California Beach Community Fights Over Low-Income Housing
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2022
- California’s Redondo Beach community has been struggling to meet state low-income housing requirements. NBC News’ Jake Ward reports on how the owner of a former power plant within the city is close to proceeding with a housing development on the vast site, complete with low-income qualified units.
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People say, help the poor, but not in my back yard.
Exactly, so we really should have no right to complain about homelessness. Simple math, we dont have enough affordable homes, or homes in general across the US. We need to build more when and where we can.
Help the poor help themselves. Those that don't want to work to help themselves F 'em.
thanks for the summary....
He had a point though. Yes you should have a place to live but does it need to be in million dollar beach front property in an expensive city. Why not build it further inland and improve public transit into and out of the city. Traffics is ridiculous there already and public utilities.
I never once said that.
"I don't care if my housekeepers and nannies have to commute hours to clean my house or watch my kids for sub minimum wage."
It’s as though you believe people are too stupid to have agency over their own lives.
The government has to do everything for them ?
@@clownpocket yep exactly correct. There are a hundreds of thousands of people in the US so incompetent to take charge of their own well-being...lack of access to education is the reason for this. Read up on John Locke's thoughts on education. And specifically for the poor
@@unbiasedrealestate2809 What if the education is there, it's just too expensive for most attain?
@@djkush8495 public high schools are free in the US. US high schools don't adequately prepare students for real world scenarios...just recently in the last 10 years high schools have started introducing financial literacy classes, internship and co-op programs, computer coding programs, other trade related programs, university day, etc. Things are definitely improving for high school students...but how do we make advanced degrees more affordable? A lot of public schools are actually quite affordable if you know where to look and adequately prepare. On avg some of the best public schools in the US are between 11k-15k a year. If needed, take out a student loan, work a part time job on campus or work for campus housing as an RA or staff to get free or discounted housing, invest 50% of your savings in equities or fixed income securities, and get a degree that pays six figures or close to six figuess upon graduation.
I agree that the education is there...but info on attaining education is sparse for the poor...but even then I've seen lower income families manage to put their kids to college and to be the first in their families to put their kids to college.
Just because something is too expensive, doesn't mean it's completely out of reach.
@@unbiasedrealestate2809 you are what wrong with America today .
In other words what he said was "the ocean belongs to rich people, the poor people can look at street lights and pavement".
The ocean belongs to everyone not just the wealthy. Time to force the greedy undeserving wealthy inland and they can look at the horrible mess their narcissism has created over the years.
In California yes lol but other countries or states have beach homes for cheap
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Yep, that’s exactly what he said
The most desirable real estate costs the most. Why do low incomers have a special right to something they can't afford on their own?
"How dare those poors think they can live by the ocean" - That councilmen
Poor people should not live on the ocean
To be fair, there's only so much coastline to go around. So I'd expect a premium. But everything would be much cheaper with less NIMBY obstruction.
U live in a fantasy land if u think low income housing will ever be on the beach
I agree...I cant afford to libve there and I am a millionaire
Funny how the same people who complain about low income housing also complain about homelessness...
They’re classist idiots. California is full of them.
It’s funny how low income housing and homelessness bring crime rates up and property values down. 👌🤷♂️
@@patrickforrest9209 fun fact: the idea that low income housing decreases property values is an urban legend based off of zero evidence. Both the NLIHC and the Urban Institute have does studies on this topic in the past 2 years that showed low income housing can actually increase property values, and has no effect on crime.
I don't complain about homelessness.
@@joeking433 are you ok with homeless people in your neighborhood?
At least he was honest. Most people would dance around the issue.
I would say he squirmed around it. He has some valid points. I hope they're considering the impact it will have on traffic and other pretentious but real local issues (but I would bet they are). But the need for housing is real and for even people like him the housing needs to be available near where he wants his services to be available. It would be cool to see a community rally around the idea and spend the same amount of effort and dollars to make the resulting community more vibrant. It can be what you make it, but a low income community with readily available jobs is a good thing, even if they can see water.
@@powdork it’s funny bc no one talks about all the gentrification that happens right next to them in Inglewood. Where will all those folks go who can’t afford to live there anymore due to luxury town homes and brand new stadium. Somebody has to run the facility and work at those places
@@powdork Section 8 never works that way, trust me. It'll will turn into a crime ridden slum like all the others do. Watch.
@@henrylam92 Out of state, of course.
That was an honesty, and he was a nowhere being blunt. If he was being honest with the reporter, he would’ve said “we in this community do not like the fact that poop black and brown people are going to potentially live in low income houses in our picturesque neighborhood that is majority white- that would be honest.
Disgusting that people think they deserve more than others. Everyone works hard, very few can afford a house in this city.
Live somewhere else like south central. Why do you think you’re entitled to take over nice areas?
@@BillyBJohnson The owner of the land wants to develop it and you can't tell him who to rent to. GTFOH
@@BillyBJohnson What makes YOU think that you are entitled to tell anyone that they can't have the same thing that you have? You need to get checked, you are not special, Princess...just entitled.
@@BillyBJohnson STFU, what makes you think they are not entitled to live in a nice area?
@@BillyBJohnson Why do you think people are entitled to only live in s*** areas. Because theyre middle class??? Sounds moronic. Everyones not born into wealth and a middle class income should support living in 99% of the areas in America.
That councilman basically reflects the mindset of that area. And as far as I'm concerned, the phrase "not in my backyard" is synonymous with "separate, but equal."
Separate and (grossly) unequal…. That’s the reality.
I’m waiting for the concentration camps and the criminalization of all deviance - including the creation of a whole new class of criminality, one which goes around the current legal system and permits enforcement to be judge, jury and executioner *with no recourse whatsoever.*
So they’re supposed to put the poor in the neighborhoods of the rich who have invested or work their butts off to afford those homes?
people are delusional to think this was and will always be the case. it's never about division of race, religion - it's always about class. at least india is open about its caste system.
@@9razzler9 i'd be highly surprised if u were black
@@squidtrader7973 their supposed to build housing at a fast enough rate that people aren't fighting over what little properties their are. But the 1% don't care, and the homeowners that had their house prices shoot up definitely don't care.
The answer is to build housing but how can you do that when 20 Karen's show up to sitting hall shouting "We don't want a 4 story condominium!!! We're full already!!!". The Karen's want to live in a city with all the benefits but known of the negatives
Redondo Beach is full of rich NIMBY types, so I hope that development gets off the ground just to spite that councilman
I worked in Redondo for 11 years. Ain’t that the truth!
There are already plenty of bums at the beaches.
those rich nimby types are Democrats. I hope it goes through too and their neighborhoods fill up with drugs and crime.
Are you willing to live next to an affordable housing project? Put up, or shut up.
I grew up in Redondo but never felt truly loved there. I felt more loved in Long Beach.
I can’t identify with the yuppy rich white liberals
"We're already full." Yes, we already know this, which is why people are leaving for 10 other states. I don't know one soul who can afford a house over $1.5M on a $70,000 income.
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NIMBYs like dude give me a headache & don't want to change the Zoning laws, which just so happens to be at the County Department level. Sometimes state level depending on where you're at.
compared to Tokyo, no, California is NOT full.
Exactly,I don't know a soul who can afford to rent an apartment at 1500$ with a 22,000$ annual income aka minimum wage
@@ianhomerpura8937 Tokyo is more like New York , and I believe Tokyo too is very expensive
AMEN 🙏
Typical Californians! They complain about rent being too high, but as soon as affordable options pop up in their backyard, they're against it, go figure. NEWSFLASH YOU CALIS, lower residential and business rents would likely make your $15 coffee, maybe $10 LOL. (But here in the south, been $5 for coffee baybe)
I would expect Redondo Beach to have shops and restaurants and beauty salons and other service industry jobs. Where are the people working at those places supposed to live? Or even their local teachers and civil servants? They can’t afford million dollar homes. How far should people have to commute to work for a local government? Maybe traffic wouldn’t be so bad there if people lived nearer to where they work.
traffic is horrible
Ur making good points!
Well than extend mass transit into Redondo Beach including a light rail line along the beachfront with a pedestrian mall. Get rid of the roadway closest to the beachfront and run all bus and rail lines east off of that rail line.
Consider a massive aging population too which will need more medical and supportive services. Admin aides, medical assistants, grocery workers won’t be able to live there.
they are suppose to click their heels together like that girl (Dorothy) from the wizard of oz...and magically teleport there
I hope the builder wins just to spite that lawmaker and those who have elitist behaviors. The builder owns the land and he is solving a big problem for those who need housing.
Few few weeks ago, Jeff bezo ex-wife donated 2 of her LaA mansions to the low income housing organization to help with the homeless crisis. I sure hope the fundings would work out to speed up the low income housing projects.
He's likely getting a tax incentive from the government. Don't assume his motive is altruistic.
Yes rich people winning over rich people how wonderful.
Even if he's doing it for the kickbacks and profit, at least he's trying. I'm willing to give him a break on that.
Everyone has a choice between affordable housing and homeless camps in their community!
Actually 90% of the homeless are homeless because of drugs and alcohol and criminality. Just throwing them and housing will not fix their problems. Many of them won’t stay in housing.
barring mental issues, everyone has a choice to partake in the american dream. it's harder for some given where they start, but that doesn't remove the fact that it's still there to be had for the taking.
@@ryanbarker5217 okay well you ready to pay for that outpatient treatment for mental health reagan promised when he was governor of CA? no?
They’re not building homeless camps and affordable housing aren’t the same thing
I will add to this thread that my husband and I are considered ‘low income’ in the United States. And yet, even though we rent, we are excellent tenants, great neighbors, respectful, take care of the property, and we are both educated (with disabilities that prevent us from having full time jobs). Just because someone is low-income, does not equal a thief, a drug dealer, desperate, or any other prejudiced stereotype. In fact, most low income people I know are like us.
But that is where the losers fall to. Sure, there are people in the low income areas that are good people, especially if they're strong in the church, but overall it's a bad environment that you try to avoid living in. The violent crime is MUCH higher, the drugs are bad, the education system is bad, etc. I spent my lift trying to get out of the poorer area I grew up in. No one wants their kids in that habitat.
Lol when they say low income they mean ppl making 30k a year or less. Hubby and I make 95k a year in California and are by no means rich and are struggling but would not qualify. Low income housing does bring less than stellar ppl. Grew up around it
@A 1 At least no one is trying to rob them all the time.
Excellent tenants? Capitalist cringe
Yep and a lot of criminals who sponge off the low income i they’re livelihoods live in wealth
Happy to see there is still good reporting in this day and age.
It’s propaganda. I’m sure that comment is pure sarcasm. He interview the old mayor who didn’t get re-elected. That’s a good source?
@@maralang2124It is our current council member that will get re-elected for being NIMBY.
Defunct malls are a good place for affordable housing. I could see an elder community with stores gyms and other services.
That’s a pretty good idea
That's a great idea!
That's been tried all over the country and it never works. Costs are too high, the building inspectors won't pass it for residential unless you spend 100 million bucks on retrofits and sanitation, then there's all the graft and payola to get certifications and pass insections and plumbing and electrical problems that always pop up....then they have to hire a police force for any one building with a population of over 3,000, the roof has to be repaired, escalators have to be replaced, security issues have to be addressed, and no insurance company will take the risk on a 35 year old mall that's been sitting there for 10 years or more. Plus there's the taxes on the huge amount of real estate it sits on...nobody will take that cost they'll go broke in a year. The numbers never work.
Not to mention ... there are very few ghost malls in SoCal. Ghost malls mostly happen in other parts of the country.
The same can be done with office space now that many people can work from home but god forbid anything should be done to solve a crisis. And it doesn't help that employers don't wish to have people work from home no matter how cost effective it may be
This councilman's nickname should be Mr. NIMBY.
No, it should be Mr Antoinette
Steph curry
Even if these projects go through these properties will be bought by corporations or people with already 10 houses and they will rent for higher $$. There's no true "low income" until you control these factors.
Yep. That person you just saw driving past in a 100k super car. They own 7 property’s
You've made the stupidest comment I've heard in a while.
Yup, I've been saying it for years, you want to make housing TRULY affordable don't allow people or corporations to buy up 10 houses and rent them out. Dude wants to have 2500 unit housing development... AWESOME, who's going to own the units? Absolutely not the people who are going to live there, they're all going to be renters. Fix the problem of allowing people of wealth to outbid and outprice everyone else out of the housing market and then you'll start to see those supply & demand economies start to work, not many can afford a 1.3M dollar house? Guess what that price will come down and once you start to hit a point where people can start to afford the housing... THEN YOU'LL HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING!!!!
Seriously, dude who owns the power plant property or whatever, he's trying to make affordable housing (and do note, that term varies from place to place, often it's as simple as 15% of units need to be classified as "affordable") but the reality is he wants to be a landlord of 2500 units and have a gravy train of money just pouring in every month.
Your 100% on. In my area, low-rent apartments that look like motel six have been turned into condos. They sell for about 300k payments run over 2k pr mo. There are no places available to rent because of this. Greed + ignorance = poverty
Yep. They need to do something about that.
People can't understand why crime is so high. When you got these rich folks raising prices in rent forcing people to get 2 jobs or 3, how do you expect them to raise their children when they can't spend time with them? That's why the crime rate is spiking.
Don’t pin the robberies on people with 2 or 3 jobs. Those people sleep on the off chance they get down time. It’s those people that think they deserve those pricey items that people work hard to be able to afford.
You're 100% right. Exclusionary zoning has driven minorities into poverty for multiple generations now. White people kept LA County segregated with exclusionary zoning and paved over their neighborhoods with freeways and stroads. Then criminalized poverty and drugs all in a ploy to lock up more black people. It is absolutely horrid and insidious that exclusionary zoning is allowed to continue to this day. Redondo Beach should be ashamed of themselves.
They aren't stealing food....like literally someone carjacks another and goes an a joyride and wrecks the car
@@eLouminati I believe the original comment was implying that with parents being busy working multiple jobs they don’t have time to raise to parents theirs kids and they commit crimes
You're a degenerate looking for an excuse.
you have people in California who own property and they’re buying low income housing units in New England particular Vermont in New Hampshire and then they’re popping the rent like crazy changing rules for trailer parks etc. all because they need more money….GREED
Exactly. Also Montana and Utah and Nevada and Colorado.
That's capitalism: "greed is good"
@@upland77 well said!
That is because the supply is too small and the demand is too high. More supply would lower rents.
@@upland77 it’s called slumlords, let me raise everybody rent so that way I can try to afford things that I can’t…….
Hypocrites. They are all for helping these ppl…just not in their backyard.
What surprises me about L.A. is how low the salaries are despite the very high CoL. Unless you work for FANGAM, I find most struggle to make ends meet. My best friend, who was a GM at a local tech company overseeing over 18 people, didn't make more than $75K. I interviewed for a director-level role back in 2019 where the salary was $80K tops. I had to leave CA to a much more affordable state to get paid commensurate to my skill and experience (mid-100K).
Probably depends on your field of work. For the arts and entertainment, you're going to be hard pressed to find better pay than LA County. Same goes for tech up in the Bay.
Not surprised that people leave. I've lived all over the US, and LA is hands down the most rigged and overvalued housing market I've ever seen. The median household income in LA is $65k, but the median house is $850k. Completely delusional. On top of this, CA has the highest income tax, sales tax, and gas prices. Glad they finally changed the laws to push these development projects through, but realistically it'll take decades to even out.
FANGAM, Hospitals, LADWP, and about 1/3 of the tourist biz?
@@Alterbridge321 The Golden Age of Hollywood is long gone here in LA. That was the big loss in local money supply for the Los Angeles economy.
I had to leave California to Nevada because I couldn’t afford to live here anymore. Sucks leaving friends and family but it was like I can’t w/that failed state anymore. It’s just gonna get worse as years go by.
There real hard working people that don.t make millions, that deserve nice things in life too.
Only whte people are supposed to have nice things.
No one deserves anything you gotta go out and earn it.
Yeah, I deserve a house by the beach with a pool. Let’s have Section 8 pay for it for me.
@@clownpocket most of the rich people living their were rich their whole lives and didn't earn a cent on their own.
Build your skills/value for employers or be your own boss if you have a passion for something. I think the key is to be humble in whatever your situation is and make the best of things.
"I'd rather have a barren, deactivated power plant than housing"
"Everybody deserves a place to live, the question is where do they deserve to have a place to live" 🤣
The neighborhoods in Seattle that turned hotels/motels into low income housing saw crime (violent, and property) soar over 70%. ……good luck!!
He said we’re already full LMAO
He's full of sheeeesh
They kinda are when you see the traffic. It's horrible lol
Even the New York City mayor said that we are full when they sent a few thousand illegals into the shelter system.
We are full. No more poor communists.
Pretty said we don’t want poors here lol
I used to live in a place where it was quite affordable to be really close to the beach. Then SpaceX came and out of state money came. Slowly but surely ruining it because most of my community, the people that are truly from the region, don’t make that kind of money. This gentrification is getting on my nerves. Some of us grew up with the view, we have done well, we just weren’t born into wealth or lucky enough to rise up like others. The American dream is but a dream. Big money will kick you out of your home. As a person that is of Native American and Hawaiian blood, yeah I can say that. Greed is going to ruin the world for everyone.
Greed already has ruined this world for everyone from the beginning of time.
Ah I’m sorry that happened to you
What’s your ig though
That councilor Lowen-Scheme is a liar. I've vacationed in Redondo Beach for 7 years. Doesn't have a traffic problem. Plenty of land available for development.
I think building condos for purchase will help keep out unwanted elements. I can understand wealthy residents not wanting unsavory elements in their city, but condos and luxury apartments would attract white collar workers and not criminals.
Any honest hardworking wage earner knows for a fact one can be diligent his whole life and still remain a low/mid-income person. Is it too much to ask that these people also deserve a home with a view.
In any other State. Definitely.
But not in California.
I mean yes, it is. Do you know how many millions want to have a home with a view? There are 390m people in the US, id wager 389m dont have a home with a view of the ocean...
Not even a home with a view but just a home would be nice
True.. most of those million + home owners by the beach got there from generational wealth or property inheritence. Very small percentage of them actually went from low to mid income to being able to purchase a multi million dollar property. Nothing wrong with BMRs (below market rate) most people that benefit from those programs are middle class white collar workers i.e. teachers, social workers and nurses etc. and it is not easy to apply and receive a BMR property.. Usually you are in a lottery situation for years. So more than likely it won't be low income "projects" type of people that would be moving in. I live in the Bay Area and there are parts of San Francisco that offer BMR type properties in condos that most middle class people would not be able to afford without the program. We are talking dropping the rate of a 1 bedroom condo from 600k to 300k. So you still have to make enough money to secure a loan. It's not like poor people will be moving in! More like normal average people. LOL
That's the main difference between most of the rich in this country, and the hardworking but quickly disappearing middle class. Honesty! Honest, hard working, diligent and frugal so-called "american citizens" don't deserve to live peacefully.
You'll see. Soon you'll need to be wealthy just to drink clean water in america. Luxury condos and multi-million dollar houses will be the only residences with clean, circulating air to breath and water to drink. We have made sure that only a minority of the population will be able to afford these things. If you cannot afford it your only options are crime, incarceration and death.
If your not of the rich elite you really don't deserve to be alive basically.
Wow get him out of there he could have said it better then that yikes
I used to live and work within sight of the electric plant, in the 70s. I grew up in mostly in Manhattan Beach, in the 60s. Little old ladies and men, who had 2 bedroom homes with a large yard, built in the 30s and 40s,would die off, and their houses would be replaced with multi million dollar, 2 & 3 story homes, with no yard. That happened up and down the street I grew up on. Houses in Redondo, Hermosa, Manhattan Beach, and all along the coast, are just a few feet apart. Traffic can only get worse. Infrastructure, like water and sewage, will be strained.
In other towns, like Hawthorne, and Inglewood, duplexes and triplexes were being replaced with 20 unit apartment buildings.
At some point, it's all going to break.
Well said
I grew up in North Redondo you’re spot on
its already breaking
people are living longer medication is keeping them a float. thats who lives in the buldings; growing old people. ty big pharmacy not only traffic but legit veggies driving around.
that was befor racist democrat infestation set in
🤔 So a Waterview property should only be available to people with wealthy incomes is very interesting. All I'm going to say is very soon nature is definitely going to humble alot of people who holds that mentality in CA. It's only a matter of time
You're absolutely correct!
He is essentially saying only rich people work hard, and low income people do not, and therefore they do not deserve to live in his city.
Tsunami!!! 😂
You’ve said something there…. I totally agree!
They're building low income housing all over the place where I live... and people like me that work more than full time but can't afford insane new rent prices can't live anywhere. They act like we're "rich", but can't afford apartments and housing rentals... meanwhile I'm surrounded by people (not all, but many) who sit on foodstamps and literally hang out and smoke weed all day who live in these low income places subsidized by my taxes and don't have to ever worry about rent.
The whole system is broken.
yup, can't afford regular rent, don't qualify for low income housing cause you work and have a decent job. middle class is always screwed
What makes you think that people who live in subsidized housing have not paid taxes.Have you even considered all the reasons someone could need to have subsidize hosing ?Human beings who need assistance for whatever reason pay taxes every day just like you claim too, ignorance
Sounds to me like you need to better yourself. Education or start a business
@@johnnysunrocket8618 .
Are you speaking to me ?
In the Caribbean where I'm from, our family home is next to the ocean. Trust me, it is not all that it is cracked up to be, we are the first to feel the negative side effects of storm surges.
You are better off as far away from the ocean as possible.
Problem is that too many cities in CA even inland areas demand NIMBYs
Consider the aging population in Santa Monica who refuses to build housing yet within a few years will need more supportive services. Empty schools, no new teachers, little government workers. Where are they supposed to live?
We need a nationwide "builders remedy"
and updated illegal immigration laws that are enforced to prevent over crowding, new laws that tackle foreign investors jacking up prices.etc.
low-income housing = low-income people = low-income *problems* . The councilman's comment is pompous. In fact it's an inside joke that peasants are obsessed with water. However low-income is the euphemism for Section-8 housing/projects... and the problems that come along with it...
Your first sentence is 100% correct.
Its true tho. Every low income housing area in America is a crime ridden area.
@@borginburkes1819 America is a crime ridden area
I have no problem with requiring a certain amount of relatively low-income housing in a neighborhood. I have a problem with SUBSIDIZED low-income housing in a neighborhood. That changes it from working blue collar families to welfare cases and their delinquent kids.
@@norwegianblue2017 "Low income housing" is the new euphemism for projects/section-8/subsidized.... The developer wanted to build projects.
I bet a large percentage of the people who live their either married into that socio-economic class or inherited it, so how exactly is that hard work?
And you know this for a fact...how, exactly?
@@kennethtennysfan6101 Yes. It's called hypergamy. It has existed for all of human history.
@@kennethtennysfan6101 As for the inheritance, rich people don't exactly give their money away to strangers when they pass. They all have wills.
i bet a large percentage of people who hate rich people are jealous and lazy.
Find a rich spouse and then divorce them and take it. That's one way.
I expect the “affordable” housing units will be priced above $700k / unit. This happened in my city, and that was the result.
Low income housing are rental units. You're talking about something entirely different which sounds free market, not affordable housing in any controlled manner.
Just happened here on the Central Coast too... Affordable Housing / low income worker units are staring at $700k for like a 1200 sq.ft Apt/Studio
No such thing as "affordable" prime real estate anywhere in the world. It just does not work like that.
This is why anything the government does would just make it worse because they don't know how to spend money
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP
Yep. Even in communist countries, the political elites get the nice places.
If you want something nice, work for it, contribute to society that you get a return.
Move beyond sweeping floors or digging ditches. Nobody is entitled to other people’s real estate or money.
I don’t think it’s a racial issue, more of an economic/class issue. People with money don’t want to live around people with no money.
Exactly. Rich v poor. I am middle income and have always lived in diverse neighborhoods with other middle income people. I would not want to live amongst wealthy people, I would have nothing in common with them.
Don’t be so naive. Socioeconomic issues in the United States are more often than not, tied to racial issues. It’s the image of a certain racial class from a certain socioeconomic background living amongst the current residents within Redondo Beach. You need to look deeper into City Planning and NIMBY-related ordinances from the past to understand the full picture. I’m not criticizing your intelligence or anything, but we should not be so naive to think that race doesn’t play a part it any of this. It’s sad.
@@jyc313 I agree that there is a racial component. I also think that if the the low income housing was being built for poor white people, the residents would still protest. This is the same thing that’s going on in the SF Bay Area in a place called Marin County.
Remember the old days of redlining and blockbusting? Nasty real estate practices finally outlawed in the 1960s. Middle and lower class white and black were the victims. The haves (rich) making money off the have nots. This rich beach community does not want the have nots living in their neighborhood. They have a small population of blacks living there, who undoubtedly are also wealthy.
Exactly. Which is why they pay exorbitantly for a residence. Wouldn't you?
It's not low income housing, its income base housing. you provide proof of income and they calculate it and based on your income they tell you how much your gonna pay for your home if you make more as minimum wage changes so does your rent if your income decreased you pay less you gotta get recertified every year to keep keeping your income base home if you miss your date they'll automatically take you off that program and you'll be paying regular based rent. The list for this program housing is long there is a wait.
These people are NUTS. I am a restaurant worker and world traveler, I work my butt off for everything and even then I don't demand living in the best of the best. The people in Redondo Beach are rich but not 'News Reporter' rich. So yes they have beach property but still can't afford the mansion in a gated community. These reporters have so much money, while living in gated communities, they will never need to worry about developments being built. I think they should open up some of their UN-used rooms in the gated communities they live and rent them out as individual apartments. We will see how quickly that gets shut down.
My grandfather bought his house for 30k it’s now worth over 500k but you know this generation just doesn’t know how to work hard.
Stop talking about my generation
It will be worth $2M in a few more years. I don't think working hard will solve much of anything... espeically when you have competition.
nor does companies know how to keep those few hard workers too, if management doesn't like you, you're toast
my grand mother bought a home in brooklyn, NYC for about $90K in the 80s. that's less than 3 years worth of her salary at the time. today it's worth over $1.5 million. all i have to do is make about $850,000 a year to buy the same house with 3 years of salary and have money left for income tax. easy
@@abolisher Yah, you can't measure up so of course you don't want to talk about it loser.
Low income housing in Redondo Beach is never going to happen. The city will fight it tooth and nail and tie it up in courts for years. No matter what he paid for that abandoned power company property, my guess he will lose money. Random thoughts from Australia.
Undisclosed amount, komrade.. Russian oligarchs have first dibs on Tartarian infrastructure.
Betting this will be built. 2000 of the 2500 units are meant to be market rate, so it's not all subsidized housing. California created the housing crisis, and the state is no longer blocking dense housing at the same rate.
it’s gonna happen
And…code will limit parking to force people to use public transportation…will be a mess. Lived a half mile south of the location.
Build it, don,t listen this rich people who hates middle classes houses to be built close to their houses. Keep building california
are interest rate spikes inversely proportionate to real estate market price/value?
Hunters point SF is where my 15 yr old son lives with a beautiful ocean view. He is 4th generation and high honor roll student. His father is on low income housing and has heart disease from toxins in HP. I'm 6th generation from farmworkers but am Native American and Spanish by colonization. College wasn't something showed to me so I am a delivery driver. I live in an old trailer and trying to take night classes. My son deserves to be in a good environment. Just because we are poor doesn't mean our son doesn't deserve a good education in a good area. We homeschool since opportunities are scarce and oppression is rampant.
After living in Pennsylvania where I feel half the state is dedicated towards parkland. Cali's city and suburbs are nothing but concrete
Green Space/Open Space are curse words to greedy developers.
the rich areas are not... but now everywhere is "rich" areas except the very rural ones like Tahoe National Forest (unlike Lake Tahoe the forest is rural).... even up there you got homes for half a mil that used to be worth 200k.
I live san diego 6 months year when I go back to long Island seeing trees and nature trails everywhere thrills me. I was in pitsburgh this week I read their population is decreasing. Imagine. That
There's rural and rugged land in every state, and it's not difficult to find.
My city in CA has a lot of trees and huge parks along with trails.
Don’t let people who already own properties buy these units or let them rent it.
We all know rich people
Play monopoly , purchase all the low income properties and rent them out for insane price.
Don’t allow foreign investors buy up property in this country. They are the problem.
There needs to be a middle class community add more balance to the city. More supply for the high demand of housing. As an Angeleno we need to put more people in affordable housing. People who live by the ocean need to realize other people need housing too.
THIS
If you visited the communities next to Redondo Beach like Gardena, or Lawndale, you'd know why they don't want low income people there.
True. The city has rights to who they want and what they want the city to look like. Not to mention Hawthorne
@@majestic6303 The city has rights, yet also responsibilities. If they aren’t doing their job the State will.
I lived in Redondo in the mid-1980's, on Agate Street. In a 2 bed/2 bath apartment. There was an apartment above mine, the same layout, and a single family home on the other end of the parcel - I believe it was the landlord at that time. There were many housing units just like it on Agate, with a shared back alleyway to the garages. According to Google maps today, the lot lines are still super long and narrow; but the now single family home prices are upwards of $2 million dollars. I don't see any rentals in that area at first glance. Got engaged, once upon a time, on the old wooden pier and used to enjoy dinners at that rustic steakhouse. Sad it all burned down. Hope the developer can move forward with his excellent plans for that old eyesore. Everyone deserves to have an affordable place to live and if it comes with a view, even better.
I have an idea how about we that live in the inland low income communities don't allow ourselves or any one to work for these cities let serve themselves let them fix and build themselves, unions should black list these cities and don't allow anyone to work in these cities especially for the low income jobs they have out there and or charge the right amount to kove up the chain, if I work there I would charge 7,000 dollars an hour that should start moving me up the chain in a couple of years, especially the jobs no one wants to do, clean up poop, hard labor jobs, an essential low paying jobs like food service
"We're already full' love it lol
I can't wait for the Beverly Hills Projects to get built.
If they’re voting liberal they deserve it.
Redondo Beach was my favorite place to live and I lived over most of the world. Amazing place.
Shocked to see this story on NBC. Thanks for covering this issue. NIMBY California
Great reporting. I was not aware that poor and low income citizens deserve a beach front property. I guess I’ll quit my job and apply for government assistance. Thanks.
well now you are aware.
such miserable energy omg you hate joy and happiness😭😭
"only if you can afford it"- What's wrong with that?
No kidding! Gee, I would like a 40th floor apartment overlooking Central Park too. Why is it only rich people can get that? This is the mentality we are dealing with today.
Something has to be done about the housing crisis. It’s not affordable even for professionals.
@@norwegianblue2017 because it was built for rich people. why should people who have failed miserably at life have the same things someone who's succeeded has? you're the one exhibiting the kind of mentality we're dealing with today, the commie-based 'eat the rich.'
@@maildeliverysubsystemmaile9178 start by enforcing immigration laws.
@@ryanbarker5217 yeah, there was a time when I liked scapegoating immigrants or minorities, even the lower income
Everybody has the right to work hard and save to own an "affordable" house but does not have the right to demand that somebody else pay for it.
I didn’t hear anything about these being subsidized, just rent-qualified. Builders probably get tax benefits for building the units.
@@selanryn5849 Low income by definition means subsidized. Otherwise they would be market value.
20% is bmr, chill nimby
So we should cut out all government subsidies to corporations too? After all they're people according to the SCOTUS.
Listening to Councilman Lowenstein comment that affordable & low income housing does not need to be next to the ocean is outrageous and IGNORANT! I grew up in Redondo Beach with a mixed group of people. I am 75 years old, many were new immigrants from Europe, etc. The builder is ONLY talking about 500 low income &/or affordable units. I don't understand Mr Lowensteins thinking!
This man is genesis old none use power plant yet turn it into homes thank you.
The best part at least half of it will be a big green park full of hopefully native plants and trees.
Then they cry when nobody wants to work minimum wage jobs in their city. Nobody is going to commute from Riverside County to work at a Redondo Beach restaurant as wait staff.
So they would rather have an ugly unused power plant instead of thousands of jobs (for their children) and other professionals and the tax revenue for the city? Let's be real, this developer doesn't care about affordable housing, he's using a loophole to bypass the zoning laws so he can develop luxury apartments with a few "affordable" units aka discount luxury apartments that low-income people still can't afford, and a beachfront hotel, basically create Fashion Island in Redondo Beach. The rents will likely be 4,000-10,000/mo. This has NOTHING to do with low-income affordable housing. It's just rich NIMBYs vs rich developer. Shoutout to the developer's PR team.
Blows my mind that the terminology for rent controlled units is "affordable" as in the rest of the units are *not* affordable. Smh
500 will be low income. Good luck with that.
Send them to Riverside!
That council member is gross!
Peasants are obsessed with water. He thinks he's a special snowflake because he can see water. Clearly he's never been to New Jersey 😆
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD nj is not rb your a clown
His constituents are gross as well they are all selfish sociopaths who need some hardship in their pampered privileged lives.
you people sound like commies. work harder if you want to live there
2:36. This guy just says it out loud.
"We're already full" is the biggest BS I've ever heard. Cities in Texas and Florida have 10% growth every census, but one new project here apparently will disrupt the traffic, schools, and infrastructure too much to where you can't do it. Honestly, his actions preventing new housing is almost a crime.
Admittedly, green space would be wonderful in RB. Every square inch is packed with people, stucco and concrete. It would be nice to have more parks. Torrence certainly can build on top of their myriad of single story strip malls for great mixed-use and accessible housing.
Redondo Beach also needs to stop pandering to wealthy NIMBYS and start making itself more inclusive of all people of all income levels and that includes parts of its beachfront.
@@r.pres.4121 The nature of parks are inclusive to all income levels. No one is guaranteed to live in beach front property, but all tax payers should have parks and access to the beach. I am lower-income and I lived just up the street from this ugly power plant.
We have plenty of parks. I can walk to two within 10-15 mins.
@@christinermiki3455 Same here when I lived on the corner of Flagler and Beryl up until a year ago. But the area of this power plant in particular, near the ocean, would be enhanced with a lovely park for all to enjoy green space and the ocean.
Wow, I think that everyone who worked to get what they have worked hard. That privilege was loud and clear 🙄
You think we should have low income beach front properties?
@@breadman6223 not federally mandated, no.
@@breadman6223 Why not? At point there was lower income property there, until people with more money moved in and pushed the prices up because they could afford to do so. It's interesting how one social class can dictate how things are but when the lower social class is allowed a means to be equal in terms of location, that's a problem.
@@marykeys10 I live in CA, I live in a beach community and I can’t afford a house in my home state. With that being said. I still don’t want beach front low income housing. So that is my view point.
Should we also require other places with incredibly high real estate prices to also do this? With this many houses it’s also going to require more grocery stories, public transportation ect. I like keeping these towns quieter. I don’t want to build up a ton by the ocean. We loose views, more pollution.
@@breadman6223 it doesn't all have to be there. Housing is needed in a variety of places all over this country. Reasonable distribution. I'd rather see people in homes.
I agree with the guy. If i worked up the chain to buy a nice property near the water, i wouldnt want low income properties to get built right next door. Build low income properties somewhere else where is less populated and not as expensive.
Sorry to say, but it’s the truth and if you dont agree, you are either kidding yourself, or you fall in the gen pop category.
How anyone can deny people housing is disgusting. Stop housing people for profit, homelessness doesn't need to be
This anchor for NBC sounds surprised and shocked but what you wanna bet he lives in a gated community away from poor people 😁 these people are all hypocrites 😏
I just told my white friend about this video and she says that if they let low income people down there they're going to screw up the tourism. I ask her how much she paid for rent she said $600 a month LOL lmao. I told her I said that means that you're low income. She says no no that doesn't apply to her LOL LMAO
nice cap lil bro
600! I pay 1000 for a small room with no windows 😬
@@CompaGuitarra yup it’s down in the basement. Like a dungeon!
So if someone making 200,000 living in a apartment that's 600.00 a month. That makes them " low income "?
@@sandyvonkitty Found the femceI
Reminds me of the people in Martha's Vineyard. Do as I say, not as I do.
You're horribly mistaken if you think Redondo Beach is some liberal gated community full of multi-million-dollar mega mansions. Beach towns south of L.A. were all originally for manufacturing and industry, and they pretty much all happen to be conservative. Redondo Beach isn't the prime example of what I've mentioned, but I'm counting it in.
These people need to stop restricting supply of housing, making it completely unaffordable to live in the area. That is how you destroy a city.
I see no reason why we shouldn’t give everyone the same thing, weather they work for it or not. Rewards and incentives for working and sacrificing are overrated.
I've lived around low income housing and they are terrible and always high crime areas. That little community will be police central station. The same as it is in any community.
we just need to build more housing in CA (affordable housing and medium income)
Not In my back yard
Unfortunately, from the beginning, capitalism is what ruined LA city planning. If the public transit in California would not have been bought out by GM in the 1920's, then LA's infastructure could have been built the right way to sustain large populations by high density housing planning. What should have been done is, within the city limits, multi story apartment and condo buildings should have been all that have been allowed by law. This high density housing would have made way for a flourishing public transit infastructure. If you look at European and former Soviet Union planning, this has been done for centuries this way. MOreover, this would have kept the cost of housing in California down because of a larger supply of homes.
And he wonders why traffic is so bad🙄 could it possibly be that people have to travel miles to work in his community? Jesus, these people.
I just don’t get it. If you can’t afford to live there, don’t move there and don’t live there…? It makes absolutely 0 sense to move somewhere you can’t afford.
So where do all the folks who work minimum wage who run the hotels and restaurants supposed to live. Smh
@@Tranqualthoughts in their respective areas…inland possibly… idk about you but if I work a minimum wage job I’m not going to expect to drive a Ferrari the next day. That’s not how life works or operates. You get what you can afford and you live where you can afford. No one is telling anyone who makes minimum wage to live Oceanside in CA.
If this developer builds affordable housing there, they could afford it.
@@jennyjumpjump it’s a nice theory right? Affordable housing at $2500 for a studio haha this developer just wants to line his pockets full of cash. As the literal heir to a real estate empire, I can assure you if a developer wants a project to go through, it’s not in the best interest in the people. It’s a cash grab.
@@jennyjumpjump Pasadena low income housing rent starts at $2000 a month for 1 bed room. 😂
People haven't been working their way from the inland empire to the beach in the last 17 years, actually people have been moving east in the state to afford housing. The inland empires have grown at a much faster and larger population rate than the coastal areas.
I agree with the building of affordable housing but also use some of the land to become energy efficient solar wind etc. Maybe use of some of the space to provide power for the community and some around it.
Where do you commies come from?
Council man: everybody deserved a place to live but the question is Where they deserve to live! Translation: Poor ppl should live in Inland then work their way to the beach. I don’t have one so you can’t!
Well it’s true. Deal with it
No it's not truth. The councilman could let the project go through and monitor it and this more affordable housing more taxes paid win win. Instead he's giving the developer a hard time because HE wants to that don't make him the truth just an obstacle
Councilman is clearly a devious pervert
Nimbys are the reason for all the homeless in California
Then when those units get filled, then what? I thought everyone deserves to live near the beach.
we have rich people issues we love our gardeners nannies and cheap labor but can they live far away even if they drive here and cause traffic thats ok
Really dumb idea the power grid is weak so let's close down a power plant
Make affordable housing for people who work at the powerplant and who work at the LAX airport. This will help alleviate traffic congestion, I think that would make sense. And then make it competitive for people who live inland and wants to move closer the beach... It's all about priority!
Nobody works at the power plant, that's why he wants to convert it into high cost apartments.
Joe is on the acid
@@nobodyspecial4702 Energy plant? There are other plants that operate there, there’s also Chevron, and Space X.
Our society lets people choose where they will live.
No communism. Go back to north korea
Im so thankful california has a builders remedy 🙏🙏
It really is very simple. There is a high demand of people wanting to live on the beach, making beach homes more expensive. We all may want to live on the beach, but we can't because there isn't enough beach for us all to live there. That is why there is a lack of affordable housing in Redondo Beach. There is a million other places that would be better suited for building affordable housing other than the beach.
Like Fargo!
"I stand with the homeless as long as they don't stand next to me"
I have an idea. How about housing for senior citizens. Not disabled under 65 year olds, not families with kids. Just plain old fashioned baby boomers who are retired and living on social security and maybe an additional private pension. We don't need a lot of space. We are law abiding citizens. We go to bed early. After working 40+ years and paying taxes, why can't we get a break?
Your Boomer friends in Congress won't give u a break lol 😂
Take your retirement and move somewhere affordable. Simple solution. Staying in CA on fixed income is just stupid.
@@robertmarley8852 Mitch McConnell is for the people!!!
@@robertmarley8852 Those people are older than boomers, bud.
Screw the city. Use the Builders Remedy and put the State Law to good use.
You would think the city and the residents would be happy to have the power plant gone or transformed into something more attractive and useful.
But, forget wasting a lot of space on park lands. Instead, have a dozen or so 2-acre FARMS. Real production agriculture so that residents can buy local food and even find employment at those small farms. 20 acres dedicated to food production in the middle of a city is a GOOD THING.
I agree with the guy. Housing should be built more inland but not the ghetto areas where crime is high or high drug usage. Yes people deserve housing but look at Florida post hurricane some people cannot afford to rebuild their homes or mobile homes won’t be allowed in the locations where they were swiped away or damaged from storm surges.
Don't worry when the mega tsunami hits the West coast mo one has to worry about rich and poor. Then you have the ocean rising and that would take care of the coastline for everyone
@ Kary, I agree with your comment totally. What do you think about the devastating hurricane that hit Florida? The people there were not spared from the storm because they were Rich. There are many , many that lost everything which is heartbreaking, yet they are happy to just be Alive.
@@lisanunez1225 First off Hurricane Ian didn't go after the low income people and spared people who have more money. Hurricanes don't "target" people. Everyone had the same time frame to get out and yes lots of stupid people stayed and paid for a bad decision, free will and choices. No one should rebuild in these areas unless they want to repeat lessons until they learn. The government knows climate change is here and ocean are rising so it would be so irresponsible to give government money for that. Many didn't have insurance, the right type of insurance and those who did will find out insurance is not enough to rebuild. You have building codes that have changed and what was is no longer and people hate change. People expect help at that moment and a lot will be disappointed that it's a " helping hand not where you were". There will be more intense storms maybe not this season but the next. What was before is no longer so expect the unexpected.
Imagine working so hard to afford a million dollar home in a great safe location just to be next door to little joker and big spider
You forgot Spooky Ghost and 5151 minds 😂
Somehow that doesn’t make sense to build that close to the water. It always cost way more the closer you get to the water. Not quite sure how this helps solve the problem when you’re going to be spending X amount of dollars more than if you go further inland.