If brutes are that powerful, I even have more respects for elites. The fact that they can competitively fight against monsters is somewhat mind-bobbling.
Elites are way more intelligent than the Brutes and far superior tacticians. As Rtas Vadum said during the battle of Installation 00 when he was told the Brute fleet outnumbered them 3:1 "Then it is an even fight."
Boris Johnson On job I appreciate the gesture. But I saw it already. My favorite brute centered video done by eckhartsladder is the brute vs the wookie. It really puts their raw, brute (😁) strength in perspective.
Jiralhanae and Cure, we should assume the cov. forces in new mombase were weak troops meant to temporarily fortify and secure locations behind their own frontlines. The ODSTs sent were a special pick team for a certain job by ONI, we can safely assume they would have been perfect candidates for the spartan III program, maybe even SII. However you could play through Halo 3: ODST more realistically on legendary difficulty.
The brutes in Halo 2 were really strong bullet sponges and they barely even had armor on, imagine fighting a banished brute with the really heavy armor they have on, i imagine they would come in a pack of like five and act as a mini-boss like the hunters
@@RoanokeGaming It’s not that their less intelligent they very much just are. But their natural aggression can easily get the better of them. Basically imagine an entire race that naturally has anger issues
If I remember correctly, the Spiker in particular (the main weapon you talked about) uses similar technology to T'au pulse weapons from 40k. The magazine contains a set of ferrous slugs, which are mechanically fed into the "chamber", which is either a magnetic coil or rail, where it's induction heated to near its melting point and then fired, drawing it out into a spike as it's fired. You do biology, I do weapons. Keep up the awesome vids, I'm always watching for your uploads and I'm eager to learn more!
Roanoke Gaming No problem! Thanks for replying! If you ever need info on weapons again, I'll gladly be of any assistance I can be. I'm as interested in weapons and technology in fictional universes as you are the biology of the other species in them!
you should join the discord bro! we have a weapons section where people talk about that stuff, and I eventually want to do lore on the weapons of the covenant so it would be easier to reach you there!
In the second level of Halo 3 a Brute Captain can be heard saying, "Ah, a fresh scent. Spread out, track it down." I believe this supports your hypothesis about theyre hunting by smell.
Brutes: If bears could walk and had a human brain...scary! Now this is how jacked i want Isaac clark to be in the next Dead Space! Kicking Nechromorph Behind!
Jiralhanae are absolute powerhouses. They're already physically tough enough to simply IGNORE standard UNSC gunfire for a few moments, and when they berserk? THEY BECAME EVEN TOUGHER AND MORE PAIN RESISTANT! Firing into a berserking Jiralhanae's face will do little more than piss it off until it finally dies from blood loss.
If the brutes are customer to an atmosphere with several times more oxygen than earth, they should technically become extremely exhausted as soon as the do anything at all in an atmosphere such as ours. chances are that they might even die from suffocation
they should unless they are given some sort of supplement in the covenant army, which is possible, that has a great affinity for pulling oxygen out of the air
Roanoke Gaming Your hypothesis on the dinosaurs is extremely wrong. During the Cretaceous and Jurassic Periods, earth had 10% oxygen. Ice cores from the arctic confirm this. Dinosaurs were monstrous in size because of their. Hollow bones. Think about a chicken which has really small legs and wings for its body. Yes their bones are easy to break but think about a mammal of similar size vs similar weight. Both will have much much more bone mass than a chicken. Hollow bones for dinosaurs is the equivalent of titanium vs steel. Meaning if the mass is the same, there would be less weight and more tensile strength compared to steel/regular bone.
Alex T. You’re believing hollow bones to be weak, when they are far from it. Again, it’s the equivalence of titanium vs steel. Same tensile strength, but very different weights.
Alex T. The actual holes in hollow bones more or less reduce the volume but keep the surface area the same. Surface area can be roughly equated to strength (used to act upon other objects and to hold yourself up), while volume can roughly be equated to dead weight. That’s it you want to look at it from a square-cube law perspective.
Considering they would have evolved on a planet with higher gravity, their height adaptations make sense. A longer lever is more efficient (can generate more force easily), and bones and joints are basically levers. Longer bones would also allow for longer muscles and greater muscle cross-sectional area, further increasing force output and their ability to withstand higher gravity. I think the misconception that higher gravity would produce shorter creatures come from the fact that astronauts become “taller” in space. This is because the very low gravity reduces the compression on the skeletal system, adding a small amount of length to the body. However, this isn’t really an adaptation to this environment so much as it is a consequence of it. If a human were born in space or on a considerably low gravity planet and brought back to earth, they would be too weak to function. Why? Because their bones and muscles wouldn’t have had nearly the amount of stimulation they would have received on earth. Bone and muscle are highly adaptive to force stimuli, and if there basically is no stimulus they wouldn’t have the stimulus to grow to normal sizes. That being said, it would more likely be that such a person would not develop properly at all, not just being shorter and weaker, but dysfunctional. They would most likely have to be exposed to a different level of gravity over a longer period of time for adaptations to be permanent or functional.
well in theory it should, because while a larger lever is better the issue remains it puts more stress on the lever as well, and when working with organic material that's not always a good thing!
Technically, higher gravity CAN, actually, result in a proportionately shorter, stockier build while muscle mass and bone density would proportionately increase. This could, possibly, mean that if a population lived their entire lives in a lower gravity world, they might become even taller with proportionately less muscle mass and bone density. The Expanse explored this realistically and, on my end, I have my own story I'm writing which explores these things. One of my aliens is shorter than the average human by a few inches overall and has denser bones and stronger muscles because their gravity is noticeably higher than Earth's. The difference in gravity isn't so high Humans can't survive, but they will notice it and entire populations of Humans would adapt to it over time, probably resulting in a similar build to the native population. One thing I am definitely planning on using at some point is a confrontation between both races with the Humans finding out that even the females of this race are all physically strong enough to give Human men a run for their money and the alien men being proportionately stronger than their females (because they are physiologically similar to Humans and can almost pass for them with only subtle external differences in features and a few relatively minor differences in anatomy and sensory differences... they are meant to be a related species and neither race knew other existed).
Man I love how the Covenant species all have long, nearly alien names. Great video as always, keep up the good work, been playing Halo since the very first and have mostly loved each moment.
I fucking love Halo! Can’t wait for Halo: Infinite honestly. Hope they bring back the brutes again, well, ig they did since in Halo Wars 2, the brutes did take over and now call themselves “The Banished”.
Looking at how Halo Wars 2 and Halo 5 ended, I suspect that we will meet the Banished, the Covenant, the Forerunners, and the UNSC all on the ARK. 343i has a lot to live up to, but it should be great
They have a lot of potential to make a great game, just depends on how lazy they feel, and if Microsoft doesn’t force them to release a game early again.
@@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 dont forget the flood, and they probably wont just dump the promethians (even though a lot of people probably want them too) but I think if they design them right they can be fun to fight and they shouldn't dump them.
That would make sense why their armour looks like giant slabs of metal - they would require that armour to offset the negatives of operating in low gravity environments. We make armour light sure to our frame only really supporting 100lbs for extended periods (able even that's awful), whereas they would require that weight to function long term without bone or muscle degradation (as it does is in low gravity), which means covering themselves in about half a ton of armour plate would only feel like their "normal" weight to operate under. Which is insane, as the armour could be twice of that or more.
Dinosaurs could only grow that large for 3 reasons: 1. Hollow bones. 2. An avian respiratory system (much more efficient). 3. They didn't produce nearly as much heat as mammals. A mammal would cook itself from the inside if it grew as large as some dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs did not have hollow bones. I mean, we find their fossils right? Bird fossils exist, but far rarer due to them being hollow. Early dinosaurs possessed a secondary respiratory system which would of allowed them to survive a post-Great Dying world. These secondary airsacs would not be lost in evolution and would be repurposed to make themselves fuck-off huge, bigger than anything else could ever safe for the blue whale. As for the schmuck who commented "woolly mammoths", they most likely had seasonal pillosity.
I really enjoyed this video, I never knew this much about the Brutes! Only the Elites, Grunts, Kig-Yar, etc. I learned more about the Mgalekgolo from you and now the Brutes. I really enjoy learning more about them.
3:11 I’ve heard it theorized that humans born and raised on lower gravity planets would be taller than those born on earth. Perhaps the same applies to Jiralhanae born on exoplanets with less gravity than their homeworld.
Ripa is only 8’2 ( 4 inches taller Thel Vadam and other average sized elites) he isn’t actually very tall for species. Tartarus, Atriox and most brutes seem to be about 9ft, with Decimus being bigger likely 10ft.
Maybe their shoulderpads have intravenous O2, a mechanical '3rd lung.' Would be cool, but isn't in game. 2nd theory: Their homeworld had deep valleys and high plateaus, and Jiralhane had to function both in high- and low-oxygen atmospheres to thrive.
Man I can still remember when it was at 13 subs and someone told me to go kill myself for pretending to have content people wanted to watch! really the subs are what make this place fun, but I am very happy people like the content, plus the discord growing and streaming on twitch as been the most fun ive had in a long time
I like how both the elite and the brutes have a scared weapons to them: Elites: Energy Sword Brutes: Gravity hammer The way they past down their weapons is weird well for the elites anyway, them and there "swordsman genes" can they pls explain that lore better. For the brutes its just if any of the younger can beat the old chieftain in combat the hammer is yours.
Elite Swordsmen caste is a combination of nobility, like dukes and counts - as well as purebred animal breeding. Long ago in their history, Sanghelios culture decided to prioritize skill-at-arms in their leaders, even beyond practicality, and across generations. Seems they inherently follow and prioritize skill and finesse, so a class bred for combat is also a class bred for ruling.
Atriox has to be one of the best characters in the Halo Universe. He’s cool as hell and is a million times better than Tartarus. Can’t wait to see more of him. And did you say you’re not yet monetised by RUclips ? So you’re not getting paid for this ?
my favorite thing about the scene with Atriox defying the elites to form the banished is the large amount of diversity among his pack brothers, having them be visually distinct does a lot to make them seem more like people with identities and lives, rather than heartless beasts
Tbh I never cared much for Brutes, but the Banished made me really appreciate them. Atriox is so awesome. I hope they don't kill him off. Maybe have him team up with the humans, like the Elites did.
The Brutes are such violent creatures I doubt they would ever team up with humanity, waaaay too much bad blood. The elites did because atleast they were intelligent enough to put aside their differences
Roanoke Gaming I think there's that clip that shows an elite getting his neck caught in the palm of the brutes hand and the brute literally applys little pressure and he killed the elite, it had me dumbfounded, like dam fam! With one hand!
Perhaps they fill an elephant or mammoth like niche on their home world. Meaning had they been on a more earth-like world it would make them even taller.
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Welp time to pull out the *"bolters"* (from Warhammer 40k) with rounds that are basically mini rocket propelled grenades coated in *"super cyanide"* and powdered with *freeze dried xenomorph acid.*
Dude, imagine if their civil war was started all over a piece of steak. Rh'lot: "That was my steak!" Vheilot: "Get another piece!" Rh'lot: "That was the last one!" Vheiloth: "I already ate it!" Rh'lot: "I'll gut you open to get it! RRAAAAAAAAAAAGGHH!!!" Vheiloth radio communication: "Rh'tol clan leader just attacked Vheiloth clan leader! Defend the clan leader!" Rh'lot commimunication radio: "Rh'tol clan! Rh'tol chieftain is being ambushed by the Vheiloth clan! Attack!" *[Skirmishes among both clans start within their ships, then ships controlled by most of the survivors of either clan start firing their weapons at each other, and it escalates quickly to their whole planet from there]*
as long as he never went insane, I think honestly, with that armor strength, he would fair indefinitely as long as he didnt run across a hivemind, though he still may be able to survive that too
Roanoke Gaming A year late I know but just wanted to point out that Chief survived being tormented by the Gravemind throughout Halo 3 and didn’t give in so I say chances are good.
You should also do the lore and biological discription of the volitiles in dying light. There's something about them that still is a mystery. the fact that they can talk or evolve into smarter apex predators makes them very unique zombies or mutants or whatever they are.
My theory is that the Brutes were originally a near carbon copy of humanity but after their interplanetary war period they experienced a bottleneck event and the ones who survived were mostly comprised of what was previously the most violent of their species.
If I may be so bold as to suggest a second reason for the height: I was curious about if it was necessary to provide enough places to anchor the muscles to the bone so they don't rip off trying to exert their full strength in such high gravity?
it could be, but at what point does the amount of muscle you have become to heavy for other muscle to move it? surely there must be a physical limit for a bipedal animal
Probably around the same point that the square cube law comes into play, but I might be wrong, I'm a law student, my single year of college biology doesn't really qualify me to be an expert or anything. Maybe we need to find what the equivalent square cube law is for muscle? Also, wouldn't it depend on the manner in which muscle is constructed? (if for instance there is an issue of density or of energy efficiency versus terrestrial examples)
Another thought that occurs, is that the bones themselves must be somehow naturally reinforced to survive such gravity, both the chemical composition and the actual chemical structure must be different in some way to both survive the gravity, and the strength those muscles can put out, but the biochemistry for these differences is beyond me. Theoretical papers, anyone?
Xeno mammals that sounds cool 😎 Man I love biology😎 also I assume if a brute and elite thought a brute would win since desisimus was able to snap an elite’s neck with ease in the atriox’s origin story cutscene
Yeah that cutscene is so poorly made regarding Elites and Brutes capabilities and the choreography. It's awful, unless these Brutes are all Blood Stars like Atriox was they would've been butchered. Only skilled Elites who've earned the right to use swords can have them. And Elites are NOT tiny little frail droopy flat faced things with little girl shoulders, they're 8'6, snake headed, muscular, and extremely skilled warriors.
You know after making so many videos of halo and titanfall, I have to ask, how would a spartan do in the Titanfall universe, and a Pilot in the Halo universe?
Looking at the Halo universe you can already see something similar similar to the titans in the halo wars games with the cyclopse and in Halo 4/5 with the Mantis. So I would guess that both the Humans and Covenant have already experience in fighting bipedal mechs. The pilot on his own (with his jumppack of course) would stil be a thread to the more basic units like marines, grunts or jackals, but I think against Elites or Spartans he would also have a hard time, because of the technological advancement of the covenant and the augmentations and armor of the Spartan. A Spartan in the Titanfall universe on the other hand would probably do fine as long as he isn't on an open field against multiple titans. His Speed and reflexes are superior to that of a Pilot as far as I know and his armor can handle a few hits too. The only problem I see for a Spartan is when he has to fight multiple titans without much cover, because he can only really outclass them when he is near them and take advantage of the relative lack of speed of the titans compared to him, and the combined fire power titans have. I would stil love to see them both fight tho :D
Open question, who would win a Brute from Halo or a Krogan from Mass Effect? Like with an average of the species with/without weapons to the best possible level, like Atriox and Wrex
I think an evolutionary explanation for their height could be tall flora on their home world Doi-sac. Tall grass and trees that don't have lower hanging branches may have benefited taller jiralhanae over shorter ones, increasing the average height of the gene pool.
It make me intrigued. In the Halo lore, Human at one time in the long past became the second most power race. How is that possible? There are like probably the weakest specie in comparison to other halo species. I wonder if human had Napoleon syndrome because of their small stature. There are like midget compared to elite or even forerunner.
Ancient humans used to be taller and stronger. When humanity was reseeded on Earth by the forerunners, they made us shorter, weaker and less intelligent
Imagine how strong Dutch has to be though, he knocked the hell out of that brute chieftain after Mickey tackled it, even Mickey seemed to hit it pretty hard and make it take a step back. Even with that knife in him it would seem like he’d be able to still be stronger than them but Dutch dropped him like a sack of potatoes
Thanos vs the flood, thanos has all but two infinity stones which he has to get from a flood planet, can thanos and his army be able to take the infinity stones, or would the flood overwhelm them. Thanos doesn't have the soul and time stone.
Soviet who Cuts if he sends his army first he has time to get the other stones, but if thanos goes in by himself he is fucked, especially if he doesn't know about the flood.
@@RoanokeGaming if its pre ring fireing, the flood can bend reality too by use of precursor neuro physics since they have planets worth of key minds with inconceivable processing power.
You know what doesn't get enough credit? The brutes' glow up between Halo 2 and 3. They really cleaned up man. They went from gorillas to shaven, clean cut, fresh armor, etc. Got their act together I respect it.
I don't know man they left a pretty big impression on halo wars 2 the cinematic cut scenes.I would bet them coming back in halo infinity meaning if they don't I will be pretty upset and dislike anything halo infinity.Also Isn't that the name of the space ship in halo 5 like the fuck...............
An interesting thing about gravity and spaceflight is that a higher gravity results in an exponentially higher fuel requirement. According to NASA, if Earth had been 50% larger it would have been physically impossible for us to build a rocket capable of achieving escape velocity. As in not only would people never get to go to space, but there'd be no satellites or space-telescopes either. On a related note, it's theorized that the larger super-Earths may be more likely to produce life than planets our size. So, it's actually possible that most aliens never leave their planet.
Large cool looking, brutal, incredibly muscular and physically dominating tall bipedal sentient races are always a win for me both in Sci-Fi and fantasy
Roanoke Gaming oh I wanted quote this. Are intelligent to pliot vehicles. Plays halo 3 brute slams chopper into other chopper and they both die. Other time brute boosts off a cliff yes very intelligent lol.
It’s safe to assume that a brute’s muscle would atrophy if they spend a long time away from their home world. Same if humans spent a long time on the moon.
I can’t help but feel like most people portal the Brutes as well... Brutes. Savages who are too aggressive and not smart enough to have been able to get to where they were out without help. This is a reminder that the Brutes were also cunning and strong as a species, and that they could build advanced, sophisticated technologies and battle strategies without outside influences. Thank you for reminding us that the Jirlahane are just as powerful/deadly as the Sangheili.
There's just something about the brutes that I really like but can't exactly pinpoint, like the other Covenant species are much more unique in biology, but I just like the brutes for some reason.
3:35 The thing also is that our height often comes from the energy and proper eating during our growing phase. If they are extremely aggressive and muscular - it means they can/have to eat better, at the same time getting better workout just living - further allowing for better build and more stable foundation. Also we aren't the best evolved species when it comes to breathing, eating and blood - birds are. So if they evolved much better systems, they could easily sustain the bigger height. It could also just be based on basic evolution. If you are bigger - it's easier to unlive stuff and survive + a bigger Brute can potentially be considered more attractive, leading to their selective evolution where larger species were the ones who bred. And similar to other big mammals (like hippos, gorillas and so and so) they could also work on alpha-beta dynamics. Where only the biggest and strongest alpha can reproduce (or could in the past).
I don't like to think of them as tall monkeys or tall bears, but rather as short carnivorous mammoths with tusk so tiny you'd think they were just teeth.
If brutes are that powerful, I even have more respects for elites. The fact that they can competitively fight against monsters is somewhat mind-bobbling.
Elites are way more intelligent than the Brutes and far superior tacticians. As Rtas Vadum said during the battle of Installation 00 when he was told the Brute fleet outnumbered them 3:1 "Then it is an even fight."
ruclips.net/video/PfN3KlF6yp8/видео.html *Eckhartsladder* did a match up of *Brute vs Krogan* . Very interesting video. A channel you might also like
Boris Johnson On job I appreciate the gesture. But I saw it already. My favorite brute centered video done by eckhartsladder is the brute vs the wookie. It really puts their raw, brute (😁) strength in perspective.
And to think the flood are even worse than that.
I'd like to see Ripa Moremeee compared to a brute
Nothing like a spartan laser won’t fix
or well place rocket!
Or just stick 'em.
Jiralhanae and Cure i don’t know, the rookie from halo: odst and his squad seemed to manage just fine.
Jiralhanae and Cure, we should assume the cov. forces in new mombase were weak troops meant to temporarily fortify and secure locations behind their own frontlines. The ODSTs sent were a special pick team for a certain job by ONI, we can safely assume they would have been perfect candidates for the spartan III program, maybe even SII. However you could play through Halo 3: ODST more realistically on legendary difficulty.
@@philrob8994 they actually did end up in the Spartan 4 program
The brutes in Halo 2 were really strong bullet sponges and they barely even had armor on, imagine fighting a banished brute with the really heavy armor they have on, i imagine they would come in a pack of like five and act as a mini-boss like the hunters
Welllllll look who decided to show up after ignoring my friend request on Discord! lol
oh shit I didn't see it, ive accepted it now
aaaaayyyeeeee welcome to the discord fam
Roanoke Gaming what game were you playing that allows you to set up the halo brutes and stuff
That is Theatre mode broseph, I play through then go and capture footage from there!
Ok now i want to see a Brute fist fight a Librarian from metro
that would be a pretty cool fight. My money is on brute though. A librarian is probably at max 800 pounds. A brute can be almost double that
I want to see a Brute fist fight an Adeptus Astartes (Warhammer40K Space Marine).
@@valtersplume3726 yes
@@valtersplume3726 armored or unarmored?
@@mousumisadhukhan8536 both armoured.
I wonder if jackals taste like chicken
I always imagined they were gamey like duck
Tell me why I thought you said children
Eric W bruh me too man
@@ericw5529 I read children too
“Don’t ask me how I know this but I heard the little ones (grunts) tasted like lobsters.” -Some Army trooper or Marine in Reach.
The brutes are one of my favorite members from the covenant. They seem like the only ones vicious enough to be on par with elites and Spartans
agreed, while not THE most intelligent, they are definitely still a force to be reckoned with!
@@RoanokeGaming It’s not that their less intelligent they very much just are. But their natural aggression can easily get the better of them. Basically imagine an entire race that naturally has anger issues
If I remember correctly, the Spiker in particular (the main weapon you talked about) uses similar technology to T'au pulse weapons from 40k. The magazine contains a set of ferrous slugs, which are mechanically fed into the "chamber", which is either a magnetic coil or rail, where it's induction heated to near its melting point and then fired, drawing it out into a spike as it's fired.
You do biology, I do weapons. Keep up the awesome vids, I'm always watching for your uploads and I'm eager to learn more!
That would make sense to me actually, because after they fire they are red hot! thanks for the info man!
Roanoke Gaming No problem! Thanks for replying! If you ever need info on weapons again, I'll gladly be of any assistance I can be. I'm as interested in weapons and technology in fictional universes as you are the biology of the other species in them!
you should join the discord bro! we have a weapons section where people talk about that stuff, and I eventually want to do lore on the weapons of the covenant so it would be easier to reach you there!
Roanoke Gaming I just did! Though, I must warn you I don't use it often...I assume the gun nut section?
@Eric Pope I mean it is a fantasy universe
In the second level of Halo 3 a Brute Captain can be heard saying, "Ah, a fresh scent. Spread out, track it down." I believe this supports your hypothesis about theyre hunting by smell.
You did say Doi-sac correctly
YES! Thank god haha
Homo-Jiralhanae = SPARTA
Doisac. Doiiiiiisac. Doisac. They could have named it anything else. But they named it Doisac.
Elite: WORT WORT WORT
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Roanoke Gaming 1:42 now say this one with me. Ma- nga- lek- go- lo. Mgalekgolo. Not mega lekgolo.
Ah, nothing like waking up to a lore video. I guess you could say I'm living the life.
glad you like the lore bro!
Brutes: If bears could walk and had a human brain...scary!
Now this is how jacked i want Isaac clark to be in the next Dead Space! Kicking Nechromorph Behind!
well maybe a neanderthal brain!
A very intelligent and angry Neaderthal
Jiralhanae are absolute powerhouses. They're already physically tough enough to simply IGNORE standard UNSC gunfire for a few moments, and when they berserk?
THEY BECAME EVEN TOUGHER AND MORE PAIN RESISTANT!
Firing into a berserking Jiralhanae's face will do little more than piss it off until it finally dies from blood loss.
If the brutes are customer to an atmosphere with several times more oxygen than earth, they should technically become extremely exhausted as soon as the do anything at all in an atmosphere such as ours. chances are that they might even die from suffocation
they should unless they are given some sort of supplement in the covenant army, which is possible, that has a great affinity for pulling oxygen out of the air
Roanoke Gaming Your hypothesis on the dinosaurs is extremely wrong. During the Cretaceous and Jurassic Periods, earth had 10% oxygen. Ice cores from the arctic confirm this. Dinosaurs were monstrous in size because of their. Hollow bones. Think about a chicken which has really small legs and wings for its body. Yes their bones are easy to break but think about a mammal of similar size vs similar weight.
Both will have much much more bone mass than a chicken.
Hollow bones for dinosaurs is the equivalent of titanium vs steel. Meaning if the mass is the same, there would be less weight and more tensile strength compared to steel/regular bone.
Caleb Reynolds Not Sauropods, you got to be kidding...no way animal can support themselves with that size and bone density
Alex T. You’re believing hollow bones to be weak, when they are far from it.
Again, it’s the equivalence of titanium vs steel. Same tensile strength, but very different weights.
Alex T. The actual holes in hollow bones more or less reduce the volume but keep the surface area the same.
Surface area can be roughly equated to strength (used to act upon other objects and to hold yourself up), while volume can roughly be equated to dead weight.
That’s it you want to look at it from a square-cube law perspective.
Considering they would have evolved on a planet with higher gravity, their height adaptations make sense. A longer lever is more efficient (can generate more force easily), and bones and joints are basically levers. Longer bones would also allow for longer muscles and greater muscle cross-sectional area, further increasing force output and their ability to withstand higher gravity.
I think the misconception that higher gravity would produce shorter creatures come from the fact that astronauts become “taller” in space. This is because the very low gravity reduces the compression on the skeletal system, adding a small amount of length to the body.
However, this isn’t really an adaptation to this environment so much as it is a consequence of it. If a human were born in space or on a considerably low gravity planet and brought back to earth, they would be too weak to function. Why? Because their bones and muscles wouldn’t have had nearly the amount of stimulation they would have received on earth.
Bone and muscle are highly adaptive to force stimuli, and if there basically is no stimulus they wouldn’t have the stimulus to grow to normal sizes. That being said, it would more likely be that such a person would not develop properly at all, not just being shorter and weaker, but dysfunctional. They would most likely have to be exposed to a different level of gravity over a longer period of time for adaptations to be permanent or functional.
well in theory it should, because while a larger lever is better the issue remains it puts more stress on the lever as well, and when working with organic material that's not always a good thing!
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Technically, higher gravity CAN, actually, result in a proportionately shorter, stockier build while muscle mass and bone density would proportionately increase. This could, possibly, mean that if a population lived their entire lives in a lower gravity world, they might become even taller with proportionately less muscle mass and bone density. The Expanse explored this realistically and, on my end, I have my own story I'm writing which explores these things.
One of my aliens is shorter than the average human by a few inches overall and has denser bones and stronger muscles because their gravity is noticeably higher than Earth's. The difference in gravity isn't so high Humans can't survive, but they will notice it and entire populations of Humans would adapt to it over time, probably resulting in a similar build to the native population. One thing I am definitely planning on using at some point is a confrontation between both races with the Humans finding out that even the females of this race are all physically strong enough to give Human men a run for their money and the alien men being proportionately stronger than their females (because they are physiologically similar to Humans and can almost pass for them with only subtle external differences in features and a few relatively minor differences in anatomy and sensory differences... they are meant to be a related species and neither race knew other existed).
Brutes are in every sense of the word beasts
Exactly!
Man I love how the Covenant species all have long, nearly alien names.
Great video as always, keep up the good work, been playing Halo since the very first and have mostly loved each moment.
It does make them sound cool! then there is "Human" haha
Bro I love your morphology series!
ayyyeee glad you like them bro!
I remember there being an animation where a brute rips a marine's arm or leg with no effort. I wonder why the devs didn't implement that.
While rated mature, I don't think they wanted a gears of war game on their hands haha
Yeah. Don’t wanna look like you’re copying gears of war yknow
Problems with rigging skeletons. The Drone itself has a pretty intensive explosion rig.
Gore
This was a very well put together video and was great to watch. Keep up the great work
Thanks for the compliment bro! I am glad you enjoyed it!
The Brute that grabbed the halo relic in the series; Looked considerably taller than 9 feet tall.
I fucking love Halo! Can’t wait for Halo: Infinite honestly. Hope they bring back the brutes again, well, ig they did since in Halo Wars 2, the brutes did take over and now call themselves “The Banished”.
Looking at how Halo Wars 2 and Halo 5 ended, I suspect that we will meet the Banished, the Covenant, the Forerunners, and the UNSC all on the ARK. 343i has a lot to live up to, but it should be great
They have a lot of potential to make a great game, just depends on how lazy they feel, and if Microsoft doesn’t force them to release a game early again.
@@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 dont forget the flood, and they probably wont just dump the promethians (even though a lot of people probably want them too) but I think if they design them right they can be fun to fight and they shouldn't dump them.
That would make sense why their armour looks like giant slabs of metal - they would require that armour to offset the negatives of operating in low gravity environments. We make armour light sure to our frame only really supporting 100lbs for extended periods (able even that's awful), whereas they would require that weight to function long term without bone or muscle degradation (as it does is in low gravity), which means covering themselves in about half a ton of armour plate would only feel like their "normal" weight to operate under. Which is insane, as the armour could be twice of that or more.
Necromorphs vs flood that's very intresting seeing that they can only be defeated one way well for a bit
Agreed!
I wanna play as a Brute.
Master chief: close enough haha
You're right :D
Same I've been wanting it for years now. Imagine a new invasion mode with playable Brutes!
Wrd me to
Dinosaurs could only grow that large for 3 reasons:
1. Hollow bones.
2. An avian respiratory system (much more efficient).
3. They didn't produce nearly as much heat as mammals. A mammal would cook itself from the inside if it grew as large as some dinosaurs.
Chris Hakala
Wooly (Wully?) Mammoth.
You have impressive intelligence :)
Dinosaurs did not have hollow bones. I mean, we find their fossils right? Bird fossils exist, but far rarer due to them being hollow.
Early dinosaurs possessed a secondary respiratory system which would of allowed them to survive a post-Great Dying world. These secondary airsacs would not be lost in evolution and would be repurposed to make themselves fuck-off huge, bigger than anything else could ever safe for the blue whale.
As for the schmuck who commented "woolly mammoths", they most likely had seasonal pillosity.
@@bundleoffuck2986 Lived in an ice age.
Rogue Pylon Ah right. I’m a fucking idiot.
the brute, an elite, a spartan, a predator and a xenomorph all go to a gym - i'd like to see such a comic
How is this channel not at 1mil yet?
I hope to be there one day! that is a serious goal haha but I am glad you like the content man!
Matthew Wilkerson
Because he’s doing a lot of hypothesizing without actually doing much research.
I.e he’s spreading misinformation and pseudoscience.
I really enjoyed this video, I never knew this much about the Brutes! Only the Elites, Grunts, Kig-Yar, etc. I learned more about the Mgalekgolo from you and now the Brutes. I really enjoy learning more about them.
I am glad you liked hearing about them bro!
At this rate you'll be at 100k in no time
I sure hopeso! after my Collab with Hidden Xperia we will see where I sit haha
+the meme archive
Agreed, and he deserves it.
thanks bro!
3:11 I’ve heard it theorized that humans born and raised on lower gravity planets would be taller than those born on earth. Perhaps the same applies to Jiralhanae born on exoplanets with less gravity than their homeworld.
Hands down my favorite Halo faction I just hope one day we can get playable Brutes, maybe in a new invasion mode or reverse Firefight. Great video.
The arbiter from Halo Wars has to be as big as a brute right? Ripa Moramee is huge after all.
UndeadStorm Blade Well, since Ripa is essentially Tychus he probably is and he's also probably a convict in armor.
UndeadStorm Blade that dude was a fucking tank
Some Elites have been known to be as tall as brutes! but its more an exception rather than the rule
Ripa is only 8’2 ( 4 inches taller Thel Vadam and other average sized elites) he isn’t actually very tall for species. Tartarus, Atriox and most brutes seem to be about 9ft, with Decimus being bigger likely 10ft.
MrReyno Tanks he'd still stomp any brute dumb enough to get in his way
If they have a radically higher O2 level in their atmosphere, wouldn’t that present significant problems breathing elsewhere?
Maybe their shoulderpads have intravenous O2, a mechanical '3rd lung.' Would be cool, but isn't in game.
2nd theory: Their homeworld had deep valleys and high plateaus, and Jiralhane had to function both in high- and low-oxygen atmospheres to thrive.
Great video man its was so cool to learn about the brutes
glad you liked it bro!
Roanoke could you do a series on high level elite or other covenant commanders like you did with gears of war just a suggestion
I may be able to in the future!
Man i remember when this channel was at something like 200 subs now it's grown into one of my favorite communities out there
Man I can still remember when it was at 13 subs and someone told me to go kill myself for pretending to have content people wanted to watch! really the subs are what make this place fun, but I am very happy people like the content, plus the discord growing and streaming on twitch as been the most fun ive had in a long time
Roanoke Gaming alien isolation steam or bust
But in all seriousness thanks for all the cool content
The brute's are my favorite!
Roanoke Gaming: Atriox
Subtitles: A Tree wax🗿
I like how both the elite and the brutes have a scared weapons to them:
Elites: Energy Sword
Brutes: Gravity hammer
The way they past down their weapons is weird well for the elites anyway, them and there "swordsman genes" can they pls explain that lore better. For the brutes its just if any of the younger can beat the old chieftain in combat the hammer is yours.
Elite Swordsmen caste is a combination of nobility, like dukes and counts - as well as purebred animal breeding.
Long ago in their history, Sanghelios culture decided to prioritize skill-at-arms in their leaders, even beyond practicality, and across generations.
Seems they inherently follow and prioritize skill and finesse, so a class bred for combat is also a class bred for ruling.
Moral of the story, stopping being hostile to your own species
Atriox has to be one of the best characters in the Halo Universe. He’s cool as hell and is a million times better than Tartarus. Can’t wait to see more of him. And did you say you’re not yet monetised by RUclips ? So you’re not getting paid for this ?
He is way better than tartarus! And correct! RUclips hasn't given me an answer so all the work is for free Haha
Atriox and Tartarus are the best ever and the best characters
They basically elevated him to being the Thanos of Halo now
@@JohnPeacekeeper except now he’s dead in infinite
@@takeiteasydude616 you didnt see the post credits did you?
Oh another great video my friend
Thanks bro! Glad you liked it!
You should do a video on the modifications of agent 47
my favorite thing about the scene with Atriox defying the elites to form the banished is the large amount of diversity among his pack brothers, having them be visually distinct does a lot to make them seem more like people with identities and lives, rather than heartless beasts
it also shows how far everything has come when one species doesn't look like only three of them exist haah
Do some STALKER morphology!!!
need to play STALKER first though!
Spartans are UNSC Brutes
excellent video bruv
Thanks man! glad you liked it!
It would be totally epic if the Spartans encounter easygoing Jiralhanae
Another Great video! Good job Roan!
Thanks bro!
Tbh I never cared much for Brutes, but the Banished made me really appreciate them. Atriox is so awesome. I hope they don't kill him off. Maybe have him team up with the humans, like the Elites did.
The Brutes are such violent creatures I doubt they would ever team up with humanity, waaaay too much bad blood. The elites did because atleast they were intelligent enough to put aside their differences
@@RoanokeGaming I understand, I just don't want Atriox to die. I felt like shit killing Decimus. Especially after reading the comics.
"Pushed back to their own planet"
Ohhhhh boy... There's a reason these guys are the main threats again.
That's the only thing I like about the brutes is there savage strength.
Ironically that's what humans hate in the halo universe haha
Roanoke Gaming I think there's that clip that shows an elite getting his neck caught in the palm of the brutes hand and the brute literally applys little pressure and he killed the elite, it had me dumbfounded, like dam fam! With one hand!
Brutes really are brutes! massively powerful creatures
Soviet who Cuts Most likely.
The funniest thing is that tall creatures should develop at low gravity places. High gravity means smaller size.
Perhaps they fill an elephant or mammoth like niche on their home world. Meaning had they been on a more earth-like world it would make them even taller.
The footage at 9:02 is actually from the EVE Online inferno trailer. Just a heads up.
it is! But it looked cool and kind of made the point so I figured why not lol
Aight
great stuff! The brutes in Halo 3 are my favorite rendition
Hey Roanoke! I am your newest resident, Richard
Hey bro! Thanks for supporting! I havent forgotten about your name, I just recorded the audio previous haha
Yea that’s what I thought
next video should be out in a couple of days and you shall be there!
Roanoke Gaming I got the discord, but it says it is expired. What should I do?
nvm
Your videos were recommended to me and I was pleasantly surprised. I feel you may become another RUclips Titan in time. Basically... FANTASTIC VIDEO, YOUR CHANNEL IS AWESOME, SUBSCRIBED!!!
Thanks fro the compliments bro! I hope one day to be up there with the greats haha thanks for the sub man!
So imagine brute spartan's dear god that would be a nightmare inducing sight
Welp time to pull out the *"bolters"* (from Warhammer 40k) with rounds that are basically mini rocket propelled grenades coated in *"super cyanide"* and powdered with *freeze dried xenomorph acid.*
Groovy stuff my man
NUMBER 15 BURGER KING FOOT LETTUCE
THE LAST THING YOU WOULD WANT ON YOUR BURGER KING BURGER IS SOMEONES FOOT LETTUCE BUT THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE WHAT YOU GET
Dude, imagine if their civil war was started all over a piece of steak.
Rh'lot: "That was my steak!"
Vheilot: "Get another piece!"
Rh'lot: "That was the last one!"
Vheiloth: "I already ate it!"
Rh'lot: "I'll gut you open to get it! RRAAAAAAAAAAAGGHH!!!"
Vheiloth radio communication: "Rh'tol clan leader just attacked Vheiloth clan leader! Defend the clan leader!"
Rh'lot commimunication radio: "Rh'tol clan! Rh'tol chieftain is being ambushed by the Vheiloth clan! Attack!"
*[Skirmishes among both clans start within their ships, then ships controlled by most of the survivors of either clan start firing their weapons at each other, and it escalates quickly to their whole planet from there]*
Roanoaoke how long do you think master cheif will survive against the necromorphs
as long as he never went insane, I think honestly, with that armor strength, he would fair indefinitely as long as he didnt run across a hivemind, though he still may be able to survive that too
Roanoke Gaming A year late I know but just wanted to point out that Chief survived being tormented by the Gravemind throughout Halo 3 and didn’t give in so I say chances are good.
You should also do the lore and biological discription of the volitiles in dying light. There's something about them that still is a mystery. the fact that they can talk or evolve into smarter apex predators makes them very unique zombies or mutants or whatever they are.
Try the Krogan or the reapers from mass effect games
Reshiramkirb 2 krogan v brute. I would pay to see that
Jacob Davis well your in luck eckhartsladder made a video on it
Reshiramkirb 2 I want all the mass effect species done.
Reshiramkirb 2 thz for letting me know
My theory is that the Brutes were originally a near carbon copy of humanity but after their interplanetary war period they experienced a bottleneck event and the ones who survived were mostly comprised of what was previously the most violent of their species.
If I may be so bold as to suggest a second reason for the height: I was curious about if it was necessary to provide enough places to anchor the muscles to the bone so they don't rip off trying to exert their full strength in such high gravity?
it could be, but at what point does the amount of muscle you have become to heavy for other muscle to move it? surely there must be a physical limit for a bipedal animal
Probably around the same point that the square cube law comes into play, but I might be wrong, I'm a law student, my single year of college biology doesn't really qualify me to be an expert or anything. Maybe we need to find what the equivalent square cube law is for muscle?
Also, wouldn't it depend on the manner in which muscle is constructed? (if for instance there is an issue of density or of energy efficiency versus terrestrial examples)
Another thought that occurs, is that the bones themselves must be somehow naturally reinforced to survive such gravity, both the chemical composition and the actual chemical structure must be different in some way to both survive the gravity, and the strength those muscles can put out, but the biochemistry for these differences is beyond me.
Theoretical papers, anyone?
4:16 that was filmed in long beach
Theres a chance of the banished being in halo infinit since halo infinit takes place a year after halo wars 2
It would be cool to see them show up!
Back at it again with that quality content
Thanks bro! Glad you liked it!
You always make amazing videos
Xeno mammals that sounds cool 😎 Man I love biology😎 also I assume if a brute and elite thought a brute would win since desisimus was able to snap an elite’s neck with ease in the atriox’s origin story cutscene
I like the idea of that name as well! maybe one day we will find some!
Roanoke Gaming let’s hope so!!!
Yeah that cutscene is so poorly made regarding Elites and Brutes capabilities and the choreography. It's awful, unless these Brutes are all Blood Stars like Atriox was they would've been butchered. Only skilled Elites who've earned the right to use swords can have them. And Elites are NOT tiny little frail droopy flat faced things with little girl shoulders, they're 8'6, snake headed, muscular, and extremely skilled warriors.
The only thing in Halo scarier than the Brutes, are the Flood. The literal living dead.
You know after making so many videos of halo and titanfall, I have to ask, how would a spartan do in the Titanfall universe, and a Pilot in the Halo universe?
A Spartan would brutalize in the titanfall universe. A pilot would fair a little better than your average ODST in the Halo Universe
Looking at the Halo universe you can already see something similar similar to the titans in the halo wars games with the cyclopse and in Halo 4/5 with the Mantis. So I would guess that both the Humans and Covenant have already experience in fighting bipedal mechs. The pilot on his own (with his jumppack of course) would stil be a thread to the more basic units like marines, grunts or jackals, but I think against Elites or Spartans he would also have a hard time, because of the technological advancement of the covenant and the augmentations and armor of the Spartan.
A Spartan in the Titanfall universe on the other hand would probably do fine as long as he isn't on an open field against multiple titans. His Speed and reflexes are superior to that of a Pilot as far as I know and his armor can handle a few hits too. The only problem I see for a Spartan is when he has to fight multiple titans without much cover, because he can only really outclass them when he is near them and take advantage of the relative lack of speed of the titans compared to him, and the combined fire power titans have.
I would stil love to see them both fight tho :D
Awesome video man! Keep it up
Thanks bro! Glad you liked it!
Open question, who would win a Brute from Halo or a Krogan from Mass Effect? Like with an average of the species with/without weapons to the best possible level, like Atriox and Wrex
Brute IMO. Krogans are strong but stand roughly the height of Humans, maybe a little taller, brute would tower and beat the crap out of a krogan
Brute
Didn't Eckhart's Ladder make a video on this?
Brute, no question
Boisegang yes, that's kinda why I brought it here. I like seeing others people's responses
I think an evolutionary explanation for their height could be tall flora on their home world Doi-sac. Tall grass and trees that don't have lower hanging branches may have benefited taller jiralhanae over shorter ones, increasing the average height of the gene pool.
It make me intrigued. In the Halo lore, Human at one time in the long past became the second most power race. How is that possible? There are like probably the weakest specie in comparison to other halo species. I wonder if human had Napoleon syndrome because of their small stature. There are like midget compared to elite or even forerunner.
Size of a creature isn't everything. Ingenuity and intelligence is what is key. Superior thinking has always overwhelmed superior force.
True, but elite are smart too.
Ancient humans used to be taller and stronger. When humanity was reseeded on Earth by the forerunners, they made us shorter, weaker and less intelligent
Curse those forerunner.
Just how tall? Maybe men are about 7 to 8ft and women 6 to 7ft?
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Thanks for the compliment man! Glad you like the channel!
i mean in the banished, some of those brutes are super smart
They are more of an exception then the rule
Imagine how strong Dutch has to be though, he knocked the hell out of that brute chieftain after Mickey tackled it, even Mickey seemed to hit it pretty hard and make it take a step back. Even with that knife in him it would seem like he’d be able to still be stronger than them but Dutch dropped him like a sack of potatoes
Thanos vs the flood, thanos has all but two infinity stones which he has to get from a flood planet, can thanos and his army be able to take the infinity stones, or would the flood overwhelm them. Thanos doesn't have the soul and time stone.
Thanos FTW bro...only because he can bend reality
Roanoke Gaming he would be able to reality warp the entire flood from the planet? Doesn't he need the soul stone to do that shit. 🤣🤣🤣
Okay a video of thanos needing 3 infinity stones then to make it more fair. 🤣🤣🤣
Soviet who Cuts if he sends his army first he has time to get the other stones, but if thanos goes in by himself he is fucked, especially if he doesn't know about the flood.
@@RoanokeGaming if its pre ring fireing, the flood can bend reality too by use of precursor neuro physics since they have planets worth of key minds with inconceivable processing power.
I love your ideos!
It is like those animals are here living within our world we studied them already completely. love this content
Glad you are enjoying them bro!
I just beat halo ce today.
AAAYYYEEEEE did ya like it?
Roanoke Gaming hell yes!
You know what doesn't get enough credit? The brutes' glow up between Halo 2 and 3. They really cleaned up man. They went from gorillas to shaven, clean cut, fresh armor, etc. Got their act together I respect it.
and as such became a much more formidable enemy!
I don't know man they left a pretty big impression on halo wars 2 the cinematic cut scenes.I would bet them coming back in halo infinity meaning if they don't I will be pretty upset and dislike anything halo infinity.Also Isn't that the name of the space ship in halo 5 like the fuck...............
It will be interesting to see!
Captain of the Bleeding Roses The ship is called Infinity. But the game is called Halo: Infinite
I always liked the brutes in the games,always were cool enemies
And if you know Korean, Jiralhanae takes on a different meaning than just a name
BB-63 I know, just have to read some comment.
BB-63 The translation really does fit, though
𝕃𝔸ℤ𝔼ℝ what does it mean
@@Anomaly-uz9pr it means 'doing bullshit' in korean, as if someone goes crazy and smash things all over the place.
Nice vid bro i love the brutes🔥💯
I feel greatly insulted that you called my people "animals"
well....have you considered not acting like animals?
Roanoke Gaming ok that is just racist. So what we kill things in the most savage ways possible? Its in our culture
Cruz The Brute lol
@@cruzthesasquatch your culture sucks
Ours is superior
@@brandishaccount5439 you
I like you
An interesting thing about gravity and spaceflight is that a higher gravity results in an exponentially higher fuel requirement. According to NASA, if Earth had been 50% larger it would have been physically impossible for us to build a rocket capable of achieving escape velocity. As in not only would people never get to go to space, but there'd be no satellites or space-telescopes either.
On a related note, it's theorized that the larger super-Earths may be more likely to produce life than planets our size. So, it's actually possible that most aliens never leave their planet.
Please do the elites
You're in luck! I have already covered the elites in a previous video!
Large cool looking, brutal, incredibly muscular and physically dominating tall bipedal sentient races are always a win for me both in Sci-Fi and fantasy
We still waiting for that 2 hour of talking video
WAIT WHICH ONE NOW??
Roanoke Gaming ANY !
Brute shot aka The Meta's weapon or as Donut puts it "a kickass broom"
They can't make contractions due to their translation devices.
interesting!
Destroy All Humans!
Roanoke Gaming oh I wanted quote this. Are intelligent to pliot vehicles. Plays halo 3 brute slams chopper into other chopper and they both die. Other time brute boosts off a cliff yes very intelligent lol.
It’s safe to assume that a brute’s muscle would atrophy if they spend a long time away from their home world. Same if humans spent a long time on the moon.
Yup that would happen eventually, of course maybe they have ships that replicate the gravity of their homeworld
Good video as always really deep analysis.
Glad you liked it bro!
some how I found this gem of a channel in "trending," god works in mysterious ways.
Glad you liked the channel bro! RUclips added me to trending to promote me as "creator on the rise" I am very lucky to have landed that spot!
I can’t help but feel like most people portal the Brutes as well... Brutes. Savages who are too aggressive and not smart enough to have been able to get to where they were out without help. This is a reminder that the Brutes were also cunning and strong as a species, and that they could build advanced, sophisticated technologies and battle strategies without outside influences. Thank you for reminding us that the Jirlahane are just as powerful/deadly as the Sangheili.
Brute punches chief, chief flys backwards, chief immediately counter punches and sends brute to oblivion.
There's just something about the brutes that I really like but can't exactly pinpoint, like the other Covenant species are much more unique in biology, but I just like the brutes for some reason.
You are fighting a space bear
3:35 The thing also is that our height often comes from the energy and proper eating during our growing phase. If they are extremely aggressive and muscular - it means they can/have to eat better, at the same time getting better workout just living - further allowing for better build and more stable foundation.
Also we aren't the best evolved species when it comes to breathing, eating and blood - birds are. So if they evolved much better systems, they could easily sustain the bigger height.
It could also just be based on basic evolution. If you are bigger - it's easier to unlive stuff and survive + a bigger Brute can potentially be considered more attractive, leading to their selective evolution where larger species were the ones who bred. And similar to other big mammals (like hippos, gorillas and so and so) they could also work on alpha-beta dynamics. Where only the biggest and strongest alpha can reproduce (or could in the past).
I don't like to think of them as tall monkeys or tall bears, but rather as short carnivorous mammoths with tusk so tiny you'd think they were just teeth.