Never mind mere protesting, the army was deployed to ensure citizens stay indoors during level 5 lockdown! If they applied such force at the borders, we wouldn’t be dealing with this problem!
@@shaunie7473 2020-2022 were two years when people's rights were totally stripped. That's how we were shown all over the world that politicians and leaders don't care about humans. Their power turns them into mini-gods!!
This is a complete embarrassment for any state🤦🏼♂️ South Africa is a joke. In Marikana they were quick to exert maximum force against citizens striking for a mere pay hike
@@hihello7014no STF is the best...it's a very elite small branch of the police...majority of SAPS do nothing....they just wanted the job but will never risk their lives to do it.
That’s what they usually do. Their citizens will be dealt with harshly, yet an extremely lenient approach is taken towards criminals. Someone breaks into your house and you kill the person, you’ll be in jail within hours.
Operation Dudula has been saying but were called xenophobic... Glad now the media is showing the extent of this instead of gaslighting SA'ns. SANDF should be deployed in all the mining areas. The Police are overwhelmed & outnumbered.
Is the zama zamas not from lesothi, zimbabwe and mozambique? Why do they not mine for diamonds in lesotho? Maybe their countries dont have a free range like ours and their justice system is more solid than south africa. We need the icc to intervene here. This is an injustice to human rights.
@@Professor_Stark It’s unlike him not to be front and center at such matters. Remember not too long ago he staged a nation wide protest against matters of national concern like electricity outages, even though he isn’t skilled nor qualified he took the lead? Illegal foreign miners are a PROBLEM, so one would expect him to stand up against it too, don’t you think? I mean he did invite foreigners to run a mock in SA anyway, so he must deal with his people!
Using JMPD??? Where are SAPS? They are trained for this. Also, if its being classified as terrorism, call in the army. They operate on a different level to the police and will clean up quicker than the cops could ever do it.
Police are already using weapons. There is never an instance where police conduct a raid without weapons. This is why it is called a "shootout" and not a "shooting". Shoutout means both sides have guns and are shooting at each other.
I can tell you with 100% confidence that there is at least 1 helicopter on standby somewhere waiting to fly Cyril to nowhere... yet... here, these policemen are walking on foot, no air support. Considering ANC budgets 3 times on VIP protection for themselves what they spend on the entire SA population's police... it's no surpise.
But the DA supports illegal immigration and these Zama zamas are illegal foreigners. Check the DA stance on the deportation of illegal immigrants then come back and tell us who people vote for.
@@francoisdutoit3360don’t be a doos china, be laka 😊 Some people genuinely don’t have t shirts let’s not make fun of them it’s poor form. We need everyone we can get to join the opposition and remove this socialist corrupt party’s majority rule.
This looks like a matter that requires the immediate attention of SANDF. But CR is only quick to unleash them against an invisible enemy. At this rate, CR and Bheki will send the police to deal with an invading enemy force.
About time! sad that people must die before the government does something. All illegal activities, taxi drivers, and mafia must be detained and kicked out of SA.
One thing that cross my mind,why do the law enforcement want to arrest people who are shooting at them? That's the Biggest question SAns don't be stupid my fellow SAns.
Can someone with the correct knowledge please explain what it means if illegal mining operations are legalised? Does it mean that the government is losing the war and will succumb to the criminals by accepting their crimes, basically giving them permission to continue their criminal activity without having the burden of dealing with it? So if my understanding is correct, does it mean that if the fight against r*pe doesn’t end, r*pe will be made legal too?
NGOs wants them to be legalized. Especially foreign human rights lawyers, government can't do much because of them. They literally are campaigning for them to operate
Not shame 2 say we are not going any where,Malema pls talk 2 ur brothers as our mzansi ppll can live like this.Jooo South Africa the gov is behind this as they are the benefits,Army Army pls Ramaphosa pls deploy n take this foreigners out of SA,where is Nhlanhla Lux,
Why on earth doesn't the minister bring in the army? Only promises to the community in his speech and then left off without sending in enough SAPS members. OMG
Let's be honest about this for 29yrs very little was done to eradicate illegal mining activities n many criminal activities in SA WHY law enforcement officials, Indunas, municipal management n employees,politicians n business leaders are profiteering from criminal activities every where in SA CRY OUR BELOVED COUNTRY
They are not equipped against the Zama Zamas, because they were too busy filling their pockets than looking at the real problems, they've allowed for too long.
Correction South Africans. Zamazama is not only few people you saw last week on the surface. I mean underground there's thousands and thousands of people and also there's everything underground e.g tuck shops, clinics, bars, gun shops, kiosk, grave yard and different groups of maximum armed securities. So dont be fooled by media cause what's on surface truely doesn't correspond with what's underground. Another thing underground Zama zamas they work under a critical condition e.g hot area, extremely dark, smells of shit, urine, dead bodies and methane gas. The only way to take out those Zama Zama gangs underground SA must deployed more than five thousand army.
Typical ANC, waiting until everything collapses and streets in Jhb explode before doing something. Lack of leadership, lack of management, lack of care for the country. But of course, illegal mining is only a symptom of the bigger problem and that is the ANC's failure to grow the economy and create employment. And that of course is due to their disastrous policies of BEE and land expropriation, which have chased away investors.
They left it so long that it will take years if not decades to sort out. Our borders are non existent police are only reactive after the fact and never follow through consistently and continously there are many many more Zama Zamas that will continue once police move out.
😂 they're taunting these cops, they having fun at work the zama zama people. They obviously know SAPS is looking for them high and low, but they don't suspend the operations for the time being. Making me think that they have the capacity to retaliate or even defeat our cops.
We are only left with JMPD, can Mr Ramaphosa step down so that i can take over, we don't have a president anymore, imagine having JMPD as our last line of defence for our people, and Job well done JMPD, salute!
So a criminal syndicate that is performing acts of terror is not being advocated for by the MMC of police for their illegal operations to be legalized? What's next, legalizing heist crews? These illegal miners are illegal because they do not have a mining license which requires a mining operation to ensure that: - All safety protocols are followed for both the mine workers and the environment. - No criminal activity is performed in the mining operation. - All the mine workers are legal citizens and have legal permits to work in South Africa - demographic quotas are met (majority staff must be originally South African, not foreign workers). - All equipment used in the operation is safety compliant - All taxes and levies are paid to the government, including tax on salaries of workers who qualify for tax. - Health tests are performed on workers regularly to check their fitness to continue working. - and many other requirements. So if these illegal miners where doing all of those things, they would have already been given the paperwork to do their mining lawfully. The fact that they are "illegal" means they are intentionally breaking the law, they are not interested in mining legally.
This is a sketch. There's just no way! If the police wanted to arrest these Zama Zamas they would have done it. You can't tell me the state could be defeated by a bunch of Zama Zamas in a gun fight.
Are illegal miners not foreigners?So they will be given rights to own mining powers in South Africa while South Africans are just watching?U are not thinking straight
Basotho are the main zama zama here in South Africa and Moza and zims ,bits time our leaders dace those countries and tell the true especially basotho it was revealed that basotho government is fundithis guys who do illegal mines.
Mr President won't deploy the army, but when citizens are just protesting he is quick to deploy the army.
Never mind mere protesting, the army was deployed to ensure citizens stay indoors during level 5 lockdown! If they applied such force at the borders, we wouldn’t be dealing with this problem!
@@shaunie7473 2020-2022 were two years when people's rights were totally stripped. That's how we were shown all over the world that politicians and leaders don't care about humans. Their power turns them into mini-gods!!
@@shaunie7473literally 💔
This is a complete embarrassment for any state🤦🏼♂️ South Africa is a joke. In Marikana they were quick to exert maximum force against citizens striking for a mere pay hike
💔
SAPS ARE THE BEST IN THE WHOLE WORLD
@@hihello7014no STF is the best...it's a very elite small branch of the police...majority of SAPS do nothing....they just wanted the job but will never risk their lives to do it.
That’s what they usually do. Their citizens will be dealt with harshly, yet an extremely lenient approach is taken towards criminals. Someone breaks into your house and you kill the person, you’ll be in jail within hours.
@shaunie7473 lol getting arrested doesn't mean you will go to jail...depends on the circumstances in which you had to kill intruders
Operation Dudula has been saying but were called xenophobic... Glad now the media is showing the extent of this instead of gaslighting SA'ns. SANDF should be deployed in all the mining areas. The Police are overwhelmed & outnumbered.
Yes, but they need to fix the borders too because these illegals will be arrested, deported and back within 24 hours.
They left thus for too ... long,now these people have planted their roots, they are even oblivious of the crime they are committing
Ja..same as farm murders , killing our food resources 💔💜help them all please God
Better take it to the icc. How many true sa citizens lost their lives through this.
That’s not the major food resource
Malema must go and help the police there... Is it not, he advocated that non-South Africans should find creative ways of entering the country...
He won’t, because that’s him fighting people from his lineage. I believe his father was Zimbabwean.
@@shaunie7473 True i have proof that "not Malema" Marema comes from Zimbabwe.
Is the zama zamas not from lesothi, zimbabwe and mozambique? Why do they not mine for diamonds in lesotho? Maybe their countries dont have a free range like ours and their justice system is more solid than south africa. We need the icc to intervene here. This is an injustice to human rights.
@@shaunie7473Maybe if he was a trained police officer he would be there don’t you think?
@@Professor_Stark It’s unlike him not to be front and center at such matters. Remember not too long ago he staged a nation wide protest against matters of national concern like electricity outages, even though he isn’t skilled nor qualified he took the lead? Illegal foreign miners are a PROBLEM, so one would expect him to stand up against it too, don’t you think? I mean he did invite foreigners to run a mock in SA anyway, so he must deal with his people!
The Minister of police has to be arrested 😢😢
Government should take stern action against the illegal miners and deploy sufficient number of police and armies.
True
Delusion
What an embarrassment this illegal activities has been allowed by the regime despite what Cele is saying police are on the back foot what a disgrace.
Using JMPD??? Where are SAPS? They are trained for this.
Also, if its being classified as terrorism, call in the army. They operate on a different level to the police and will clean up quicker than the cops could ever do it.
I think it's their OFF-DAY..............
Can you belief that these zama zamas are now actively in Kliensie deep in the western region of the Northern Cape province
We called for back up but they send two guys from pops 😢😢it's quite disturbing how there is no unity between saps and jmpd
If they retaliate, police have got authority to use weapons
Police are already using weapons. There is never an instance where police conduct a raid without weapons.
This is why it is called a "shootout" and not a "shooting". Shoutout means both sides have guns and are shooting at each other.
Where is the EFF to protest for their foreign friends?
hungry loin
The MMC for safety is an EFF deployee he is the one who is busy with this operations
The ANC is busy setting up an investigation....
@@SenzoBblessings please elaborate and send links. I would like more information.
Childish
GAYTON MCKENZIE HAS MY VOTE NEXT YEAR!!!
Why are they not using drones to trace these criminals instead of chasing after them
We all know they won't think to that extent 😂😂
I can tell you with 100% confidence that there is at least 1 helicopter on standby somewhere waiting to fly Cyril to nowhere... yet... here, these policemen are walking on foot, no air support. Considering ANC budgets 3 times on VIP protection for themselves what they spend on the entire SA population's police... it's no surpise.
Perhaps it's time to send in the South African Defence Force to protect South Africa's sovereignty.
but who will then stand around and do nothing?
You can't send soldiers for police work!!
@@francoisdutoit3360lol😂😂😂
If they can shoot at our police, qhat about the citizens. One day they will clean out some neighborhoods.
Malema's brodas
Really?
@@reversewithpoetry4175 YUP!
During covid, the army was deployed on civilians for law and order. It doesnt make sense why no Army is not deployed to attend this issue.
People will still vote for EFF and ANC.
No.... never. Next Time DA.
but what will happen to all those free T-shirts?
But the DA supports illegal immigration and these Zama zamas are illegal foreigners. Check the DA stance on the deportation of illegal immigrants then come back and tell us who people vote for.
Or continue to be apathetic and not vote at all, not realising that our votes are the only tool we have to fix this failing state.
@@francoisdutoit3360don’t be a doos china, be laka 😊
Some people genuinely don’t have t shirts let’s not make fun of them it’s poor form. We need everyone we can get to join the opposition and remove this socialist corrupt party’s majority rule.
Where are the drones?😮😮 eNCA should invest in drones..this is too risky for Jeno
I don’t think there is a county in the whole world that is undermined by foreigners like South Africa🤞🏾
So agree. Poor khoisan people.
We are tired in our streets they do ad they want carting beers laughing i stay in Orlando East pls come help us 😢
You can say that again bafo
High discipline...High moral...KEEP IT UP JMPD🙏🏼
This looks like a matter that requires the immediate attention of SANDF. But CR is only quick to unleash them against an invisible enemy. At this rate, CR and Bheki will send the police to deal with an invading enemy force.
About time! sad that people must die before the government does something. All illegal activities, taxi drivers, and mafia must be detained and kicked out of SA.
No wonder there are talks of a tax revolt.
This is beyond SAPS, please release to them SANDF. Just like the truck driver were given to SANDF lately
Needed, 20 ex Recce soldiers from the 1980s. No more Zama Zamas.
yes i agree with you!!!! This one's don't know how the catch ..zama zama's 😂🤣
They should deploy the army on this one they are sitting and doing nothing
Blame the GOLD mafia not the Zamazamas
One thing that cross my mind,why do the law enforcement want to arrest people who are shooting at them? That's the Biggest question SAns don't be stupid my fellow SAns.
Can someone with the correct knowledge please explain what it means if illegal mining operations are legalised? Does it mean that the government is losing the war and will succumb to the criminals by accepting their crimes, basically giving them permission to continue their criminal activity without having the burden of dealing with it? So if my understanding is correct, does it mean that if the fight against r*pe doesn’t end, r*pe will be made legal too?
Good points!!
NGOs wants them to be legalized. Especially foreign human rights lawyers, government can't do much because of them. They literally are campaigning for them to operate
@@kemmoneR Which NGOs and why would they dictate to government?
Well done EFF 👏
We have a weak state😭
Not shame 2 say we are not going any where,Malema pls talk 2 ur brothers as our mzansi ppll can live like this.Jooo South Africa the gov is behind this as they are the benefits,Army Army pls Ramaphosa pls deploy n take this foreigners out of SA,where is Nhlanhla Lux,
Unfortunately, our government has the backbone of a Jelly Baby.
Some people blame Bheki Cele but the province has an MEC of safety and security. Some ANC cadres are getting paid for doing nothing.
Always a government solution - incorporate criminals into normal society
Remember to aim for center mass. Guns at low ready and keep scanning for threats. Stay safe out there boys.
Why on earth doesn't the minister bring in the army? Only promises to the community in his speech and then left off without sending in enough SAPS members. OMG
Let's be honest about this for 29yrs very little was done to eradicate illegal mining activities n many criminal activities in SA WHY law enforcement officials, Indunas, municipal management n employees,politicians n business leaders are profiteering from criminal activities every where in SA CRY OUR BELOVED COUNTRY
They are not equipped against the Zama Zamas, because they were too busy filling their pockets than looking at the real problems, they've allowed for too long.
Hire Zulus , give them guns they will drive everyone home
It is real only Zulus can fight this war with their Juju man's, l trust them
😮😮😮😮
You will be standing around like that. In a group. You invite to be shoot at😅
cele trained them
Where are the news drones of eNcA. We're in the time of the 4th industrial Revolution and no drones🤔
It's sad that these police have no idea of how to conduct a raid. Were are the stopper groups?
Welcome back Bafadile!
@@aichess658 Who knows? Maybe a very very long leave.
Correction South Africans. Zamazama is not only few people you saw last week on the surface. I mean underground there's thousands and thousands of people and also there's everything underground e.g tuck shops, clinics, bars, gun shops, kiosk, grave yard and different groups of maximum armed securities.
So dont be fooled by media cause what's on surface truely doesn't correspond with what's underground.
Another thing underground Zama zamas they work under a critical condition e.g hot area, extremely dark, smells of shit, urine, dead bodies and methane gas.
The only way to take out those Zama Zama gangs underground SA must deployed more than five thousand army.
Malema said Madiba is a sellout. Malema is a traitor and a sellout
Typical ANC, waiting until everything collapses and streets in Jhb explode before doing something. Lack of leadership, lack of management, lack of care for the country. But of course, illegal mining is only a symptom of the bigger problem and that is the ANC's failure to grow the economy and create employment. And that of course is due to their disastrous policies of BEE and land expropriation, which have chased away investors.
Sizokuthula must go there
So surprising our so called next president is as quiet as dead .😂😂😂
Bro! I just passed that area before it happened 😢
They left it so long that it will take years if not decades to sort out. Our borders are non existent police are only reactive after the fact and never follow through consistently and continously there are many many more Zama Zamas that will continue once police move out.
How can they legalize criminality what is up with this country and to illegal foreigners nogal Im very confused!
Bring back the old riot squad and members this problem will be gone overnight!
What is zamas zamas
Lmao!! 😂😂 “ police don’t have power”😅
Bro I swear this country is a joke
The government should have taken action a long time ago, not to wait until the problem got out of hand,Cele the Minster of saps must go.
The police don't Stand a chance against the Zama Zama's they're like the Wagner Group from Russia
The president should just fire bheki cele and apoint fit personel to tackle crime in SA
Not even one helicopter helping to locate Yhoo South Africa is a joke 😲Those JMPD officials can't get those people alone
Or a drone
Vice News has a video on illegal mining in South-Africa, from NINE YEARS ago😒
They must arrest da managers and is a big shame South Africans are da ones who hired them, dis poor sothos must expose them once
Our metro police are in action bigup 👊
Why our government is not deploying military?
Because we have an inactive and stupid government who just khow how to lead a luxury life .
Completely destroy the machinery.!
Failures of the ANC growing and growing.
😢😢😢😢 South Africa ne...
😂 they're taunting these cops, they having fun at work the zama zama people. They obviously know SAPS is looking for them high and low, but they don't suspend the operations for the time being. Making me think that they have the capacity to retaliate or even defeat our cops.
Pump water into the old mine shafts
Its been years now the SA government knw that this rivalry is rife but then nothing has been done while in covid days it was easy to deploy the Army
Only 10 cops lol😂
😂😂😂😂
Really...
Where are the saps and soldiers
Legalize for what?? 😢
ke leboga JMPD goba Matla go lwana lê this criminals ,unlike this coward saps
We are only left with JMPD, can Mr Ramaphosa step down so that i can take over, we don't have a president anymore, imagine having JMPD as our last line of defence for our people, and Job well done JMPD, salute!
Police have r5 assault rifles vs ak47 and r5s...so they not underequipped for this situation
taking a wild guess, we need more police
Nope. 10 honest reliable men of their word, who will truly die for justice and their families. They will make a plan.
🙏
Why is it JMPD that's dealing with this and not SAPS and SANDF???????
So a criminal syndicate that is performing acts of terror is not being advocated for by the MMC of police for their illegal operations to be legalized?
What's next, legalizing heist crews? These illegal miners are illegal because they do not have a mining license which requires a mining operation to ensure that:
- All safety protocols are followed for both the mine workers and the environment.
- No criminal activity is performed in the mining operation.
- All the mine workers are legal citizens and have legal permits to work in South Africa
- demographic quotas are met (majority staff must be originally South African, not foreign workers).
- All equipment used in the operation is safety compliant
- All taxes and levies are paid to the government, including tax on salaries of workers who qualify for tax.
- Health tests are performed on workers regularly to check their fitness to continue working.
- and many other requirements.
So if these illegal miners where doing all of those things, they would have already been given the paperwork to do their mining lawfully. The fact that they are "illegal" means they are intentionally breaking the law, they are not interested in mining legally.
Bring in the concrete trucks. Finished. Pour concrete down those holes and let's call it a day.
Waste of Police Force,where is SANDF to assist
This is a sketch. There's just no way! If the police wanted to arrest these Zama Zamas they would have done it. You can't tell me the state could be defeated by a bunch of Zama Zamas in a gun fight.
Hai law and order its problem in Mzanzi! And tell me who is to be blamed 😢
Where are the drones?
Who are the zama zamas ?
Metro yiyenza kancane... we need TRT there
Making illegal mining legal? South Africa is a joke
Where is the Army, what do they do?
Are illegal miners not foreigners?So they will be given rights to own mining powers in South Africa while South Africans are just watching?U are not thinking straight
Bheki Cele no chopa no drone...😢😢 Hai suka maan
Where are the police Helicopters??
Or even Drones?
Our law and construction is weakening this country
When MMC says he is going to legalise this what does he mean .These people are from Lesotho what about South Africans?
They just get taxed so heavy, that there is ni money left for survival😢
Drones??? Where are they...saps helicopter 👀.
Basotho are the main zama zama here in South Africa and Moza and zims ,bits time our leaders dace those countries and tell the true especially basotho it was revealed that basotho government is fundithis guys who do illegal mines.
If they legalise what is illegal what else they would have to legalise🤷♂️??
Bank robbers😂😂😂😂😂 drugs😂😂😂😂😂....
@@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087 very true, drugs were on top of my mind🤣🤣🤣
Police should use drones to find these illegal miners
Amaaaaaaaaandla ngawethu phantsi ngamaforeiners phantsi ningakhali ma south africa amahle bandlula omkhulu bethu kwincinezelo yama bhulu ngokubambana nathi sakugqitha ngokubambana naku le Amen
They need to deploy private security. These JMPD members don’t look fit for task. Look at the barrels pointed at the ground.
Mmmm....we could ask russian army to help