Forsberg is 9th all time in points per game. The wildest part is that most of those points were produced in the dead puck era! Most of the 8 players above him played when it was much easier to score.
Marginally better imo. I'm not saying Canada won't win, anybody can win but if I bet money , it would be on the US right now. Goalies matter a lot in a short tournament like this, that have won a best on best since the 90-ties. Mike Richter Dominik Hasek Martin Broduer Henrik Lundqvist Roberto Luongo Carey Price Currently Canadas goaltending is the worst it's ever been. It's the worst of all teams in tournament in fact . And I still put them slightly below the US in terms of odds because yes they have McDavid, MacKinnon and Makar.
As for Sweden's defense, Dahlin, Forsling, Hedman and Ekholm are no-brain top four. Bottom two? EK65 is high risk-reward. If the young gun Axel Sandin-Pellika was used to the smaller rink he could very well be on the table. He is doing great in SHL right now.
@@yoooei5792 Lol what is this guy smoking. They have leftout Lindholm, OEL, Adam Larsson and I can mention a bunch that could have made it to this team. Whos Sandin Pellikan?
@ I see, Swedish Leauge is good. The leauge produces talents. Also Swedish teams wins Champions Hockey, which is the hockey version of soccers Champions Leauge
You mean he should sit around and wait for PP ? He might have to sit and get cold for , say fifteen minutes ,and then just pop up and produce ? Never gonna happen. I actually agree with Garpenlov no matter how good Karlsson has been throughout his career. Too many sloppy plays last seasons , sometimes it´s like he doesn´t care if his team is scored on.
Sweden is a mess. Zibanejad is a ghost, so is EP40, EK65 is on a rapid decline and Forsberg is not on this season. Sweden is getting old, and Nylander can't do everything himself. The other guys needs to wake up.
There is no big hype about 4 nations in Sweden. Without the participation of Russia and other nations, there will never be a hype around the world. 4 Nations is only an income gimmick in Canada and the USA where the income comes mainly from the media in the USA. If it's not the Olympics, it's not really a tournament of value to most people around our globe or EU. I think the winner will be the USA because they are better than Canada and Canada has a huge weakness in their who will carry the role of the series' best goalkeeper. I have no idea who is selected for the Swedish team, I don't even think "we" beat Finland, if it's not the Olympics, I don't follow an advertising gimmick live from Sweden.
@@hampusjohansson5864 Peter? Eller programledaren? Programledaren för att han inte kan svenska uttal. Peter möjligtvis för att han är van vid att behöva amerikanisera sitt namn
@@ParA-ts2bm Ja, det var ett skämt. Helt enkelt för att amerikaner, trots att hela landet är invandrat från varenda land och kontinent. Inte kan uttala ett enda icke-engelskt namn korrekt. Rätt fascinerande faktiskt.
its beacause you are either to young or american, or both, winning the olympics back in the day was just as honorable as the cup, maybe even more since its only played every 4th year, unfortunatly the olympics havent been the best on best since like 2010, nowadays you could argue that Stanley cup is better.
Yeah it's probably because your're American. We Europeans follow the NHL a fair bit but our domestic Leagues. Stanley cup is great to win but it doesn't move any emotional needles here. Winning the Olympics however is an historic event. The olympics is also a bigger sport event than anything hockey can offer and the world cup also remains significant for some reason. I'd argue NHL does hockey as a sport a great disservice by not letting players play for their national team. If we want the sport to grow we need to make sure people can watch the best play against their national team.
Representing your country should mean more than any other trophy. Stanley cup might be the pinnacle of a persons career, but winning a trophy to your country have a significant deeper meaning. As a swedish person i follow SHL more than NHL. I couldn't care less if a player wins Stanley cup, my local society have no connections to any north american club NHL made all of you think that way because they prevent the best from participating in the olympics, unlike most other sports that have a break during the olympics to make it possible. Tbf, this 4 nation tournement was not treated greatly between 1996-2018 either. Don't understand what the fuzz is about.
Forsberg is 9th all time in points per game. The wildest part is that most of those points were produced in the dead puck era! Most of the 8 players above him played when it was much easier to score.
like lebron vs jordan --lebron plays in a baby era
The most complete hockey player of all time
What a Swede he is. Canadian here living in Sweden. It’s hilarious. If you know you know. He’s a beast! Knows way more than he lets on.
Who will you root for in the tournament?
Forsburg was some tough bastard
Forsberg looks like a great hire from TSN.👏
Does fit us quite well to be the underdog against the mighty americans and canadians.
I won't count out any of the four teams to win the upcoming Four Nations championship tho.
I think the US is even the favourite over Canada due to Hellebuyck, goalies is a weak spot for Canada.
No way Canada is better on every position except the goalie.
Marginally better imo. I'm not saying Canada won't win, anybody can win but if I bet money , it would be on the US right now.
Goalies matter a lot in a short tournament like this, that have won a best on best since the 90-ties.
Mike Richter
Dominik Hasek
Martin Broduer
Henrik Lundqvist
Roberto Luongo
Carey Price
Currently Canadas goaltending is the worst it's ever been. It's the worst of all teams in tournament in fact . And I still put them slightly below the US in terms of odds because yes they have McDavid, MacKinnon and Makar.
im just happy at this point that the best players each country play last time was 2014 grazy to think im waiting the olympics more 2026
As a swede: usa, canada, finland and sweden
As for Sweden's defense, Dahlin, Forsling, Hedman and Ekholm are no-brain top four. Bottom two? EK65 is high risk-reward. If the young gun Axel Sandin-Pellika was used to the smaller rink he could very well be on the table. He is doing great in SHL right now.
No he wouldn't be on the table lmao
@@yoooei5792 Lol what is this guy smoking. They have leftout Lindholm, OEL, Adam Larsson and I can mention a bunch that could have made it to this team. Whos Sandin Pellikan?
@@waryaking Axel Sandin Pellika plays for Swedish hockey league, probably the worst professional hockey League in Europe.
@ I see, Swedish Leauge is good. The leauge produces talents. Also Swedish teams wins Champions Hockey, which is the hockey version of soccers Champions Leauge
I would play Erik Karlsson only on the Powerplay.
You mean he should sit around and wait for PP ? He might have to sit and get cold for , say fifteen minutes ,and then just pop up and produce ? Never gonna happen. I actually agree with Garpenlov no matter how good Karlsson has been throughout his career. Too many sloppy plays last seasons , sometimes it´s like he doesn´t care if his team is scored on.
In short tournaments you need defense , Ek65 will drop the puck at the blue line leading to breakaway
If he plays with a team in front of him that supports him in every situation he can be the best again. Don't know if this Swedish team can do that tho
I like how TSN just pretends the IIHF WC doesn't exist and take place every year
Sweden is a mess. Zibanejad is a ghost, so is EP40, EK65 is on a rapid decline and Forsberg is not on this season.
Sweden is getting old, and Nylander can't do everything himself. The other guys needs to wake up.
EP40 is playing a whole lot better now although the team is struggling. If his form continues as it is right now there will be no problem.
There is no big hype about 4 nations in Sweden.
Without the participation of Russia and other nations, there will never be a hype around the world.
4 Nations is only an income gimmick in Canada and the USA where the income comes mainly from the media in the USA. If it's not the Olympics, it's not really a tournament of value to most people around our globe or EU.
I think the winner will be the USA because they are better than Canada and Canada has a huge weakness in their who will carry the role of the series' best goalkeeper. I have no idea who is selected for the Swedish team, I don't even think "we" beat Finland, if it's not the Olympics, I don't follow an advertising gimmick live from Sweden.
As a Swede, I'd say Canada > Sweden > USA > Finland. Connor McDavid alone will carry Canada
Olympics. By far.
Isn't that ForsBURG!?
Berg
@@ParA-ts2bm So why is he pronouncing it Burg then?
@@hampusjohansson5864 Peter? Eller programledaren? Programledaren för att han inte kan svenska uttal. Peter möjligtvis för att han är van vid att behöva amerikanisera sitt namn
@@ParA-ts2bm Ja, det var ett skämt. Helt enkelt för att amerikaner, trots att hela landet är invandrat från varenda land och kontinent. Inte kan uttala ett enda icke-engelskt namn korrekt. Rätt fascinerande faktiskt.
@hampusjohansson5864 Håller med. Galet fascinerande.
Maybe because I'm American, but the olympics don't mean crap compared to Stanley's Holy Chalice.
Ye no shit
yes its becasue youre american.
didnt the miracle on ice mean more than any cup doe? genuine question
its beacause you are either to young or american, or both, winning the olympics back in the day was just as honorable as the cup, maybe even more since its only played every 4th year, unfortunatly the olympics havent been the best on best since like 2010, nowadays you could argue that Stanley cup is better.
Yeah it's probably because your're American. We Europeans follow the NHL a fair bit but our domestic Leagues. Stanley cup is great to win but it doesn't move any emotional needles here. Winning the Olympics however is an historic event.
The olympics is also a bigger sport event than anything hockey can offer and the world cup also remains significant for some reason. I'd argue NHL does hockey as a sport a great disservice by not letting players play for their national team. If we want the sport to grow we need to make sure people can watch the best play against their national team.
Representing your country should mean more than any other trophy. Stanley cup might be the pinnacle of a persons career, but winning a trophy to your country have a significant deeper meaning. As a swedish person i follow SHL more than NHL. I couldn't care less if a player wins Stanley cup, my local society have no connections to any north american club
NHL made all of you think that way because they prevent the best from participating in the olympics, unlike most other sports that have a break during the olympics to make it possible. Tbf, this 4 nation tournement was not treated greatly between 1996-2018 either. Don't understand what the fuzz is about.