Factory Tuned Supercharged Hybrid Honda CR-Z: A Baby NSX?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The Honda CR-Z is know for being a fuel efficient hybrid so what happens when Honda's performance division (HPD) adds a supercharger to the small two seater? Roman recently found out.
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All companies need to have a Factory Tuned option.
I'm sure many people would love a procharger or turbocharger on their small cars.
i guess ppl forget it was meant to be a sporty commuter car not meant to compete against a mustang camaro wrx brz
Ill race a Camaro, and I bt he'll give up before we get to the light. CHALLENGERS AND BENZES TOO FRFR
They made it have the power it should have had all along. It's a great car now!
Honda should revamp their marketing team and strategy
This should have sold this with different power trains.
This should have been sold as the CRX (To link it to its original heritage)
Have the Regular NA Engine = Si
Have the top of the Line regular Engine = SiR (the Original top of the range Badge) and leave the kids with their Type R
K engine (NA) special version with a 10,300 Red Line (Only avail on the CRX)
Have the regular Hybrid version = HF (Hybrid Fuel Efficiency orientation)
Have the Hybrid with Supercharge = HP (Hybrid Performance orientation)
Mmh.. I guess the problem with that is obviously honda is in retirement mode right now... I mean look at their NSX! Its like they took the ENTIRE performance engineering team on all models and forced them to engineer every single part of the new NSX: every other car, they needed engineers so they hired 3 engineers and 2 anti-emissions charity managers...
Also, the CRZ uses the honda fit engine, and so they should've called it the fit SI since thats basically what it is: a Honda Fit coupe. Next, the actual CRZ should've been STOCK with a very small supercharger for 160PS! And finally, the K20 engine version would be the Type R with 230-250hp depending on the revision year.
If you did research they would have put a K series engine in this but do to regulations they changed it last minute
I've got to give Honda credit for offering hybrids with manual transmissions. Too bad their marketing didn't mention it when they needed to.
One of my biggest gripes about hybrids, especially the ones *claiming* to be sporty, is the automatic transmissions. If you can't make an engaging, involving car, you can't sell me a car. Cars cost thousands of dollars, and for me to spend all that money I have to *like* the car. An automatic is out of the question.
When the CR-Z was advertised the first thing I noticed was the weird styling. Yes, weird. Not cool, not funky, just weird.
The next thing I noticed was the power figure. 130hp was great for a little CRX weighing 1800 lbs...
I don't remember them saying anything about a manual transmission.
Now that I know about that, I wonder if Honda will offer a stick-and-clutch hybrid again. If they do, and if they don't suck at marketing this time, that car will actually be on my radar.
6:01 - hello there RSX
I honestly think that every CRZ should come like this, or at least make this the si model Cuz this is wicked cool and I'm not even a total CRZ fan
"Sure, we can edit that out," then doesn't edit it out... Cool car though. Unfortunately not competitive on price with the expensive mods. Wonder how much you could save by using aftermarket parts instead.
You posted this comment 5 years ago. I priced a factory supercharger and a car today. 2011 base CR-Z in immaculate condition, with a stick, and 96,000 miles $7,500. Factory supercharger is $4,500. 12,500 for the car toady. That's a steal.
Always liked the CRZ as compared to other little commuters. Wouldn't even think of it as a hybrid really "looks wise"
YES a SUPERCHARGED, MANUAL HYBRID. I'm buying
All those who factor cash in are missing the point, take a niche car, add boutique performance parts, you get a beautiful and fun car that retains most of the fuel efficiency, a giant boot... Putting money to get something more exclusive and rare, that returns pleasure... This is the point. all the other people get a Megane, a Focus, a Civic, whatever. My 2011 cr-z with JRSC and Spoon brakes is great fun, what is missing from mine is the "factory" clean and tight, almost silent feel. A modified car will never reach a direct factory car in cost. If Honda makes a type S or R out of the CR-Z it will be less money just because you don't have parts to replace. This is still a unique car with no direct comparison or competition. And nothing replaces its sketch : the look of it : classy, sharp, low, compact, space shuttle feel .
I'm not sure that you can legitimately call the CRZ a baby NSX ...although it is a small, overlooked hybrid
why not just put the si engine and call it good
honda, what hapend 2 u, u used 2 b cool😐
That's what I was thinking too but is it possible?
+Anhelito Ten yah, there is a company that does si swap into cr-z, they renamed it krz, it's a k20 engine,
@uhsen I saw that it looked pretty beast but it's around $10,000 since it's really complicated Honda should of just did what Toyota did and have a simple car (BRZ) but make it easy to modify
Then you lose the low end electric torque and drive modes. Why not just buy a civic si and call it good?
It's pretty cool considering its a hybrid
I like the CR-Z but to be honest the guy had my full attention when he kept adjusting his cap, was he nervous?
I'm saving many pennies to build a K-Swap CR-Z. It's how I feel the car should have been and it's just more stylish to me than another K-Swap EG Hatch. Motor will fit well but the wiring will take some brain work I really want to keep the stock dash components.
Did you ever do it?
These things are gorgeous
looks good on the streets
that guy gets paid serious money to never listen to anything people actually want (hint new s2k)
Dead on.......wonderful project. I would get a Fiesta ST. Honda should have a non hybrid CR-Z. A nice N/A 1.6 160 hp 2400 pounds. It would be faster, lighter and more efficient than the hybrid CR-z.
baby nsx? barely dude
NSX employs the same tech with its hybrid battery being used for performance. this just doesn't have AWD...it is a baby nsx in terms of the way the tech is being used. This car should've given us a taste of NSX back in 2010
+Jacob Evans I agree. Sit in an CR-Z and you'll see where the digital gauges evolved from. The cockpit of the CRZ is amazing, it's one of the reasons I bought my Milano Red.
Nsx costs over 10x as much, of course its barely an nsx. Just same concept
Such a unique badass car
Honestly i just wish it could've met the usa standers for rear seats in the euro car it had rear seats. They should remodel it a bit and get rear seats in at least enough that kids could fit comfortbly and put the new L civic engine in it with a hybrid but for the most part i guess most ppl would just opt for the civic hybrid anyway. Great car but was flawed for many people the crz was really only good for high school kids or people who didn't have kids and didn't want more then one other person in the car with them or delivery drivers. Great car but needed a turbo from stock like the new 10th gen civics and just big enough to have "rear seat" i feel like the civic hatchback is really close to a crx other then the 4 doors. If you made it into a smaller 2 door and call it a crx and you could even turn it into a sporty crx hybrid. But then again most people don't want two doors anymore.
I've always wanted a CRV for a daily driver, this one seems like the one haha.
6:00 that Dc5 casually strolling by
I'm a huge fan
Any chance you guys can change the opening sound to something less harsh and sudden? Just wondering if you guys have thought or heard that before.
This guy works for Honda? While I don't think the CR-Z is a great car, I could have pitched this better. The FiST vs CR-Z answer he gave was cringeworthy..
And don't get me started on the CONSTANT adjusting of his cap.
RUclips Aneesh I'd like to see the Honda Fit with the supercharger though... the power to weight ratio should be awesome!
Lol I believe the adjusting cap constantly was a clear sign of uncomfortable and or nervous.
RUclips Aneesh He's just being candid. How else would you describe the CR-Z? It's definitely not sporty when compared to the Fiesta, nor is it powerful enough.
I think he feared dying. Way to go Roman, imagine if it was that speedy Nate?
Lying when touching his hat.
Honda , Please !!!!bring back the CRX with a standard or auto tran, none of that electric dual clutch or CVT electric assist BS. You could be making the best hot hatch ....I would totally buy it
Just change the CR-Z to what you said. Many would buy
Keep the CR-Z make the hybrid an option, give us a normal gas powered 4 cylinder, and make it slightly bigger so people 6 ft and over can actually get in it.
David Maglioli that too.
I want this so bad
Why not offer this on the si back the day? Such a missed opportunity 😊
I wish Subaru would offer warranted performance parts like this. SUBARU UNEQUAL HEADERS PLEASE......
I'd wait for the next gen. Should come turbocharged from the factory.
+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials As much as you and I know that they could and SHOULD, you & I know that isn't the route it's going to go
bodhifyer I read that they're ditching the hybrid unit for a smaller engine and a turbo, so the mpg will be the same or better.
+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials i read that as well, but i feel as tho honda wont give us americans that amazing 2.0 liter. At best maybe the 1.5 turbo for the civic will go in, hopefully that might be fun but ill hold judgement until the specs come out
+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials it's the same displacement 1.5L but with a turbo. It's probably the same 176hp that powers the new Civic
I'd take that. Like a modern CRX SiR.
I feel like I'm chiding a small child whenever someone revs a Honda engine. "Bad Honda. No. You don't do that. No one likes that."
I came from the future and Hyundai did it to their veloster. Take a bigger more powerful engine from the sonata, tune it for the track, and stuffed it into their lightest platform the veloster.
Is it in the future still build by people that are not getting the normal wages what people earn in the automotive industry, so the car can be sold cheaper.
so, $35K for a car that performs less than a stock BRZ or Camaro which are $5-8K less. too bad you couldn't just get the turbo as a standard feature or trim line.
They should have put in a more powerful electric motor for more instant torque and thus acceleration, and have it drive the rear wheels for a 4WD hybrid sports car.
Kinda like a mini LaFerrai/P1/918
+The Lavender Town Project
crz owner here, and i find this comment very accurate.
the problem is honda in US is trying to market this car as a sports car, which it is not. but you can rape a lot of 150-160hp diesel/gas cars if you know how to use it.
4wd would bring the price very high but rwd would be fun. Still handling and dynamics of the car still exceptional. it is just you cant stop thinking what would happen if youd really get the real potential of the IMA engine inside. It is restrcited to protect the battery.
and the price of it is ridicilously low on Turkish market, if anyone is interested go for it. you will always have a smiling face when driving it.
+The Lavender Town Project you know what would be even better. A k20 swap. Thats what honda should have done in the first place
Project Nightmare 🤦🏾♂️just stupid
do the electric motors help the gas engine with the power? the car would be alot quicker if it did.
cloud chaser yes
There is an extra battery that assists the engine with certain things. for sure gives it more torque. The car isn't terribly fast by any means (unless you turbo charge it) but it sure picks up quick when needing to pass or take off. the battery also helps with gas efficiency. as of right now I am getting 39MPG average in my 2015 Manual 6 speed, and I always drive in Sport mode. That's pretty damn good.
They should really update the hybrid powertrain for this car instead of just equiping the supercharger bolt on. Spending $5 grand to up the performance kills the one of the best aspects of this car which is it's value proposition.
What are the approximate performance figures (0-60mph, max speed) on a supercharged CR-Z? Thanks in advance.
I think stock it’s like 8.5 0-60 or something for a cvt so probably shave at least a second off that ?
I would rather get the civic si . For 23k 205 hp
The whole video and no view under the hood come on lol
Baby nsx? That title goes to the s660
Supercharger kit from honda is too expensive
This is how a Honda should be! I'd still get a Veloster Turbo, because it's better in all aspects, my opinion. :D
You think this is a good Honda? Also, you think the fucking Veloster Turbo is a good car? I think you should do some research.
Lesbian
@@stupidmonkez it’s good to know that, even before the car community trend happened during the pandemic, the car community was always toxic as shit
I could see a more viable option being to modify a used CR-Z, and skip the Honda bullshit.
i want that center exit so bad for mine😭😭
Add a lot of power, should probably get more stopping power... Even though, 0-60 in 10 seconds vs 0-60 in 3 seconds, still means stopping from 60-0... it doesn't make the car heavier, or change anything about the car other than the fact that it's faster. Stopping from 60, 80, or even 100MPH is still the same as if the car had 95HP...
$10K worth of parts and still under 200HP - LMFAO
Probably when its said in done, you will have a $35-$40k Car running 15 second 1/4 runs when you can go buy a Subaru STi
It's running a sprintex? Wouldn't be making 193hp is maybe 165hp
I don't think the Honda guy has been in a fast car before.
just get the wrx for 25k easy .....
+renato muu so true
Stop, No i wont get wrx poor quality subaru
i think that's the first time i've heard of a subaru being poor quality.
+CarEnthusias Ber i wouldnt say poor quality, but i will say they are wayyy too common now adays and not as cool as they used to be, it seems like every 20 somthing year old douchbag has one and there everywhere i look. i rather have somthing more one of a kind and made fast by me, not by the factory!
*cries inside that my country will make me pay triple for all these things...*
Not worth the money...
Good Leadership. price cluttered What's your opinion about it, guys 11
buy a crz with a beat up engine drop a k20 into that + sc kit and it will be a monster
This is the best advice and what I tell all the owners, it's reliable and gets you 250+hp on motor without massive tuning
how fast 0-60
They should just do a turbo Si CRZ with suspension upgrades, brakes etc to keep the cost down. If you upgrade to this car you pay 2x for tires, 2x for brakes...since you don't get the old tires and brakes! Very foolish deal here.
With everything bolted on and a top model car to begin with this thing would be knocking on 35,000 bucks. Im sorry but that in insanity. Get it under 30K all kitted out and it would be a much better proposition.
This thing's a 2-seater? Holy hell I thought it was 2-door four-seater, looks can be deceiving haha.
Dodge Durango Actually, outside of the U.S., the CRZ is a 4-seater, but barely. It wouldn't meet government head restraint standards (no headrests!). They basically took out the seat cushions and belts, and left the fold-down part.
+cadsux Oh wow, that's so weird but then again it makes sense lol, thanks for the information
could they do this to any cars purchased from honda?
Internet- Hey Honda make something different! Honda- *makes crz* Internet- No, Not like that, give it power! Honda-*makes supercharger*Internet- No no no you just dont get it! *Buys GTI* Honda-(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
TAKE THAT ENGINE COVER OFF AND LETS SEE THAT SUPERCHARGER!!!!
This car needs a lighter frame, and a better battery. It's a step down from the 2015 Civic. There is no point in the battery if it doesn't actually save you millage.
Stock exhaust ???
2018 New CRZ will be TURBO and look like the NSX and Type R! Japan just released update on google!
Mike Smith link?
The recent update by honda is they are not producing the crz but instead only the honda civic type r with over 300 hp! sorry:)
OK. I did research this, on RUclips. And, there are stock manufactured CR-Z models that are supercharged. I only wonder how it would affect fuel economy.
its discontinued, replaced b the honda civic 305 hp:)
Chris Leon no link. He is a full of shit
Civic type R!
This is a very interesting car. I wonder what the " Boring Honda " brigade make of it ?
***** I don't understand how a hybrid can be boring. It's state of the art engine technology, with excellent on-road performance. You're obsessing about numbers instead of driving enjoyment.
***** How about Ferrari, Porsche and McLaren ? Get back to your pushrods and live axles, you knuckle dragger.
That Honda employee should be sacked. Could he have shat on his car any more?
I swear if he takes his hat off and readjusts it again I swear to god.
A whole 197 hp? Wow. [/SARCASM]
197 hp is actually pretty good in a 2700 lb car. That's significantly better power-to-weight than a gt86 for example. Most modern cars that have over 200 hp weigh 3500 lb or more.
How does He not know what HFP means? Lol
FR CRZ IS BETTER.. HONDA SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT. CRZ IS NOT SELLING.
I hate honda but I'd buy this lol 😂
The NSX is insulted, i feel for him.
You must be going to some horrible tuners then. Tuned cars aren't what they used to be. Most times it feels even better then factory. I imagine you can squeeze out more power out of that supercharger with a better tune.
5 k for supercharged lol 😂 ., nooo thank u 🏃🏻♂️ 💨
I rather get nissan 370z Sport that cost $33K
This is 10k less tho
you have to put 10-15K in upgrades for it to be comparable.
cvt with a supercharger huh?
+Mike Rotchburns this one has a 6 speed manual
we say 35K+ for a new one forgetaboutit LOL I think the new civic for a lil more is a better value, but IMO still over priced. I don't care what car companies are asking for there cars that doesn't make it worth the cost. It's only worth what some1 is willing to pay end of story.
I believe there is a reason I have never seen one of these on the roads. It literally fits no market, unless you are filthy rich and have money laying around. So I guess it fits the 1% market, which 99,9% of them wont buy one of these, completely pointless for the price tag.
MrGovenator1 I see CR-Zs often but I own one so I'm going to notice them more. Maybe they're also just a lot more common here in WA where people seem to love hybrids (and unfortunately, that means mainly the Prius). I think they're a nice car--very cheap ($20k base model) yet quite fuel efficient without having to sacrifice all the fun of driving. It is quite an in-between car. Usually those wanting fuel efficiency go all the way--they ditch the manual transmission for a more efficient CVT, and they also expect the practicality of backseats and maybe 4 doors. Those who want more of a thrilling driving experience get a car that's faster and more geared toward high performance and not high MPG.
***** I see the CR-Z quite often too, but its the Honda performance parts that make no sense. A CR-Z with all those performance parts cost significantly more than my WRX, so its totally pointless. Because every video I have seen with the CR-Z with the extra bits, they never really have any thing good to say about it. The parts just don't warrant the cost.
We are getting the 300hp type r in the us in a year or so. Why would anyone buy this, its even more expensive.
Honda marketing fail
As a former owner of a Honda CRZ is a terrible sports car he had 60/40 weight distribution. And it's so loud on the highway it's deafening.. I sold it and bought a Volt which was actually quicker, quieter and more efficient
Loud?!?!? On Sport mode, it barely makes much noise, even less than a regular Civic. In ECON mode, it's barely there but definitely an exhaust note compared to a Prius. I won't call a CRZ loud by a long shot.
Pick up a shitty one with a good interior and swap the motor, ditch the stupid hybrid crap, bolt ons, turbo or procharger (superchargers for an engine that's not at least a v6 is not worth the cash)
1:20 LIES
Looks like Rancho Santa Fe?
Porsche ferrari copied them since it was out few years before it.
what a fucking joke $35k for a Honda cr-z? for less than that you can buy a used faster better driving machine.
sillymobile
Its a nice car but I don't see anything about it that makes it stand out. really not that powerful, not that fast, decenteconomy
The more I look at this car, the more I think about why did Honda make this awkward looking car. It just doesn't fit on the market.
***** For most of their cars, yes. For this one, I just don't see it yet. I can't say it's going to the path like the Insight did but we'll just have to see how this goes. It's very rare of where I live. I've only seen 3 so far.
Crap ! could buy and after market supercharger for about $2000 and get 200 hp.
VP of PR just talks a lot of babble.
$5000 FOR A SUPERCHARGER?
I could buy a whole supercharged car with that money and it'll be faster than this useless, overpriced garbage.
+kirbyswarp tell me how for 500$ and an afternoon and you can swap an LS1 in anything in an afternoon next.
***** I never said anything about an LS?
+kirbyswarp then you have an unreliable piece of shit. this still has hondas warranty.
RJ Echols Yeah, a 3800 S/C is unreliable...
Waste of time and especially money.
A stupid car that does nothing particularly well.. not fast, not super efficient, not good looking, not practical not even inexpensive.. :\
Sigrafix I'm wondering why you get 12 likes, but then again it's Americans
+INUMIMI28 What's so great about the CRZ? A sport hybrid sounds awesome. but then they made a car that's class-average in fuel economy and at the bottom of the class in power. I like the styling myself, inside and out...... except for the fact that there's room in the back for seats and instead there's a stupid plastic storage bin. To top it off it's not even like it's really cheap.
Also, can I ask where you're from? Really curious to hear about this nation that's so much better then the United States. If everyone has your demeanor it can't be a very nice place to live!
Samuel Rs Japan sir, the nation that knows more things other than power to enjoy the car life, and the king of automotive technologies
+Sigrafix all opinions lol
INUMIMI28 Japan isn't the king of anything with cars anymore. They make generally slow and boring cars except for the NSX these days, and that's $100k+ so basically they have nothing exciting for the average buyer.
If you think a 205HP car that "corners well" or a 190HP car that looks great makes it a great performance car, then you're mistaken. Are you Japanese? Maybe this is the thinking that's making Japanese cars the least fun to drive in the whole auto industry.
Well, it's a baby NSX if the NSX got super drunk one night and fucked a 1960s Lada and this popped out 9 months later.
OK, it's not that bad... but like EVERYTHING "sporty" that Honda makes these days it's 90% sporty-look, 10% sporty-performance, and at $35k it's 100% unreasonably priced. Want to make it a sporty looking hybrid? Great, then design it so it has better then class-average fuel economy. Want to make a sporty-performance hybrid? Great, drop the fuel economy pretense and make it better then the bottom of it's class. $20k isn't bad but for that price, drop the stupid plastic cubbys and add some damn back seats. Essentially; decide on one design philosophy and don't try to be the jack-of-all-trades (aka the Pontiac Aztec).
Ricer alert, jk
"Sure, we can edit that out," then doesn't edit it out... Cool car though. Unfortunately not competitive on price with the expensive mods. Wonder how much you could save by using aftermarket parts instead.