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CAT Is Going EV! Full Tour Of 500kW+ Chargers, Construction / Mining Equipment, & Battery Storage
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- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2024
- Thanks to John Thomas from CAT for taking the time to discuss their electric product line showcased at CES 2024!
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I love a person who knows what they're selling. I can't tell you how many times I went to an event and the salespeople were just repeating what was on the sign.
you need more off-highway electrification content. This was great!
Charging our EV6 off our RV generator: ruclips.net/video/PCdN8S3jZGE/видео.html
CAT's a great company, just wish they would embrace the Right2Repair philosophy unlike John-Deere. ;)
@@BillAnt So TRUE
I agree !
This was super great! John was knowledgeable and overall a super great guy who is in the right place.
i really wanted to know why he made that face when kyle said we can have that kind of charging in trucks aswell. What is the degradation looking like on those battries?
I don't know what "face" are you referring to. Could you point out time of the vid so I can look? I'm not sure which part you have in mind.
@@patriksteffan2060 face at 21:50. context starting at 21:34
@@a-don13 When I saw it I didn't think of it as anything strange. Just face of something like: "Yeah other can too if they manage to build something like that- nothing really stops them"
Degradation doesn't maybe know even them bc it's new. I think the high performance is possible bc of : High voltage, high cobalt for cathode and silicon for anode - I heard those have a positive impact on fast charging, great cooling - industrial machinery so that would explain too.
Wow this guy is a great communicator and professional and knowledgeable salesman. Every possible negative was dealt with a professional and reasonable touch. With people like him I'm confident that CAT will grow as things change. Great stuff CAT!
It was bring your mom and daughter to work day. 22:00
This was great! You can understand that Cat had a head start with using large electric motors in their mining trucks, but this demonstrates that they didn’t stop with diesel power. Good show, Kyle/Alyssa! Congrats on 200k subs!
John was amazing! So much knowledge and he can present it so elloquently.
Definitely go to the Cat proving ground. John is a great communicator.
Excellent report.
John sure knows his EV stuff.
Had no idea CAT was doing any of this.
Thanks!
In other words, the diesel machines run all day but are only operating for half that time, so 4-6 operational hours does the job. This sort of pragmatic and practical analysis is how many businesses are assessing electrification I imagine. Brilliant
exactly, so many arguments delivered especially for the crowd that thinks electrification really needs 1:1 Diesel/batteries. I'm certain they or other major producers also involved in agriculture will deliver solutions so that a harvester can run 16h a day with a couple of standardized HVDC powerpacks being swapped next to the field (either rented or for universal use around the farm optimizing the use of peak PV production.
This video was great, thanks for showing us some of the less seen battery technologies out there! Love what CAT is doing, and John was so much fun to listen to, I could listen to him explain these systems for hours. Thanks much!
Yes, please do more of this content. This is awesome.
Fantastic!!! Would love to see more content with this gentleman, CAT, and heavy equipment!!
Great show. Thought I would share a story that is related and involving giant EV equipment from Europe that I saw about a year ago. There is a mining operation in Switzerland which uses the biggest earth mover in the world (at that time at least) that will only need to be charged once and will work like the perpetual motion machine. They Charged it up at the base of a mountain, and drove it up empty to be loaded with rock or marble at the top. The earth mover then brings the load down the mountain to be unloaded and process or loaded to trucks. The regeneration breaking coming down is more that the energy needed to go back up the mountain empty, and thus on one charge, the equipment will continue to work without further charging. Reminds me of my Dad's story of walking uphill in the snow to school in the snow and uphill home. Only this one is true. Take care and keep the information coming. Thanks
Great Job Kyle. As CAT engineer I was so happy to see some solid CAT content on the channel! We have a lot going on in the electrification space.
Excellent interview with John on the CAT products in electrification and love it. We need more of this. Look at the size of the 64Kwh battery pack? That can easily be used in conjunction with an inverter to power your home for days with a nice form factor. Thanks Kyle for sharing this.
Really cool to see what's going on with the construction/earth-moving side of things. Thanks to John and Out of Spec!
One of the best if not the best presentation/ interview you’ve done, Kyle.
Used to work for CAT and I remember the talkings of this process starting around 2017. Pretty cool to see it finally happening. Super interesting video, thanks
I think a video of all that stuff in action would be really cool, and if you can get a ride in one of those mining trucks the size of a cathedral that would be double points.
Great video, love to see coverage of these EV adjacent areas including heavy duty trucking!
Go CAT!!! Yes to more CAT content!!!
Long time listener, first time caller!😂 I get it, John, because I'm an old man too. I don't know that Kyle got it.
The Peoria Proving Grounds is just about an hour down the road from the Rivian factory in Normal. They also have one in Tucson - probably doing testing for these in both places :)
This is was awesome! Thanks John for the wonderful showings and I would definitely like to see more of this
This was really interesting and I'd love to see more videos and info on what CAT and others are doing including demo videos of the equipment running.
A machine you have to add many tons of counterweights to anyway was basically the perfect use case for battery power, it's amazing it took this long.
I own & operate a Terex PT50 (equivalent to a ASV RC50) compact skid steer loader, and it would be a FAR superior machine if it were battery electric. I'm currently burning 6 litres of diesel per hour in my Terex and it's very noisy in the cab. An electric motor driving each track would deliver a higher travel speed and greater torque, so I could drive this machine up slopes with a fully loaded bucket (all up around 4 tonnes) with no reduction in speed. Plus it would be quiet. I want one tomorrow!
Looking at usage profiles / analytics to help determine your engineering choices. I love it when companies to this, rather than saying "this is the way we've always done things! Our machines must make big 'vroom-vroom noises' ". Thumbs up for CAT for that bit alone. 👍
Edit: excellent interview and subscribed because of this. Also my compliments to John. This is really the kind of knowledgable person you would want in your company for this kind of work. 10/10 would buy from him and CAT if I had a mining or construction business. 😆
Never gonna need these myself, but would be interesting to see in action!
I'd definitely love to see you look at Cat's stuff yearly to keep up with things we don't normally see. Also go out on a job site with an actual customer without Cat over your shoulder.
This was your sexiest episode to date. I love large mining equipment due to a longtime mining connection.
Super excited to see this stuff going battery-electric so we don't have to haul those long heavy electric cables around.
For those not in the know, in many mines electric equipment is used for various reasons, and today those trail a huge cable.
Looking forward to seeing more of this content!
Fantastic video, the electrification of mining is such an important area that needs to be covered. It is certainly a critical cog in the EV and renewable wheel and one that the naysayers keep throwing in our faces.
lol!!!! which naysayer?! diesel is literaly what makes everything possible from batteries to renewables to transportation(maritime, aviation, agriculture......) what are the useless EVs doing!? even to make roads, bridges, power stations, the grid, water supply......
This has got to be the best electrification content I’ve seen in ten years!
This is quite remarkable. The entire presentation was done in a single recording. Top notch!
John was awesome, super exciteable and knowledageble, I liked seeing the other CAT employees at the end like "should we intervene?" and the other one was like "nah, let him cook, he's got this"
I think they might have listened in as not all the more casual enquries at the stand run as deep as the conversation we just heard
This is cool A lot of the time on a job site they will have a Spider Box which is Power Distribution Box: 120/240V AC, 30 A Amps, L14-30P, (4) L5-20R GFCI, 3 Poles, 4 Wires so they could easily hook up a portable charger to it with the appropriate cable adapters
John was great. Personable and informative.
This is really fascinating. Thank you Kyle for covering non car EV content, hope to see more! Maybe look into electric Tractors, also v cool!
Wow . . . Cats really put forth the Right Guy to present their Product Lineup. Nice to see Cat's Rep has
a real handle on the Tech going on at his company. Super Presentation!
Yo, I need that thing in my backyard!!!
Most of the small equipment will never get used for actual work more than 6 hours a day. From a maintenance cost perspective alone it makes a whole lot of sense to have electric over a diesel.
Congratulations to CAT, a great company doing great things. Can't wait to see some big BEVs at the Proving Ground😃
Love this content! More off-highway electrification videos pleaaaaaase!
CCS ( ISO15118 ) can be implemented for lower voltage(some chargers even do)! Even with this connector.
Thanks for a view on this part of transformation to an electric powered future.
Great content Kyle ! Greetings from Belgium.
Great presentation! I would like to see these machines in action, and get real-world comments from the workers to see its benefits.
Yes, more of this. For two reasons. 1) the sustainable energy transition is coming to construction and mining equipment too; and until quality EV tech channels start following & communicating advancements in these markets specifically, your EV automotive expertise will really do a great job to initiate coverage. 2) wrt SpaceX Mars missions & planetary explorations-which Starship is going to enable-neither Tesla nor SpaceX has not had the time/focus to develop these EV alternatives that will be required. No diesel or gasoline on Mars. Caterpillar already has the mining/excavating equipment experience! With Cat moving into EV tech now, CatEV equipment become instant starting points (with telerobotic or autonomous control, and non-air-cooled heating/cooling solutions) for the sorts of equipment that will be needed right away to operate in the low-pressure environment of Mars to support SpaceX early missions.
Cool to see what other industries are doing in electrification.
Love the analogy to the EV space 10 years ago. Will be interesting to see some of these machines re-built from the ground up as a full "EV Rethink".
Also what is the min DC voltage for NACS?
Not running ice under ground seems like a good thing.
Retired electrican and ran great CAT gen sets up to 2,000 KW. Nobody is supplying accurate running times for EV when its zero degree F outside and you have to provide heat & a defroster for the driver. Somebody did a U tube vidio on a EV truck pulling his maximum load of 11,000 #'s during cold weather and could not travel even 50% of rated battery distance without towing a load. Great ideal having air cooled on the 700 amp plug & cable.
The mini excavator looks like it has an old arcade coin acceptor on the side. Pay as you go.
Those are great concepts. thanks for sharing.
one could even realize a true of grid construction. run it via solar and a big buffer battery.
or if the AC connection is weak. trickle charge it over night, when no one is working and you are set for the day.
thanks
I am fairly certain there are some missing details about mining. I remember visiting the coal mine exhibit in the Chicago museum and mines in California and a lot of equipment underground was running off AC power. They just drug the power cables around behind the machines, of course the machines didn’t drive very much, mostly just pushing forward through the rock. Also the huge outdoor strip mining machines were AC powered. What is novel is a battery.
let's hope this shiny new equipment will be used for anything but digging up more coal
@@velotillit will dig whatever is in demand.
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Great camera work
Funny thing - I was just looking at what it would take to migrate a CAT299D3 track-skidsteer with a blown engine to electric (umbilical). Replacing the 110HP diesel with a 100HP 3-phase 600VAC inverter duty motor, inverter, and step down transformer, cable reel, and step-up transformer (23kV - to 600V)... would cost about as much as a new machine. but would also work for other machines in the same basic power range (like a Cat317 excavator, etc...)
Why 23kV? Transmission (umbilical) cable weight versus length - figuring a 100kW end of wire load, 600VAC would need 166A of transmission, 23kV only needs 4.5A of transmission (much smaller gauge cable like 14AWG, about 3/4" diameter, so more length on a reel).
One complication is that with an umbilical is you either need to follow it back through a work site, or be able to rewind it and manully move it around obstacles (which if one used an intermediate cable closer to the work area, could mean 1-mile of working range). The former is easy with GPS navigation on-board, the latter easy with a 12-48V spool motor running from an on-board battery.
Love it. Definitely give me more.
I wonder why you guys didn’t talk about wired mini excavators, like connecting your phone to the wall, and still using it… they have these in Europe excavator connected to the grid.
The plug in toy look isn't what they're trying to foster here. They want a unit competitive with their ICE equipment. Not tethered to the local grid.
I would love to see some of these machines in action. Thanks for another great video!
Mind blown! Yes, go to CAT!
Can the 301.9 run (at least in stationary mode [hydraulics, but no tracks/traversing] with an extension cord attached so that the battery is being charged while doing work?
Hey Kyle, only good feedback. Please slow down a bit and think about getting high quality camera to expand viewership!
I can see this being good for mining, this can also eliminate the fumes that those workers are breathing in those mines from the diesel engines! Very cool indeed!
Incredible episode. Please go to the proving grounds!
This was great! CAT has always been pretty forward thinking and it's awesome to see they are going all in on electric.
11:50: There is a standard covering 50 to 1000V, it's called CHAdeMO. The plug also supports up to 400A.
CCS lowest voltage is 150V.
Amazing! CAT has always been the best..and still the best going forward.
That's awesome!! And of course we want to see this stuff in action! See if CAT can arrange something with you and a customer :)
Great job K, when you said CAT is leading the way in electric equipment. I wondered about your due diligence on that comment or did you shoot from the hip like "brandon" did. This guy is the best darn speaker ive ever heard.
Super interesting.
Wow, very insightful video. John was great at explaining everything.
This integration of Battery Electric Equipment requires more time. First time in a while I've felt raced watching an Out of Spec vid. Looks like it's time for a new channel Kyle. Also you could include Battery Energy Storage Systems, please? Consider visiting Edison Motors in BC.
I‘d love a range test on that big Cat :D
Any discussion on marine packages? I have a 72ft commercial boat and would love to swap out the old 3412 to some sort of hybrid system.
Cool to see these go electric. Less exhaust in the work area is always good.
The last time I heard this amount of hormonal enthusiasm, I was at a girl's grade-school volley ball game.
Have at it teeners, just keep the CAT V-16 diesel genset handy to produce all of those electron gulping EVs
Much more!!!
Great! Excellent conversation there.
More!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was fantastic. CAT is doing some incredible stuff.
11:58 Sus. Caterpillar is probably the number one violator when it comes to right to repair and open standards when it comes to this kind of stuff. Unfortunately we need to the government to step in and force these companies to stood making hyper locked down specific software/hardware for the sole purpose of blocking 3rd party suppliers.
Nobody seems to talk about where the energy will come from and who is going to work on this stuff ? There’s already a shortage of qualified technicians and highly trained educated technicians.
The energy source would be the same as in other situations where electricity is used. Some countries produce primarily from fossil sources, others have nuclear, others have hydro. So there is nothing mysterious here.
@@Dqtube Basically, there won't be the energy, infrastructure or tech advancement to charge a 25 ton excavator. Yes, nothing mysterious at all.
@@Dqtube interesting how you try to make me look like an idiot yet NO SHIT SHERLOCK but a construction site say a housing development or new warehouse build doesn’t have electricity ran to it yet or the machines are on the other side of the site and the apprentice ran it dead now it has to be moved in the mud zone from hell seems like a lot of extra equipment and steps now we have to add costly generators to charge equipment so now you’re using diesel makes no sense in the long run
@@AkioWasRight interesting how you try to make me look like an idiot yet NO SHIT SHERLOCK but a construction site say a housing development or new warehouse build doesn't have electricity ran to it yet or the machines are on the other side of the site and the apprentice ran it dead now it has to be moved in the mud zone from hell seems like a lot of extra equipment and steps now we have to add costly generators to charge equipment so now you're using diesel makes no sense in the long run
@@AkioWasRight The current mining sites already have their own source of electricity. You may be surprised, but the Bagger 288, which is a 13,500t (29,800,000 lb) large mining beast, is also electric. So the industry knows what to do.
No one has also said that it is possible to go electric across the industry and that where it is possible it would be immediately. The lifespan of these machines is in the decades, so fleet renewal will take a few more decades, so there will be no blackout due to EV mining in the near future.
CAT is exactly who we would expect to do Electrification for Miners.
Great video !!
Diesel electric has been around for decades. It's not hard to imagine the leap it will take to get to replacing the diesel with electric in some industries. Excellent interview.
Exciting technology from Caterpillar!
Excellent interview. More please!
This has been great. It would be an excellent continuation of our learning about CATs electric expertise to explore their world deeper. Yes, go to the proving grounds and play "TONKA" in the sandbox and take them up on all their offers for further learning.
TOTALLY
Great job J.T.!!
Interesting , Thank You . A fine example of developing the Equipment that Owners and Operators want and need. PLEASE Remember that EVEY thing MUST be Repairable in the FIELD , ALL PARTS MUST be avalble.
Wonderful review, electric heavy equipment is well on its way. :)
Solid . 🎉thank you for this it was very eye opening
Yes this is Awesome! I love all those products, you are awesome!
an amazing video eye opening
I love the approach CAT is taking and I think they are positioning themselves well. There are still a lot of people saying that not everything will switch to electric but they should just wait and see. I bet by 2040 it will be extremely rare to see diesel construction equipment. Also CAT please make a pickup truck!
Why not just NACS for charging for the excavator? Tesla has both AC and DC and should be able to do DC 48V and I assume the CAT already has a stepdown for the J1772
Thanks. Deere, Volvo & Case have EV heavy equipment also. And others that I’m not thinking of. It’s a really interesting business segment.
Case CE has some really interesting products here for sure. Don’t know if that extends to IH or New Holland
great video