Forget "Tonya the Jumper". Can we all stop for a second and recognize her SPINNING was just as good as her jumping? @2:36 That layback was killer for 1994.
"The layback was killer for 1994." I'm very curious what you mean by that. Have ice skaters gotten BETTER at ice skating in recent years? If so, why? What would cause skaters to be more talented today than 30 years ago? Is it bc the quality of ice skates have improved...? Or, have human beings improved? Why should an athlete have better skills than athletes a couple decades ago? What would explain that? Thanks very much. I'm very curious about this. (And yes, I do notice that today's ice skaters seem WAY more skillful, stronger, faster, more artistic and more impressive today than in the past but I don't know why that is.)
@@silverbushb448 Spins in general were weaker then and what would be a mediocre layback today was stellar back then. Look over all the skaters and you will seen what one means. Kostner would have had a good layback back then, lol!
She was Tonya the Jumper for about six months. For the rest of her career she was Tonya the Popper, Tonya the Stepout, Tonya the Faller. She had to be good at something. Spins today are more centered but tons of bizarre and truly ugly positions. But regular laybacks and sit spins were better in the 90s.
Rudy Galindo was living in a trailer park and openly gay rare for those days and managed to beat all the rich athletes don’t make excuses for her she blew it
I wish that she hadn't done what she did... It's always hard to have sympathy for the devil, but she really yanks that sympathy with her effort. I'm still not sure how I feel after all these years.
Her boyfriend at the time acted without her knowledge, and she was in an abusive relationship, a cycle that she didn't choose to be a part of. Additionally, she was considered trash by the figure skating community because she was low income... I can't help but feel the figure skating community was glad to wash their hands of her regardless of her involvement.
Yeah Scott Hamilton hated her and didn't even bother to hide it. Which is ironic considering he KNEW she was being abused by her husband and did absolutely nothing. I don't know how he lives with himself.
I don't care what anyone says, I love this amazingly gifted athlete and beautiful woman and think she should be a rich lady today. It breaks my heart that she works menial jobs and doesn't have as much money as I do. If I was a promoter, I would make it my primary objective to get her back on track to the wealth and lifestyle a top shelf Olympian as herself should enjoy. I'd have her doing talk shows, motivational speaking, coaching seminars, authoring a book, guest refereeing sporting events, having a line of sportswear... you name it. Tonya, you ROCK!
I don't know why these skating videos have come up on my feed but I'm glad they have. Tonya was a Phenomenal skater who really could have brought home gold medals. It's too bad
I don't know if she was guilty or innocent, but my God, look at her face before she begins. I've never seen that much stress. Regardless of her involvement, I can't help but imagine how much better she might have performed without this amount of stress.
If only she had gotten her act together,not ever met that loser hubby.She made some poor choices in life but her triple axel will never be taken away,What a program she skated in Minn in 1991.She just had that raw talent,like Chris Bowman whom I got to meet in the late 1980's.He was so nice.
I am not a Tonya apologist. I think what she did to Ms. Kerrigan was awful. BUT. She accomplished so much & had she had a solid parental guidance, probably nothing like this would have ever happened. This girl came from a disadvantaged background, poor parentage AND asthma. Even so, she is one of the greatest ladies' skaters ever. I so wish she had a loving family like Nancy did. Ms. Kerrigan didn't come from a wealthy background either, but her whole family was there for her. I don't blame Nancy for her attitude towards Tonya - she's only human - but I still ache for Tonya's potential.
Cards2011 There are plenty of people who have disadvantaged lives and grow up in less than supportive households that aren't like tonya. I don't have any sympathy for her because ultimately you can have a bad past but you ultimately are responsible for the decisions you make in life and the consequences that come from your decision and actions are ultimately on you. Tonya is very good at playing the poor me role so she doesn't have to own up to her own mistakes by pointing fingers at everyone around her instead of manning up and admitting she messed up.
Tonya actually looks more toned and slimmed down, in compairison to 94 nationals. she had great height on her jumps, and to put a dbl axil in the later part of the program should have scored her higher - it would have by todays CoP standards.
@@erictyson5947 plenty of people still care about skating. Ilia Malinin aka "quadgod" and Isabeau Levito are two of my current favorites. I do however, prefer the old scoring system.
Ayy Tanya!! This ladies competition at the 94 games was the best and most entertaining ever. I was glued to the tv watching these games. Thank you to these ladies: Oksana, Nancy, Tanya, etc.
MSM, there's your answer. And they're falling by the wayside with each year now, on their own doing. But remember, due to lack of finances, resources and support, most of Tonya Harding's costumes were made by her own mother or family friends.
I know she skated early. I know she received .2-.3 for the Lutz combo and possible .2 for the flip. But where did some of those judges get 4.8, 5.0, 5.1 from? Scratching my head, here.
Strange after she stumbled out of a little and uncontrolled double flip right before and looked tired. I guess she dug in and wanted to atleast finish a dissapointing skate with a really strong final jump.
It was so obvious that the judges were biased against her. Had there not been a scandal about Nancy kerrigan this program would have earned 5.5-5.7 for technical merit. She had no chance of getting near the podium and she knew that but she still skated her best. She is a strong woman.
You and Nancy are both my inspiration both for two different reasons I hope you are better with everything in life now as you went through alot with your family I know how that feels I'm writing a book about what happened to me thank you both for your inspection.!!!
Very well put together program & very strong music from the Much Ado About Nothing soundtrack. Tonya Harding is an amazing person & it just sucks that she got mixed up in this "scandal". BUT, she got to become "Tonya Harding" from all of it....not many would know who she was/is if this didn't happen. She's famous..you're not.
She shouldn't be judged based on one failure. This is a tough sport and you will not become that good for not working very hard. I know I used to do it for a while. A lot of hard training goes into it and it's not fun by any means. It looks far more glamorous during competitions but it is not on most days. There's a lot of physical fitness needed to do the jumps etc. and this is done off ice. She's been brilliant in 1991, and has shown she is a very talented skater.. She has not recovered after the scandal, but she shouldn't be judged on one wrong for the rest of her life. She was emotionally fragile and didn't have the support others had and battled against a lot of adversity. She should be comanded for this.
@lionjake72 What's pathetic is her upbringing, no parental support and Tonya fell into the wrong crowd. Nancy Kerrigan's parents wholeheartedly supported her from the beginning. Thank goodness she was allowed to compete. I think Smith and Golooly were the masterminds behind the ridiculous attack on Nancy, who Tonya could have beaten fair and square.
@@erictyson5947 Actually, most athletes get way MORE support than that. College scholarships, sponsorships, sports psychologists - heck, some countries have entire institutions that are devoted solely to supporting athletes. Incidentally, Tonya paid for a large proportion of her lessons herself, she used to do menial jobs to enable herself to do so. Her Olympic outfit here was made by a local dressmaker in her home town. Her mother wasn't the great support she tries to portray herself as.
Even if she did skate this clean, I don't this would've placed her in the top 5. From Katerina, Chen, Bonaly, Nancy and Oksana and others, everyone had an amazing technical program.
Still not sure exactly happened, but Kerrigan was rather boring. Kerrigan did herself in when she blew Mickey Mouse off in some kind of parade at Disney. There went $$Millions in endorsements.
The winner was actually Oksana Baiul and her Black/White swan performances were very impressive, and she also had a difficult start in life. BTW, Nancy Kerrigan WAS innocent - conspiring to hurt her not only was criminal, it also hurt the sport!
Tonya was an amazingly strong jumper and IIRC, at that time only Surya Bonaly could give Tonya any competition on strength jumps. Artistically, she wasn't as graceful as others, which probably kept her from winning gold many times.
What kept her from winning was more in the big competition she didnt do those jumps. Yes she had them when in shape and in top form, but they rarely were done when it really mattered. Pretty much the only time they ever were was her dream 91 in winning U.S Nationals, being 2nd at worlds, and winning Skate America. As you can see in this skate she didnt jump that well, stepping out of her triple combo (.4 deduction) and even putting her foot down on a simple double flip which hardly any girls had problems with (.2 deduction). She is also out of shape, which is probably why she isnt jumping to her full potential, which was often the case in important events.
She took alot of her stress out on the ice with her and it shows when she was happy she did great like absolutely amazing triple Axel's look effortless. When she is stressed she's tense and fucks up alot like she just can't relax. Sad really cause she could have been so amazing and win many gold medals.
So unjust that she is banned from competition, i feel like she was punished for who she is, rather than what she did. The IOC is really crooked, I have learned not to expect any fairness from them. they pick favorites.
If she had some sponsors she could’ve paid for better hair makeup and outfits very sad no one wanted to help her even after she landed the triple axel wtf?!
What on earth is wrong with people that they cannot enjoy Tonya Harding’s skating without ripping Nancy Kerrigan to shreds? The world was filled with excellent national champions, and just because Tonya Harding skated at the Olympics did not mean she was ever a medal contender on this world stage. I enjoyed this program watching it now and I wish she had done it as well as at Skate America, when the crowd adored her and rocketed her to a win in the technical program. But you can see in people’s eyes at the start of an Olympic program what the outcome is going to be, and she was rattled. I wish her idiot friends had not done what they did, and I wish she had an upbeat piece of music like this for her free program, instead of Jurassic Park which was slow and which she never seemed happy or comfortable with. So many things could have been better for her.
Media made kerrigan out to be the 'darling' and she wasn't..Tonya wasn't the beauty,either.. But NO one jumped like this girl...Her husband was her downfall...
I loved Tonya's skating. So strong, & first woman to land a triple axel in competition. Hated her costumes, though. They always looked a little...Walmart.
They had in Tonya's writing a paper where she detailed where and when Nancy trained. Tonya knew all along and helped plan it. There is no excuse you people can come up with that can explain away that.
They had that because they all had each other's training sessions. Most of the skaters did! You've clearly swallowed the media lies and can't recognize truth or reality from sensationalist lies and gossip.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. She should have been in jail. No excuse about bad home life. Many of us have overcome that without abusing innocent rivals. Disgusting she was even allowed out there to compete. She did herself in. However you may perceive Nancy, she had the moxie to get out there and compete after being sssaulted. Oksana won fair and square, though.
What? I thought Scott was pretty kind to her and seemed genuinely distressed for her when it looked like she wasn't going to complete the free skate. I don't think his comments had anything to do with her weight - they were aimed at the fact that she hadn't been practicing well and hadn't made it through any full programs in the days prior - plus her asthma. Scott had also said at times how tiny she was. I love watching her skate & was always glad that, in my mind, they didn't trash her.
She pulled it together quite well, a couple mishaps here and there, not totally clean unfortunately but wow she pulled through even though she was exhausted and obviously out of shape. To get that jump at the end is impressive. Especially for someone with chronic asthma
Unfortunately she should've placed much higher. The reason she didn't is because they weren't judging her skating and athletic ability alone. Had they done their job and left personal feelings out of it then she would've placed enough to at least have been on the podium. A panel of figure skating judges shouldn't be judging anything other than the athletes performance as a skater, matters off ice....that's for a judicial judge to decide. I hate that shit, not just in figure skating but every other sport as well. I'm not saying all of them are like that cause they're not, but the ones who are.....i no like.
Let's not forget she tried to get Nancy Kerrigan out of the competition. They should have kicked her out of the Olympics not even allowed her to skate. Maybe they did it so Nancy could have the satisfaction of beating her even though she tried to injure Nancy so bad she couldn't skate
The media circus surrounding this Olympics finally got to Tonya. She wasn't putting in practice time and she spent more time with the media answering questions about the whack on Nancy than she did on the ice practicing. Everything finally just caught up to Tonya.
You are right about that- the frenzy caused her not to skate well. If she had skated at the Olympics in 94 like she had done at Nationals she very well might have ended up in third. It hard when many are negative about you. It is not easy to stop it from getting you down.
I feel like an ordinal placement of 10th is WAY too low. She had a step in-between her combo; however, now folks are putting a half loop in between 2 triples intentionally and that is okay. I would need to go back and watch the full run but I would at least think a 5th ordinal spot would have been at least more appropriate.
@@kelsey1406 Good point. So what is worse?- a step in-between two clean jumps or a 2 foot? Oh wait - its more about perception and desirability. She lived her competitive life in this spotlight. When Tonya was ON, she was so, so, so on. Even when she was just hitting the big stage, she skated with exceptional maturity, speed and clean jumps. I would love to see interviews NOW of people who were at the head of U.S. Skating and see what the hell they were thinking then and how they feel about it now in hindsight.
One thing I noticed is she gained a lot of weight between Nationals and here, which is one reason this short program is nowhere near her Nationals one, and the jumps are nowhere as strong as her Nationals skate. I don't know what she was doing in the weeks in between exactly, but that was one story of her career. She wasn't consistently trained and prepared for big events to skate to her immense potential. The judges rarely did her a lot of favors, but she rarely did herself many either.
Harding was, by far, the most talented skater in these games. In 1991, only Midori Ito could out skate her. However, she lacked work ethic, giving her a 4th place in 1992. Had she been in shape, she would have been on the podium...and possible taken gold. During these games, she cracked under the pressure. She was landing triple axels in practice...and landed then until 1996.....but did some of her worst public skating at these games. Kerrigan's skating was solid, but to me, uninspiring. Her attitude toward Oskana, who won gold, was telling. However, the best skate of the night, IMHO....wasn't anyone on the podium. It was Katarina Witt. Long past her technical prime and with a repertoire of jump dated even by 1988 standards, she told a story with her performance that nobody else could tell.
Imagine how amazing she could have been if she had a great support team instead of an abusive mother and husband.
There's no proof her mother or husband was abusive
@@erictyson5947 There’s no reason why she would’ve made her entire life story up
@@jmaybarnett I can think of a few reasons
Or if figure skating hadn't been riddled with classism and racism.
I don't know, Maybe had she not, she wouldn't have had any drive or need to prove anything and wouldn't have gone into skating at all.
Forget "Tonya the Jumper". Can we all stop for a second and recognize her SPINNING was just as good as her jumping? @2:36 That layback was killer for 1994.
sbe79 I love tonya and agree she had height flying into the spins, but do you think here sit isn’t that low?
Her spinning is amazing.
"The layback was killer for 1994." I'm very curious what you mean by that. Have ice skaters gotten BETTER at ice skating in recent years? If so, why? What would cause skaters to be more talented today than 30 years ago? Is it bc the quality of ice skates have improved...? Or, have human beings improved? Why should an athlete have better skills than athletes a couple decades ago? What would explain that? Thanks very much. I'm very curious about this. (And yes, I do notice that today's ice skaters seem WAY more skillful, stronger, faster, more artistic and more impressive today than in the past but I don't know why that is.)
@@silverbushb448 Spins in general were weaker then and what would be a mediocre layback today was stellar back then. Look over all the skaters and you will seen what one means. Kostner would have had a good layback back then, lol!
She was Tonya the Jumper for about six months. For the rest of her career she was Tonya the Popper, Tonya the Stepout, Tonya the Faller. She had to be good at something. Spins today are more centered but tons of bizarre and truly ugly positions. But regular laybacks and sit spins were better in the 90s.
It's a rich man's game. poor Tanya was always looked down on even though she had better skills then most.
Wrong.
"Rich man's game"...that is so true in gymnastics as well! 😒
None of the other skaters were rich
Rudy Galindo was living in a trailer park and openly gay rare for those days and managed to beat all the rich athletes don’t make excuses for her she blew it
If Tonya Harding went on tour I would go see her
Tonya had magnificent jumping skills and athleticism. She was as good, or better, as anyone in her time.
Oksana anyone
Mark Simko but yet no Olympic medals ok and trump is great un huh your a dumbfuck
@@harveychadbourne5180 Nice grammar.
She was a false and evil sociopathic liar
Not known for her artist abilities though. Kerrigan is much better.
All the drama aside, she's so much more fun to watch than Nancy.
Karen Rodrigues agreed
Karen Rodrigues nancy was so bland 😴
I wish that she hadn't done what she did... It's always hard to have sympathy for the devil, but she really yanks that sympathy with her effort. I'm still not sure how I feel after all these years.
Snarko Tron Tonya railroaded her own future ! She was a dirty player . Even today I get a sketchy vibe from her.
Her boyfriend at the time acted without her knowledge, and she was in an abusive relationship, a cycle that she didn't choose to be a part of. Additionally, she was considered trash by the figure skating community because she was low income... I can't help but feel the figure skating community was glad to wash their hands of her regardless of her involvement.
She’s such a magnificent athlete! Announcers just never shut up dogging her.
The announcers were fair
Yeah Scott Hamilton hated her and didn't even bother to hide it. Which is ironic considering he KNEW she was being abused by her husband and did absolutely nothing. I don't know how he lives with himself.
She looked amazing at this Olympics! Beautiful. And those spins wow best layback spin ever in my opinion
I'm simply in awe of how powerful she is.
I could never get tired of watching her. Amazing.
I don't care what anyone says, I love this amazingly gifted athlete and beautiful woman and think she should be a rich lady today. It breaks my heart that she works menial jobs and doesn't have as much money as I do. If I was a promoter, I would make it my primary objective to get her back on track to the wealth and lifestyle a top shelf Olympian as herself should enjoy. I'd have her doing talk shows, motivational speaking, coaching seminars, authoring a book, guest refereeing sporting events, having a line of sportswear... you name it. Tonya, you ROCK!
I agree with you she's amazing I wish she could still skate 💞⛸️😭
And Nasty Nancy Kerrigan sniffs that she still hasn't gotten an apology.
I don't know why these skating videos have come up on my feed but I'm glad they have. Tonya was a Phenomenal skater who really could have brought home gold medals. It's too bad
Tonya was much more artistic than most of the skaters now.
She was ahead of her time in many ways.
Agreed she's a wonderful figure skater
That double axel was beautiful!
She makes it look so easy...
Tonya is a natural talent.
Tonya me is not talent. It's world champion athlete.
She amazing she beautiful she's strong fearless I'ma be just like her
That dress is stunning on her.
I agree, this is her best ever look , I think!
She's amazing
You dont see any ladies doing a turn one foot during their spiral sequence anymore, or at least I haven't seen anyone doing it. Nice touch Tanya.
Let's be real. This program was way better than Nancy's.
Dennis G Tonya was a way better skater than Nancy.
Dennis G Love Tonya.
Harvey Chadbourne really childish to insult someone just because you have a different opinion.
Scores way too low on technical merit.
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I don't know if she was guilty or innocent, but my God, look at her face before she begins. I've never seen that much stress. Regardless of her involvement, I can't help but imagine how much better she might have performed without this amount of stress.
She's guilty, everyone who was alive at the time knows. If she was innocent she wouldn't have been charged with the crime.
@@erictyson5947 You think only guilty people are ever charged with a crime?
Lol...
@@hollyjolly2066 guilty people confess to a crime like Tonya did
@@erictyson5947 ...and Tonya confessed to learning of details 3 days after returning from Nationals.
@@hollyjolly2066 she's guilty dude, give it up. Find a better hero to worship than Tonya Harding lol
Can we take a moment and appreciate how beautiful and pretty her legs look
🤮🤮🤮
Yes she is a wonderful skater she's beautiful and graceful and she's where pantyhose that's why they look so smooth I'm pretty sure
If only she had gotten her act together,not ever met that loser hubby.She made some poor choices in life but her triple axel will never be taken away,What a program she skated in Minn in 1991.She just had that raw talent,like Chris Bowman whom I got to meet in the late 1980's.He was so nice.
HattieLovesCattie Well look how she was raised. Explains a lot.
@@janablang anyone who lies about their own mother is a pretty awful person
She married to get away from her mom. But it just led to more abuse.
@@Kaboomboo I know.The movie was spot on too.
I am not a Tonya apologist. I think what she did to Ms. Kerrigan was awful. BUT. She accomplished so much & had she had a solid parental guidance, probably nothing like this would have ever happened. This girl came from a disadvantaged background, poor parentage AND asthma. Even so, she is one of the greatest ladies' skaters ever. I so wish she had a loving family like Nancy did. Ms. Kerrigan didn't come from a wealthy background either, but her whole family was there for her. I don't blame Nancy for her attitude towards Tonya - she's only human - but I still ache for Tonya's potential.
Cards2011 There are plenty of people who have disadvantaged lives and grow up in less than supportive households that aren't like tonya. I don't have any sympathy for her because ultimately you can have a bad past but you ultimately are responsible for the decisions you make in life and the consequences that come from your decision and actions are ultimately on you. Tonya is very good at playing the poor me role so she doesn't have to own up to her own mistakes by pointing fingers at everyone around her instead of manning up and admitting she messed up.
Elise Fincher Agreed.
BRENDA ALLEN Yeah, Oksana had a crappy childhood & you didn't see HER out there clubbing the competition...😂
Lol I can’t wait to see I, Tonya!
And what exactly did she do to Nancy Kerrigan? You don't know. She did nothing. Stop believing the lies.
i still would rather watch tonya jump over many of the gold medal winners. she was a good jumper. this was just not her day.
Tonya actually looks more toned and slimmed down, in compairison to 94 nationals. she had great height on her jumps, and to put a dbl axil in the later part of the program should have scored her higher - it would have by todays CoP standards.
Todays standard are why nobody cares about skating anymore
@@erictyson5947 plenty of people still care about skating. Ilia Malinin aka "quadgod" and Isabeau Levito are two of my current favorites.
I do however, prefer the old scoring system.
An amazing skater. This was a very cool program...I was so pulling for her to nail this on this night 19 years ago...
She would have nailed you with a club after
@@erictyson5947agreed.
I remember back then. Tonya was the greatest!
Just imagine if she would’ve skated clean during the short program, it would’ve been the battle of all the best that final night.
I really enjoyed watching her skate . She had both athletic and. artistic
Shes amazing
Ayy Tanya!! This ladies competition at the 94 games was the best and most entertaining ever. I was glued to the tv watching these games. Thank you to these ladies: Oksana, Nancy, Tanya, etc.
Excellent quality!
thank you for posting!
Someone said in Sports Illustrated that Tonya's dress looked like "an elephant trainer's costume she had outgrown ten years ago." Ouch!
MSM, there's your answer. And they're falling by the wayside with each year now, on their own doing. But remember, due to lack of finances, resources and support, most of Tonya Harding's costumes were made by her own mother or family friends.
I know she skated early. I know she received .2-.3 for the Lutz combo and possible .2 for the flip. But where did some of those judges get 4.8, 5.0, 5.1 from? Scratching my head, here.
I cant wait to see “I Tonya”
Alice Alice ME TOO
Alice Alice It’s an amazing movie
Alice Alice i did
saw it last nite-don't do what i did and eat Rabbit Frickasee b4 watching!
The height on that 2A...unbelievable. What a talent.
Strange after she stumbled out of a little and uncontrolled double flip right before and looked tired. I guess she dug in and wanted to atleast finish a dissapointing skate with a really strong final jump.
Ohh that double flip... she loves the double axel at the very end 🍎
10th place! No WAY. 6th or 7th place here.
It was so obvious that the judges were biased against her. Had there not been a scandal about Nancy kerrigan this program would have earned 5.5-5.7 for technical merit. She had no chance of getting near the podium and she knew that but she still skated her best. She is a strong woman.
Hermosa Tonya ❤
Tanya was amazing skater. Graceful and the best skater in the world.
I agree I'm her biggest fan she's so ahead of her time
Probably the greatest Usa Female Skater ever
You and Nancy are both my inspiration both for two different reasons I hope you are better with everything in life now as you went through alot with your family I know how that feels I'm writing a book about what happened to me thank you both for your inspection.!!!
Very well put together program & very strong music from the Much Ado About Nothing soundtrack. Tonya Harding is an amazing person & it just sucks that she got mixed up in this "scandal". BUT, she got to become "Tonya Harding" from all of it....not many would know who she was/is if this didn't happen. She's famous..you're not.
She’s infamous. Which is sad, considering how much she’s accomplished career-wise.
She shouldn't be judged based on one failure. This is a tough sport and you will not become that good for not working very hard. I know I used to do it for a while. A lot of hard training goes into it and it's not fun by any means. It looks far more glamorous during competitions but it is not on most days. There's a lot of physical fitness needed to do the jumps etc. and this is done off ice. She's been brilliant in 1991, and has shown she is a very talented skater.. She has not recovered after the scandal, but she shouldn't be judged on one wrong for the rest of her life. She was emotionally fragile and didn't have the support others had and battled against a lot of adversity. She should be comanded for this.
Christopher Sorick well said! But I am famous. Don’t you recognize my porn star name?
@lionjake72 What's pathetic is her upbringing, no parental support and Tonya fell into the wrong crowd. Nancy Kerrigan's parents wholeheartedly supported her from the beginning.
Thank goodness she was allowed to compete. I think Smith and Golooly were the masterminds behind the ridiculous attack on Nancy, who Tonya could have beaten fair and square.
victoria grant Too bad Nancy parents supported her..maybe if they didn't she wouldn't if got whacked!
Her mother worked 2 jobs to pay for her skating and made all her costumes by hand. Most athletes don't get that much support.
@@erictyson5947 she abused her big time and the things you mention she did bc she wanted to make money of her
@@erictyson5947 Actually, most athletes get way MORE support than that. College scholarships, sponsorships, sports psychologists - heck, some countries have entire institutions that are devoted solely to supporting athletes. Incidentally, Tonya paid for a large proportion of her lessons herself, she used to do menial jobs to enable herself to do so. Her Olympic outfit here was made by a local dressmaker in her home town. Her mother wasn't the great support she tries to portray herself as.
i had always liked tonya harding more than nancy kerrigan. i liked the jumping i guess.
Underscored !!!!!! These scores are such a joke!!!!!
Tutto questo, fumando, mangiando male e vivendo la vita che aveva! Magnifica numero uno!
Even if she did skate this clean, I don't this would've placed her in the top 5. From Katerina, Chen, Bonaly, Nancy and Oksana and others, everyone had an amazing technical program.
This was awesome!
Viendo este video y otros de Tonya Harding creo que fue una de las mejores sino la mejor patinadora estadounidense muy superior a Nancy Kerrigan
Se le nota la verdadera pasión
Alguém aqui por causa do filme da Tonya em Tela Quente de 30/05/22? Maravilhosa!!! 🤩👏👏👏
Sencilla, Fuerza, Artistica, Entregada y Elegancia sin vestidos Caros , la mejor de esa Generación Campeona
Still not sure exactly happened, but Kerrigan was rather boring.
Kerrigan did herself in when she blew Mickey Mouse off in some kind of parade at Disney. There went $$Millions in endorsements.
That was awesome!
Tonya was so strong …such a great athlete
love you Tonya
The winner was actually Oksana Baiul and her Black/White swan performances were very impressive, and she also had a difficult start in life. BTW, Nancy Kerrigan WAS innocent - conspiring to hurt her not only was criminal, it also hurt the sport!
Ann-Kay Lin the attack was the black mark in a prissy sport that brought the fans in droves.
Tonya was an amazingly strong jumper and IIRC, at that time only Surya Bonaly could give Tonya any competition on strength jumps. Artistically, she wasn't as graceful as others, which probably kept her from winning gold many times.
What kept her from winning was more in the big competition she didnt do those jumps. Yes she had them when in shape and in top form, but they rarely were done when it really mattered. Pretty much the only time they ever were was her dream 91 in winning U.S Nationals, being 2nd at worlds, and winning Skate America. As you can see in this skate she didnt jump that well, stepping out of her triple combo (.4 deduction) and even putting her foot down on a simple double flip which hardly any girls had problems with (.2 deduction). She is also out of shape, which is probably why she isnt jumping to her full potential, which was often the case in important events.
Do you really think she is out of shape here? I don't think she looks bad - in retrospect she actually looks very nice.
She's not triple axle form to put it politely
She took alot of her stress out on the ice with her and it shows when she was happy she did great like absolutely amazing triple Axel's look effortless. When she is stressed she's tense and fucks up alot like she just can't relax. Sad really cause she could have been so amazing and win many gold medals.
So unjust that she is banned from competition, i feel like she was punished for who she is, rather than what she did. The IOC is really crooked, I have learned not to expect any fairness from them. they pick favorites.
Tonya was the best skater with additude.
Santa Cruz additude?
Amazing skater
I love Tanya …she was amazing
If she had some sponsors she could’ve paid for better hair makeup and outfits very sad no one wanted to help her even after she landed the triple axel wtf?!
What on earth is wrong with people that they cannot enjoy Tonya Harding’s skating without ripping Nancy Kerrigan to shreds? The world was filled with excellent national champions, and just because Tonya Harding skated at the Olympics did not mean she was ever a medal contender on this world stage. I enjoyed this program watching it now and I wish she had done it as well as at Skate America, when the crowd adored her and rocketed her to a win in the technical program. But you can see in people’s eyes at the start of an Olympic program what the outcome is going to be, and she was rattled. I wish her idiot friends had not done what they did, and I wish she had an upbeat piece of music like this for her free program, instead of Jurassic Park which was slow and which she never seemed happy or comfortable with. So many things could have been better for her.
I have always felt the media was not very kind toTonya. It was as if she was the step child and Nancy Kerrington was the child during that era..
she is an inspiration!
Her jumps were good for that time , but she doesn’t have that beautiful stretch and artistry
she was amazing!!
The best skater ever!
Your Royal Highness Ice Princess Tonya Harding!!!
That step out shouldn't have cost much, She should have been 6th or 7th in the SP BOOOOOOO!
Media made kerrigan out to be the 'darling' and she wasn't..Tonya wasn't the beauty,either.. But NO one jumped like this girl...Her husband was her downfall...
I loved Tonya's skating. So strong, & first woman to land a triple axel in competition. Hated her costumes, though. They always looked a little...Walmart.
She made them herself. 😂
She didn’t have the money to buy elegant costumes so she had to make them herself.
She didn't have the money to get her costume designed by Vera Wang like Kerrigan!
Sad that Vera Wang preferred to dress buck teeth than a muscular athlete in the world of sport!
Better than dressing a butch girl that had her rival bashed in the leg. Oksana was miles above them both
All time favorite skater
I really like the arm variation she added to her layback for this competition.
They had in Tonya's writing a paper where she detailed where and when Nancy trained. Tonya knew all along and helped plan it. There is no excuse you people can come up with that can explain away that.
They had that because they all had each other's training sessions. Most of the skaters did! You've clearly swallowed the media lies and can't recognize truth or reality from sensationalist lies and gossip.
Get over your girl crush. She was nuts and got what she deserved.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. She should have been in jail. No excuse about bad home life. Many of us have overcome that without abusing innocent rivals. Disgusting she was even allowed out there to compete. She did herself in.
However you may perceive Nancy, she had the moxie to get out there and compete after being sssaulted. Oksana won fair and square, though.
What? I thought Scott was pretty kind to her and seemed genuinely distressed for her when it looked like she wasn't going to complete the free skate. I don't think his comments had anything to do with her weight - they were aimed at the fact that she hadn't been practicing well and hadn't made it through any full programs in the days prior - plus her asthma. Scott had also said at times how tiny she was. I love watching her skate & was always glad that, in my mind, they didn't trash her.
I agree
She pulled it together quite well, a couple mishaps here and there, not totally clean unfortunately but wow she pulled through even though she was exhausted and obviously out of shape. To get that jump at the end is impressive. Especially for someone with chronic asthma
Even with the two footed lutz she’s still underscored. Chen Lu didn’t have a clean combination and she still got 3rd.
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4.8?
I love the Swiss girl and her amazing spins, but those tarantula eyelashes were pretty scarey!
oh my laces.....
Unfortunately she should've placed much higher. The reason she didn't is because they weren't judging her skating and athletic ability alone. Had they done their job and left personal feelings out of it then she would've placed enough to at least have been on the podium. A panel of figure skating judges shouldn't be judging anything other than the athletes performance as a skater, matters off ice....that's for a judicial judge to decide. I hate that shit, not just in figure skating but every other sport as well. I'm not saying all of them are like that cause they're not, but the ones who are.....i no like.
Te points were so unfair
I like more her powerful style than Nancys style. Her husband ruined her life . Skating was her life .
she is one the greatest female skaters period.
Let's not forget she tried to get Nancy Kerrigan out of the competition. They should have kicked her out of the Olympics not even allowed her to skate. Maybe they did it so Nancy could have the satisfaction of beating her even though she tried to injure Nancy so bad she couldn't skate
if the nancy situation never happened, she would’ve won i stg
The media circus surrounding this Olympics finally got to Tonya. She wasn't putting in practice time and she spent more time with the media answering questions about the whack on Nancy than she did on the ice practicing. Everything finally just caught up to Tonya.
You are right about that- the frenzy caused her not to skate well. If she had skated at the Olympics in 94 like she had done at Nationals she very well might have ended up in third. It hard when many are negative about you. It is not easy to stop it from getting you down.
So don't be complicit in you're rival getting bashed. Simple. Oksana was so much better anyway
From what I read, her practices were terrible--she never ran through either her short or long program.
Ice skating: The original creators of bias.
She is actually really good. If only she is just focused on being great and forget whatever shits happen during her time.
It may have actually been Bramdon on that Delta flight from Utah a few years ago.
I feel like an ordinal placement of 10th is WAY too low. She had a step in-between her combo; however, now folks are putting a half loop in between 2 triples intentionally and that is okay. I would need to go back and watch the full run but I would at least think a 5th ordinal spot would have been at least more appropriate.
Chen Lu even 2 footed her combo and she got 3rd.
@@kelsey1406 Good point. So what is worse?- a step in-between two clean jumps or a 2 foot? Oh wait - its more about perception and desirability. She lived her competitive life in this spotlight. When Tonya was ON, she was so, so, so on. Even when she was just hitting the big stage, she skated with exceptional maturity, speed and clean jumps. I would love to see interviews NOW of people who were at the head of U.S. Skating and see what the hell they were thinking then and how they feel about it now in hindsight.
At least she didn't stop in the middle and make a fuss over messing up and blame it on her skate
danceballetacro ? She's famous for that too
Let's see you land jumps on ice with a faulty skate lace without breaking every bone in your body. She was right not to risk it.
I love Tonya. She's got the shit end of the stick for sure. I really relate to her.
I really fail to see how she finished in tenth place after this short program. Okay, not her best, but this was definitely NOT tenth place.
Definitely
One thing I noticed is she gained a lot of weight between Nationals and here, which is one reason this short program is nowhere near her Nationals one, and the jumps are nowhere as strong as her Nationals skate. I don't know what she was doing in the weeks in between exactly, but that was one story of her career. She wasn't consistently trained and prepared for big events to skate to her immense potential. The judges rarely did her a lot of favors, but she rarely did herself many either.
Harding was, by far, the most talented skater in these games. In 1991, only Midori Ito could out skate her. However, she lacked work ethic, giving her a 4th place in 1992. Had she been in shape, she would have been on the podium...and possible taken gold. During these games, she cracked under the pressure. She was landing triple axels in practice...and landed then until 1996.....but did some of her worst public skating at these games. Kerrigan's skating was solid, but to me, uninspiring. Her attitude toward Oskana, who won gold, was telling. However, the best skate of the night, IMHO....wasn't anyone on the podium. It was Katarina Witt. Long past her technical prime and with a repertoire of jump dated even by 1988 standards, she told a story with her performance that nobody else could tell.
America's sweetheart