, he could become a real monster!....If he is in fact lying than yes, he should go eat a dick sandwich! lol!
He's lying there ain't none of the guys pulling EvW not juiced
yeah some people are just genetic freaks, I went to highschool with a kid that I ended up working with for a while in hvac after we graduated, and he was 6'8" 330lbs, some body fat sure but that dude had abnormal strength, for example he just casually overhead pressed a 200lb furnace by the outer chassis that the face panels connect to, and walked up a ladder with it like that, through an attic space for a downflow attic install we were doing. kid was 19 at the time. I was 23 and had been working out for 3 years already and was amazed at this dudes strength regardless of his size. I rarely meet people in person stronger than me and this kid was by a mile
@@ryantylerMachetehow do you know he was natty?
@@ryantylerMachete there are even some up and coming young armwrestlers who are for sure not juicing that fit that sort of description as well. Not every single genetically gifted "freak" is juicing, just look at Rob himself as an example. It would be very easy for the rest of us normal guys to assume he is juicing too by comparison to ourselves, but I respect Rob for taking his stand on this issue though......
@@Joel-McConnellhow do you know they aren’t juicing?
I watched this shite reallll fking quick incase it bites the dust as well :D love the bullshite callouts rob fk yeah
same weight for 20 years speaks volumes. People will know if you decide to go the quick fix route. superhulk would emerge.
Unfortunately that's why it'll never be an Olympic sport. 💪
Lezzz go😂
Ive been on the juice before, have no problem with it, what Levan is on is another level though
Good evening my friend
Don't spit on my cupcake and call it icing.
Well i can say ive been honestly on your ass, but this is the gods honest truth. Look at ermes. Dude was 99.2lbs and now is 260 and his head is 3x the size of
Vitaly did look natural up until last few years. Naturally tall and skinny. He was referring to several years ago wasnt he? Super skinny.
But bro, he threw prudnyk in there, too.
And let’s be real if you’re genetic make up is to be tall and lanky, just pack it on mass ain’t really that easy… Not 100 pounds of mass
@@RobVigeantRVJ Prudnik used steroids for the first time in 2019 for the TOP 8. He said it himself many times
@@michaelmerk64well if he said that was the first time, it most certainly must be true...
Lol
@@RobVigeantRVJ Whats unbelievable about Prudnik being natty in his WAF years? In 2011 he competed at 85kg and in 2018 (his last WAF performance) at 90kg. No dramatic weight change up until he joined TOP 8.
@@richardgamrat1944 exactly had a long run where we could speculate on what he was doing in that timeframe but for almost a decade within a few pounds… Hits top eight and goes to 250
Nobody seems to mention Ermes in these conversations. Look at that fuckin guy’s transformation
Hundred percent… There’s too many to talk about this is literally just the guys that Pradeep talked about… But the timeline of so many guys is so startling
@@RobVigeantRVJ none of them are going to be healthy 50 year olds. But then there’s Richard Lupkes I guess
@@stevelegreid … There’s always outliers… Healthy? Who knows… But I remember seeing him pull at 200/220.
@@RobVigeantRVJ it’s crazy to watch the WAL version of Ermes against Matt Mask the first time
The video of him pulling Michael Todd shows a leanish 220 pounder or so bouncing around like a Mexican jumping bean. Hmm, something happened there somewhere 😮😮.
Agree ...
Deepsnooze really gets on my ...its like a pimple on the bollock that will not go away!
The maximum muscle weight gain for a person with elite genetics in their 1st year of training with no PEDS would be 30 to 40 pounds. This would quickly slow to 20 pounds max in second year and so on. This is assuming they have elite muscle gaining genetics. The only way to speed this process up or make higher gains in the subsequent years is with PEDS. Regaining previous muscle mass is quicker. Strength gains follow the same curve.
I thought Prudnyk admitted to using peds already.
It is hilarious when people still comment how WAF is a tested event.
People actually fighting for a cause over guys defending innocence that the guys even admitted they were using…😆🧐🤦🏻♂️
Many eastern athletes have said before that if they dont take gear, they will not be able to compete with all the other eastern athletes on gear. So they have to do it. It basically comes down to who juiced the best.
We’ve all been getting served a lot of shit sandwiches lately. Not just in arm wrestling either.
NOOO EXTRA F@CKIN MAYONAISE!😂
I can’t seem to gain more than 5 or 10 pounds myself lol
Yeah bro, we must just be genetic losers
Pwadeep is just happy all the time he is getting attention from top arm wrestlers Rob, because that brings attention to him from fans. Not me though, FTG. See ya in Ireland Ahooooooo
Yeah, attention he can have it he’s still a piece of shit… And if it means giving him attention by throwing attention on the fact that he’s a piece of shit… I’ll give it to him
@@RobVigeantRVJ haha fair enough!
I would also just like to state, in the extremely rare chance that Levan was natural when he was smaller and competing, he didnt start consistently winning until he blew up into a monster...
👌ace
crazy stuff even the girls will have Mohawks colored hair and bulging muscles
the top arm wrestlers in the world are natty, this means you can also get to the top as well , this is good news for you !
Bro, stop with the trolling… Everybody’s banging face
But I agree I can get to the top… Without gaining 100 pounds
👍👍in Norway they can come home to you and test
😂😂😂
haven't had meatloaf in a few years
Asking armwrestlers whether they are on gear is completely different compared to mainstream sports athletes so not a valid comparison. The armwrestling community is much more open about usage and the reference word pancakes is thrown around constantly.
Pradeep stirring the pot again.
Pradeep probably believes Lebron has never used PED’s either
Dennis, Arsen, and Levan are still more natty than Jason Genova.
Janoy Cresva
Prisons are full of innocent people
Not really
That’s liberal
Still have no clue how Pradipshit gets views and acknowledgment from this community.
Seriously
based meatloaf
Prasleep knows exactly FA he regurgitates bs he heard somewhere else then trys putting some kinda nonsense spin of his own on it to sound intellectual. I saw what he was doing day 1. Get him on a table so I can teach him some manners
Haha. You'd think that anyone with a brain could sniff out the truth about PEDs in this sport. But, unfortunately, some people just aren't well educated on the sauzule. Its all about longitudinal data people. Look at the past and see the changes/timeline. You can't be an already well trained, 160-180 pound puller in your early to mid-20s and end up as 260 pound puller by the time you're 30. If you do, you're either a fat slob who had packed on more fat than lean body mass OR you're juicing to the gills. Pretty simple.
Guys who are natural will gain the vast majority of their muscle in the first 3 to 5 years. Then if they're lucky and consistent, they may gain 1 to 2 pounds a year after that for the next 5 years(expect some degree of variation depending upon genetics). As we age and our bodies begin to reach our genetic potential that slows down to a snails pace. The human body is not designed to just gain more and more muscle at the exact same pace as "newbie gains" for a decade straight. Alot of these guys, you can see that within a 2 - or 3-year window, they've made 20 years' worth of gains.
Cowabunga. Who is this predip guy?
He’s a fucking telemarketer who wants to know your credit score and wants to fuck with your life in between being an annoying little prick who talks about I’m wrestling he knows nothing all he knows how to do is make money off of talking about other people’s accolades that’s it
Listen. You put a little salt and pepper plus a bit of mustard in that shit sandwich and it ain't half bad. Give it a try!
Just hit not interested on a few of his videos and they won't show up
I'm pretty sure Masic is natty
“Pretty sure”…
Who knows anymore
The guys a f’ing dork
Not every single genetically gifted "freak" is juicing, just look at Rob himself as an example. It would be very easy for the rest of us normal guys to assume Rob is juicing too by comparison to ourselves, but I respect Rob for taking his stand on this issue though......
I agree that is something that’s out there. It’s just not the guys that we are talking about right now just point to the guys that fit that category.
I like what you are doing about being natty and I fully believe that you are. At the same time, I also don't care if guys juice as long as they are honest about it. I do think we need to be careful about witch hunts without actual proof. They burned a lot of innocent women back in the day over assumptions. After all we only have your word as well, none of us here in wacky ass YT land really know for sure, do we.....You are much closer to the issue than we are, so I have to assume (there is that word again) that you know who is and who isn't better than the rest of us.
Yeah, I mean I respect the witchhunt thing but I’ve been at this a long time and I’m confident with the data I’ve collected
@@RobVigeantRVJ if you respected that why did you remove it? lol! I can't see my comment here any longer, so I have to ASSUME you removed it, I don't really know for sure just like everything else about this topic. My first point was simply that it is in fact possible for Vitaly at his height to be natural at that weight. He really does not seem that unusual to me. And does Dave not juice? So, a juicer beat another juicer, so what! lol! Anyway, moving along now. I don't have a dog in this fight or even care honestly what other grown people chose to do with their own lives, they will have to pay that bill one day when it comes due, not me.....
@@Joel-McConnell I never removed comments… RUclips is had a weird thing where he moves random comments for whatever reason I don’t understand it it even removes mine sometimes… Now onto the Vitaly thing it’s not about his size that’s the problem it’s about where he was as a full grown adult, and where he is nowit’s the transition in size and strength and in a timeframe
Plz rob stop watching that snakes videos. Who cares about him.
😅💉💯
Even Engin claims he’s natural and he was always tested but he’s a juice head
Engin is also a coke head whos never done coke.
02:13 You know people like to eat well as their income increases. Could it be that they spent their money on quality food while you spent most of your money on lawyers? J/K. 😅
This incessant finger pointing you fancy doing towards the East is useless when Westerners are pumping them as much, on top of the stem cells they can afford easier which is a pay to win problem in armwrestling and the older pullers like John and Ron using TRT. Oh BUHH BUHH BIG BAD RUSSIAN BEAR because they got popped. Westerners are doing it as much and you are shifting focus with this so you don't feel like the Western side you are part of is as bad. Face reality. There are practically no better sides. Vitaly gaining once again is not unbelievable considering
his frame and the unclean diet many armwrestlers use to bulk up. Have Vitalys strength gains been unnatural? Elaborate on this point or cut the finger pointing bs.
Why are you trying to point out the other guilty people when someone’s pops for being guilty just fucking eat it we know who’s out there, but stop trying to drag everyone down on your guilt train bro… Doesn’t change the crime
Bro, I did a whole study on NBA players that are fucking jacked like Giannis and Wilt Chamberlain. They’re seven fucking foot plus… In 245… Stop overstating the fucking frame Vitali was 209.
@@RobVigeantRVJ You are literally making the point the Easterners got the worldwide attention due to the doping bust in order to guilt trip the Russians and make an "example" of them so you can portray them as the bigger bad which skews the reality when the Westerners are on as much gear on top of the stem cells and higher number of older pullers on TRT. No one is downplaying you calling out the Easterners. You are just using this point as a leeway to criticize Laletin and Matyushenko even though your evidence for them using is so weak. You are just rambling based off a useless weight argument that doesn't hold up, when you should prove that their strength progressions weren't natural. Did I grind it down enough, you simpleton?
@@RobVigeantRVJ I replied to your basketball example which is complete nonsense, but you clearly have a problem comprehending basic logic and are riding on willful ignorance now. Let's repeat the obvious.
Basketball players base their training on cardio. Armwrestlers don't. Lmao, you are literally comparing two groups from the opposite ends of the spectrum and still you are surprised why those basketball players aren't heavier. Yeah, maybe because they aren't looking to gain absolute mass like armwrestlers. Absolutely moronic. They are jacked? Oh really? It's almost as if Vitaly as an armwrestler is miraculously carrying much more fat than them on top of the muscle he has. The height difference is nowhere near enough to make a difference. Quiet your mouth and sit down.
@@aaa-yr2ok see you have a SKU for the Easterners I’m just stating on specific people claiming something I didn’t say that anybody from the west was less guilty. What I did say was their claims were bullshit and because I called their claims bullshit you want me now to start pointing fingers at everybody. I will not quiet down you can go fuck yourself.
Damn you need to order at least 10 to 15 lb of cheese to go with all that damn whining.
Sorry you have poor comprehension. All I said was I’m not buying the bullshit just because someone says it’s bullshit now I could accept that he does what he does. Just don’t fucking lie to me about it expect me to believe it.
Like, just because you say yes, it’s yes no motherfucker it doesn’t add up
@@RobVigeantRVJ he thinks stating the facts and calling out people saucing is whining 🤣🤣🤣
@@CepheusFromTheMoonit's just we've heard it 50 times before the same regurgitated horseshit
@@devonsstemcells1442 just say you agree
#therealistshit