DANDELION DYNASTY | Should You Read It?
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You give a very good pitch for this series ! I completely agree with the dislike for the 'techtalk' but being very impressed with Liu's treatment of political and cultural themes. Those parts are so good ! Even with all the issues I think Speaking Bones had, I still am glad we choose to read these books. It's a impressive series and I'm already looking forward to re-reading the books ( well some in any case)
Definitely want to get into Ken Liu next year, probably starting with the Paper Menagerie. I’m glad you said the engineering stuff didn’t detract from your enjoyment too much even if wasn’t your favorite bit of it, that’s one thing that has made me a bit wary about reading the series.
I found it was worth it to push through the bits that to me, personally, were a bit of a slog
yeah, I think I feel very similar to you on it (having only read two book so far though) - the cultural/political evolution of the kingdom has been absolutely stunning, it's just it gets bogged down in other modes at times. First book is definitely my favorite thus far, and I'm betting it'll stay that way... but I'm definitely excited to continue.
+1 on 'All the Flavours' too, very much found it akin to Grace of Kings when I read it. Great advice.
yeah, my faves are (from what I gather) the fans least faves? I liked Grace of Kings and Veiled Throne best because they were the most character-centric and political, the other two have far more engineering
I didn't want to start a new series, but from your description, this sounds exactly like something I need to read! I am just now going through Fire and Blood for the second time and I started wondering where I could find something similar.
it's definitely not a one-to-one with Fire and Blood but I think anyone who has the patience to read and enjoy something as meaty and dense as Fire and Blood would be well suited to a meaty and dense series like this one
This was a perfectly articulated description of this series. Thank you!
Yes the dandelion dynasty series is definitely worth a read just started on speaking bones so far I'm liking it
Dry and unengaging is a good description. I only read the first book, but it felt way more like a history textbook than Fire & Blood.
The second book is a huge huge improvement. Give it a chance.
Minus the "technotalk" thing, this sounds like The Long Price Quartet. Looking forward to reading it soon.
hope you enjoy!
Hello 👋 like ur review video!! Happy Fall 🍂🍃 reading to you!! 🦋
Thank you for this! Sending it off to my SFF book club. :)
Thanks for making this! I've been curious about Ken Liu ever since finishing the Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy, which he did most of the translation for. I'll definitely pick up paper menagerie!
Paper Menagerie is insanely good
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you. I am on the side of "Nope, this is not for me"
After watching yours and Bookborn’s videos on this series, I’m definitely going to give it a try and see what I think. I also think I’ll try Paper Menagerie-thanks for the tips on stories with some similarities to try out.
I try to decide if I am going to like it as it is 4 books series. I love the ending of your video as to why it is a best recommendation or no-for-you-tipe of book explenation that I experienced till now.👍✨️
I did skip the hoooole middle part to not spoil myself at all.
Fabulous ! I read Grace of Kings earlier this year and adored it, can’t wait to get to the rest, thinking of picking Wall of Storms after my current book.
hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
i liked it a lot. loved that engineering substituted for magic in many ways. yeah it gets frustrating at some points but i really enjoyed all 4. especially the last 2
Excellent video!! I adore this series, but I agree that it really isn't for everyone. I was actually quite surprised by how much I loved it, because the engineering and war/battle scenes should have bored the heck out of me, but somehow I could tolerate them so well here, haha.
The whole anthropological aspect is what kept me glued to the page as well. And the writing... just *chef's kiss* 🤌
Hope your video convinces some more people to pick this up, because it deserves way more love and hype!!
I'll admit the engineering and war/battle did bore me a bit at times but I thought the overall project was worth pushing through those bits
Great review, I heard this was a great book, but having listened to a 5 minute preview, your review confirmed that I'm unlikely to enjoy it. The anthropological side does interest me, but I prefer a more personal perspective. Ursula Le Guin has the right tone for me in this department. Anyone writing like that?
Going to try and read this series and then watch your amazing video love you and your amazing channel please stay safe and enjoy your reading love your family friend John ❤❤prayers and thoughts for you and your family xx
I am like you and did find this series to have dark content but its tone wasn’t grim dark to me. But I am also all vibes when defining those things 😅
grimdark I feel like is a matter on the overall message/perspective ofered by the book - grimdark, to me, is cynical, nihilistic, hopeless, etc. whereas non-grimdark books, even if they have dark content or subject matter, still have more hopeful, optimistic, etc. themes or messages
I do want to give this a shot, but I need to finish Malazan and then take a break from heavier books, so probably won't get to it for another 6 months or so.
I just can't with the title of the book... 🤣 Sorry for the off-topic no need to know info here, but the title just translates so poorly into Icelandic (my language). If I directly translate it, it's going to sound like "the idiot kingdom" and let's face it, I directly translated it in my head as soon as I read the title of your video so I would always, always when reading the book... 😂 It sounds interesting though. The plot, that is. ☺
Will there be a box set of The Dandelion Dynasty Book Series?
How much do you trust Goodreads on this series ?
And, do you check GR before you decide to read a book ?
So I'm NOT the only person that has this ocd-inducing atrocity of 4 un-matching hardcovers. How do you cope?
I'm sad I assumed this was full spoilers and didn't listen to it when it first dropped.
when the comments are closed and it just shows one comment, it's a spoiler comment when I open the comments ita not at the top... so why did RUclips decide to highlight a spoiler as its chosen comment
I loved this book BUT it is not an easy book to read. To me this is like 8% fantasy and the 92% Historical fiction. Many of what is talked about in the book happened in history with the names and places changed. The thing I found the hardest to get through was not the machines talked about but the long winded chapters on military and war strategy. To me it's the reason I wanted to DNF it. Doing the audiobook for this section helped but still made it hard for me. But I felt it was a worthwhile read and topic to push through. Where Ken shines though in is his character building- as through that Ken packs with book with wisdom and lessons. These books are DENSE and very rarely let up which can also be hard at times. It shows the reality of what so many suffered at the hands of man who craved nothing more than their own glory and power- and then generations who came after simply following suite doing the same. Add to that the book writes that the gods are just as flawed if not more so than man. It has an oppressive sad feel at times and you will need to take breaks. But I feel every leader or person in power should be required to read this series at least once! As hard as this book was at times the lessons and wisdom Ken packed into this series will stay with me for life. It also requires you to have to face the harsh reality that many people lived and LIVE through still today. You cant turn the channel. The lessons and asking you to think deeply also never lets up. Again you probably will find yourself getting fatigued, if it helps take a break and read a lighter book while reading this series. Ken also requires you to look fairly even at men/woman who have done wrong- that often times maybe they started with good intent but power unchecked changed them overtime. He also does now allow you to put the "heroes" on a pedestal. He shows that even those who choose to do good- are. flawed, make mistakes, need counsel, and to remain teachable and humble. Id say go into this like historical fiction, if you get fatigued take a break its worth getting through and not DNFing, use. audio format for the harder parts, journal and think deeply on the lessons given. This is not an easy book and in opinion is not really fantasy, but it's a worthwhile book nonetheless. If you have read the poppy wars it's in the same vein but it does a far better job in my opinion executing the themes.
I personally loved the military strategy etc. I was so intrigued by the battles and the tactics used.
the moment the son offed himself cause of a fake message from not dad, for honor! i nope'ed out.
ta for the spoilers
@@Atlasss97 sorry, it happens really early on and not to the main character.
William Hope Hodgeson often got distracted by engineering and going into painful detail about stuff (stuff like how much rations a guy would eat every day on a trip). I like a lot of his books, but in general, I skip over engineering.
yes exactly, this series completed something amazing and it's ideas were new and interesting. but I loved the first book, liked the 2nd book, disliked the 3rd, and was bored in the 4th. I dunno. It took me so long to get through the series lmao
my enjoyment did decline a bit after the first one, but I loved the latter half of Veiled Throne which I'm told everyone hates haha
Would you compare this to the writing in like the Silmarillion?
not really, though I suppose a little just in terms of the somewhat "mythic" quality it occasionally has, particularly when it off-roads to tell you some lore, but I wouldn't say you should go into this expecting it to be like the Silmarillion
Oh I didn't like the nested story telling in All the Flavours so thinking I'll give this series a pass
yeah, if you're not a fan of that I think it's highly likely DD wouldn't work for you because it has a ton of that
I dnf'd it at 50%
reads like a history textbook and somebody needs to tell the author that women exist. For 30 introduced (and murdered right after a 5-6 page long backstory) characters in the 1st half of the grace of kings alone, there were only 2 women: 1 spends half the time picking herbs and the rest giving birth to and raising children while patiently waiting for her Big Brave Man to come back from war and the 2nd one is a pretty princess who wants to dedicate her life to academic pursuits, but then her goddess tells her to abandon her ambitions and to just weaponize her beauty instead. constant mentions of prostitutes and selling women to whorehouses. lmao honestly fuck this.
ALSO you would think that in a world where women seemingly don't exist, there'd be more gays, right? lol as if
no matter how well crafted the world is, I just can't get through it
by the end of the series, the vast majority of the characters you are following, the POVs, are females
@@LienesLibrary oh i see, ty for the info ^^ thats still quite the chonkers to get through until that happens, but who knows, maybe I will revisit the series one day
Warning - spoilers - I listened to Grace of Kings just recently and I feel a bit disappointed. I enjoyed the first 2/3 or so - but the final conflicts in the last 1/3 or so - just got BORING 🥱- I forced myself to listen to the entire book but I feel like the last 1/3 or so was a waste of my time and obviously concluded as expected. The airships were interesting as were the whales and the birds. The misunderstandings between the “brothers” were nonsense. The tragic flaws in Mata were juvenile. The other “brother” had an arc of personality change which didn’t make sense, at least Mata was consistent! The end was full on cliche. Yuk. Why is this so highly rated?