While Fuji has told us some of what we can expect from this camera, it seems to be very much so still in development which I think is a great thing. I am glad they are taking time to survey what folks want to see in their first cinema style camera to hopefully get it right and make it a competitive offering. As mentioned, you can go tell Fuji the features you want to see in this camera here: shopusa.fujifilm-x.com/gfx-cinema?Cicada_Announcement_24&
Got the email in my inbox this morning and I am indeed very excited about this camera!! My main hope for this camera, and all cinema style cameras and mirrorless cameras going forward, is internal raw video. This is a must in my workflow. I shoot outdoors and in challenging lighting situations a lot where I don't have time to properly expose for the highlights all the time. I need raw to correct for over or under exposure issues in post. 10 bit 422 just isn't cutting it for me anymore. Fingers crossed!
It's my understanding that Red (now Nikon) has a patent on compressed raw recording internally - leading to odd "back" units and secondary recorders for other manufacturers, or skipping compressed and going uncompressed. I think it has to do with the specific compression method, as Canon seemed to be able to get around it.
Super interested in this camera even though I very likely won't be able to buy one. But mostly just excited at the prospect of Fuji making a video only gear. The price point will be interesting. I don't expect it to be under $8k since the GFX 100 II is around that, but they also have to worry about competing in a much more competitive sector with Blackmagic, Sony and RED, whereas the GFX 100II being a medium format camera has a much smaller target market and less direct competition from the big brands.
yeah market is super competitive but I think they could seriously make a VERY intriguing option just depending on how they price it and what features they add / subtract
it probably won’t be…….not in a box form……thats high key there work horse camera……as great as it is for video i don’t see how that would benefit when this is the video machine they are pushing
@@blasepivovar Why would a camera company that doesn't even have a full frame censored camera that's attempting to hop into what's at hand here (A almost MEDIUM format cinema camera) Be thinking about boxing up their next gen work horse (What would we say....XH2sii?) lol? I see what you're saying but making sense of such things is where I'm at. It will be a while if I had to guess.... they def won't be following up with a super 35 version of this rite away lol. They would have done that first as the tried-and-true video horse in their arsenal is the XH2s.......GFX100ii absolutely is capable of beautiful footage (seen it all over the place). Have to ask why do you think they skipped over creating what you're talking about first? Lol??? X mount glass has to be doing numbers but look at how many GFX bodies they have with the larger sensors ...... ton of them at this point. There geared cinema glass is X mount. LOL......Xh2s is my HORSE by the way lol. Great dialogue and I respectfully hope that I'm wrong and your rite.
Fujifilm want to find his specific niche beacuse there is a lot of competitors in full frame.its good thing i hope a x-version video centric fore sure in super 35 version more affordable but moré riggable
I think this is a bright future overall in the camera market. Fuji has decided to make a dedicated filmmaking camera that will hopefully encourage others to improve their current technologies. Not necessarily get a bigger sensor, but to have a better quality sensor. Look at the URSA Cine 12K. That camera is going to change the indie filmmaking industry.
Fuji and Fujinon have been in broadcast and cinema for a long long time so they already have the knowledge to make a good product but its about making a product for the right people so they just need to figure out who the right people are. Do they want to take a bite out of the ARRI level of professionals or the run and gun documentarians or somewhere in-between.
I'm excited about the possibilities but the CineD interview with the product manager at InterBee cooled my enthusiasm. Mainly because it will use the exact same 102MP sensor as the GFX100 II. Think about that for a moment. 102MP for video means teeny little pixels, which are not good for low light. It means a lot of rolling shutter. Fuji really should spec out a new videocentric sensor that is MF and say 10MP. That would have HUGE pixels because of the low pixel density, it would be a low light and dynamic range monster, as it needs to be to compete with the other offerings. There is absolutely no reason to have a 102MP sensor in a "filming camera". According to the product manager, the camera, to date, mostly seems like just a GFX100 II in a video friendly box, which isn't going to cut it in the marketplace of 2025/26. Things could change, I hope Fuji reads the feedback from the community of buyers and reacts appropriately. It needs to be good in low light. It needs to not have slow readout speed. It doesn't need AF so don't even bother. It does need in-body XLRs, 12G x 2 output, genlock and TC inputs. Internal ND would be nice but it's not a deal breaker on a cine type camera, people are using the Pyxis and it doesn't have them. Most people were expecting a re-packaged XH-2S so the fact that Fuji is going MF is interesting, although I don't know if that will actually drive buyers to buy it.
I would care if the readout wasn't slower than discount APSC Sony cameras from 6 years ago. I want them to make a camera with autofocus. I know I know. You don't need it, until you do.
Ill not say that autofocus doesnt have a place in filmmaking but if you need it just pick the tech that dji is pushing, autofocus is just for a Limited amount of lenses, a rounded cinema camera (IQ, connectivity, light control tools …)
@@vhauser416 Agreed, any lenses I would want to put on this thing definitely wouldn't be AF and would be PL or LPL. I'm still not sold on AF for actual filmmaking whether thats narrative, documentary, etc. My rule of thumb is generally if you have control over what's happening in front of your lens, you don't want or need AF. If you have no control over whats happening in front of your lens, AF is handy but not a deal breaker. I've shot plenty of documentaries and events with manual focus glass. AF just makes it more convenient but so many newer shooters cannot comprehend not shooting with AF, sad, it's a like a whole skillset has been lost to a generation.
Buy a GFX 100 ii -- jokes aside, hopefully they take into account some of the feedback & discourse before finalizing the design.. Maybe even a faster sensor or multiple processors to speed that up.. As someone who already has a 100 II, it is very underrated, but a faster readout speed in 5.8 / 8k or an even better/faster 4K downsampled mode is near the top of my list.. Lastly, this market is very competitive and Sony is surely coming with some upgrades soon in their other cinema cameras, as well as the surely in development REDNIKON..
Does the GFX 100 ii shoot 5.8K? I thought it only did 8K, 4K and 2K? I've never used medium format but have been intrigued by it over the past year or so. I think the sensor is probably good enough as is, but I hope Fuji would update the processor so it can squeeze higher frame rates out of this sensor.
@ I didn’t say that. And the choice can be there. But I’m yet to see a movie where I went “I wish this movie was in 65mm” I understand the jump from S35 to FF, because of lens choices, and separation of background. But look at the Marvel movies shot on the Alexa 65. There is nothing unique to that look…
While Fuji has told us some of what we can expect from this camera, it seems to be very much so still in development which I think is a great thing. I am glad they are taking time to survey what folks want to see in their first cinema style camera to hopefully get it right and make it a competitive offering. As mentioned, you can go tell Fuji the features you want to see in this camera here: shopusa.fujifilm-x.com/gfx-cinema?Cicada_Announcement_24&
Got the email in my inbox this morning and I am indeed very excited about this camera!! My main hope for this camera, and all cinema style cameras and mirrorless cameras going forward, is internal raw video. This is a must in my workflow. I shoot outdoors and in challenging lighting situations a lot where I don't have time to properly expose for the highlights all the time. I need raw to correct for over or under exposure issues in post. 10 bit 422 just isn't cutting it for me anymore. Fingers crossed!
Mmmm yeah internal raw would be crazy
It's my understanding that Red (now Nikon) has a patent on compressed raw recording internally - leading to odd "back" units and secondary recorders for other manufacturers, or skipping compressed and going uncompressed. I think it has to do with the specific compression method, as Canon seemed to be able to get around it.
Super interested in this camera even though I very likely won't be able to buy one. But mostly just excited at the prospect of Fuji making a video only gear. The price point will be interesting. I don't expect it to be under $8k since the GFX 100 II is around that, but they also have to worry about competing in a much more competitive sector with Blackmagic, Sony and RED, whereas the GFX 100II being a medium format camera has a much smaller target market and less direct competition from the big brands.
yeah market is super competitive but I think they could seriously make a VERY intriguing option just depending on how they price it and what features they add / subtract
I really hope the next fuji video camera will be x-h2s in a box body with video oriented features and professional i/o ports
it probably won’t be…….not in a box form……thats high key there work horse camera……as great as it is for video i don’t see how that would benefit when this is the video machine they are pushing
yeah probs won't be this camera but could see them doing that down the line for sure!
@@blasepivovar Why would a camera company that doesn't even have a full frame censored camera that's attempting to hop into what's at hand here (A almost MEDIUM format cinema camera) Be thinking about boxing up their next gen work horse (What would we say....XH2sii?) lol? I see what you're saying but making sense of such things is where I'm at. It will be a while if I had to guess.... they def won't be following up with a super 35 version of this rite away lol. They would have done that first as the tried-and-true video horse in their arsenal is the XH2s.......GFX100ii absolutely is capable of beautiful footage (seen it all over the place). Have to ask why do you think they skipped over creating what you're talking about first? Lol??? X mount glass has to be doing numbers but look at how many GFX bodies they have with the larger sensors ...... ton of them at this point. There geared cinema glass is X mount. LOL......Xh2s is my HORSE by the way lol. Great dialogue and I respectfully hope that I'm wrong and your rite.
I really hope the next Fuji camera will be the x-h2s with autofocus.
woah such a good and informative video! Did you shoot this on h.264? Would love to hear about settings you used
@@shankuwanku9174 see my best settings videos on the xh2s / xt5! H265
Fujifilm want to find his specific niche beacuse there is a lot of competitors in full frame.its good thing i hope a x-version video centric fore sure in super 35 version more affordable but moré riggable
mmm yeah an x mount option that is super 35 down the road would be sickkkk
I think this is a bright future overall in the camera market. Fuji has decided to make a dedicated filmmaking camera that will hopefully encourage others to improve their current technologies. Not necessarily get a bigger sensor, but to have a better quality sensor. Look at the URSA Cine 12K. That camera is going to change the indie filmmaking industry.
Totally agree about this just being a great thing to see overall!
Fuji and Fujinon have been in broadcast and cinema for a long long time so they already have the knowledge to make a good product but its about making a product for the right people so they just need to figure out who the right people are. Do they want to take a bite out of the ARRI level of professionals or the run and gun documentarians or somewhere in-between.
Agree. I could see this most likely landing in between
Lots of people are gonna be really pissed at the rolling shutter performance
we’ll see. i could see them finding a way to improve it with it still being developed
I'm excited about the possibilities but the CineD interview with the product manager at InterBee cooled my enthusiasm. Mainly because it will use the exact same 102MP sensor as the GFX100 II. Think about that for a moment. 102MP for video means teeny little pixels, which are not good for low light. It means a lot of rolling shutter. Fuji really should spec out a new videocentric sensor that is MF and say 10MP. That would have HUGE pixels because of the low pixel density, it would be a low light and dynamic range monster, as it needs to be to compete with the other offerings. There is absolutely no reason to have a 102MP sensor in a "filming camera".
According to the product manager, the camera, to date, mostly seems like just a GFX100 II in a video friendly box, which isn't going to cut it in the marketplace of 2025/26. Things could change, I hope Fuji reads the feedback from the community of buyers and reacts appropriately. It needs to be good in low light. It needs to not have slow readout speed. It doesn't need AF so don't even bother. It does need in-body XLRs, 12G x 2 output, genlock and TC inputs. Internal ND would be nice but it's not a deal breaker on a cine type camera, people are using the Pyxis and it doesn't have them.
Most people were expecting a re-packaged XH-2S so the fact that Fuji is going MF is interesting, although I don't know if that will actually drive buyers to buy it.
yeah that all makes sense! appreciate those thoughts dan! will be interesting so see what they do with the feedback
Thinking about eterna do you use eterna conversion from flog2?
i just grade with my own LUTs. for monitoring on an external monitor I will often use the Flog2 to WDR conversion LUT from Fuji
I would care if the readout wasn't slower than discount APSC Sony cameras from 6 years ago. I want them to make a camera with autofocus. I know I know. You don't need it, until you do.
go let them know!
Tell them not to screw up the autofocus and fix the current problem lol
haha feel free to go tell them on the form! I already submitted mine
If you need autofocus, you don’t need a cinema camera
Ill not say that autofocus doesnt have a place in filmmaking but if you need it just pick the tech that dji is pushing, autofocus is just for a Limited amount of lenses, a rounded cinema camera (IQ, connectivity, light control tools …)
They can’t fix it. It’s all in the lens no going back.
@@vhauser416 Agreed, any lenses I would want to put on this thing definitely wouldn't be AF and would be PL or LPL. I'm still not sold on AF for actual filmmaking whether thats narrative, documentary, etc. My rule of thumb is generally if you have control over what's happening in front of your lens, you don't want or need AF. If you have no control over whats happening in front of your lens, AF is handy but not a deal breaker. I've shot plenty of documentaries and events with manual focus glass. AF just makes it more convenient but so many newer shooters cannot comprehend not shooting with AF, sad, it's a like a whole skillset has been lost to a generation.
Buy a GFX 100 ii -- jokes aside, hopefully they take into account some of the feedback & discourse before finalizing the design.. Maybe even a faster sensor or multiple processors to speed that up.. As someone who already has a 100 II, it is very underrated, but a faster readout speed in 5.8 / 8k or an even better/faster 4K downsampled mode is near the top of my list.. Lastly, this market is very competitive and Sony is surely coming with some upgrades soon in their other cinema cameras, as well as the surely in development REDNIKON..
Does the GFX 100 ii shoot 5.8K? I thought it only did 8K, 4K and 2K? I've never used medium format but have been intrigued by it over the past year or so. I think the sensor is probably good enough as is, but I hope Fuji would update the processor so it can squeeze higher frame rates out of this sensor.
yeah camera world is crazy these days. I hope they do take feedback seriously as they could really disrupt the market with the right offering
@@DynamicPhil84 or my site which has a bunch of screengrabs from this format.. tMcCool
Entirely pointless without global shutter.
hoping for global shutter
We don’t need larger than full frame…there is literally no stories that needs that…🤦♂️
So IMAX shouldn't exist in your opinion?
@ I didn’t say that. And the choice can be there.
But I’m yet to see a movie where I went “I wish this movie was in 65mm”
I understand the jump from S35 to FF, because of lens choices, and separation of background.
But look at the Marvel movies shot on the Alexa 65. There is nothing unique to that look…
yeah "needs" are a funny thing in the camera world