Remember growing hearing: "If you dont go to college and do good in school, you'll end up like that person." And they always referenced a blue-collar worker of some sort.
This just goes to show how elitist America truly is, teaching kids that blue-collar workers are human trash and the only way to go is a four year degree followed by an office job.
@@ashleyconnor8891 Assuming that "voting against one's self-interest" is a fallacy, why do you think that most blue collar worker choose to not work under a union?
About half blue collar work is awful but theres a whole half making good money who enjoy their work. Mfs just assume any blue collar work is awful for 0 reason
@@xcaliberVirus I remember that when I graduated in 71. I did poorly in school and went in the military as the draft was still going on . I excelled as an avionics technician and got out after 4 years. I worked a few jobs where I grew up and moved to Alaska. I used my electronics knowledge in the oil field. In 81 I maxed out on Social Security contributions by the middle of the year. I’m sure glad I didn’t waste four years sitting in a classroom and paying for it.
1900s - Do you breath? Good! Here’s an outstanding salary! 2000s - You need a degree to get a good salary 2010s - You need a degree and AT LEAST 1 internship for a good salary 2020s - You need a degree, a minimum of 2-3 certifications, 3 internships, 7 part time jobs, 25 projects, and be less than 22 years old in order to get a good salary
That's because current businesses are not placing any value into those degrees. A lot of the courses and current curriculum are outdated and no longer relevant in today's workforce. If anything, it needs a huge revamp and fix a lot of things that is no longer benefitting the student and the business. Businesses are also to be at fault, because they no longer want to train the new hire or they don't use what the school is teaching students. I still believe that college is very important (and also consider how terrible Americans are ranked in academics throughout the world and how dumber they are getting) and we should be educated in every aspect. So that we can be inventors instead of consumers.
I partly agree. I absolute crap jobs graduating in 2008. Once I finally started to earn a decent management job most college grad probably could achieve with some luck starting 2015. I got a graduate degree. Does it have value maybe, but would I get to Director based on a network I got from that college. yes. So results may vary. Connections> than degree alone.
@scorpionzz885 For the price, yeah, and I think universities need to be more transparent about that. But even the "junk" degrees like economics have value (even though they don't really lead to a career outside of academia). I was shocked that a lot of people don't actually know things that I thought were pretty basic. We really just need to bring the price down. The education is important, and will help you in the long run. We just need to stop saddling kids with hundreds of thousands dollars of debt.
only a fool would go to college for an office job with a liftime of debt even if it pays $30 and hour $15 to $20 will be taking out to pay for student lones for the rest of your life
What do you mean by "not ready for entry level positions"? Entry level positions is about not being ready!!!! that's why they call it entry level!!!!!!
Even entry level jobs have a level of expected skills and qualifications (e.g., knowing how to read and write). I think the problem is that graduates don't even have such qualifications.
you name it: 1. go to work late 2. put on pajamas 3. find excuses to not be late / not do any work. 4. brag about shit of course they're unprepared because college never teaches these skills.
Because the employers don't want to pay for training, they demand a degree and let the potential employee pay the tab. Then they complain when the college, who doesn't exist to train employees but to provide an education, doesn't train their people the way they want.
I can understand a business not wanting to spend money to train people, just to have them leave and take that education with them. Loyalty is dead on both sides.
@@ashleyconnor8891why would they leave if you pay them well? Oh yeah… it’s because they don’t pay well, isn’t it? But thank god the CEO got his $8 million bonus this quarter.
College is not workforce training. Employers have to be aware that new hires will have to be trained. Maybe they should start offering longer contracts if they are so worried about employees jumping ship.
There needs to be much more cooperation between colleges and businesses in keeping up to date with exactly what skills they need to have, and if they can't get certain skills at the college, the businesses need to offer a means to learn through internships/training. If i had my way, i don't think colleges should be accredited to give degrees unless they're basically handing graduates off to businesses upon graduation. Of course there's nuance to everything, but if people are starting to feel degrees are worthless and expensive, then it might as well be true. No more "empty learning" unless someone is personally taking courses for their own enrichment or hobby; not for degree seekers -> job seekers
@davedsilva exactly. The purpose becomes purely monetary gain for the colleges themselves rather than for genuine education or productivity. But at the extremes of this, the degrees become worthless as they mean nothing, and all the "education" leading to the degree can be hollow and meaningless as it doesn't matter as long as the college earns money. But at this extreme, education is now a broken system that poses no value to society and does not justify its costs. The current situation is people are now doubting the value of college, a very dangerous situation for colleges.
lol colleges take advantage of students by taking their money and giving them a useless degree with no job prospects. like the job itself that has a ton of requirements for a good candidate the student should make a job offer a requirement for attending the college or else no deal. time to tough up on college and not let them profit off at the expense of naive students leaving them in debt AND no job.
But employers don't want to pay anything, so they shoo you off to college. But like you said, the employer and the college are on different pages as to their expectations
@@draneym2003 I started working in 1991 at 16 making $4.25 I bought my home in 1997 making $6.50 payed it off at 42 making $13 now at 49 Im semi retired with no debts never went to college
The American dream (half century ago) used to be walk in, ask to see the manager, the only question is "when can you start?", and one income with only a high school education can support a family. You're wearing a tie? Clearly manager material!
I didn’t go to college. I joined the military for 4 years when the draft was still going on and got a good education in electronics. I started making over 60k a year in 1980 and more than doubled that by 2000. Thank you Uncle Sam.
They aren't "overqualified" - they are over-credentialed in worthless degrees. Qualifications are determined by the employer NOT the university. Unless you have a degree in the big three 1. medicine/healthcare, 2. lawyer/paralegal or 3. engineering, you are literally clowning yourself with debt
most people go to college to be a regular office worker making $35 an hour minus what comes out to pay for student loans then your only making $12 an hour
Fortunately for the US economy it's so large it nearly spans a whole continent. Otherwise it might end as the economy of Italy. Because Italy's employers emphasize experience so much they underpay young graduates so much that many of them leave the country and many of them just never return which leads to the paradoxical situation of extreme youth underemployment AND crippling skill shortages.
yeah american companies are laying off their workers while also being bloated with senior executives, HR departments but severely lacking in people that do actual work.
The new book The Bubble That Broke The Bank argues that by 2026 we will experience a major deep recession. The coming collapse of the real estate market and a golden horde of AI workers will mean you will not get a job for at least 3 years. Run fast, Dick and Jane.
@@aname4390as a Russian, I strongly disagree with you. Most qualified jobs require a bachelor's degree, which takes 4 years here, but a lot of people from my educational program already work in BigTech jobs. Furthermore, most universities cooperate with companies, so it's pretty impossible to be jobless if you get your degree in a good university.
Partly true. The major, the amount of student debt, the school reputation and network help with finding a job. Good school with right major and little debt can lead to good job. Bad degree from for profit school and lots of debt means trouble.
He already said that. If it isn't a degree in law, medical, engineering, business administration, or technology then it's a waste of time and money. Go to trade school
For the most part it is a scam nowadays. But certain degrees are not. Nurses for example is well worth the education, BUT! It's too expensive and too time consuming that it will burn you out. Its just not feasible to go for college education in this broken and expensive economy when you have to work constantly, provide for your love ones and pay bills. It's just too much risk and time used for college in this day and age. It's just not worth it - even when certain professions are. Jobs and companies need to wake up and get rid of old way of thinking. If not jobs deserve to die out.
I couldn't agree more, from my personal experience. College is good for educating you as a whole, as a human, but it gives you zero specific skills need in the real job market.
I think about half of the people in the comment section are wrong about college. As a college graduate, I can say that there are a lot of people who go to college for the education, not the booze and the partying. In fact, there wasn't any booze or partying at my online college. Just studying. I majored in IT/Software Development, which was touted as a money-making degree. But every legitimate job opening I saw in that field required 5+ years of professional, non-internship experience. There was a lot of competition for the few legitimate entry-level positions I saw. The other entry-level "job openings" were scams. I do not regret pursuing my degree, as I believe that, if money is your only motivation for college, then college is not for you. I learned a very important life skill in the course of my degree. That would be independent strategic thinking, which included training myself to do things rather than relying on others to train me. That skill has helped in many life situations, even in those I wouldn't expect.
Look, the whole college-will-give-you-a-great-career thing is long over. Originally, universities had nothing to do with getting a job; it was to prepare the "gentry" to enter "proper" society. Somewhere around the early 20th century, the condition of a human's relation to economic output was at the state where college would prepare someone for higher paying work. The nature of the economy has changed. However, bloated, narcissistic universities have become addicted to the trough of easy money through the NEVER-should-have-been-implemented government student aid program, where basically, if you have a pulse you qualify for funds. So, to keep the money river flowing, the powers that be still preach everyone needs to go to college crap. In addition to that, the standards have been dumbed down so much making it more pathetic of an endeavour than it was just based on oversupply. That hasn't been the case for decades. The trades are paying better than college grads in the 2020s since the college elitists have put them down as "inferior work," and with the public duping into this, has created massage shortages of trade workers. Universities have basically just turned into money-grubbing propaganda pushing machines. The End of Work as We Know It The End of Work as We Know It | davsmithjo
Honestly, I do regret wasting time and years in college because now I cannot find any employment due to the fact that artificial intelligence can do basically my job. 😢
I was an electronics technician for over forty years and near the end of my work career I could pretty much engineer what I needed to modernize equipment by just doing research on the internet. I learned to do a lot of engineering tasks just by self learning including learning some advanced math. I was even approached by one company I worked for to use my experience and knowledge to get a PE certification in the state I live in. Electrical Engineers sit at a desk all day and techs get to play with all kinds of test equipment and circuits.
College can partly help with uniformed government positions. Military, police and fire will pay slightly more for applicants with degrees. Caveat is that applicants must also be healthy, athletic and not have a criminal record.
I am surprised employers even want people to have a college degree. It sounds like colleges are not teaching what companies want to see in potential candidates(4:58).
The problem with education is that it is too long to the point that kids were sometimes became too old that they can only work in a company just for a few years before retirement not to count those that get a degree such as masters degree & doctorate. I mean I think most people will agree with me why not just remove senior high school after highschool just go to college take OJT & work.
Some Employers they ask for higher level qualifications and masters degrees, but then one would need to train for higher level positions, what may happen, someone has higher level qualifications, won't get "trainee" or "entry level" position , because now employer says "too over qualified" , they think all sorts of things, employers thinking this person would they ask for more salary, would they leave for something with more salary, and better prospects.
Not easy when you have student debts and can't qualify for loans because of lack of a job..unless you have a private creditor or investor it's simply not possible.
I saw a 4chan meme about a guy wanting to start a basic septic tank replacer company. All he needs to operate is a van, shovel and parts. The bureacracy associated with starting the business? He wouldve needed around 400k in loans to actually pay for the all the licenses. Its a joke
Instead of going to college and getting married I decided to work, get a girlfriend, raise our son together and we just bought a house! There were a lot of people that thought we wouldn’t stay together let alone purchase a home. College is great, but not everyone wants to go!
Degrees aren't worth the money colleges/universities charge. 75% of the students don't belong in college in the first place. Colleges/universities churn out grads that can't even read and write, let alone do math. Pressure is on professors to pass everyone so that their paychecks continue to flow. If you pick a major in some "obscure" field, don't expect to find a job. Damn few students have "potential" for work other than the "potential" to use cellphones, show up late to work, leave early, take time off, whine and complain constantly, and then quit. They are no investment; they are a bona fide liability.
118k for college is wild💀 I paid 32k and got a job WHILE in school and paid off my debt in the first year. If you go the post secondary make sure the program has integrated work terms. Three 4 month fulltime work terms and was able to continue part time through school. Came out with 2 years of work experience before I graduated.
A lot of truth here but super one sided. At the end of the day, a college degree shows employers that someone is willing to stick things out. There's real value there despite the problems.
Companies requiring a degree are an insurance policy for them to ensure you stay because you need a job to pay off the debt. It’s indentured servitude.
that depends on what college you go to what you study and the annual tuition cost of the school say your studying business related fields at Penn Warton business school or NYU Stern School of business the later starts at roughly 91,000 a year
I got a BA in the social sciences. Do I work in that kind of field today? No. But the BA helped me get my foot in the door for entry level position and land interviews. At the time what I leaned in on were my grades and my writing abilities. Most employers at the time seemed to be receptive towards those things but I’d imagine times have changed since then
Depends on what you major in. Engineering, education, nursing, or other medical industry have a higher chance of landing you a job. History, Art, Psychology, etc. might as well plan to go get a masters and try to get a college teaching job.
People who need jobs start at high school and work their way up. College is for rich daddy to brag to their friends about the kid’s degree they never had then send their useless kid on vacation , away from the family business 😂 If anyone really wants a job nowadays they get into General Labor then Skilled Labour $100K careers.
Trades! But, not all trades pay well, either. Skilled labor/trades have been affected by oversaturation in certain ttades and illegal immigrants low balling American citizens and residents! Also, non-union trades low ball their employees!
@@Jonathan-e9qreason my family wants me to go to college is because a lot of them didn’t 😓 And the very few that did don’t go into full detail of what to do…”just go and don’t ask questions” I’m probably not going altogether oh well
College is only a waste if you went for a degree that isn’t worth anything, and for a degree in something that doesn’t have a high demand in job positions after you graduate. If you go for something that is not in high demand or people continuously ask you what it is when you mention it, chances are that it will be a waste to get that degree.
Yeah, just go and read the bachelor thesis proposals of your average college graduate in economics. You’ll see no actual economic analysis applied. All the buzz and fuzz of studying “hard” courses and passing tough exams just doesn’t translate to real quantitative skill those students can use to produce actual conceptually sound analysis
Quality of education is low in my country too, but at least it’s not nearly as costly as in the USA. So I don’t exactly feel scammed. In fact, I appreciate how much I’ve grown over the years, I have 1 more year to learn and change as much as I can.
I think the problem is expecting the individual to pay for their own education. Education used to be funded from the state. I think we need more state funding and to apply lean to universities.
College is quite similar to a sheep, cow, goat, or mother's milk. Preferably you would accept instruction. It is difficult to replace college, it has replaced conscription to the military. Should we say that many young adults have developed too slowly? We could say this under age 40 behavior is dismal, immature, and needs to be able to do anything at work. And I'm just going to do it. People may even be complaining college is a learning disability. So how can the new program be designed?
Why do you think they are letting in immigrants? Cheap labor. A college degree is only required for professions. Lawyers and doctors absolutely require a degree. Not so much an engineer, scientist, educator, and so on.
It’s also credentialism, globalization, and especially LinkedIn and other job boards that ruined the job market and even more so what else has ruined the market is companies destroyed the whole concept of company loyalty. They want you to stay loyal but they also frown on you going from company to company to increase your salary and job title.
No, we need more people to have collage degrees, its good for the government, its good for companies to have employees, not everyone is allowed to be free financially. In others words, its a modern slavery. Think about this, even with a collage degree, you will still in 9 to 5 job...And from my experience, 9 to 5 is just like that, slavery, slavery... Anyways, its all good guys, lets get a college degree, and live the rest of our days like NPC in this world .
Thé experience problem coule be fixed with personal projects about réal World problems specially if You're in computer science. if You're in other fields, try to be a volunteer in a compagny you that excels at the field you want. At least you'll get to talk to profession ales there
I understood very early on that this was all BS but I do enjoy gaining knowledge in areas that fascinate me. I wish I could go to college just for the sake of my personal interests...
I can tell you are a conservative who is threatened by people waking up to injustice because they are college educated. No, the colleges are not to blame for the unemployment. CEOs and stockholders are to be blamed for enshittification, disproportionate stock buybacks (less money to labor cost), outsourcing, off shoring, displacement by AI. You mustn't measure college's worth by your income. Professionals (healthcare, law) must go to college to practice. Athletes benefit from intercollegiate sport. Some people go to college to party (fraternity, sorority) or to get laid. You go to college to meet people who disagree, to make professional connections with experts in the field (professors), or with rich families. You get valuable EXPERIENCE interacting with people you disagree with. This is something you cannot earn studying alone in a library or through Zoom or homeschooled. You can't possibly argue that going to Harvard, Stanford or MIT is not worth it. Besides, if your family makes less than 100k, you get a lot of tuition assistance because they have a large endowment.
I graduated with my Masters degree at zero cost to me. Joining the military was the greatest decision I've ever made. If you're struggling, join for 4 years. Go to school at the same time, get yourself a home with zero down... Military made it all possible. Life is good.
is it really true that college prepare student less now or that is the excuse given? did yoru engeneer or programmer dad really know more stuff than you at your age?
The death of college and university was when they became tied to employment. Higher education was meant to make better more informed citizens, not better workers.
College is still worth it, but not everywhere, and for everybody. Society is preparing current students real well today by giving them an IPhone, or IPad at 5 years old. Those shop classes I took in the 70s really hellped shape the individual I am today. I see so many college grads working in Starbucks, just to make ends meet, either by choosing the wrong degree, or by pressures from parents willing to spend their retirement money. Yet, students given everything do not usually succeed. I did get a two year college back in the early 2000s, when it was dirt cheap, and went from $30K then, to more than $140K today, and never stepped in a college again. Sure, lots of technical training and employer and self training. But great video. Students have been deceived, and now taxpayers have to pay for the ones that take the college debt forgiveness solution. I have colleagues at work that have paid $100s on their kid college, for them to take an unrelated low paying job, and their parents out of their retirement money. What's fair?
Also colleges need to stop making students take unnecessary classes that doesn’t have anything to do with their degree
This. Especially those gen ed classes. However I met my husband in one of those classes lol
Remember growing hearing:
"If you dont go to college and do good in school, you'll end up like that person."
And they always referenced a blue-collar worker of some sort.
This just goes to show how elitist America truly is, teaching kids that blue-collar workers are human trash and the only way to go is a four year degree followed by an office job.
Never finding out it was a good union job or trade…though unions are on the way out in trumpland
@@ashleyconnor8891 Assuming that "voting against one's self-interest" is a fallacy, why do you think that most blue collar worker choose to not work under a union?
About half blue collar work is awful but theres a whole half making good money who enjoy their work. Mfs just assume any blue collar work is awful for 0 reason
@@xcaliberVirus I remember that when I graduated in 71. I did poorly in school and went in the military as the draft was still going on . I excelled as an avionics technician and got out after 4 years. I worked a few jobs where I grew up and moved to Alaska. I used my electronics knowledge in the oil field. In 81 I maxed out on Social Security contributions by the middle of the year. I’m sure glad I didn’t waste four years sitting in a classroom and paying for it.
Got a degree in cybersecurity and a computer science degree. I don't qualify for entry level, or I'm overqualified. Which makes no sense.
Start your startup. That’s why you go to college since education is free on RUclips.
I feel the same way. About to graduate and I am getting nothing. O well, to the trades it is for me
Did yu not do any internships during your time at college?
Internships now require previous field related experience
@randomcommenter395 can't even get internship job. Because I don't qualify.
1900s - Do you breath? Good! Here’s an outstanding salary!
2000s - You need a degree to get a good salary
2010s - You need a degree and AT LEAST 1 internship for a good salary
2020s - You need a degree, a minimum of 2-3 certifications, 3 internships, 7 part time jobs, 25 projects, and be less than 22 years old in order to get a good salary
Only to start you out at $18 per hour
You may want to do research what salaries were actually like in 1900.
@@computername bro completely missed the point
@@gabelster3729bro he doesn't understand the value of the dollar and purchasing power
College is Not worth it; speaking from experience.
That's because current businesses are not placing any value into those degrees.
A lot of the courses and current curriculum are outdated and no longer relevant in today's workforce.
If anything, it needs a huge revamp and fix a lot of things that is no longer benefitting the student and the business.
Businesses are also to be at fault, because they no longer want to train the new hire or they don't use what the school is teaching students.
I still believe that college is very important (and also consider how terrible Americans are ranked in academics throughout the world and how dumber they are getting) and we should be educated in every aspect. So that we can be inventors instead of consumers.
I partly agree. I absolute crap jobs graduating in 2008. Once I finally started to earn a decent management job most college grad probably could achieve with some luck starting 2015.
I got a graduate degree. Does it have value maybe, but would I get to Director based on a network I got from that college. yes. So results may vary.
Connections> than degree alone.
It is. For like 4 career fields. Rest are not worth it.
Only a handful of careers that college is worth it.
College is worth it; Speaking from experience.
It's still worth it. I used to think it wasn't, but I started to see the value as I got older. The real issue is that it's overpriced.
Problem is a lot of people do the junk degrees. There is only like 4 career fields that are worth it.
@scorpionzz885 For the price, yeah, and I think universities need to be more transparent about that. But even the "junk" degrees like economics have value (even though they don't really lead to a career outside of academia). I was shocked that a lot of people don't actually know things that I thought were pretty basic.
We really just need to bring the price down. The education is important, and will help you in the long run. We just need to stop saddling kids with hundreds of thousands dollars of debt.
@@scorpionzz885 let me guess... law and medical field?
I think they need to be held accountable for both the outrageous prices and the relevance of what they teach
only a fool would go to college for an office job with a liftime of debt even if it pays $30 and hour $15 to $20 will be taking out to pay for student lones for the rest of your life
What do you mean by "not ready for entry level positions"? Entry level positions is about not being ready!!!! that's why they call it entry level!!!!!!
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Not anymore
they want person who is
20y old with 50y experience but who would work with minimum wage
Even entry level jobs have a level of expected skills and qualifications (e.g., knowing how to read and write). I think the problem is that graduates don't even have such qualifications.
you name it:
1. go to work late
2. put on pajamas
3. find excuses to not be late / not do any work.
4. brag about shit
of course they're unprepared because college never teaches these skills.
Because the employers don't want to pay for training, they demand a degree and let the potential employee pay the tab. Then they complain when the college, who doesn't exist to train employees but to provide an education, doesn't train their people the way they want.
They don't need to pay for training when there's a constant oversupply of workers...
I can understand a business not wanting to spend money to train people, just to have them leave and take that education with them. Loyalty is dead on both sides.
@@ashleyconnor8891why would they leave if you pay them well? Oh yeah… it’s because they don’t pay well, isn’t it? But thank god the CEO got his $8 million bonus this quarter.
College is not workforce training. Employers have to be aware that new hires will have to be trained. Maybe they should start offering longer contracts if they are so worried about employees jumping ship.
There needs to be much more cooperation between colleges and businesses in keeping up to date with exactly what skills they need to have, and if they can't get certain skills at the college, the businesses need to offer a means to learn through internships/training.
If i had my way, i don't think colleges should be accredited to give degrees unless they're basically handing graduates off to businesses upon graduation.
Of course there's nuance to everything, but if people are starting to feel degrees are worthless and expensive, then it might as well be true. No more "empty learning" unless someone is personally taking courses for their own enrichment or hobby; not for degree seekers -> job seekers
That is not in the best interest of colleges. Better a college grad fails to get a job and comes back to pay more for another useless degree.
@davedsilva exactly. The purpose becomes purely monetary gain for the colleges themselves rather than for genuine education or productivity. But at the extremes of this, the degrees become worthless as they mean nothing, and all the "education" leading to the degree can be hollow and meaningless as it doesn't matter as long as the college earns money.
But at this extreme, education is now a broken system that poses no value to society and does not justify its costs.
The current situation is people are now doubting the value of college, a very dangerous situation for colleges.
lol colleges take advantage of students by taking their money and giving them a useless degree with no job prospects. like the job itself that has a ton of requirements for a good candidate the student should make a job offer a requirement for attending the college or else no deal. time to tough up on college and not let them profit off at the expense of naive students leaving them in debt AND no job.
But employers don't want to pay anything, so they shoo you off to college. But like you said, the employer and the college are on different pages as to their expectations
@@draneym2003 I started working in 1991 at 16 making $4.25 I bought my home in 1997 making $6.50 payed it off at 42 making $13 now at 49 Im semi retired with no debts never went to college
Isn’t being in debt and not being able to find a job the American dream
been that way for the past 24 years
No, American Dream used to be you never went to college nessecairly for useless degrees, whilst living in an inflated society.
@@dnrspdr03canadian95 collage has never been a American dream
NO but powers to be has brainwashed people into being in debt for profit
The American dream (half century ago) used to be walk in, ask to see the manager, the only question is "when can you start?", and one income with only a high school education can support a family. You're wearing a tie? Clearly manager material!
I didn’t go to college. I joined the military for 4 years when the draft was still going on and got a good education in electronics. I started making over 60k a year in 1980 and more than doubled that by 2000. Thank you Uncle Sam.
You should thank being born before it all went to shit.
@ I know a lot of young and middle age guys doing quite well. My son being one of them.
They aren't "overqualified" - they are over-credentialed in worthless degrees. Qualifications are determined by the employer NOT the university. Unless you have a degree in the big three 1. medicine/healthcare, 2. lawyer/paralegal or 3. engineering, you are literally clowning yourself with debt
most people go to college to be a regular office worker making $35 an hour minus what comes out to pay for student loans then your only making $12 an hour
Fortunately for the US economy it's so large it nearly spans a whole continent. Otherwise it might end as the economy of Italy.
Because Italy's employers emphasize experience so much they underpay young graduates so much that many of them leave the country and many of them just never return which leads to the paradoxical situation of extreme youth underemployment AND crippling skill shortages.
yeah american companies are laying off their workers while also being bloated with senior executives, HR departments but severely lacking in people that do actual work.
The new book The Bubble That Broke The Bank argues that by 2026 we will experience a major deep recession. The coming collapse of the real estate market and a golden horde of AI workers will mean you will not get a job for at least 3 years. Run fast, Dick and Jane.
Free college in Cuba and Russia.
5x lower tuition in Canada.
Even if it's free, it's still a waste of 4-8+ years to get an average job.
Nothing is “free” in Russia, and the quality of education there is much worse than in the US nowadays.
@@aname4390as a Russian, I strongly disagree with you. Most qualified jobs require a bachelor's degree, which takes 4 years here, but a lot of people from my educational program already work in BigTech jobs. Furthermore, most universities cooperate with companies, so it's pretty impossible to be jobless if you get your degree in a good university.
college is learn to drink beer, party and what that is useful?? what work/job skill(s)?
I think they call that networking nowdays I don't drink or party so I would not know about that
Overly rosy presentation. Still trying to defend/explain the status quo. College is mostly just another business s-c-a-m.
It depends on the degree
Partly true. The major, the amount of student debt, the school reputation and network help with finding a job. Good school with right major and little debt can lead to good job. Bad degree from for profit school and lots of debt means trouble.
Many fields are oversaturated. Higher populations tend to create these problems.
He already said that. If it isn't a degree in law, medical, engineering, business administration, or technology then it's a waste of time and money. Go to trade school
@@RobotRebelCinematrade school cost right ? Do they accept financial aid ?
For the most part it is a scam nowadays. But certain degrees are not. Nurses for example is well worth the education, BUT! It's too expensive and too time consuming that it will burn you out. Its just not feasible to go for college education in this broken and expensive economy when you have to work constantly, provide for your love ones and pay bills. It's just too much risk and time used for college in this day and age. It's just not worth it - even when certain professions are. Jobs and companies need to wake up and get rid of old way of thinking. If not jobs deserve to die out.
I couldn't agree more, from my personal experience. College is good for educating you as a whole, as a human, but it gives you zero specific skills need in the real job market.
I think about half of the people in the comment section are wrong about college. As a college graduate, I can say that there are a lot of people who go to college for the education, not the booze and the partying. In fact, there wasn't any booze or partying at my online college. Just studying. I majored in IT/Software Development, which was touted as a money-making degree. But every legitimate job opening I saw in that field required 5+ years of professional, non-internship experience. There was a lot of competition for the few legitimate entry-level positions I saw. The other entry-level "job openings" were scams. I do not regret pursuing my degree, as I believe that, if money is your only motivation for college, then college is not for you. I learned a very important life skill in the course of my degree. That would be independent strategic thinking, which included training myself to do things rather than relying on others to train me. That skill has helped in many life situations, even in those I wouldn't expect.
Wonder why ive seen many grads join the military
I got a business degree and marketed myself to get into supply chain management. Thats what i do now
Look, the whole college-will-give-you-a-great-career thing is long over. Originally, universities had nothing to do with getting a job; it was to prepare the "gentry" to enter "proper" society. Somewhere around the early 20th century, the condition of a human's relation to economic output was at the state where college would prepare someone for higher paying work. The nature of the economy has changed. However, bloated, narcissistic universities have become addicted to the trough of easy money through the NEVER-should-have-been-implemented government student aid program, where basically, if you have a pulse you qualify for funds. So, to keep the money river flowing, the powers that be still preach everyone needs to go to college crap. In addition to that, the standards have been dumbed down so much making it more pathetic of an endeavour than it was just based on oversupply. That hasn't been the case for decades. The trades are paying better than college grads in the 2020s since the college elitists have put them down as "inferior work," and with the public duping into this, has created massage shortages of trade workers. Universities have basically just turned into money-grubbing propaganda pushing machines. The End of Work as We Know It The End of Work as We Know It | davsmithjo
Facts!! Union trades pay way more than most college degrees, White-collard jobs!
Honestly, I do regret wasting time and years in college because now I cannot find any employment due to the fact that artificial intelligence can do basically my job. 😢
College is a waste. All of the engineering and computer positions are trades. Employers should be hiring and training themselves.
I was an electronics technician for over forty years and near the end of my work career I could pretty much engineer what I needed to modernize equipment by just doing research on the internet. I learned to do a lot of engineering tasks just by self learning including learning some advanced math. I was even approached by one company I worked for to use my experience and knowledge to get a PE certification in the state I live in. Electrical Engineers sit at a desk all day and techs get to play with all kinds of test equipment and circuits.
College can partly help with uniformed government positions. Military, police and fire will pay slightly more for applicants with degrees. Caveat is that applicants must also be healthy, athletic and not have a criminal record.
I am surprised employers even want people to have a college degree. It sounds like colleges are not teaching what companies want to see in potential candidates(4:58).
The problem with education is that it is too long to the point that kids were sometimes became too old that they can only work in a company just for a few years before retirement not to count those that get a degree such as masters degree & doctorate. I mean I think most people will agree with me why not just remove senior high school after highschool just go to college take OJT & work.
College's are outdated its almost 2025now but college's are still in 1980"s...
Pre computer era
Some Employers they ask for higher level qualifications and masters degrees, but then one would need to train for higher level positions, what may happen, someone has higher level qualifications, won't get "trainee" or "entry level" position , because now employer says "too over qualified" , they think all sorts of things, employers thinking this person would they ask for more salary, would they leave for something with more salary, and better prospects.
If you are overqualified, start your own biznez, and compete against the company that rejected you.
Not easy when you have student debts and can't qualify for loans because of lack of a job..unless you have a private creditor or investor it's simply not possible.
lol that can only happen in your dreams. college exists to take your money and time so you have neither to start your own business.
I saw a 4chan meme about a guy wanting to start a basic septic tank replacer company. All he needs to operate is a van, shovel and parts. The bureacracy associated with starting the business? He wouldve needed around 400k in loans to actually pay for the all the licenses. Its a joke
Make America Great Again!
Instead of going to college and getting married I decided to work, get a girlfriend, raise our son together and we just bought a house! There were a lot of people that thought we wouldn’t stay together let alone purchase a home. College is great, but not everyone wants to go!
Degrees aren't worth the money colleges/universities charge. 75% of the students don't belong in college in the first place. Colleges/universities churn out grads that can't even read and write, let alone do math. Pressure is on professors to pass everyone so that their paychecks continue to flow. If you pick a major in some "obscure" field, don't expect to find a job. Damn few students have "potential" for work other than the "potential" to use cellphones, show up late to work, leave early, take time off, whine and complain constantly, and then quit. They are no investment; they are a bona fide liability.
118k for college is wild💀 I paid 32k and got a job WHILE in school and paid off my debt in the first year. If you go the post secondary make sure the program has integrated work terms. Three 4 month fulltime work terms and was able to continue part time through school. Came out with 2 years of work experience before I graduated.
A lot of truth here but super one sided. At the end of the day, a college degree shows employers that someone is willing to stick things out. There's real value there despite the problems.
$30,000 to show employers you can "stick things out" is ridiculous.
Recruiter here. That’s delulu thinking about adult daycare is why employers avoid recent college grads
😂
You can prove that other ways
It will never be more valuable than experience.
Companies requiring a degree are an insurance policy for them to ensure you stay because you need a job to pay off the debt. It’s indentured servitude.
that depends on what college you go to what you study and the annual tuition cost of the school say your studying business related fields at Penn Warton business school or NYU Stern School of business the later starts at roughly 91,000 a year
I got a BA in the social sciences. Do I work in that kind of field today? No. But the BA helped me get my foot in the door for entry level position and land interviews. At the time what I leaned in on were my grades and my writing abilities. Most employers at the time seemed to be receptive towards those things but I’d imagine times have changed since then
Depends on what you major in. Engineering, education, nursing, or other medical industry have a higher chance of landing you a job. History, Art, Psychology, etc. might as well plan to go get a masters and try to get a college teaching job.
People who need jobs start at high school and work their way up. College is for rich daddy to brag to their friends about the kid’s degree they never had then send their useless kid on vacation , away from the family business 😂
If anyone really wants a job nowadays they get into General Labor then Skilled Labour $100K careers.
Reason why my mom wanted us to go study, so she can brag to her friends and family 😂
Trades! But, not all trades pay well, either. Skilled labor/trades have been affected by oversaturation in certain ttades and illegal immigrants low balling American citizens and residents! Also, non-union trades low ball their employees!
@@Jonathan-e9qreason my family wants me to go to college is because a lot of them didn’t 😓
And the very few that did don’t go into full detail of what to do…”just go and don’t ask questions”
I’m probably not going altogether oh well
College is only a waste if you went for a degree that isn’t worth anything, and for a degree in something that doesn’t have a high demand in job positions after you graduate. If you go for something that is not in high demand or people continuously ask you what it is when you mention it, chances are that it will be a waste to get that degree.
Yeah, just go and read the bachelor thesis proposals of your average college graduate in economics. You’ll see no actual economic analysis applied. All the buzz and fuzz of studying “hard” courses and passing tough exams just doesn’t translate to real quantitative skill those students can use to produce actual conceptually sound analysis
Quality of education is low in my country too, but at least it’s not nearly as costly as in the USA. So I don’t exactly feel scammed. In fact, I appreciate how much I’ve grown over the years, I have 1 more year to learn and change as much as I can.
College is education. It's not job prep. Not sure when that got mixed up.
Blame...blame...blame. yet - look at the vast MAJORITY that are DOING FINE!
I have a masters. Killing it career wise and I will tell everyone I know unless for a small # of fields, college is totally a scam
Issue of companies not education
4:58 Entry level? Thought that wasn’t a thing anymore 😂
Yes entry level, that means with at least 10 years of experience
College isn't useless I've seen it elevate people's jobs but unless I know im going to do a field I'm not doing it
I think the problem is expecting the individual to pay for their own education. Education used to be funded from the state. I think we need more state funding and to apply lean to universities.
“Recruit ready made.” Translation: “hire and forget.”
i wish i could sue
College is quite similar to a sheep, cow, goat, or mother's milk. Preferably you would accept instruction. It is difficult to replace college, it has replaced conscription to the military. Should we say that many young adults have developed too slowly? We could say this under age 40 behavior is dismal, immature, and needs to be able to do anything at work. And I'm just going to do it. People may even be complaining college is a learning disability. So how can the new program be designed?
Why do you think they are letting in immigrants? Cheap labor. A college degree is only required for professions. Lawyers and doctors absolutely require a degree. Not so much an engineer, scientist, educator, and so on.
I’m sorry when I hear the TTS voice all I can think of is “scariest stories try not to get scared”
if you do want to or need to go to college, be smart and go to a community college or test out of classes with CLEP or ACE credits.
It’s a damn if you have a degree, or damn if you don’t type of situation.
It’s also credentialism, globalization, and especially LinkedIn and other job boards that ruined the job market and even more so what else has ruined the market is companies destroyed the whole concept of company loyalty. They want you to stay loyal but they also frown on you going from company to company to increase your salary and job title.
Everything wrong with online dating was wrong with LinkedIn first.
Nobody is doing these things you say maybe perhaps except USA
Damn, this guys gets it.
I wish I learned welding and forklift operating, and studied college as a hobby.
Sounds like you're a crypto scammer now, down that bad eh?
a good wlder can make up to around $800,000 and a forklift operater can make between $10 to $25 an hour
No, we need more people to have collage degrees, its good for the government, its good for companies to have employees, not everyone is allowed to be free financially. In others words, its a modern slavery. Think about this, even with a collage degree, you will still in 9 to 5 job...And from my experience, 9 to 5 is just like that, slavery, slavery...
Anyways, its all good guys, lets get a college degree, and live the rest of our days like NPC in this world .
Why the disabled people can’t get institutions or corporations
lifetime earnings are much higher with a degree.
Its valuable to a fixed percent of the population. Waste of time for everybody else.
Thé experience problem coule be fixed with personal projects about réal World problems specially if You're in computer science.
if You're in other fields, try to be a volunteer in a compagny you that excels at the field you want. At least you'll get to talk to profession ales there
college degrees are a minimum for many jobs, even if they dont need them.
Play your cards right.
College is a scam just traders and medical field is the key also.
I understood very early on that this was all BS but I do enjoy gaining knowledge in areas that fascinate me. I wish I could go to college just for the sake of my personal interests...
I can tell you are a conservative who is threatened by people waking up to injustice because they are college educated.
No, the colleges are not to blame for the unemployment. CEOs and stockholders are to be blamed for enshittification, disproportionate stock buybacks (less money to labor cost), outsourcing, off shoring, displacement by AI.
You mustn't measure college's worth by your income. Professionals (healthcare, law) must go to college to practice. Athletes benefit from intercollegiate sport. Some people go to college to party (fraternity, sorority) or to get laid.
You go to college to meet people who disagree, to make professional connections with experts in the field (professors), or with rich families. You get valuable EXPERIENCE interacting with people you disagree with. This is something you cannot earn studying alone in a library or through Zoom or homeschooled.
You can't possibly argue that going to Harvard, Stanford or MIT is not worth it. Besides, if your family makes less than 100k, you get a lot of tuition assistance because they have a large endowment.
Enlist into the military
I graduated with my Masters degree at zero cost to me. Joining the military was the greatest decision I've ever made. If you're struggling, join for 4 years. Go to school at the same time, get yourself a home with zero down... Military made it all possible. Life is good.
is it really true that college prepare student less now or that is the excuse given? did yoru engeneer or programmer dad really know more stuff than you at your age?
college is for rich people trad schools is for everybody
The death of college and university was when they became tied to employment. Higher education was meant to make better more informed citizens, not better workers.
Why University of Regina (sask Canada) is in this video 😭😭😭 please leave my University alone. Go take other USA universities videos.
They took from a video on UR guaranty program. I am from U of R too....MPA 2020.....now in Sierra Leone
Bruh it’s not that serious
It’s the same thing here in Canada too
Speaking from a UofT student
STEM. Law is pretty worthless, as well.
College is still worth it, but not everywhere, and for everybody. Society is preparing current students real well today by giving them an IPhone, or IPad at 5 years old. Those shop classes I took in the 70s really hellped shape the individual I am today. I see so many college grads working in Starbucks, just to make ends meet, either by choosing the wrong degree, or by pressures from parents willing to spend their retirement money. Yet, students given everything do not usually succeed. I did get a two year college back in the early 2000s, when it was dirt cheap, and went from $30K then, to more than $140K today, and never stepped in a college again. Sure, lots of technical training and employer and self training. But great video. Students have been deceived, and now taxpayers have to pay for the ones that take the college debt forgiveness solution. I have colleagues at work that have paid $100s on their kid college, for them to take an unrelated low paying job, and their parents out of their retirement money. What's fair?
Make America great again, ha ha ha
You all need to blame your failures on yourself. A degree is and was 100% worth it
Survival bias?
it is worthless but try applying for companies without it and see how far you get in the application process.
Certifications is only thing that matter, IT lives and breaths on certs that prove practical skills.
Make America great again, ha ha ha