5.25" PC Drive Bay Speakers & Subwoofer from the 90s

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2022
  • Taking a look at two 5¼ inch drive bay add-ons from the 1990s, which claim to convert your computer case into a stereo speaker system. Complete with subwoofer! Technically, I guess. Ha. Regardless of results I'm a sucker for these dumb drive bay peripherals, so let's test these on a Windows 98 PC!
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  • @elizabethandrews3714
    @elizabethandrews3714 Год назад +1214

    I feel like the 90s were a time when technology was increasing at a pace when more and more things were becoming possible, and there were no norms yet for what computers and computer technology was supposed to look like, so developers were free to just make literally anything and see what happened, because it might be successful and become the new normal, who knows

    • @mo3bius58
      @mo3bius58 Год назад +93

      Absolutely true! On the other hand, also customers did not really know what tech was useful or not. So even a crappy product could break even and the company behind it did not go bankrupt.

    • @MemeReviewer
      @MemeReviewer Год назад +66

      The 90s were an era where anything was possible.

    • @jakestocker4854
      @jakestocker4854 Год назад +55

      True, and it definitely went on into the early 2000s and even peaked in the early 2000s in some aspects.
      It's similar to the video game industry imo and part of me just misses when companies would take risk on weird things.

    • @erik365365365
      @erik365365365 Год назад +16

      Absolutely but we also had gotten to the “why not?” Eta from the “how?” And “why?” Era

    • @soriac2357
      @soriac2357 Год назад +14

      I think it actually started with the late 70s, where suddenly things were possible that used to be big, bulky, nerdy and unreliable. Those was the era of early "home" computers, although they weren't called that yet, the time of the first foray into the digital era, with equipment considered absolutely stone age by todays standards.
      But it was really the 80s where things get their priming. The 80s were an amazing time, where the future knocks at the door every day. Computers became regular household items, everything from living to entertainment suddenly got the big boost, you had crystal clear music on a plastic disk, could carry your music around in "tiny" cassette players, you had computer power at home like the big systems had just a decade earlier, even mobile phones or world wide computer connections already showed up. It was the time of the future.
      Granted, the 90s were when things finally got into full gear and max steam ahead, that was the era of the internet, where the computer finally was ubiquitous and showing its full potential. But it already started in the 80s, both were great decades to be alive 🙂

  • @devinsweazey7948
    @devinsweazey7948 Год назад +651

    theoretically, with a large enough case, could you have both the drive bay crt and this speaker setup running together to have an all in one system.

    • @nothin1456
      @nothin1456 Год назад +43

      Laptop put it in lap hahaha

    • @tobiwonkanogy2975
      @tobiwonkanogy2975 Год назад +33

      sounds ridiculous but maybe a 6 bay or 7 bay one does exist . you sacrifice the disk drive and or floppy . of course would love to see it too.

    • @oldfrend
      @oldfrend Год назад +53

      @@tobiwonkanogy2975 full towers are a thing, esp. in this era.

    • @ionstorm66
      @ionstorm66 Год назад +26

      @@tobiwonkanogy2975 There are cases that only have 5.25 bays up front, like 10-11 of them.

    • @limeflashlight4101
      @limeflashlight4101 Год назад

      @@nothin1456 laptop

  • @smakfu1375
    @smakfu1375 Год назад +331

    I remember seeing these on the shelf at CompUSA and thinking “Yes, just what I always wanted - magnets and mid to low frequency generation in close proximity to spinning magnetic media!”.

    • @subtledemisefox
      @subtledemisefox Год назад +42

      lmao I didn't even think of that! That's hilarious. Probably not a big deal these days, but would have been devastating to contemporary hardware. What were they thinking!?

    • @8BitNaptime
      @8BitNaptime Год назад +51

      There are far more powerful magnets right next to the hard disk platters for the voice coil. I don't know why people think magnets are such a threat to hard disks. In the 1980s and '90s we put CRT with giant electromagnets right on top of our pizza box plastic-cased PCs....
      Do you honestly think a company with engineers would engineer and then sell a product that would actually cause problems like you think??

    • @8BitNaptime
      @8BitNaptime Год назад +5

      @@subtledemisefox What are you thinking? There's no problem here.

    • @frogz
      @frogz Год назад

      omg!!! me too!!!

    • @dashcamandy2242
      @dashcamandy2242 Год назад +18

      Just play Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation." lol

  • @EmperorSquidysChannel
    @EmperorSquidysChannel Год назад +282

    There's nothing like a new LGR on a chill Friday morning.

  • @SirSmilie
    @SirSmilie Год назад +21

    I love that clint is finding treasures he had forgotten about. Nothing like the old moving everything rediscovery process!

  • @PressThatButton
    @PressThatButton Год назад +217

    It’s this kind of retro content that was the exact reason I started watching your channel and absolutely loved it. I’m glad you’re getting back to that simplicity with this video. I know the simplicity is unintentional, but I absolutely love this kind of simple retro content.

    • @StevenOBrien
      @StevenOBrien Год назад +12

      You might like his second channel, LGR Blerbs.

  • @vinceontheweb
    @vinceontheweb Год назад +40

    Clint thank you very much for providing handmade subtitles on your videos. I use them because it makes the videos easier to understand for me and I enjoy reading your additional commentary and jokes that you sprinkle throughout them. Please never stop providing them because they do indeed have an impact.

  • @ergosteur
    @ergosteur Год назад +88

    All of the Pentium II PCs at my elementary school had those “subwoofer” speakers installed, the teachers would get annoyed at us playing with the pivoting “feature”.

    • @Sordi.Michael
      @Sordi.Michael Год назад +7

      I remember all the towers at my high school in the mid ‘00s had similar units installed, but in black.

    • @mrskwid1
      @mrskwid1 Год назад +14

      The real question is how many of them had gum Jammed in the hole.

    • @ergosteur
      @ergosteur Год назад +9

      @@mrskwid1 gum, paper clips, bits of paper, pencils, pennies…

    • @higgsbonbon
      @higgsbonbon Год назад +23

      I have very good memories of our computer "shop" class in highschool, circa about 2009. We learned network engineering, we made our own FTP server, figured out LAN to play games, repairing and altering the registry, how to torrent and seed... all of which was NOT on the lesson plan. Almost all of us failed, yet I feel I learned far more practical skills than what was in the curriculum. It was great.

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux Год назад

      You are lucky to have a P2 !
      I had a 8086.
      Maybe years before :)

  • @PeTTs0n88
    @PeTTs0n88 Год назад +130

    That Twin Sound honestly sounded lot better than I anticipated too. ^^ Especially compared to most alternatives, like you mentioned I've had HPs, Compaqs and Dells with integrated speakers and well... yeah.

    • @hyperturbotechnomike
      @hyperturbotechnomike Год назад +5

      Thinkcentre SFF had built in speakers too, but they sound awful

    • @grigoris.7732
      @grigoris.7732 Год назад +4

      Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by that sound quality. Man, there's just the weirdest nostalgia from seeing those old towers.

  • @Ralph-yn3gr
    @Ralph-yn3gr Год назад +46

    You should get some massive server case with a ton of 5.25 inch bays and put that monitor and the speakers and the subwoofer in all at once for MAXIMUM INTEGRATION!

  • @TortureBot
    @TortureBot Год назад +45

    I had 2 of the exact same "subwoofer" 5 1/4" speaker units in 2 old LAN gaming rigs. The main advantage was not needing wired speakers, as I had 8 to 10 rigs going here at home for monthly LAN gaming parties. Big space saver.

    • @albertpintor3522
      @albertpintor3522 Год назад +5

      I still remember my middle school compaq and hp computers having a mono speaker in the tower below the disc drive

  • @Nukle0n
    @Nukle0n Год назад +156

    Would be fun to put a low-pass filter in-line with that "subwoofer" and just let that get the lower end stuff.

    • @pio80085
      @pio80085 Год назад +26

      I was thinking the same thing. Either using the "subwoofer out" on the sound card (if it has a filter back then), or just using a dedicated line level filter on it. Either way, it didn't sound like it had much if any low end anyway from the video.

    • @-redacted_by_youtube
      @-redacted_by_youtube Год назад +3

      Probably blow it up

    • @eddiehimself
      @eddiehimself Год назад +14

      @@pio80085 the sound card is a SB Live 5.1, the .1 being of significance there lol.

    • @pio80085
      @pio80085 Год назад +1

      @@eddiehimself right. But do the outputs work correctly and does the software do the proper filters? I haven't played with my live 5.1 enough yet to say for sure, hence why I left it an open question. Clearly there's no filter in the "subwoofer" speaker itself. The 0.1 could still be an unfiltered out depending on the software.

    • @youdontknowme5969
      @youdontknowme5969 Год назад +1

      makeit "fart" even more 🤣💨

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife Год назад +5

    Now you just need a Plus Deck 2C drive bay cassette player and an FM radio card, and you can turn your PC into an entire stereo system!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  Год назад +7

      You looking at my future video list? ;)

    • @garloch
      @garloch Год назад +2

      @@LGR Man now i really want that video

    • @the.internet
      @the.internet Год назад

      I had an FM radio card with an old mid 90s Packard Bell PC and the tuning software was pretty impressive from what I remember. I'd defo like to see you try out one or two of those LGR...

  • @brandonakey6616
    @brandonakey6616 Год назад +5

    Thank you so much for not going the clickbait path. Your video titles are to the point and thumbnails don't have an overly surprised cut-out of your face plastered on. Like EVERY other tech channel.

  • @danielgorry4705
    @danielgorry4705 Год назад +16

    I had a 5.25 bay speaker system similar. It is fantastic, as it had the volume control and 3.5mm jack up front. So when you left the computer to go pee you unplug the headphones so you can hear when the round started again. Saved a bit of desktop clutter by avoiding external speakers.

  • @ryanhardcastle725
    @ryanhardcastle725 Год назад +16

    I miss inserting random things into my PC case. These days it's all about the RGB and cable management. 25 years ago we had blacklight strips, cigarette lighters and round IDE cables.

    • @spagamoto
      @spagamoto Год назад +2

      I put a 3d printed drawer into my lone drive bay for my latest PC and it's been amazing.

    • @ohioplayer-bl9em
      @ohioplayer-bl9em Год назад +6

      i dont understand RGB thing. it will certainly be looked at as a tacky trend in the years ahead

    • @xaenon
      @xaenon Год назад

      Please don't remind me of how old I am...

    • @benm3382
      @benm3382 Год назад

      @@ohioplayer-bl9em I never got it either, doesn't do anything for me

  • @danparish1344
    @danparish1344 Год назад +54

    The fact that it swivels removes any doubt whether it was created to be a gimmick or a legitimate product.

  • @PatrickLaske
    @PatrickLaske Год назад +11

    That soundcard has a subwoofer output, I wonder if the subwoofer is supposed to use that instead of standard line-out.

    • @_i_don.t_need_a_unique_handle_
      @_i_don.t_need_a_unique_handle_ Год назад +2

      I was losing my mind that he didn't use that subwoofer jack. I kept thinking that he'd remember and actually use it. Alas, he didn't and I'm disappointed.

  • @TheAstropath
    @TheAstropath Год назад +20

    We had the "subwoofer" speakers in all of our school computer lab machines here back in the early 2000's... They were good enough to get sound from every machine without needing desk space for speakers. There was always sort of garbage crammed in the subwoofer port at the front though.

    • @IvanOoze1990
      @IvanOoze1990 Год назад +7

      The same kids who stole the mouse balls.

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge Год назад +39

    I had one of those subwoofer inserts. The key for getting the best sound out of it was to place it at the Top Drive bay. When I put it at the bottom like you did it calls the other plastic above it to rattle. But by placing it in the top Drive Bay there was enough air space for it to come out without interference. Don't get me wrong it's still sounded like crap when you turned it up to 100, but low level sounds and doom were great.

    • @Mikeyridesit
      @Mikeyridesit Год назад +5

      This is 100% correct. The "sub" being pressed against the bottom metal plate is not allowing it to do anything, I had one of these as well and it was actually not bad in my 4 bay case. I had the sub at the top and my DVD-CD burner down at the bottom. It was not as good as my Logitec with a 10" floor sub by a long shot but in my dorm, where space was limited, it was good enough for playing MP3s and watching DVDs in a small space. WinAmp was pretty helpful in getting the most out of it till about 85% volume.

    • @OtioseFanatic
      @OtioseFanatic Год назад +1

      since you had once of these, was that swivel intended or is his just busted?

    • @BlackHoleForge
      @BlackHoleForge Год назад +2

      @@OtioseFanatic mine was a solid front piece.

    • @Mikeyridesit
      @Mikeyridesit Год назад +1

      @@OtioseFanatic mine did swivel, but it was much tighter and didn't flop like that. Maybe a foam/rubber washer inside that broke down over time.

    • @Mikeyridesit
      @Mikeyridesit Год назад +1

      @@BlackHoleForge I'm starting to think there was more than one version of this. I've read other comments here and on reddit, and it seems to be a split of people who had one that swivels and ones that were fixed.

  • @Raguleader
    @Raguleader Год назад +41

    When you think about it, if they can make decent speakers fit in a laptop, this doesn't seem so wild.

    • @mar4kl
      @mar4kl Год назад +6

      I guess that depends on your definition of decent. Laptop speakers are never great, because you can only do so much in that form factor, and with no more than 14" of separation in the largest of laptops, stereo sound is kind of a wash as well. In my experience, laptop speakers range from being just good enough that you don't feel like you have to lug a set of headphones around for video chats and basic entertainment to complete trash. (The ones in my current laptop are complete trash that can't even deliver a decent video chat experience if there's another sound source in the room. But I bought that laptop to deliver lots of power in a svelte, lightweight form factor, not symphonic sound.) That said, I could see these speakers appealing to someone who had just spent most of his discretionary dollars on a gaming rig and didn't have enough left for a good speaker system. The speakers seemed good enough for basic gaming, at least until one could afford something better. That subwoofer was another story.

    • @coyote_den
      @coyote_den Год назад +6

      @@mar4kl Take a listen to the new MacBook Pro's speakers. Apple really went all out on fitting the best speakers they could in the form factor. The bass is surprising. They're not the best speakers I have, or the loudest, but they are probably the best I've ever heard in a laptop.

    • @immothep101
      @immothep101 Год назад +4

      But could they in the 90s? I feel like portable speakers with such a small form factor only really became decent (and somewhat affordable) over the last 10 years.

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket Год назад

      @@coyote_den If it took Apple this long to put decent speakers in a laptop, they've been slacking off. The tiny little speakers in my iPad Air 2 are better than any laptop I've ever used, and at least some desktop speakers even. Even though they're not facing toward me.

    • @caseyrevoir
      @caseyrevoir Год назад

      Laptop speakers at the time sounded like cheap headphones lying on a table attached to a dying Walkman.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife Год назад +12

    The bracket that came with the subwoofer has screw holes in it because it was an off-the-shelf part meant for mounting a PS/2 port.

  • @grummpyyounggeek
    @grummpyyounggeek Год назад +1

    I remember back in Windows 95/98 within the Sound/Multimedia Control Panel item you could configure the layout and even the type of speakers that you had. Apart from the usual Stereo/Quadrophonic/Surround setup (5.1. wasn't an option until Me and 7.1 in XP) they also had some other odd layouts such as "Keyboard Speakers", "Monitor Speakers" and even "Desktop Speakers" as in speakers BUILT IN to the desktop tower itself, not 2 boxes as most people know it. I remember at the time thinking "What is the point of these options?" OK so monitor speakers could be used for Packard Bell or Compaq systems but I had never seen any of the other kinds of layouts.
    Today, your video solved that very mystery.

  • @jeremynolan5195
    @jeremynolan5195 Год назад +16

    Oh yeah, this is the type of nostalgic junky hardware I need in my day 😁

  • @BlaineEvans
    @BlaineEvans Год назад +39

    The rotation from the front on the sub is definitely deliberate. Notice how the plastic casing where it sticks out when you push it to one side is rounded. If it wasn't meant to rotate, that would surely be straight. As I say this, I'm only halfway through the video, so if LGR figures that out in the second half, well...egg on my face, I guess.

    • @o0Donuts0o
      @o0Donuts0o Год назад +3

      This was one of those comments you read right at the point in the video where it comes up.

  • @jeffcicale
    @jeffcicale Год назад +13

    Nothing beats a fresh LGR video on a Friday morning! Hope all is well Clint!

  • @victorvangrimgamming6784
    @victorvangrimgamming6784 Год назад +5

    Man, imagine if craft computing got ahold of thoes, RGB, and thumping techno in the server rack 24/7

  • @naman2000
    @naman2000 Год назад +4

    Love this so much! Thank you, Clint, for starting my day off with a great new episode!

  • @Richard_Hu
    @Richard_Hu Год назад +28

    Wow something to put in the drive bays of the fractal design pop air! Would love to see a beige paint job (Sherwin Williams marshmallow seems close and wood grain vinyl!) Retro style cases with modern design considerations ain't exactly easy to find

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Год назад

      The Pop Air only has one drive bay, I think it has to be for a BluRay drive.
      So woefully limited.

    • @Richard_Hu
      @Richard_Hu Год назад +1

      @@CptJistuce the reg and xl have 2x 5.25 spacing in the front

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Год назад

      @@Richard_Hu Good to know!

  • @Melechtna
    @Melechtna Год назад +24

    If you could fit in that cathode ray tube thing with those speakers, you'd have the earliest possible fully user upgradable AIO.

    • @TortureBot
      @TortureBot Год назад

      If the speaker units had enough shielding. Otherwise they'd wreak havoc on the CRT, causing all kinds of crazy anomalies & color distortion.

    • @Melechtna
      @Melechtna Год назад

      @@TortureBot thin lron plate should cover it

    • @Mick_92
      @Mick_92 Год назад +1

      It should be relatively trivial to find an old 4-bay case, if one wanted to do just this for whatever reason...

    • @TortureBot
      @TortureBot Год назад

      @@Mick_92 I still have my old beige 6-bay full-tower from almost 20 years ago.

    • @ohioplayer-bl9em
      @ohioplayer-bl9em Год назад

      that would be amazing

  • @RemoWilliams1227
    @RemoWilliams1227 Год назад +2

    Noice brand new LGR! I remember seeing ashtrays that fit the drive bay in the early 2Ks.

  • @csumme7
    @csumme7 Год назад +1

    I had that sub woofer one. Had it in a Gateway 433 Celeron tower. Thanks for the memories.

  • @rizkyp
    @rizkyp Год назад +5

    I remembered back in college, all the pcs in the computer science labs were equipped with speaker simmilar to this. I had gained a remote access on one of the labs and i played a homer Simpson voice remotely through one of the speaker in the labs. The labs were as quite as library so one can imagine the surprise to the user that was using that pc. 😂

  • @xPLAYnOfficial
    @xPLAYnOfficial Год назад +5

    If you put both of these and the CRT bay into one of the desktop cases (instead of the tower here), you could totally make what would in essence be a Compaq Portable or something to that effect. Would be super cool to see you do something like that in the future (perhaps on an LGR Blerb).

  • @ThomasPerl
    @ThomasPerl Год назад +2

    I don't know if you hear that often, or often enough but not only are you producing great content but your subtitles are on another level too. So... Thanks.

  • @adhodgson1
    @adhodgson1 Год назад +1

    Not sure if anyone else remembers similar sets to these used with speech cards. The ones I had I think were in a 3.5 inch bay but can't remember. I remember it wasting a case slot at the back as the cable had to come through from the back of the speaker system in the case through a hole and then plug into the output of the speech card. For screen reader users it was actually quite good because it gave us an extra output for the speech which was separate from the general audio of the sound card before dedicated speech synths went the way of the dogs. The model I had even allowed you to angle the speakers somewhat by having a small tilt to the speakers which could be angled left or right. There was also a headphone jack on the front as well as a volume knob.

  • @awesomeferret
    @awesomeferret Год назад +5

    I'd really love to see a quick teardown of these on the Blerbs channel. That would be a great way to find out if that swivel thing is actually a feature, come to think of it.

  • @MrKozlosPL
    @MrKozlosPL Год назад +23

    3 headphone jacks out front. Nowadays 1 is considered an optional feature most companies do without.

    • @rcmero
      @rcmero Год назад +5

      You can thank Apple for that.

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 Год назад +1

      to be fair, bluetooth works just fine. I haven't used wired since 2015.

  • @TheRealProcyon
    @TheRealProcyon Год назад +1

    My grandpa and I had as hobby retro computers when he was alive, this was primarily 1980s computers, however he also used to have a couple of old Windows XP machines and other things. I really miss those days and I think he'd have loved your channel were he still alive. I recall the days where I would go to my grandparents to mess with retro tech with my grandpa. One of the things I'm planning to do when I have enough money from a job in information security is likely to recreate that feeling. It was so nice to mess with older tech.

  • @guillezeus
    @guillezeus Год назад

    I just love to see you testing, tampering and messing around with old, odd techy stuff. Keep it up Clint! Your videos are awesome and always good for a laugh. Cheers from Uruguay!

  • @KuntalGhosh
    @KuntalGhosh Год назад +70

    These cd drive bays have enough space to actually squeeze in a pretty decent class d amp. Something like a tpa5152 can easily do 255w/2ch at 4ohm 1%thd , if u can make a 12v to 50v 600w power converter that takes your PC's 12v supply. Or much better would be to use another drive bay for a 48v 600w powersupply. 100w is way too much for general pc use. And something like a tpa3116d2 and some 6x9 inch car speakers should outperform 99% similarly priced pc speakers. I use two pairs of 6x9 sony xplod 100w rms speakers with sony car headunit that does 20w/4ch rms at 1% thd . Everything is powered from a 12v 20a meanwell powersupply set to provide 14.8v. the bass even without a subwoofer is enough to vibrate my windows & there is no distortion whatsoever unless i absolutely crank it. It has an awesome fm tuner , playes cds (i have large collection of cds) , plays dvd (also have a large collection of dvds) and super audio cds , has dual aux inputs. Rear ones are hooked upto my pc and the front one is plugged into a aptx bluetooth dac. And that's what i use for my pc.

    • @pandemicneetbux2110
      @pandemicneetbux2110 Год назад +6

      You know what, I was looking at this thing like "haha cool another goofy 90s PC thing" but I just realized...yeah I could actually do this and have a good use case for it if only it was black. Mainly because I deliberately bought a PC with lots of drive bays, getting what would've been the absolute shiznit in 1999 with dual CD burners/readers, Bluray the works, plus a card reader in my Phanteks case. I don't actually need that second CD/DVD drive really, but I DO have a solid use case for sound stuff, because my old subwoofer sound systems are long gone and I've used headphones since then. Really, we should bring 5.25 bays back. There's still so much more you can do with them than just CD drives. Sound system hadn't occurred to me before.

    • @erikmerz1742
      @erikmerz1742 Год назад +3

      Check out the Scythe Kama Bay AMP 2000 Rev. B . It is a 5,25" drive bay amp with a 2x 10W Class D Amp.

    • @KuntalGhosh
      @KuntalGhosh Год назад

      @@erikmerz1742 2x 10w class d is like powering a tpa3110 with 12v and using 4ohm ohm speakers. I could fit something like that inside a 2.5inch ssd case. It would be a waste of cd drive space. + That small of a class d sounds crap.

    • @KuntalGhosh
      @KuntalGhosh Год назад

      @@Shibathedog prs d800 is a discrete design class d. It does not use chip amp. But that could also be used, it's a very good and tiny amplifier.. the amp i am talking about uses one single chip for everything and only requires some inductors capacitors resistors diodes and buck converter to use . The only thing u need to provide it is 52v dc.
      Or if u do not need 250w/2 u can always use a tda7498e that will happily do 100w/ch if u provide it with 36v supply.
      I prefer a nicely desinged discrete class ab. 100w per channel is the sweet spot for most. U generally don't need anything close to 100w to enjoy music. The subs could benefit from 300-500w.

    • @KuntalGhosh
      @KuntalGhosh Год назад +1

      @@pandemicneetbux2110 i really want to own a sick bluray drive that could read any optical disc. And also a nakamichi cd changer drive. Maybe a light scribe as well. I have a large collection of cds and dvds i like to keep them around. It just feels nostalgic sometimes to look at standard definition video.

  • @dylan_00
    @dylan_00 Год назад +9

    Very interesting video, I always love seeing these weird 5.25" devices! I suspect the subwoofer sounds bad because it's not doing any filtering, and it's trying to play all frequencies it's receiving. I've seen this before on other independent subs, I would guess it's expecting the audio to have been low-pass filtered before it receives it.
    Edit: Now that I saw the independent test of the sub it definitely sounds like it's distorting pretty hard, so my previous assumption probably does not hold true!

  • @mattparker9726
    @mattparker9726 Год назад +1

    AHHHHHHHHHHHH The smooth sound of Jazz and Clint's soothing voice, truely a cornerstone of the Vintage tech community. Thanks for the decade+ of great work.

  • @Choralone422
    @Choralone422 Год назад +2

    I remember seeing drive bay speakers systems back in the day and thinking to myself how lousy most of them must sound at anything other than a moderate volume. Your experience with them was very satisfying! :)
    Throughout most of the 90's and the 2000's I used a combination of a Sony 2 channel stereo receiver (60 watts x2) and a set of Cambridge SoundWorks Ensemble speakers (2 satellites and 2 8 inch passive subs) with excellent results. I retired that system after the Sony receiver died after about 18 years of use. For the past 14 years or so I've been using a Klipsch Promedia 2.1 system where the satellites fit perfectly behind my current triple monitor setup.

  • @WillyJunior
    @WillyJunior Год назад +9

    I love how manufacturers always used to put the 'PMPO' wattage on the box of things like this in the 90s. It's a practically meaningless number.

    • @CotyRiddle
      @CotyRiddle Год назад

      it is compleately meaningless.

  • @Ranger_Kevin
    @Ranger_Kevin Год назад +32

    Sounds like a great idea - let's stick a subwoofer right above where the mechanical hard drives go. What could go wrong...

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux Год назад +4

      With a magnetic shield, no real problem.
      Hard drive are not so sensitive in fact.
      You really need to put a strong magnet close to them before seing damages.
      Someone made a video about it, don't remember where.

    • @andrewkepert923
      @andrewkepert923 Год назад +5

      Yes but if you’re playing Janet Jackson you deserve what you get.

    • @DrakkarCalethiel
      @DrakkarCalethiel Год назад +1

      @@nalinux it was Brainiac75 ruclips.net/video/pXITrgRkT5k/видео.html He used a massive magnet and even then needed quite some time to kill it.

    • @trollsthatlol1
      @trollsthatlol1 Год назад

      In theory it's great! In practice? Yeaahhhh.. Lol

    • @Ducky69247
      @Ducky69247 Год назад +1

      Nothing really. That's what.

  • @markdupuy4111
    @markdupuy4111 Год назад

    just found your channel and have binge watched. Brings back memories upgrading my first PC to Win 3.11

    • @LGR
      @LGR  Год назад

      Excellent, I hope you continue to enjoy!

  • @SlamBolts
    @SlamBolts Год назад

    Nothing like coming home from a long day out and sitting down with a cuppa and an LGR video, thanks for the uploads Clint!

  • @youdontknowme5969
    @youdontknowme5969 Год назад +4

    I remember JDR Microdevices selling something like this. Wow, I forgot about them. It looks like they're not around any longer. I wanted their drive bay equalizer/spectrum analyzer so bad but I was young/dumb/broke back then. Plus, classic Winamp had its own, so... 😎👍

  • @Zimiorg
    @Zimiorg Год назад +3

    5,25" Subwoofer - mechanical hard disk drives hate that trick :D

  • @alanluscombe8a553
    @alanluscombe8a553 Год назад

    I don’t know much about computers but I love seeing this old tech. My dad had a pc repair place when I was a kid in the 90s and it’s amazing how many things I remember seeing when you show them

  • @chouseification
    @chouseification Год назад +1

    More exciting was the Sound Blaster Audigy that came with a half height 5.25" front panel face plate that connected to the sound card.
    The face plate had remote sensor, SPDIF in and out, TOSLINK (fiber optic cable version of SPDIF) in and out, stereo RCA in, big-jack headphone out (with volume knob), big-jack microphone in (with volume knob), MIDI in and out, and IEEE 1394 FireWire (6 conductor)... it was completely full of connections, and oh boy was it ever fun. If you wanted to DJ a party with MP3s in 1998, yeah you could do it. It raised a lot of eyebrows back then - of course it's a common way to do it these days. :D

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 Год назад +1

      I bought an X-Fi card that came with one of those. Still got it. The actual card is providing sound in Mum's machine as my previous motherboard included the X-Fi chip built in, so I gave her an upgrade over the SB Live she was using before. Now I've got wireless digital headphones that take a TOSLINK output straight from the motherboard, rendering the matter of a sound card a moot point. Also, my current board is PCI Express only, so I can't use the old X-Fi card with it, anyway.

  • @danieldavis2055
    @danieldavis2055 Год назад +6

    From what I can recall in regards to the Apple mention, every single Macintosh all the way from the very first had a speaker present in it. It wasn't amazing but it was nice to have.

  • @mrsvcd
    @mrsvcd Год назад +6

    I have the bracket with mounting holes, it is for ps/2 mouse in my case.

    • @GeckonCZ
      @GeckonCZ Год назад

      Yeah, that's exactly what it is... a mini-DIN bracket.

  • @RegulationGamingHP
    @RegulationGamingHP Год назад +1

    Earthsiege is wonderful. What a brutal, tactically rich, intense mech game. It's so good to see it here

  • @rotordave81
    @rotordave81 Год назад +1

    We had that subwoofer model in the desktops at school. No prizes for guessing how long it took for rubbish to get stuck in that hole.
    We used to play Quake on the LAN on those computers at lunchtime, the headphone jack was handy for that.

  • @RandyDarkshade2
    @RandyDarkshade2 Год назад +6

    I have a couple of these speakers, no subwoofer though. I could see the benefit in these for those who may lack desk space and to be honest I think these drive bay speakers sound just as good (or bad) as some PC speakers anyway.

  • @MNGoldenEagle
    @MNGoldenEagle Год назад +15

    I almost wonder if that loud pop was a capacitor or resistor popping on the subwoofer that prevented it from operating properly, especially considering its mediocre bass output.

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 Год назад +5

      It was the sound card driver being initialised.

  • @chumbawumba1959
    @chumbawumba1959 Год назад +1

    Ah man, how did I not know all of those 5¼ bay thingies existed ... like the eq and the vu meter doo-dads. I had a ginormous tower that had huge power supply and also six 5¼ bays to play with. My go-to reason for having this was to use slide-in 5¼ drive trays so I could have so much flexibility with versions of Windows and diff boot drives and/or specialized storage. Live and learn and exactly why I subscribe to LGR :)

  • @metricton8167
    @metricton8167 Год назад +1

    Dude, hit me like a herc pulse cannon with the nostalgia playing earthsiege. I played this game so much

  • @CssHDmonster
    @CssHDmonster Год назад +3

    when you want to make sure your hdd is nicely shaken

  • @NaokisRC
    @NaokisRC Год назад +11

    So Clint , when are you going to get a case like an InWin 2000 and stick all of these audio devices into a single case can call it the worst Computer HiFi? 😂

  • @alicesavage69420
    @alicesavage69420 Год назад +2

    WOW! I'm very thoroughly impressed with the Twin Sound and now I wish I could find one

  • @deenstratos9075
    @deenstratos9075 Год назад

    Great video Clint!as always.
    Neat t-shirt!

  • @lazzzzze1
    @lazzzzze1 Год назад +15

    Hi Clint, do you think you'll make a video related to your hifi setup specifically? I remember in some thrift episodes you mentioning getting some mid-century cabinets and speakers if you ever had the space. It'd be cool to see how you would mix retro and modern together.

  • @cuteraptor42
    @cuteraptor42 Год назад +3

    I feel like it's the best way to break your HDD in one step

  • @Roxor128
    @Roxor128 Год назад +2

    Ah, drive bay speakers. Every machine I used in the university computer labs had them. With that swivel mechanism, too. Didn't get used for much beyond Windows 98 sounds and playing the odd game of Hexxagon between sessions of writing/debugging code. I got pretty good at it, able to pretty reliably beat the Craniac on Hard.

  • @unixsyessir6265
    @unixsyessir6265 Год назад

    So much memories with these accessories. Excellent video as always.☺☺😀😀

  • @cjsebes
    @cjsebes Год назад +3

    So cool! I would check the subwoofer speaker and make sure the speaker surround isn't deteriorated. Maybe replace it with a more substantial speaker that costs more than $1.49. And the loose action of that swivel is probably adding to the rattling noise.
    I'd love to build a super-tall PC tower with as many of those add-ons as I could install.

  • @jakestocker4854
    @jakestocker4854 Год назад +3

    As stupid as stuff like this is and as much as I love modern day ITX builds, stuff like this is still just so cool to me lol. Justs hits a certain part of my brain that I can't explain.

    • @JaredConnell
      @JaredConnell Год назад +1

      You're not alone. That's why he does these videos and they get so many views lol

    • @jakestocker4854
      @jakestocker4854 Год назад

      @@JaredConnell true that. Glad there's a place where we can all come to enjoy this goofy obscure stuff of the past lol.

  • @Max_Marz
    @Max_Marz 7 месяцев назад

    Unlocked a core memory of sitting there flipping those speakers back and fourth and feeling them flush in the center.
    The one I encountered was installed in one of those under-monitor cases so it was right in front of you behind the keyboard. Made sense.

  • @punkrockllama
    @punkrockllama Год назад +1

    I was just about to write a comment about what if there's nothing above the "sub" as he pops into that part of the video. Great timing

  • @colescrustycars
    @colescrustycars Год назад +8

    Just curious, is the sub not supposed to be plugged into the sub output of the sound card?

  • @uselessDM
    @uselessDM Год назад +7

    Wouldn't the vibration potentially damage your drive?

  • @bradenlarsen2074
    @bradenlarsen2074 Год назад +1

    These used to be in our production pcs at the radio station as a backup if our logitek digital mixers went haywire while we were making production things.

  • @Phoenix7000
    @Phoenix7000 Год назад

    A little late to this, but I was the one who donated the Twin Sound. Great video, I have to give a shout out to Elliott Electronic Supply and their sister store EE Surplus in Tucson, AZ where I found this thing. Great store.

  • @SomePeopleCallMeWulfman
    @SomePeopleCallMeWulfman Год назад +3

    I don't think that a subwoofer close to spinning harddisks is such a great idea.

    • @danparish1344
      @danparish1344 Год назад

      Luckily, it doesn’ barely works (by design?) so your disks will operate without disturbance

    • @olik136
      @olik136 Год назад +1

      it is about the same setup in every notebook- it will be fine

  • @TravisSurtr
    @TravisSurtr Год назад

    A new LGR video a great Friday makes!

  • @kobalt_ren01
    @kobalt_ren01 Год назад +1

    Caught this one early! It'd be hilarious to get a really tall case and put a whole bunch of these drive bay devices in.

  • @DoctorFuzworth
    @DoctorFuzworth Год назад

    My favorite series on RUclips. The wonder of 5.25in bays.

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pz Год назад +2

    It's time for a LGR Woofer thing

  • @deadaccount6135
    @deadaccount6135 Год назад

    When you were testing the windows sample music i kept yelling ' try with duke 3D music! ' Glad you did, love it. Man i miss my old Boston Acoustics surround & subwoofer setup. Sound is important! 👍

  • @limeflashlight4101
    @limeflashlight4101 Год назад

    Weird and cool! I always like your videos LGR!

  • @xPandamon
    @xPandamon Год назад +1

    Funny thing is, just a few days ago at work (IT) we got tons of new PCs. I noticed they have pretty big speakers at the bottom front in the case and wondered why nobody every tried to place a subwoofer inside a PC. After all, it's a big box, right? And now this. I love it!

  • @RobynDavisAlbany
    @RobynDavisAlbany 3 месяца назад

    Back in the day, I worked at Turtle Beach Systems and i remember all sorts of PC Audio strangeness and goodness around the office including some of these. I remember being impressed with the sound that came from drive bay speakers and the fun of drive bay equalizers.

  • @Super8Rescue
    @Super8Rescue Год назад

    The days of installing kit like this in your tower brings back some memories for sure.

  • @jonahbaker4013
    @jonahbaker4013 Год назад

    Love your content LGR

  • @Dukefazon
    @Dukefazon Год назад

    Nice t-shirt! I love Blood!
    After I watched the episode (well, didn't even finish the episode) I hopped on auction sites to find if they have similar stuff. Sadly I couldn't find one, I really like the stereo one. I was convinced that you are holding the subwoofer upside down but I saw the text on the front. It's so weird that the subwoofer sounds so bad.

  • @chevron-vw5rn
    @chevron-vw5rn Год назад

    Two things you can always count on seeing/hearing in an LGR video, Canyon.MID and Duke Nukem and it never gets old.

  • @RMPANDA964
    @RMPANDA964 Год назад +1

    I feel like I would see these things in a flea market in the late 90s

  • @bfapple
    @bfapple Год назад +1

    For some reason, we had these exact speakers in our school PCs during the early 00s. But I never got to use them because the soundcard was always locked out… but at least the swivel feature was entertaining.

  • @bslprints9935
    @bslprints9935 Год назад

    I'm glad you showed the sub with nothing above it! I was wondering exactly that!

  • @montecorbit8280
    @montecorbit8280 Год назад +1

    At one point in time, my sister had a 5 1/4 inch Bay and on that hooked up to her sound blaster card so that she could control it and have headphones and speakers coming off that addin....
    For years I used a five and quarter inch drive Bay that had a water pump and reservoir for my liquid cooling system. I can just pull the driveway out a little bit to check the coolant levels and even add more into it. It was great and worked for years....
    By the way the fan and radiator were mint to be mounted on the other side of the case but I just had extra hose and I mounted it outside the case....

  • @JasonJrake
    @JasonJrake Год назад +1

    the 80s-90s computer enthusiast in me is unreasonably impressed by this kind of stuff.
    The coolest thing I've ever seen in a drive slot is a double-5.25-bay compact crt monitor.
    I was told that they were designed for industrial-use automation-control computers where you needed a minimal display, but could relocate the whole tower to a workstation with a "real" monitor for maintenance.
    It was pointless for my uses, but in 1992, the power to turn any PC into one of those commodore- luggable-style thingies was amazing to me. I have not seen one on RUclips ever, but I hold out hope...
    Some bay-mounted speakers would have gone real well with that CRT 😊.

    • @needfortweed8734
      @needfortweed8734 Год назад +2

      Have you checked out the video that Clint talked about where he tested an amber CRT? Though that did take up the whole front, not only two 5.25 bays... I really want something like that amber monitor (either to put in the case or as an external monitor)...

  • @kyanche
    @kyanche Год назад +1

    Ahhh these kinda videos make me really want to go find a case with a ton of drive bays and have some fun.

  • @Narwhil
    @Narwhil Год назад

    I don’t know how you keep finding weird tech from the 80s and 90s after a decade, but you do

  • @stormerbuzz352
    @stormerbuzz352 Год назад

    These are so cool!!!! You're making me wanna build an old PC

  • @itabiritomg
    @itabiritomg Год назад +1

    that is a very cool feature. Some Dell's today have something similar: a better-than-none speaker in the front part of the case for emergency times when you need to hear something but there is no other speaker nearby

  • @WiseAssGamer
    @WiseAssGamer Год назад +1

    I am watching this video on my TV. I had to lower the volume on my TV. Thank you very much. I think it works just fine. 😂😂😂😂

  • @mar4kl
    @mar4kl Год назад

    I'm planning to do a sleeper build of sorts in a 22-year-old case that a client gave me. The components inside were outmoded and not particularly interesting, but the case is sturdy, will accommodate an ATX or mATX build and has four front-facing 5-1/4" bays and two front 3-1/2" bays plus internal drive bays. I've been looking at different things that might fill the front-facing bays, and found some attractive options, like USB ports (since this case is too old to have any) and card readers. But all this made your video more interesting for me.
    There is a modicum of utility in passable front panel speakers. Nobody expects them to be great; all they really have to be is better than the tinny built-in speaker that you still find in some modern desktops. The subwoofer, on the other hand, was 100% gimmick that mainly preyed on consumers who didn't know what a subwoofer really is. A subwoofer works not so much by putting out loud bass noise, but rather adds depth to the sound by inducing sympathetic vibration. That's why it's supposed to be placed on the floor, and preferably under or near wood furniture. A properly functioning subwoofer mounted in a computer case would make the case resonate, which would most likely emphasize the wrong frequencies. In addition, it would cause anything loose in the case to buzz or rattle, causing unwanted noise. The "subwoofer" you demonstrated here, of course, is not a true subwoofer at all; it's just a front-facing speaker (maybe a pair; hard to tell without opening it up) made to look like a miniature subwoofer.
    I will probably not make it to VCF, but I hope you have a great time. Hopefully I will get to meet you at a future event.