Oh man. This brings me back. Had one of these original Blackfoots from the early 90’s when I was in junior high. Almost everything was a weak point but I had a lot of fun trying to upgrade. It was fine for what it was designed for, Low speed cruising around. Of course I was never satisfied with that so put in a more powerful motor and that is when every weak link on that truck came to light. I did learn a lot about mechanics from that truck but it was one problem after another. Mine was super fast and it was very unstable at those speeds and would usually wind up flipping it over and rolling it.
Hi there. I didn't have one of these first time around but I did have the first Holiday Buggy in about 1982 and I think that everything on that was a weak point! Didn't stop me trying to make it quicker and stronger as you did with your Blackfoot. Now that I have a fair few RC's I can leave the Blackfoot as a gentle runner and leave some of the others to take the high speed abuse. Many thanks for sharing your memories. Always interesting to hear what other enthusiasts got up to back in the day :-)
I owned 3 Blackfoots as a Teen. After about my 15th trip to the Hobby Shop in 1990, to buy more dogbones, the owner and I sat down and thumbed through pages of parts lists to find a solution... We found a complete Differential from "Robinson Racing RC" made specifically for the Blackfoot/Frog. It was very expensive at $90, but It was Bulletproof. I ran a Trinity 14turn motor and thrashed through atleast 5 sets of tires, but never had a single failure from the rearend ever again. Unfortunately, I don't believe Robinson makes them anymore.
Hi there. That does sound like a great upgrade and a shame it's not made anymore. The Ampro diff seems good so far. It's great that there is a new generation of upgrade spares for these re-release kits. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback. Very much appreciated 😁
Hi Pete, another great video right here, mate! Oh yes, as you know I have the original Monster Beetle on this chassis and have had all the same problems as you! Funnily enough, I did exactly the same and limited the rear suspension travel to stop the dogbones flying out. I have a 21T brushed Firebolt motor and it's fast enough for me, but interestingly I'm still running the original 35 year old diff! Never had a problem in all these years! I have fitted the Brat drivecups and dogbones, though. My body mounts disintegrated and I made my own custom alloy body mounts, they bend but don't break! Great kits, but with their drawbacks as you have thoroughly demonstrated. Great advice here for all Blackfoot and ORV fans. Hope all is going well, take care, mate! :))
Hiya matey. Yeah it's odd that everyone seems to have had the thing with the drive shafts coming out and yet this is how Tamiya sells it. You'd think that they might have done something about it. I was thinking about your one with all those extra metal bits. I didn't want to go to that extent with mine if I could help it. I did look for upgraded body posts but nobody seems to make them. Anyway it has provided me with plenty of tinker time this one. Hope you've been having a smashing bank hol. I haven't achieved much other than a couple of drinking sessions and making this video. Best wishes to you and yours my friend 😁
Awesome video Pete. I must say you make it very interesting to follow along. I think it is because you are just SO familiar with these rigs. Over the years I have made the realization that a slower rig isn't necessarily a bad thing. A lot less flipping it back on its tires AND a lot less breakage. Excellent video AND advice brother. Thumbs up
Hiya Nick. Yeah I think that particularly with some of the old Tamiyas, they weren't designed to be fast and they don't take to it well. The Lunchbox on the other hand is hilarious on brushless and pretty reliable too. Many thanks for your kind feedback as ever my friend. I hope that all is well with you and yours 😁
I got a monster beetle and discovered how much I love this chassis even with its minor flaws... to the point I got a blackfoot coming in the mail (for my son to race along). For the diff I've printed a gearbox brace and will try it soon... apparently it fixes the clicking. It's true about the motor setup .. the stock brushed motor is perfect and the car is incredibly fun.
I've just received a vintage blackfoot in the post..just repainted the body..its looking really nice..I've also ordered some alloy wheels..its gonna be cool 😊
@stevenzacharakis nah got a monster beetle and vintage subaru brat..love them..got a king cab with original technigold 540rz motor..its in beautiful condition..cost me a small fortune..but hey..I've got all the tamiyas I wanted as a teenager..all in good nick🫡
Oh yeah this is definitely a fun chassis despite the weaknesses. The gearbox brace does sound like it ought to work because it will stop the aluminium sides from bending outwards. I love the looks of the Blackfoot and Monster Beetle. Really classic Tamiyas. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
Thank you Pete for that informative Video. My son has a monster beetle, the right drive shaft used to pop out a lot, then i put a washer under the rigt drive cup to pull it a mm more out (STANDARD DIFF). No issues any more. I like your workaround with the screws also. Kind regards Sascha
Hi there. Ah so it's not just me then! I did try that with the drive cup initially but it would still come out sometimes so I went down the route of lowering the suspension. Many thanks for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁
The movement of the vehicle is so cute and cute... 😁🥰 I have a Subaru Brat. 😊 I was drawn to the temptation of having two bodies... 😜 Thank you for the tune-up information.😍🤗 💐
Oh yeah it has vintage handling for sure. I think that the Brat handles better than the Blackfoot but the Blackfoot does look cool. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback 😁👍
Great insight to your experience with this classic. Without the MIP installed people shim the gearbox. Seems to help so I might try that if I ever get around to building my Monster Beetle.
Hiya Damian. Yeah I'd heard that people do that with the diff so I'll give it a go if I need to go back to the standard parts. Many thanks for watching mate. Best wishes 😃
Hi Pete, yes I had the same problem with the dog bones. I found no easy or cheap solution, so I went the hard way with the Ampro double-wishbone suspension. It's very expensive because you do a lot of changes and additional reinforcements to the chassis. But all issues were solved and I like the new battery door.
Hi there. It's good to know that it's not just me. Your solution sounds good. I was just looking at your channel to see if you made a video about it. Couldn't find one. Anyway as I was saying in the video in the end I thought I'd keep it close to the original as I've got other ones I can bash about. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great feedback 😁
@@PeteWylieRC I builded it before I started on youtube, so for the build there's only a slideshow. But one of my first videos was a review of my Blackfoot: ruclips.net/video/QmRwryzW9lQ/видео.html You'll prbably find some footages and infos about the Ampro parts in it. But this video is very amateur, with awful sound and backround noises, my English at that time not even mentioned. Or you put "Ampro Blackfoot" in the search. There's a playlist with all the parts😉
Thanks for the informative video. I also have a Blackfoot in my collection, I really like it. It reminds me of my childhood. Everything about this car is pure 80's feeling. I've had the same problem with the drive shafts several times as well. Whenever you have a frontal accident, the drive shafts on the rear axles pop out and pierce through the rubber sleeves. And I only use the Torque Tuned Motor on it. So far I have always been able to repair it or replace the sleeves. Thanks for the tip, maybe I'll try to shorten the suspension travel as you did.
Hi there. It's interesting that a lot of people seem to have had the same issue with the drive shafts and yet Tamiya didn't sort it out. Anyway lowering it a bit does seem to sort it out. Apart from that and those few other issues it is indeed a great 80's RC. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁
Great video! I had a Mudblaster back in the early 90's and my friend had the Blackfoot - we could only race for about 10 minutes a go as the Nicad batteries were so awful back then!, but it was so much fun. His diff used to slip really badly (and noisily) compared to mine, we finally worked it out to be the difference in the tyres. The softer spiked ones on the mud-blaster gave the diff a lot less work - I didn't glue them as allowing the tyre to slip a bit around the hub also reduced the load on the diff. I've just got a Monstor Beetle 2015 kit for a bit of nostagia. It's about 90% the same as my modded Mudblaster from back in the day, so looking forward to building it!
Hi there. Oh yeah the old batteries were rubbish weren't they? Technology has certainly moved on and great to use it in these old RC's. The diff is certainly an issue with the bigger wheels as I've not had an issue with my Brat. I hadn't thought about the fact that the wheels slipping in the tyres is a kind of slipper clutch. The trouble is that mine just filled with sand until I glued them. These kits are indeed great for nostalgia but a few issues if you want to run them hard. Have fun with the build and thank for your great comments 😁👍
Thanks Pete that's some great advice here. I reckon Tamiya knew what they were doing when they released these vintage Tamiya cars in the 1980s. Nobody back then ever really thought of RC cars reaching 50- 60 mph. Tamiya released these cars and at the time 20 -25 kmh was fast enough. There was some really fast cars around in those days but not really for the masses and sold to anyone. Tamiya was releasing cars the average 14-15 kid could put together to kind of grow into the hobby and that's what Tamiya were about plain and simple just fun. Sure don't get me wrong I love Tamiya and they were very competitive too in the hey day of vintage RC.and I just realised this too that Tamiya were probably the first of the legendary hobby manufacturers to bring back their classic RC cars in the rerelease kits before any body else did . I think Tamiya started then Kyosho followed and then Losi and Team Associated and Yokomo Tamiya were the first back in the late 1970s. with the Buggy Champ which is now returning this year. Tamiya starting was it 1947 before Kyosho. Strange though all these great hobbies and interests we had in the old days were so way ahead of their time and so good back then that they are now returning. Old American muscle car's like the Dodge Charger and Dodge Challenger. the Chevy Camaro and Ford Mustang just to name a few although in the last year or so both Chevrolet and Ford have shafted all the muscle car community by abandoning the performance car and using the Camaro and Mustang names on a electric SUV from each manufacturer. Mongoose bmx has rereleased some of their classic bikes like the Super Goose and California Pro but these are nowhere near as good as the original bikes back in the 1980s. Great video their Pete thankyou 👍👌
Hi there. Wow your comment might be the longest I've ever had! Yeah Tamiya were really the thing to have when I started out in the hobby around 1982. I had a Holiday Buggy and I loved it although there were so many weaknesses with it and I had to be quite creative with fixes. It's very smart of these companies to re-release these products from our childhoods as they know that adults love nostalgia and they generally have more spare cash than when they were kids. Some of the RC's are surprisingly good and you can put a brushless set in with no problems but others like the Blackfoot are a little bit fragile. It's just great to have all this choice now and I can see myself doing the hobby into old age. Many thanks indeed for your great comments and positive feedback. Very much appreciated 😁👍👍
Hey that's good to hear. If you've not had any problems then maybe you aren't trying hard enough 🤣 Many thanks indeed for watching and your feedback 😁👍
I have my dads original release blackfoot with mechanical speed control and all. I remember running it as a kid and shortly before the 2016 rerelease i fixed whatever was broken and got it running again. I think i will definitely get the 2016 kit and have the original and reissue side by side!
Hi there. Oh yes back in the day this was really something and still fun today but a little bit fragile. Great to have that original one and yes be good to get the re-release too as it's a great kit. Many thanks indeed for watching the video and your comments 😁👍👍
Although not their best kit ever it is a great one to have. I have left mine stock as I knew there were some issues with that rear end. I love the look of the truck and it certainly has its own driving characteristics for sure! They are fun to get out and bounce all over and just enjoy it for what it is! I love the truck and it will always be one of my favorites of all time!
Hiya Addam. It sounds like you've got the same idea as me and to just enjoy this as a retro RC rather than trying to make it a tough brushless basher. This chassis is a very interesting design and one that probably only Tamiya would come up with. Many thanks for watching my friend. Hope all ok with you 😃
Would be cool if one day Tamiya updated the plastic on the reissue models. If they did that the cars would be virtually bulletproof. Thanks for the tips .
Hi there. Oh yes that would be nice but I won't hold my breath! Tamiya like their shiny brittle plastic too much. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great comments 😁
Realise this is a really old video, but wondered if you found slightly lowering the Blackfoot helped with stability at all? I've just ordered some lunchbox tyres and am thinking about lowering slightly and maybe even adding a little weight to the front?
Hi there. Yeah I made it ride lower and that helped. I did run it with Lunchbox tyres for a while and it is a bit better. You need a spacer on the front hub so that the tyres don't rub. Those brass bushings that are the size of an 850 bearing will do. Many thanks for watching 😁👍
@@PeteWylieRC Thanks - yeah my Blackfoot is my original from the 80s, so I want to try and stop it rolling so I can drive it occasionally without rolling and messing up the body. Might have to get a lexan body for bashing, but will see how I go
I picked up a 2016 rerelease back in 2019 and it's still sitting in the box. it's by far the best looking Tamiya truck ever made. I was also going to do a brushless motor and there's another guy who has the perfect setup with a differential and wheelie bar. IIRC he was doing 40 mph stable!
Oh yeah it's a fine looking RC for sure. Probably Tamiyas best body shell. I'm impressed if that guy has got this doing 40mph. Was that with the kit tyres? The lack of grip on the tarmac was my main issue. Anyway, hope you get to build yours before too long. Many thanks for watching and your great feedback 😁👍
Hi Pete, and another one of those 10min guru sessions on this classic chassis. Lots of details to absorb in, which may take a few viewings to note. It’s strange how on the re-release of this Blackfoot the rear arm stoppers where plastic, whereas the Brat they are alloy, I would have thought Tamiya, would have just left them as the Brat. Strange…anyway, I would agree with you, leave it as a brushed setup, back in the 80’s we didn’t have such sophisticated power systems, Technigold was king, and electronic ESC were not used, only those mechanical 3 step forward 2 reverse wiper ESC’s. I’d imagine the MIP diff is probably an over kill now,still, it will have a smooth action when you’re giving it some wellie on the golf bunkers 😊😁😉. I’ve not had much issues with my Brat, just the front steering arms are flimsy, so will be updating those in the near future. Love running my Brat around, just so many memories of the early 80’s. Great video, I will have to view a couple more times to take some notes of the small upgrades. Take care and best wishes to you and the family. Next up on YT for me is a fabulous Lunchbox that the great Peter Smith bought me for Christmas 21, hope you like it 😊😁😉👊🏼
Hiya John. Yes I tried to remember all the bits I've done to this. Those plastic suspension bits are rubbish but just cost saving I guess. I think that the Best is probably the one to go for on this chassis as it drives better than the Blackfoot because of the little wheels and lower CG. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback as ever my friend. I'll keep an eye out for your Lunchbox (ooh matron). Enjoy the rest of your weekend 😁
So cool. My first good RC was the Blackfoot. I had all the same issues. Very good basic tips. Reinforced body mounts are a must. And the dogbones are a vast improvement over the old hex ball shafts. But limiting suspension travel is needed to stop those annoying pop outs. What does ORV stand for regarding the chassis. I think I once seen it called The ABS Spaceframe, but I'm not sure. I'm curious what ORV means. This chassis is so classic, its been used in many cars and several colors.
Hi there. Yeah I think I said in the video that this is one for the Tamiya fan rather than the general RC basher. Too many weaknesses to really give this a hard time. I think that ORV is just off road vehicle. Was certainly quite revolutionary at the time and I think it works best in the small wheel cars like the Brat. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
@@PeteWylieRC Off Road Vehicle! ORV... Of course! That's logical. Yes, durability was an issue, but I was more annoyed by it not being four wheel drive. I beat a Traxxas Stampede for years which proved to handle much better and rarely broke. Tamyia & Traxxas are by far my favorite RC makers. Thanks a lot for your ORV info.
That was a rather nostalgic video to me, i had a blackfoot back in 1990 and regretted getting rid of it ever since. I had one of yhose Absima combos on my Outlaw which made it pretty quick just on 2s buy man 25mph on the blackfoot isnt shabby at all but yeah probably a bit too much for that chassis. I'd also keep it brushed if i had one. 👍
Oh yeah maybe you should have stashed that original one away to rediscover a few years later. It is a nice RC but just with those slight weaknesses that I was talking about. The gearbox never sounded very happy with the brushless set so I think that brushed is the way to go. Many thanks indeed for your great comments. Much appreciated 😁
Hi there. Oh no I haven't had any break so I don't know about upgrades. Is your clutch slipping enough to protect the drive train? Not sure why yours would break so much.
@@PeteWylieRC might possibly be, do you have any videos on this ect new to the electric RC side, I did turn the punch setting up to level 4 on the esc tho could that be possibly why?
@@ImTMBR I haven't done any vids about the electronics on these. If the punch is high and you run on grippy surfaced then it might put too much strain on the drive train. With the clutch it should be fully tight then undo a turn and a half.
@@PeteWylieRC the last ORV chassis I did was the Brat which is my favorite out of all of that chassis and I ended up with a wild brushless and Lipo set up in it just for the beach and matched up with frog or grasshopper tires makes for some insane rooster tails and fun. I’m finishing up a custom 4x4 wild willy as we speak which will be my last one do to time, money and my hands not being what they use to be. Keep up the good work love the channel. Would love to see more vintage and even if you can get your hands on one cheap a blizzard single motor. I had three of them loads of fun with a brushless and correct gearing.
I had one of these back in the 90's, I thought it was shit to be honest but it's amazing what nostalgia does to us! I'd much rather a modern 1/16 basher truck that actually has double wishbones, 4WD and a decent chassis that can handle brushless from the outset.
Oh yes if you actually put these up against a modern RC they don't hold up too well in terms of value, strength or performance. The look of it makes me happy though. It is also fun to run slightly carefully as it has a bit of character. Many thanks for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
Hiya Barry. Well yes as you know half of the hobby is trying to improve these things without spending too much cash 😀 I was quite pleased with the body posts as it took me ages to think of it but the solution was completely free and stronger than the original parts. The motor runs great. I don't know how they are long term but seems good so far. Cheers for watching mate 😁
Torque tuned Motor, 7,4v lipo and high gearing are the best go to performance upgrades for the tamiya oldschool rereleases. There's no need for more power imo 😀
Hi there. Yeah I think there's good for most of them including this one. I do enjoy my brushless Lunchbox though. Many thanks for your great feedback 😁👍
I love that body shell as it reminds me of my ranger, good info for my blackfoot chassis I have before I put my GL body on it. Any tips for the brat as I have one coming soon
Hi there. Yeah this is one of the best shells that Tamiya ever made. I see that you found my Brat build guide. Hope you enjoy the build. Many thanks for your comments 😀
Cool looking&running retro Tamiya truck you gt there Pete that's too bad the brushless set up didn't workout but hey you are still running a 2s lipo in it right?
Hi there. Oh yeah I guess I could have left the brushless set in but it will be better used in another car. Yes still 2s lipo. I didn't want to do the speed test again with the brushed set in case I damaged it again but it probably goes about 18 mph I would say. Many thanks indeed for your support as ever 😁
@@PeteWylieRC You deserve it Pete I recently got my hands on a 1/10 truggy 3s the Arrma Vortek sadly I can't take it out until my XT90 plugs comes in but I was able to double my driveshaft screws since I hear a lot pople talking about how from the factory they aren't very tight or there isn't any loctite on them and how they tend to make the wheels fly off the 2 front ones are super tight the rear ones needed the loctite all I have to do once my XT90's plugs comes in is set up the ESC Throttle and set up my steering endpoints and I'll be ''cock block and ready to ROCK''😎😎😎😎😎😎
@@3DMOFO2020 oh goodness that's going to be epic. They are really quick. I'm sure you saw my guide videos about what to check on the Arrma 3s cars. The unboxing of the Big Rock is a summary of all the things. Have fun once you get the plugs sorted 😃
I have a Blackfoot that I have had since probably 1987, but my question is, I all of a sudden have no power to the motor! And it’s not the radio cause everything else work’s fine, even tried another motor, and nothing!…. 🤷🏻♀️ I’m stumped, any thought’s or suggestion’s? I can’t find any loose wire’s or anything, and yes my big ni-cad battery’s are both still good!
Hi there. Ooh that's tricky without seeing it. If it has an esc then it could be that or the mechanical speed controller if it has one of those. If I have a problem like that then I usually swap out bits with one that does work until I find the problem. That does require you to have another RC that does work though. Hope you can sort it out. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@PeteWylieRC Thank u, yeah I was kind of wondering if it is one of those 2 item’s not working right!.. I’ll give those a shot and maybe make a trip to the one R/C Hobby Shop we have within 100 miles around here! lol…. But yes thank u again Pete!.. 🙂
Hi there. It could be any number of things to do with the electronics. It's handy if you've got more than one car so you can swap bits out till you find the problem. You are saying about using AA batteries but these use a 7.2v rechargeable NiMH or lipo pack. Maybe you haven't got enough power?
Haha, you know I was in those bunkers for about an hour or so and not a single golfer turned up. I think it's a waste of the land if someone like me doesn't use it for alternative purposes! Many thanks for watching and your great comments 😀
Hiya Pete, love the channel! Oh how I can relate to all of the points you brought up!! Currently own 5 ORV chassis Tamiyas(fully restored 'as new' original 80s monster beetle, black foot and mud blaster that stay on the shelf, and a re re blackfoot and re re monster beetle that I drive extremely hard!) I've encountered the exact same problems with both my re re runners.... I added a couple of washers where the drive cups come out of the differential to stop them continually spitting out drive shafts(seems to have worked). I also used the extra washer in the gearbox to stop that awful gear clicking/slipping which has plagued these models for years (why didn't tamiya address this issue for the re release?) I constructed my own rear body mount brackets out of meccano after going through multiple parts trees in very little time! Found your 'steering slop tip' most handy as this is one point still to be adressed, thank you! Currently running tamiya super stock rz motors in both cars (standard tamiya diffs) and have found the perfect balance between power/speed and long term durability (yet to replace any gearbox components after two years of serious bashing!! Combine that with bearings, upgraded aluminium adjustable dampers and working lights and we have two Suprisingly good handling, nippy and fairly durable classic runners! Keep up the great work, you guys are keeping the flame alive for us big kids that should have grown up way back in the eighties!! 👍😉
Yes indeed, I've decided to just enjoy it as a model if its time with a brushed motor and I do enjoy it. One of the best Tamiya bodies for sure. Many thanks indeed for watching and your feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
Tamiya should do a rerelease with a different chassis because everything about that chassis sucks , bad design,weak design,sloppy , piece of crap , body is very cool
Oh yeah this chassis is very dated. Interesting to build something from a different era but not practical as a basher. There was the Blackfoot 3 which was on a better chassis. Many thanks indeed for your comments 😁👍👍
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Oh man. This brings me back. Had one of these original Blackfoots from the early 90’s when I was in junior high. Almost everything was a weak point but I had a lot of fun trying to upgrade. It was fine for what it was designed for, Low speed cruising around. Of course I was never satisfied with that so put in a more powerful motor and that is when every weak link on that truck came to light. I did learn a lot about mechanics from that truck but it was one problem after another. Mine was super fast and it was very unstable at those speeds and would usually wind up flipping it over and rolling it.
Hi there. I didn't have one of these first time around but I did have the first Holiday Buggy in about 1982 and I think that everything on that was a weak point! Didn't stop me trying to make it quicker and stronger as you did with your Blackfoot. Now that I have a fair few RC's I can leave the Blackfoot as a gentle runner and leave some of the others to take the high speed abuse. Many thanks for sharing your memories. Always interesting to hear what other enthusiasts got up to back in the day :-)
I owned 3 Blackfoots as a Teen. After about my 15th trip to the Hobby Shop in 1990, to buy more dogbones, the owner and I sat down and thumbed through pages of parts lists to find a solution... We found a complete Differential from "Robinson Racing RC" made specifically for the Blackfoot/Frog. It was very expensive at $90, but It was Bulletproof. I ran a Trinity 14turn motor and thrashed through atleast 5 sets of tires, but never had a single failure from the rearend ever again. Unfortunately, I don't believe Robinson makes them anymore.
Hi there. That does sound like a great upgrade and a shame it's not made anymore. The Ampro diff seems good so far. It's great that there is a new generation of upgrade spares for these re-release kits. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback. Very much appreciated 😁
Hi Pete, another great video right here, mate! Oh yes, as you know I have the original Monster Beetle on this chassis and have had all the same problems as you! Funnily enough, I did exactly the same and limited the rear suspension travel to stop the dogbones flying out. I have a 21T brushed Firebolt motor and it's fast enough for me, but interestingly I'm still running the original 35 year old diff! Never had a problem in all these years! I have fitted the Brat drivecups and dogbones, though. My body mounts disintegrated and I made my own custom alloy body mounts, they bend but don't break! Great kits, but with their drawbacks as you have thoroughly demonstrated. Great advice here for all Blackfoot and ORV fans. Hope all is going well, take care, mate! :))
Hiya matey. Yeah it's odd that everyone seems to have had the thing with the drive shafts coming out and yet this is how Tamiya sells it. You'd think that they might have done something about it. I was thinking about your one with all those extra metal bits. I didn't want to go to that extent with mine if I could help it. I did look for upgraded body posts but nobody seems to make them. Anyway it has provided me with plenty of tinker time this one. Hope you've been having a smashing bank hol. I haven't achieved much other than a couple of drinking sessions and making this video. Best wishes to you and yours my friend 😁
Just brought my first black foot thanks to you 😊
Oh cool. Well I think I've covered most of the issues so enjoy the build and have (gentle) fun with it once it's built 🙂
Awesome video Pete. I must say you make it very interesting to follow along. I think it is because you are just SO familiar with these rigs. Over the years I have made the realization that a slower rig isn't necessarily a bad thing. A lot less flipping it back on its tires AND a lot less breakage. Excellent video AND advice brother. Thumbs up
Hiya Nick. Yeah I think that particularly with some of the old Tamiyas, they weren't designed to be fast and they don't take to it well. The Lunchbox on the other hand is hilarious on brushless and pretty reliable too. Many thanks for your kind feedback as ever my friend. I hope that all is well with you and yours 😁
I got a monster beetle and discovered how much I love this chassis even with its minor flaws... to the point I got a blackfoot coming in the mail (for my son to race along).
For the diff I've printed a gearbox brace and will try it soon... apparently it fixes the clicking.
It's true about the motor setup .. the stock brushed motor is perfect and the car is incredibly fun.
I've just received a vintage blackfoot in the post..just repainted the body..its looking really nice..I've also ordered some alloy wheels..its gonna be cool 😊
@@garyloades5188 is this your first orv/large wheeler? They just go anywhere!
@stevenzacharakis nah got a monster beetle and vintage subaru brat..love them..got a king cab with original technigold 540rz motor..its in beautiful condition..cost me a small fortune..but hey..I've got all the tamiyas I wanted as a teenager..all in good nick🫡
Oh yeah this is definitely a fun chassis despite the weaknesses. The gearbox brace does sound like it ought to work because it will stop the aluminium sides from bending outwards. I love the looks of the Blackfoot and Monster Beetle. Really classic Tamiyas. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
Thank you Pete for that informative Video. My son has a monster beetle, the right drive shaft used to pop out a lot, then i put a washer under the rigt drive cup to pull it a mm more out (STANDARD DIFF). No issues any more. I like your workaround with the screws also.
Kind regards Sascha
Hi there. Ah so it's not just me then! I did try that with the drive cup initially but it would still come out sometimes so I went down the route of lowering the suspension. Many thanks for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁
The movement of the vehicle is so cute and cute... 😁🥰
I have a Subaru Brat. 😊
I was drawn to the temptation of having two bodies... 😜
Thank you for the tune-up information.😍🤗 💐
Oh yeah it has vintage handling for sure. I think that the Brat handles better than the Blackfoot but the Blackfoot does look cool. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback 😁👍
Great insight to your experience with this classic. Without the MIP installed people shim the gearbox. Seems to help so I might try that if I ever get around to building my Monster Beetle.
Hiya Damian. Yeah I'd heard that people do that with the diff so I'll give it a go if I need to go back to the standard parts. Many thanks for watching mate. Best wishes 😃
Hi Pete, yes I had the same problem with the dog bones. I found no easy or cheap solution, so I went the hard way with the Ampro double-wishbone suspension. It's very expensive because you do a lot of changes and additional reinforcements to the chassis. But all issues were solved and I like the new battery door.
Hi there. It's good to know that it's not just me. Your solution sounds good. I was just looking at your channel to see if you made a video about it. Couldn't find one. Anyway as I was saying in the video in the end I thought I'd keep it close to the original as I've got other ones I can bash about. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great feedback 😁
@@PeteWylieRC I builded it before I started on youtube, so for the build there's only a slideshow.
But one of my first videos was a review of my Blackfoot:
ruclips.net/video/QmRwryzW9lQ/видео.html
You'll prbably find some footages and infos about the Ampro parts in it. But this video is very amateur, with awful sound and backround noises, my English at that time not even mentioned.
Or you put "Ampro Blackfoot" in the search. There's a playlist with all the parts😉
Thanks for the informative video. I also have a Blackfoot in my collection, I really like it. It reminds me of my childhood. Everything about this car is pure 80's feeling. I've had the same problem with the drive shafts several times as well. Whenever you have a frontal accident, the drive shafts on the rear axles pop out and pierce through the rubber sleeves. And I only use the Torque Tuned Motor on it. So far I have always been able to repair it or replace the sleeves. Thanks for the tip, maybe I'll try to shorten the suspension travel as you did.
Hi there. It's interesting that a lot of people seem to have had the same issue with the drive shafts and yet Tamiya didn't sort it out. Anyway lowering it a bit does seem to sort it out. Apart from that and those few other issues it is indeed a great 80's RC. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁
Great video! I had a Mudblaster back in the early 90's and my friend had the Blackfoot - we could only race for about 10 minutes a go as the Nicad batteries were so awful back then!, but it was so much fun.
His diff used to slip really badly (and noisily) compared to mine, we finally worked it out to be the difference in the tyres. The softer spiked ones on the mud-blaster gave the diff a lot less work - I didn't glue them as allowing the tyre to slip a bit around the hub also reduced the load on the diff.
I've just got a Monstor Beetle 2015 kit for a bit of nostagia. It's about 90% the same as my modded Mudblaster from back in the day, so looking forward to building it!
Hi there. Oh yeah the old batteries were rubbish weren't they? Technology has certainly moved on and great to use it in these old RC's. The diff is certainly an issue with the bigger wheels as I've not had an issue with my Brat. I hadn't thought about the fact that the wheels slipping in the tyres is a kind of slipper clutch. The trouble is that mine just filled with sand until I glued them. These kits are indeed great for nostalgia but a few issues if you want to run them hard. Have fun with the build and thank for your great comments 😁👍
Thanks Pete that's some great advice here. I reckon Tamiya knew what they were doing when they released these vintage Tamiya cars in the 1980s. Nobody back then ever really thought of RC cars reaching 50- 60 mph. Tamiya released these cars and at the time 20 -25 kmh was fast enough. There was some really fast cars around in those days but not really for the masses and sold to anyone. Tamiya was releasing cars the average 14-15 kid could put together to kind of grow into the hobby and that's what Tamiya were about plain and simple just fun. Sure don't get me wrong I love Tamiya and they were very competitive too in the hey day of vintage RC.and I just realised this too that Tamiya were probably the first of the legendary hobby manufacturers to bring back their classic RC cars in the rerelease kits before any body else did . I think Tamiya started then Kyosho followed and then Losi and Team Associated and Yokomo Tamiya were the first back in the late 1970s. with the Buggy Champ which is now returning this year. Tamiya starting was it 1947 before Kyosho. Strange though all these great hobbies and interests we had in the old days were so way ahead of their time and so good back then that they are now returning. Old American muscle car's like the Dodge Charger and Dodge Challenger. the Chevy Camaro and Ford Mustang just to name a few although in the last year or so both Chevrolet and Ford have shafted all the muscle car community by abandoning the performance car and using the Camaro and Mustang names on a electric SUV from each manufacturer. Mongoose bmx has rereleased some of their classic bikes like the Super Goose and California Pro but these are nowhere near as good as the original bikes back in the 1980s. Great video their Pete thankyou 👍👌
Hi there. Wow your comment might be the longest I've ever had! Yeah Tamiya were really the thing to have when I started out in the hobby around 1982. I had a Holiday Buggy and I loved it although there were so many weaknesses with it and I had to be quite creative with fixes. It's very smart of these companies to re-release these products from our childhoods as they know that adults love nostalgia and they generally have more spare cash than when they were kids. Some of the RC's are surprisingly good and you can put a brushless set in with no problems but others like the Blackfoot are a little bit fragile. It's just great to have all this choice now and I can see myself doing the hobby into old age. Many thanks indeed for your great comments and positive feedback. Very much appreciated 😁👍👍
Nice video. Happy to say I've had no trouble with my blackfoot so far.
Hey that's good to hear. If you've not had any problems then maybe you aren't trying hard enough 🤣 Many thanks indeed for watching and your feedback 😁👍
@PeteWylieRC what I hear you saying is to launch it full send. Challenge excepted!!
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I have my dads original release blackfoot with mechanical speed control and all. I remember running it as a kid and shortly before the 2016 rerelease i fixed whatever was broken and got it running again. I think i will definitely get the 2016 kit and have the original and reissue side by side!
Hi there. Oh yes back in the day this was really something and still fun today but a little bit fragile. Great to have that original one and yes be good to get the re-release too as it's a great kit. Many thanks indeed for watching the video and your comments 😁👍👍
Although not their best kit ever it is a great one to have. I have left mine stock as I knew there were some issues with that rear end. I love the look of the truck and it certainly has its own driving characteristics for sure! They are fun to get out and bounce all over and just enjoy it for what it is! I love the truck and it will always be one of my favorites of all time!
Hiya Addam. It sounds like you've got the same idea as me and to just enjoy this as a retro RC rather than trying to make it a tough brushless basher. This chassis is a very interesting design and one that probably only Tamiya would come up with. Many thanks for watching my friend. Hope all ok with you 😃
Would be cool if one day Tamiya updated the plastic on the reissue models. If they did that the cars would be virtually bulletproof. Thanks for the tips .
Hi there. Oh yes that would be nice but I won't hold my breath! Tamiya like their shiny brittle plastic too much. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great comments 😁
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@@XBOXShawn12thman Many thanks indeed for the sub and your kind feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
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Realise this is a really old video, but wondered if you found slightly lowering the Blackfoot helped with stability at all? I've just ordered some lunchbox tyres and am thinking about lowering slightly and maybe even adding a little weight to the front?
Hi there. Yeah I made it ride lower and that helped. I did run it with Lunchbox tyres for a while and it is a bit better. You need a spacer on the front hub so that the tyres don't rub. Those brass bushings that are the size of an 850 bearing will do. Many thanks for watching 😁👍
@@PeteWylieRC Thanks - yeah my Blackfoot is my original from the 80s, so I want to try and stop it rolling so I can drive it occasionally without rolling and messing up the body. Might have to get a lexan body for bashing, but will see how I go
I picked up a 2016 rerelease back in 2019 and it's still sitting in the box. it's by far the best looking Tamiya truck ever made. I was also going to do a brushless motor and there's another guy who has the perfect setup with a differential and wheelie bar. IIRC he was doing 40 mph stable!
Oh yeah it's a fine looking RC for sure. Probably Tamiyas best body shell. I'm impressed if that guy has got this doing 40mph. Was that with the kit tyres? The lack of grip on the tarmac was my main issue. Anyway, hope you get to build yours before too long. Many thanks for watching and your great feedback 😁👍
Wow this black foat crawler very cool.. Awesome tamiya.. Awesome.. Awesome.. Thanks for sharing suspension,. Smooth suspension..
Many thanks indeed for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁
Hi Pete, and another one of those 10min guru sessions on this classic chassis. Lots of details to absorb in, which may take a few viewings to note. It’s strange how on the re-release of this Blackfoot the rear arm stoppers where plastic, whereas the Brat they are alloy, I would have thought Tamiya, would have just left them as the Brat. Strange…anyway, I would agree with you, leave it as a brushed setup, back in the 80’s we didn’t have such sophisticated power systems, Technigold was king, and electronic ESC were not used, only those mechanical 3 step forward 2 reverse wiper ESC’s. I’d imagine the MIP diff is probably an over kill now,still, it will have a smooth action when you’re giving it some wellie on the golf bunkers 😊😁😉. I’ve not had much issues with my Brat, just the front steering arms are flimsy, so will be updating those in the near future. Love running my Brat around, just so many memories of the early 80’s. Great video, I will have to view a couple more times to take some notes of the small upgrades. Take care and best wishes to you and the family. Next up on YT for me is a fabulous Lunchbox that the great Peter Smith bought me for Christmas 21, hope you like it 😊😁😉👊🏼
Hiya John. Yes I tried to remember all the bits I've done to this. Those plastic suspension bits are rubbish but just cost saving I guess. I think that the Best is probably the one to go for on this chassis as it drives better than the Blackfoot because of the little wheels and lower CG. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback as ever my friend. I'll keep an eye out for your Lunchbox (ooh matron). Enjoy the rest of your weekend 😁
So cool. My first good RC was the Blackfoot. I had all the same issues. Very good basic tips. Reinforced body mounts are a must. And the dogbones are a vast improvement over the old hex ball shafts. But limiting suspension travel is needed to stop those annoying pop outs. What does ORV stand for regarding the chassis. I think I once seen it called The ABS Spaceframe, but I'm not sure. I'm curious what ORV means. This chassis is so classic, its been used in many cars and several colors.
Hi there. Yeah I think I said in the video that this is one for the Tamiya fan rather than the general RC basher. Too many weaknesses to really give this a hard time. I think that ORV is just off road vehicle. Was certainly quite revolutionary at the time and I think it works best in the small wheel cars like the Brat. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
@@PeteWylieRC Off Road Vehicle! ORV... Of course! That's logical. Yes, durability was an issue, but I was more annoyed by it not being four wheel drive. I beat a Traxxas Stampede for years which proved to handle much better and rarely broke. Tamyia & Traxxas are by far my favorite RC makers. Thanks a lot for your ORV info.
That was a rather nostalgic video to me, i had a blackfoot back in 1990 and regretted getting rid of it ever since. I had one of yhose Absima combos on my Outlaw which made it pretty quick just on 2s buy man 25mph on the blackfoot isnt shabby at all but yeah probably a bit too much for that chassis. I'd also keep it brushed if i had one. 👍
Oh yeah maybe you should have stashed that original one away to rediscover a few years later. It is a nice RC but just with those slight weaknesses that I was talking about. The gearbox never sounded very happy with the brushless set so I think that brushed is the way to go. Many thanks indeed for your great comments. Much appreciated 😁
@@PeteWylieRC yeah i should've kept mine but hey ho. Been tempted to buy one but space in my house is extremely limited and i only have 5 cars 😑
I had a trinity monster power motor in my Blackfoot 30 years ago. It was pretty fast with that worn out used motor.
Sounds pretty cool. Many thanks for the info and for watching. Much appreciated 😁
Hi Pete i have a good idea for the rear body posts if the tops snap off on the Blackfoot have a look at the tamiya hex screw mounts. Great vids.
Hi there. Oh yes they would work also. Many thanks for the idea and your kind feedback. Much appreciated 😁
New to your Chanel, do you have any recommendations for driveshaft upgrades for the granite as mine keep failing, thankyouu
Hi there. Oh no I haven't had any break so I don't know about upgrades. Is your clutch slipping enough to protect the drive train? Not sure why yours would break so much.
@@PeteWylieRC might possibly be, do you have any videos on this ect new to the electric RC side, I did turn the punch setting up to level 4 on the esc tho could that be possibly why?
@@ImTMBR I haven't done any vids about the electronics on these. If the punch is high and you run on grippy surfaced then it might put too much strain on the drive train. With the clutch it should be fully tight then undo a turn and a half.
@@PeteWylieRC ahh perfect I’ll give that a go, thanks Pete appreciate the replies
Great video.
I've got one on the way to me.
Many thanks indeed. I hope you enjoy the build 😁👍
That drive cup was always an issue nice fix
Yeah it seems to be more reliable now. Many thanks indeed for watching and your comments 😀
@@PeteWylieRC the last ORV chassis I did was the Brat which is my favorite out of all of that chassis and I ended up with a wild brushless and Lipo set up in it just for the beach and matched up with frog or grasshopper tires makes for some insane rooster tails and fun. I’m finishing up a custom 4x4 wild willy as we speak which will be my last one do to time, money and my hands not being what they use to be. Keep up the good work love the channel. Would love to see more vintage and even if you can get your hands on one cheap a blizzard single motor. I had three of them loads of fun with a brushless and correct gearing.
I had one of these back in the 90's, I thought it was shit to be honest but it's amazing what nostalgia does to us! I'd much rather a modern 1/16 basher truck that actually has double wishbones, 4WD and a decent chassis that can handle brushless from the outset.
Oh yes if you actually put these up against a modern RC they don't hold up too well in terms of value, strength or performance. The look of it makes me happy though. It is also fun to run slightly carefully as it has a bit of character. Many thanks for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
I like your ingenuity dude, some nice fixes. How do you find the firebolt motor? I've fitted a pair to my Clod but haven't run it yet. 👌
Hiya Barry. Well yes as you know half of the hobby is trying to improve these things without spending too much cash 😀 I was quite pleased with the body posts as it took me ages to think of it but the solution was completely free and stronger than the original parts. The motor runs great. I don't know how they are long term but seems good so far. Cheers for watching mate 😁
Torque tuned Motor, 7,4v lipo and high gearing are the best go to performance upgrades for the tamiya oldschool rereleases. There's no need for more power imo 😀
Hi there. Yeah I think there's good for most of them including this one. I do enjoy my brushless Lunchbox though. Many thanks for your great feedback 😁👍
I love that body shell as it reminds me of my ranger, good info for my blackfoot chassis I have before I put my GL body on it. Any tips for the brat as I have one coming soon
Hi there. Yeah this is one of the best shells that Tamiya ever made. I see that you found my Brat build guide. Hope you enjoy the build. Many thanks for your comments 😀
@@PeteWylieRC well it got me sorting blackfoot out and running and body fixed on, I been waiting for months for it to come from a UK dealer
Cool looking&running retro Tamiya truck you gt there Pete that's too bad the brushless set up didn't workout but hey you are still running a 2s lipo in it right?
Hi there. Oh yeah I guess I could have left the brushless set in but it will be better used in another car. Yes still 2s lipo. I didn't want to do the speed test again with the brushed set in case I damaged it again but it probably goes about 18 mph I would say. Many thanks indeed for your support as ever 😁
@@PeteWylieRC You deserve it Pete I recently got my hands on a 1/10 truggy 3s the Arrma Vortek sadly I can't take it out until my XT90 plugs comes in but I was able to double my driveshaft screws since I hear a lot pople talking about how from the factory they aren't very tight or there isn't any loctite on them and how they tend to make the wheels fly off the 2 front ones are super tight the rear ones needed the loctite all I have to do once my XT90's plugs comes in is set up the ESC Throttle and set up my steering endpoints and I'll be ''cock block and ready to ROCK''😎😎😎😎😎😎
@@3DMOFO2020 oh goodness that's going to be epic. They are really quick. I'm sure you saw my guide videos about what to check on the Arrma 3s cars. The unboxing of the Big Rock is a summary of all the things. Have fun once you get the plugs sorted 😃
@@PeteWylieRC I'll look that one up Pete😉😉
i added a thorpe differential to my blackfoot back in the 90s,was tuff as nails,does thorpe still make them?
I've not heard of that one but will look. Thanks for the info 👍
I have a Blackfoot that I have had since probably 1987, but my question is, I all of a sudden have no power to the motor! And it’s not the radio cause everything else work’s fine, even tried another motor, and nothing!…. 🤷🏻♀️ I’m stumped, any thought’s or suggestion’s? I can’t find any loose wire’s or anything, and yes my big ni-cad battery’s are both still good!
Hi there. Ooh that's tricky without seeing it. If it has an esc then it could be that or the mechanical speed controller if it has one of those. If I have a problem like that then I usually swap out bits with one that does work until I find the problem. That does require you to have another RC that does work though. Hope you can sort it out. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@PeteWylieRC Thank u, yeah I was kind of wondering if it is one of those 2 item’s not working right!.. I’ll give those a shot and maybe make a trip to the one R/C Hobby Shop we have within 100 miles around here! lol…. But yes thank u again Pete!.. 🙂
Hi, I have this truck but it has now just died. Stopped working. Battery change ( 8 AA batteries) and still nothing. Any ideas why? Please help!
Hi there. It could be any number of things to do with the electronics. It's handy if you've got more than one car so you can swap bits out till you find the problem. You are saying about using AA batteries but these use a 7.2v rechargeable NiMH or lipo pack. Maybe you haven't got enough power?
Any chance of sending you a couple of pictures of what I have just to see if it's worth Getting repaired or not?
@@chrispaull8717 yeah go for it. I'm not claiming to be an expert but I'll have a look. The channel email is petewylierc@gmail.com
Thanks for your upload 👍🙏🐈
Many thanks indeed for watching and commenting 😁
Bet the golfer’s loved you 🤣
Haha, you know I was in those bunkers for about an hour or so and not a single golfer turned up. I think it's a waste of the land if someone like me doesn't use it for alternative purposes! Many thanks for watching and your great comments 😀
Hiya Pete, love the channel!
Oh how I can relate to all of the points you brought up!!
Currently own 5 ORV chassis Tamiyas(fully restored 'as new' original 80s monster beetle, black foot and mud blaster that stay on the shelf, and a re re blackfoot and re re monster beetle that I drive extremely hard!)
I've encountered the exact same problems with both my re re runners.... I added a couple of washers where the drive cups come out of the differential to stop them continually spitting out drive shafts(seems to have worked).
I also used the extra washer in the gearbox to stop that awful gear clicking/slipping which has plagued these models for years (why didn't tamiya address this issue for the re release?)
I constructed my own rear body mount brackets out of meccano after going through multiple parts trees in very little time!
Found your 'steering slop tip' most handy as this is one point still to be adressed, thank you!
Currently running tamiya super stock rz motors in both cars (standard tamiya diffs) and have found the perfect balance between power/speed and long term durability (yet to replace any gearbox components after two years of serious bashing!!
Combine that with bearings, upgraded aluminium adjustable dampers and working lights and we have two Suprisingly good handling, nippy and fairly durable classic runners!
Keep up the great work, you guys are keeping the flame alive for us big kids that should have grown up way back in the eighties!!
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@@yodadarksideGreenHawksRC hi there. Many thanks indeed. Glad it's not just me with these issues 😃
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This is 35 year old model technology. It will never stand up to modern day bashing standards❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yes indeed, I've decided to just enjoy it as a model if its time with a brushed motor and I do enjoy it. One of the best Tamiya bodies for sure. Many thanks indeed for watching and your feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
Nice 👌
Many thanks 😁
@@PeteWylieRC your welcome, your videos are great. Keep up the amazing work
@@PeteWylieRC I hope you’re well to
@@Emily_xx5 all good here thanks. Hope all ok with you too.
@@PeteWylieRC how’s your day?
My ocd wont allow me to do any of these mods 😑
Ah well just keep it classic 😁👍 Thanks for your great feedback 😁
RamblinRon
Tamiya should do a rerelease with a different chassis because everything about that chassis sucks , bad design,weak design,sloppy , piece of crap , body is very cool
Oh yeah this chassis is very dated. Interesting to build something from a different era but not practical as a basher. There was the Blackfoot 3 which was on a better chassis. Many thanks indeed for your comments 😁👍👍
Good idea, but others will complain that it's lost its character, originality, charm, etc. I'll get one for my shelf one day.
Kauf dir einfach was anderes !LoL
Well yeah I wouldn't have this as my only RC but as a Tamiya fan it looks great on the shelf!