Mill Lumber w/ a Chainsaw and The Beam Machine - 1st Time (Frugal Fridays)
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2015
- Time for another episode of Frugal Friday to help you save time and money. Today I try to mill my own lumber from an oak log.
Join me as I mill an oak log ~12" in diameter into usable lumber with a beam riding chainsaw mill for the first time, and see the results and some reflections. Stay tuned to the end as I reflect on my first milling experience. (Frugal Fridays 4)
I mill a log into lumber using The Beam Machine. I purchased The Beam Machine through an online retailer. I debated between The Beam Machine like chainsaw mill vs. the Alaskan chainsaw type of mill; I settled on The Beam Machine type of mill because it looked simpler to operate.
I obtained a beam about 6"x8"x4.5'. I may further process them beam using the beam machine into smaller pieces or wait 6.5 years to use the milled lumber.
As a first try it was very educational. I share with you my first milling experience. I also plan to take the beam machine into the woods and find some logs to mill on site. There are lots of fallen trees in the surrounding area, some would make great woodworking projects.
The chainsaw I am running is an Echo cs590 with the 20" bar.
John Z Zhu
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Keep up the good work mate, your enthusiasm is encouraging.
I swear I just watched a video of someone trying to use this device and really had no clue.
Thank you for your video.
Did a great job showing us how to use this.
Excellent job, you learn as you go. Thanks for the video
Thanks.
Thank you very much. I have been trying to work out how to use mine. Thank you. When I get back to my property then I can get to work.
Neat little jig for such a powerful tool, looks like it worked great, nice job John
+Sterling Davis Thanks Sterling. The beam machine is for a more civilized time; not so random like free hand cutting.
Interesting jig. Thanks for showing how it works.
+Chris Mooney You're welcome. It might work better in more experienced hands than mine. This was just to show what a first timer like me experienced.
Beautiful beam
Thanks for the demo looks like something I would buy, it sure is cheap enough.
Very well done video. Beam machine is a well made tool. I own one.
Looks good, pretty simple 👌
This was really cool. I like your show John.
+Stephan Pöhnlein Thanks Stephan. Always appreciate your encouragement.
I had not seen that method before. Pretty sweet results John!
+Peter Brown Thanks Peter, Sarah and Jeremy of Slowvvannah farm did something like this with a home made jig. Can't argue with these results. BTW I made it a head of you on Josh V's list (see comments).
Way to go....great video !
I liked that you mentioned the oil and gas consumption. What would be interesting is the difference in consumption using a more advance mill.
We use all our slab scrap for benches, stools and coffee tables. Great for gardens and patios
That's a great idea.
Nice job looks cooll!...gets some chaps !!!!
Wow ! C'est bien nice ! Pourtant tllement simple mais, si pratique ! J'adore ce système...
Merci. I am glad you "loved" the system. It's pretty neat.
looked like it well for you. nice job.
+Francis Barnett Thanks Francis, it was nice to use "upcycle" the log.
This type of tool is quite usefull.
You can get much closer to square with some additional tools. A level for one thing will help hold square on the 3rd and 4th cuts.
You can nail a 2x4 cleat to the ends of the log. The square and level work this setup. The method will be instinctive when you try it.
Also if you want dimension lumber or boards I have a suggestion. I reco.end a table saw. The kerf is thiner so there is less waste. Slab off the or 4 sides. Flip the cant end for end to get increase depth of cut. Run multiple passes raising the blade each time. If the cant is too big there will be some wood remaining between the two kerfs a hand rip saw will make quick work of that. Let the limber dry and address the surface irregularities with normal shop practices.
You should also seal the boards on the ends to prevent checking. There are products for this. I have used cheap house paint with almost as good results as the purpose made products.
It a fun tool. Looks like you are having fun with it.
Great video, Thanks!
You're welcome.
That's a nice saw!
Excellent!
Nice job,
Good job John....subscribed! 👍🏻😃
Excellent Video, you talked me into it, I'm buying one right now, thanks. DanO'
+MrDanoconnor Thanks Dan, in case it wasn't clear this video wasn't an advertisement nor was it sponosred by Beam Machine. I just thought there wasn't a good video on the subject, I hope you make lots of lumber with it.
Nice video John, I have one of those and it looks like your first time went better then mine! I used it on a 20 plus inch 6 foot long maple log, I sliced off one side to make the flat for a bench, And you are right about the instructions, they lack a certain clarity, But it does do the job and they are not expensive.
+heatherschubbyhubby Thanks HCH, my chainsaw was newi-sh, and I had a tree trimming guy adjust my carbs so it would run a bit more lean, that might help.
I am thinking of getting one. I only have a electric saw and the trees I have are pine. Good job on the video and the project. I used to work at Grissom Air Force Base; sure do miss it.
Pretty cool.
+David Bishop Thanks DB.
Just today I was looking for information about chain saw jigs. Excellent video, thanks John.
+Humus Woodwork You're welcome. It's a decision between the Alaskan style vs the beam riding style.
The Nomadic Polywright Show Can you recommend any cheap template? I've found for sale in Europe are quite expensive, maybe you know a brand I've not yet seen.
+Humus Woodwork Everything is more expensive in Europe, I paid ~$40 for mine. Here is a link of someone who made their own version (ruclips.net/video/NPthav-PM4o/видео.html), I decided against making one because it didn't seem cost effective.
The Nomadic Polywright Show Yes, it is. In my case I think that is more cheap make my own jig. Thanks for the video!
i have a sawmill but i also love my beam machine for cutting door and window openings and it works great for that or making over length beams as i can only cut up to 20' on my sawmill
+Billy Bob I'm looking forward to the possibility of cutting 20' beams.
Dude, that is awesome! Looks far simpler to manage than a chainsaw mill as well.
I’ve had one of these for 15-20 years. Made a few woodsheds and dock beams. There is definitely is a learning curve to getting accurate results but you can’t beat the simplicity. Finding a straight 2X4 may be your biggest challenge, however!
How do you make sure your 2×4 is straight on the log
@@blaineperry4205 You mark out the beam shape on the small end of the log, then screw the 2X4 down making sure it is straight along the edge. Doesn’t matter if it’s bowed a bit. The first cut is your reference cut. The slab will be somewhat tapered, of course. From there on you lay the 2X4 on the flat cut sides. Keep a square handy. A bit of a learning curve, as I said.
Very Good Demonstration and Simple. I’m Seriously considering buying The Beam Maker Vertical Chainsaw Guide Has made a Believer of me…. I Will Keep You Posted
That is so cool! Even we could make something similar out of wood and some bolts!
+Summers Woodworking Thanks Brian. The welding on it looks bad, but as long as it works. With a wood one there might be too much wood to wood friction, and a wood one won't be as durable and would be bigger. But if you build it I would watch.
That's a nice setup John! I saw your wood hoarding instinct kicking in with those edge cuts. "hmmm what could I do with this?"
+AdventuresInDIY Haha, thanks Chris. There is plenty of wood in the area but the frugal side of me says I need to get at least 2 uses out of everything.
My daughter want a live edge charcuterie board.
10/10 Good job
Thank you.
Thanks for sharing…. Very informative and entertaining. Thanks again. Craig Pa
Pretty impressive for such a humble setup.
When I was younger I worked (slaved?) with my dad on his woodmizer portal sawmill. I keep thinking of looking at some of these bandsaw mills, but then something like this would be a much better value for as much as it would get used. If you are not selling milling services those, even those smaller mills just are not worth the expense.
+Make Crazydays Agreed. I found a couple of lumber sources around here, they are local and the prices are great. But I still have trees in the area that have fallen, or someone just bucked a bunch of 13" walnut and left them to rot. So a small and portable one has a great advantage.
Good little tool. I see you are already missing Indiana. Referring to your shirt
john, get a ripper chain, and a battery screw gun to fasten the 2x4 to the log. Great video.
+Michael Carron Thank you.
I use lithium ion impact driver(you don't strip your screws)just watch hard woods screws break easy wen drive to deep! Chisel down expose broken screw shank grab and spin out with vicegrips.tip maby helpful if in a bind
Ripping chain for sure, loved the info man gj in the vides
Hey, it's subtitled "Frugal Friday" for a reason.
Ripping chain makes it smoother. It doesn't do much for speed though.
Wow,Thought you had made a new video after all these years only to find out the algorithm sucks
Alaskan chainsaw mill from Granberg International is a great mill. It is also VERY safe. No way the bar can kick back on you or hit you. That said is it a lot more money and is more suited for much bigger logs. Small logs this fixture you're using comes into its own and in my opinion is very versatile for those smaller crooked logs. Right on. Even if you have a big Granberg or even a Woodmeizer bandsaw mill this little fixture is NOT a waste of money and is a good one to have because you will use it.
Thanks a lot man I’ve been looking everywhere for a demonstration of this particle attachment. They’re sold on eBay but there’s no way of comparing size of the tool and no clue how it worked by the description of it or picture
Amazing 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👌🏻❤❤🙏🇬🇪
This channel has won the permanent #4 spot in my favorite RUclips channels. Only beat by Diresta, Drunkin Woodworker (I guess Make Something now), and Steve Ramsey.
+Josh V Thanks Josh. That's some elite company. I might recommend you check out John Heisz, Peter Brown, Savvas Papasavva, and Paul Sellers if you haven't already. I don't mind moving down your list.
I already watch Heisz and Brown, but I'll check out the other two. Thanks!
+Josh V OoooOoo, ranked ahead of Heisz and Brown, nice.
great job. the Alaskan sawmill would go hand in hand with that.
Thanks. Very possible to use them in tandem. Although I am hoping that a neighbor of mine might get a sawmill setup this year.
well in that case a woodmizer LLT15 will be your best friend. See my videos
difference between the beam machine and an alaskan mill is one cuts vertical the other cuts horizontal i have both, and you need both to utilize a logs full potential
Cant you just flip the log.
interesting thank you
+Walter Rider Glad you thought so and you're welcome.
I never seen one of those before but it looks like it works.
It's pretty nice, I just recently used it to slab some white oak.
nice
The
Timber Tuff TMW-56 Lumber Cutting Guide on Amazon is $30.99 and that includes shipping. It is similar.
Thanks for the info. There are lots of brand with a similar design this just happens to be the one I selected.
Good job. Time for a beer:)
Thanks. But I don't drink. May be a Cuban or two.
That looks like white oak you cut from the bark and leaves that is one of the hardest woods there is. I am thinking of one for hemlock barn beams and to work in conjunction with an Alaska mill.
+cabotbluegill I think it is white oak; it was a very old tree that had a full life, before it could barely support it's own weight due to rot.
that does happen interesting mill you have
What you leg and foot there at the end when the saw swings down. Just need to make sure the whole log doesn't collapse when the side piece comes off and then have the stilling running chain drop onto the top of your foot. I'm not Mr. Safety by any means, but it does look potentially nasty in off or slippery situation. Reasonable unit though.
im from quadra island the guy that was hired to help make this tool
I bought one 3 days ago and they are on back order. This is great! Now we need a simple kiln solution
That beam looks like it has a twist in it, not bad tho for the very fist time using the attachment I think where you got that out of square cut was on you very first cut spend more time on getting that 2x4 level if it tilts even the slightest you will get a twisted beam with one side out of square. When you attach your 2x4 get you a small level and make sure you are level across the board don’t matter if it is level the length of the board.
I mean, screws and an impact driver would probably help. What happens when you get to the point where there is not enough log left to attach the 2 x 4?
Price is right on these things, think I'll get one
Cool, I think you'd enjoy it.
Did you us a ripping blade? That's one thing I've seen mentioned on chainsaw milling vids.
Pretty simple looking accessory.
+wordsnwood I've seen and read that as well, evening "find woodworking" magazine. But I did not, the instruction specifically cautions against a rip chain.
Any idea why? Everything I've read/seen says it works better to use a rip chain.
John they make those things called steel toe boots lol
I thought they did. It's a matter of comfort and motivation. If I know I could cut my foot I'd probably be a lot more careful, because I won't be wearing steel toes all the time.
You could plane off the bark-side on your off-cut for a platter or make a shallow bowl.
I could do that. I think it wants to be a coffee table or sitting bench top.
We always used the slabs for building chicken coops and stuff around the homestead. And they also make good firewood!
It will probably be saver to put the piece on some kind of sawhorse and adjust the height to the length of the piece that is going to be cutoff
this could be used in tandem with an Alaskan mill for quarter sawing.
That's a good idea.
Nice. My 2€:
Use cheap biodegradable Canola oil for bar oil.
Reprofile your chain cutting teeth to apx 5*
Wood dries 1 year per inch with bark on wood. Wood without bark on and planked is about 1/3 to 1/2 that time.
Like video. Were did you purchase your sawmill tool?
I have the echo timber wolf.
there is an adjustment screw for the oiler.
Everyone raves about that major brand but this was more performance for the $. Thanks for the info.
John Zhu ya that happens to be the same reason i bought this saw.
Is this saber pierced? or is it just with tightening the screws?
I want this beams
How about riving? A few wedges, a one handed sledge hammer and oak will be faster than the chain saw. It's *more* stable than quartersawn. Just keep splitting down the middle.
I had not found any site that send to friend Brazil!
+Fabiano Pontes Perhaps you can talk to your local lumber mill or make one in a machine shop. Good luck.
pretty cool! how would you go about turning this into boards?
+Dutchhorse Thanks Burt. I don't plan to turn this into boards, I might use the beam machine to cut it down thinner to it can dry quicker, but they won't be typical board thickness.
Hi Bert, that question popped up in my head as well. From what I saw in John's demo, I think some amount of board can be cut from, let's say a 8" × 10" square log for example- maybe three quarters of it, by cutting it in the same elevated position. But as the log gets tinner, there will me need for more stability mechanisms to be put in place...those this make sense??
I bought one. Ugh. Lol. Didn't do real bad. Get the Alaskan mill. Much straighter cuts. Still takes a long time. I have a husky 572. 8 foot by 12 inch ash takes 7 minutes.
Just wondering , but did you use a ripping chain ? Very simple set up , the old KISS method lol , but who the hell can afford a 2x4 now-a-days
If you have a new chain,take the old one and grind down the depth rakers...Then it will fly through the wood.
That's a safety risk that each individual will have to decide for himself.
I use it what about using it on hard wood and heating of chain sharpening of teeth time used on one log soft wood is easy
Could you please let me know the size of the two bolts that hold the bar? I need to replace them (they got all rusty - my fault) but I am having a hard time finding the correct replacement size. I checked with the spare bolts I have in my garage but none fits perfectly. Maybe they use metric?
I don't know the exact size, no reason to believe yours and mine are the same size. You can get a thread measurer to find out exactly what you need.
3 yr. wait. 1 inch drying per year, but it can dry from
both sides
I'm not sure if the 1"/yr is already counted from both side. A moisture meter would help.
How can i get one of this
What kind of wood was that?
Did you use a ripping chain or crosscut?
+PeaceSouljer 1 original chain, rip/cross cut chain. Manufacture warns against rip only chain.
Hello John Zhu, I live in Brazil, where I can buy this equipment? Sincerely Fabiano Bridges
+Fabiano Pontes Hello Fabiano, I suggest a search for a beam machine online.
amazon.com
Hola ...como hago para comprar una guía como está ...eh. Gracias
hey. its been 6 years. you use that beam for anything yet?
Nice video John what was the name of the manufacturer
Can I get it through amazon?
you have to wait a year for every inch of width?
+عميد أندرسون 1yr/in of thickness is a general guideline for thick wood, a 1/2" thick piece can dry much faster than 6 month, it depends on where and how it is stored.
What size is your Echo?
Is the beam machine worth the money to be honest?
hey john i wanna buy this product, where can i buy it from ??? I am from India
Somebody please could tell me where can I buy it???
Sayın yetkili bu makinayı nasıl temin edebilirim nereden bulabilirim .yardımcı olurmusunuz.turkey den yazıyorum
Salient saw
I need one beam machine ASAP. .How can I get one. .Thanks
Ye beam mchine mil sktaa hai kyaa online khi
Nesecito una guía como esta y cuánto me cuesta soy de Perú
good job, could you put their address or web site in the comment section?
Para Colombia donde lo puedo conseguir
Were can i buy this
i want's buy this