Making 577 Snider brass from Magtech 24 gauge brass shotshells

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @johnmepham4413
    @johnmepham4413 Год назад +13

    I like the way he points to the black powder container with the torch

  • @ryanlemons7831
    @ryanlemons7831 3 года назад +30

    It is so nice to watch a RUclips video and not have to sit through a fucken safety meeting before, during and after. When I saw that powder on the bench while you were annealing your brass I knew, that is one cool, level headed freedom loving dude right there.
    Thanks!

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 года назад +9

      Thank you man! I always seem to get some safety ranger that’s eager to point out some “minor” breech of safety Etiquette.

    • @ryanlemons7831
      @ryanlemons7831 3 года назад +2

      @@Everythingblackpowder ​ @Jake Harris the safety rangers never fail to shock me. I always expect them to be some overly protective mother who's turned to the internet because her kids have grown, moved on and rarely call. But nope, shockingly, It is always always a full grown man (rather - full grown adult male). Men don't behave like grade school hall monitors. haha

    • @user-ty3vd8qr5j
      @user-ty3vd8qr5j Месяц назад

      ​@ryanlemons7831 , what the safety Rangers are are NOT DUMBASSES. The video would've been much cooler if the torch had fallen over, quickly burning a hole in the Pyrodex can! Man what a video that would've been.
      Someone tell this joker too much lube causes dents in his brass, the 24 ga cases are 2.4", not 2.5". Please don't cut .50" off the cases based on misinformation. I wonder when the hero started reloading?
      As Bugs Bunny used to say... what a maroon.

    • @ryanlemons7831
      @ryanlemons7831 Месяц назад

      @@user-ty3vd8qr5j calm down Nacy.
      Everything is going to be okay Shela.
      You don’t have to wish Ill will and misfortune on others to feel better about what you lack.
      Keep that in mind.
      Hope your Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) improves and you get to feeling better darling 😘

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  Месяц назад +1

      Those little dents get fire formed after the first shot and are never seen again. Thanks for proving my point about the safety rangers being overreacting Karen’s. Get bent, prick.

  • @sharonrigs7999
    @sharonrigs7999 Год назад +7

    I was lucky enough to find some old Dominion .577 brass at a flea market years back. They all chambered just fine.
    I never bothered to get dies.
    I just use a tapered wooden dowel that I made to slightly open the mouth just enough to accept a .60 cal round ball.
    I re anneal every couple years

  • @Andy152R
    @Andy152R Год назад +6

    I bought my wife one in Afghanistan. I have shot it once. I just bought dies, bullet mold and have a machine shop at home to cut the shells. Thanks for the info!

    • @sergeantbigmac
      @sergeantbigmac 11 месяцев назад +2

      Sorry if this is random, but what was the process and your experiences like on bringing a firearm home from a deployment? Like did you have to get approval from your CO, what was the bringback paperwork like and what kindve stuff got approved or rejected that you saw? Also where did you buy, did you like just stroll into an Afghani market and buy whatever shit you saw? Sorry ive just always been curious about that.

    • @Andy152R
      @Andy152R 11 месяцев назад +1

      @sergeantbigmac so, since it was classified as a curio and relic firearm, all I had to do was mail it home from the post office. The local nationals had a shop on base in Bagram. When I was getting ready to leave theater, we flew to Bagram for our flight home. I just bought it and mailed it home. No permission required. I picked up a Snider and a Martini Henry for $400. Both are authentic and not Khyber Pass copies. The Martini is a Royal Kabul Arsenal variety, so all markings are in Arabic. Pretty cool.

  • @larryclark9380
    @larryclark9380 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for including the annealing process. I like the cordless drill with mandrel idea.

  • @Luzviminda777
    @Luzviminda777 3 года назад +13

    The recoil looked almost like modern nitro in speed , I've shoot big caliper smooth bore muskets here in Denmark and recoil felt like a push instead of a punch . If you get my foreign explanation... nice to be shooting with your ol' man .. that's life . God bless you both .

  • @George_Lewis
    @George_Lewis 8 месяцев назад +1

    I've been on an "Everything Black Powder" binge since finding your channel a week ago. Thank you for making the annealing process so easy. I resize 45-70 brass to a shortened version of the 11.15x60R and lost several while shooting. I didn't anneal them and two cases split lengthwise just ahead of the web. This should solve the problem.

  • @rre9121
    @rre9121 2 года назад +5

    Absolutely love shooting snider. I couldn't find any 24 gauge when mine came in, so I had to buy the machined brass.

  • @billrea66
    @billrea66 2 года назад +6

    I purchased an 1870 Enfield and now want to play with it .Since I'm also a new reloader , makes sense to reload .577 .Ordered Lee die set today ( $ 175.99 ) now I need the brass,etc .

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  2 года назад +5

      Glad to hear it! They are a blast to shoot. Track of the wolf usually has .577 snider brass in stock if you can’t find 24ga Magtech brass.

  • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
    @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 2 года назад +8

    Very elegant looking.
    I've seen someone make his own substitute .577 Snider casings by 3D printing them out of a blue TPU material, having like an upside down bottleneck shape inside, the thickwalled bottom having an embedded .38 Special casing to hold the primer and 60gr of Goex, with the large caliber lead projectile fitting on the wider end.
    Looks a bit odd, and holding a bare case you'd notice it's kinda squishy, but that squishy quality allowed it to obturate properly, and to also hold together and extract cleanly.

  • @JWheeler331
    @JWheeler331 Год назад +4

    Man those just look fun to shoot. That 120g charge looks like it packs a punch.

  • @westcovinadodge
    @westcovinadodge 2 года назад +3

    I kink about one out of 5 when forming 577/450, it goes into the snider brass bucket.
    Thanks for the video and congrats on 5000 subs

  • @453421abcdefg12345
    @453421abcdefg12345 Год назад +4

    How did those non solid head cases stand up to 120 grs? I have used the 24G cases for M-H 577-450 but they seem a little weak, and they need cleaning as soon as you shoot them as they cant stand much corrosion. That sizing wax is essential for case forming, but it seems to last forever, funny thing about the case trimming is that I always hold the case the other way round, I lodge the rim in one of the chuck jaw grooves. Stay safe! Chris B.

  • @brettduffy7931
    @brettduffy7931 3 года назад +3

    Thank you these are one of the few Firearms I can own and I know that the animals very hard to find now I can make it possibly

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 года назад +1

      Happy to help

    • @brettduffy7931
      @brettduffy7931 3 года назад +2

      @@Everythingblackpowder dont tell doctor you own guns or or you many only own pre 1899 guns

    • @davefellhoelter1343
      @davefellhoelter1343 2 года назад

      @@Everythingblackpowder If ONLY? I could grab hold of you. I have an idea for 45 projectiles right on the self in front of OUR eye balls! No one sees? from paper cartrage uses, to direct rammed! prices right, tested for speeds and power, but I am Too Lazy to film and/or must travel to far to test! OR "I WOULD!" Can't make the big Sandy this time round in your area?

  • @thehoneybadger8089
    @thehoneybadger8089 2 месяца назад

    Remember that the original 405 grain bullet for the 45-70 military load also had a hollow base. LEE even makes their bullet mold for that bullet to give it that hollow base for expansion.

  • @thehoneybadger8089
    @thehoneybadger8089 2 месяца назад

    In the past, I've thought about having C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps build me a custom Model 1874 Business Rifle in 577 Snider or even the 2½" version. This "presentation" has relit that fire!!

  • @nigelkavanagh2048
    @nigelkavanagh2048 Год назад +1

    Brilliant vid sir! When you are making it look presentable please show us the process! 👏👍

  • @Mis-AdventureCH
    @Mis-AdventureCH Год назад +2

    I love your sidekick off camera. "Fuk'n A....*maniacle laughter*" LOL

  • @rosanna3765
    @rosanna3765 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi. I know it's been 3 years since you posted this, but I finally got the courage to make my own. I usually buy 24G brass whenever I see it available and send it to a friend who does it for me, but I thought it was time for me to do it myself. Anyway, I cut the brass to 2 inches and annealed, although I not sure if I over did it. I formed the brass in the dies and that's where I'm at right now. They look alright and fit my Sniders, but your's look longer than 2 inches. Is that the right size?

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 месяца назад +1

      After mine are formed, I trim them to 1.90

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 месяца назад +1

      You can buy jigs on eBay for a mini saw to cut your 24 gauge brass down to 2 inch and your formed 577 brass to 1.90 inch. That’s the fastest and easiest way I have found.

    • @rosanna3765
      @rosanna3765 3 месяца назад

      @@Everythingblackpowder Thanks for the reply. Yes, I got one of those jigs. It cuts to 2 inches. It just looked longer on the video. I'll have to try them out on the range and hope I didn't over anneal them. I don't think I did, fingers crossed. BTW I love your videos.

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 месяца назад

      Thank you

  • @vicroc4
    @vicroc4 Год назад +1

    Probably need the big Lee .50 BMG cast press for those dies, I don't think the regular presses could hold them.

  • @kr6dr
    @kr6dr 2 месяца назад

    To achieve the ideal annealing temperature, you can use Tempilaq temperature indicating paint. Just a dot of the paint will melt at the desired temperature (usually 750f for cartridge brass), making it easier to get the desired softness without changing the chemical structure of the brass.

  • @davefellhoelter3299
    @davefellhoelter3299 10 месяцев назад

    OMG! I forgot how much! your bench is as haz mat as mine? or looks like? Love the Smell of AMP in the Morning! Smells Like Good? Times!

  • @thehoneybadger8089
    @thehoneybadger8089 2 месяца назад

    Just leave the propane torch set on the bench top and hold the drill with both hands when doing your annealing. There, I got rid of the "Kevin" in me. Do it however you want, Señor😂🌵

  • @Sman7290
    @Sman7290 10 месяцев назад

    Once the brass is fire formed to your chamber, instead of re-sizing it back down each time, see is the .600 Eras Gone bullet will fit it. I've seen where it will slide right in by hand.
    Since it is a single shot 12:37 rifle, you don't really need a crimp on it. You only really need the dies for the first loading.

  • @Sman7290
    @Sman7290 8 месяцев назад

    What's the velocity difference between the 70 brain and the 120 grain loads?

  • @Ben_not_10
    @Ben_not_10 Год назад +1

    Did you have any over pressure signs with the 120 grain charge?

  • @kencurtis508
    @kencurtis508 10 месяцев назад

    Great video, thanks for sharing. Shoot mine regularly but only smokeless powder. Take care.

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  10 месяцев назад

      What’s your smokeless load for 577 snider?

    • @kencurtis508
      @kencurtis508 10 месяцев назад +1

      14 gr. 700X, 525 gr. Solid at .585 dia.from X-ring mould. Between three and four inch group at 50 yards every time. That’s from a long rifle and a Sargents model. I love it. I use modified sights. A Ross rear site and the front site from a Lee Enfield No.4. The sites don’t alter the rifle in any way and can be removed at any time.
      @@Everythingblackpowder

  • @TIEpilot918
    @TIEpilot918 4 месяца назад

    Is your rockchucker the original first series RC? I just bought one and I'm going insane trying to confirm it has the right threads.

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  4 месяца назад +1

      I don’t know. I think it was made in the 80s

    • @TIEpilot918
      @TIEpilot918 4 месяца назад

      @Everythingblackpowder hey no worries, thanks for checking. The one I got on ebay just says "RC" on the side and it looks like it has the removable bushing like yours. I'm just trying to confirm I'm in the clear lol.

  • @Chookvw
    @Chookvw 2 года назад +1

    Where did you find a .585 minie? I just acquired a sergeants 2 band snider and am looking for a larger minie. Thanks.

  • @Brazilian.Off.Duty.Cop.
    @Brazilian.Off.Duty.Cop. Год назад

    Do you know any other cartridges that can be made from 12ga/20ga/28ga/410 shells?

  • @billrea66
    @billrea66 2 года назад +1

    How do you prime ? I tried putting primer on board , shell on primer then hammering shell down on primer gently but firmly . Didn't work ? primer went in on an angle .

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  2 года назад

      I have a priming arm on my old RCBS press

    • @billrea66
      @billrea66 2 года назад

      @@Everythingblackpowder , so do I ? Never thought of using IT though ?

  • @milsurpmarine8628
    @milsurpmarine8628 3 года назад +4

    12:36 Probably not a good idea to have a lit propane torch 12inches away from an open bottle of Pyrodex.

  • @billrea66
    @billrea66 2 года назад +1

    Gottem brass , waiting for .578 boolits. I have 1 factory ORIGINAL 1870 boolit . It measures 1.614" . I also have 5 reloads at from , 2.131"----- 2.445" in length ? The 5 will not fit the breech of rifle due to being too long .

  • @mattshewchuk3949
    @mattshewchuk3949 2 года назад +1

    Hey where you form? where did u find the lead bullets?

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  2 года назад

      I bought the .585s from track of the wolf and I cast the .575 myself

  • @Recargasygambiarras
    @Recargasygambiarras 8 месяцев назад +1

    Gostei muito do vídeo! Ganhou mais um inscrito!! 👍👏👏👏

  • @Gunsmith-4570
    @Gunsmith-4570 3 года назад +1

    Did your Snider come from IMA and if you would say what grade was it?

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 года назад

      I believe so. I bought it from a customer of mine who just used it as a wall hanger. It was pretty rough

  • @johannesvanhoek9080
    @johannesvanhoek9080 Год назад

    What type of cutter did you use in your lathe to trim brass back.

    • @453421abcdefg12345
      @453421abcdefg12345 Год назад +2

      We usually use a parting tool, and if you grind the end at a slight angle it does no leave a burr.

  • @stevenbaker8184
    @stevenbaker8184 Месяц назад

    Ok, ive tried asking others with no success for an answer. What about modification an extremely rare rifle that is so hard to find information about the rifle itself,(took a year to find information that even Wiki doesn't have a peep on it.) A 1845/58 Danish rifle Snider Conversion also called the 17mm Danish in British law. It is technically 16.9mm in a diameter inside measurement. But very short case. And so the question is, on the wall or can a case be ever converted to the 17mm. It is legal but wondering how. The rifle is in good firing condition beyond getting ammunition made. So what is possible?

  • @brettduffy1992
    @brettduffy1992 Год назад +1

    You could probably use plastic shells. And around ball.

    • @vhfgamer
      @vhfgamer Год назад

      Brass shells and minie balls are better. The plastic shells and round balls are for cheap and or lazy people.

  • @mikemcneilly601
    @mikemcneilly601 3 года назад +1

    What powder were you using for those snider cartridges?

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 года назад

      My homemade powder

    • @mikemcneilly601
      @mikemcneilly601 3 года назад +1

      @@Everythingblackpowder is your homemade powder smokeless or black powder. If black powder would it be 2f or 3f

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 года назад

      @@mikemcneilly601 black powder, 2F

    • @mikemcneilly601
      @mikemcneilly601 3 года назад +1

      @@Everythingblackpowder I’ve been using Goex 3F 62.5gr. Saw you got away with 120gr looked like a good kick. Do you know of any good reloading data on the snider

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  3 года назад +1

      @@mikemcneilly601 yeah, 120gr is pretty uncomfortable to shoot but I don’t have to use any wads or filler with that load and it’s pretty accurate.

  • @billrea66
    @billrea66 2 года назад

    Well , got my brass cut to 2" , got me some GOEX fg powder ( his last pound ) , .578 boolits arrived today . Tomorrow I will anneal brass , size in LEE dies , lube and shape boolits , prime and charge and when it gets warm enough , go pew,pew,pew .

  • @Letsgofishing911
    @Letsgofishing911 9 месяцев назад +1

    Well that 120 grain load will really get the meat.

  • @loquat44-40
    @loquat44-40 2 года назад

    During the annealing section I saw can of powder and what may have been other munitions on the bench. That combination never goes well with an open flame.

  • @azartoorani
    @azartoorani 7 месяцев назад

    ایا میتوان با ساچمه های 5یا7پوکه ها را شارژ کرد بجای اسلاگ یا تک گلوله برای شکار پرنده؟؟

  • @GIJeaux1
    @GIJeaux1 Год назад +3

    Get a bucket of KFC to eat while you're resizing. Case lube? No problem.

  • @sogmalukem2745
    @sogmalukem2745 3 месяца назад

    Why are loading benches always a total mess? tradition?

  • @tripplebeards3427
    @tripplebeards3427 5 месяцев назад

    I’d like to get some .779s…lol.

  • @AmericanBoy88
    @AmericanBoy88 6 месяцев назад

    Do you know you've got a shot with a shorter round because the back end is where the gas seal is not the whole entire bullet if you don't want your paper wads and yes I know this is a 3-year-old video😊

  • @billrea66
    @billrea66 2 года назад

    Well , not knowing yer technique for primering , I picked up a piece of 1/4 " steel plate , set primer on it then shot shell lined up and using a 3/8" driver I hammered the shell down on the primer till it was flush . The third one went OFF with a BIG BANG ! Scared the doo-doo out of me and Wifie . So I have 20 to load tonite . Dipped in wax/crisco slurry , going to put in 65 gr of GOEX 1F powder , 10 with polenta filler and 10 with wad filler . Projectiles are .578 gr from Jet bullits .

  • @asherdog9248
    @asherdog9248 2 года назад +1

    Don't drop that torch on that can of Pyrodex! 😉

    • @Everythingblackpowder
      @Everythingblackpowder  2 года назад

      Don’t worry, it was empty

    • @asherdog9248
      @asherdog9248 2 года назад +2

      @@Everythingblackpowder I've never been one to resist an attempt at humor. Good video. I'm getting teady to make some Snyder ammo too.

  • @davefellhoelter1343
    @davefellhoelter1343 6 месяцев назад

    Know!? I knever! have primed anything? "Un" Orthodox'ed?

  • @jimhayes7497
    @jimhayes7497 5 месяцев назад

    also enjoying the amount of shit all over the bench

  • @azartoorani
    @azartoorani 7 месяцев назад

    Kornogeraf m/S ???