Dee was super passionate in this video I love it! And I agree with everything she said, they went in not wanting to listen to the other side from the start
@@thompsonjames918 💀 you just said all that for nothing Dee is not biased she calls women out on things too but this specific topic is about black women not wanting to settle for less as we shouldn’t y’all love to call us gold diggers but y’all don’t wanna date a girl who is a 6 bc y’all shallow asf Gtfo so excuse us for wanting a man who can HELP provide for us it’s a collaborative effort not men just taking care of us
As someone who has been the sole financial provider in a relationship, regardless of the other person and how they are, that stress can break a relationship on its own.
@@lol_youre_mad funny seeing women complain about being the provider when no real man complained about providing. it was only when woman wanted to provide to they start complaining about providing🤣 if you want traditional treatment, be a traditional woman
@@rando6192 literally what are you talking about…. 1. I have heard many men complain about being the sole provider especially if they aren’t financially where they want to be yet 2. I didn’t specify gender in my original comment. It was a general statement saying that financial stress alone can break a relationship on its own, doesn’t matter how great your partner is 3. I date for love which is the exact reason I ended up as the sole provider when I was too young to be trying to do that anyways. You shouldn’t do that.. male or female. Now what’s your problem.
@@ninajena4214 when i was broke my girl provided for me and even invested in me, she never complained and she did that for years as a lash technician. now she doesnt work a day again, became a wife, and lives in a home thats provided for, drives an amg and manages my business portfolio. She provided until i could provide for her
@@ninajena4214 so what your saying is no one should be a sole provider, male or female. so it should be 50/50 right? thats cool you can live like that but judging by your comments and your deleted one😉 i can tell that 50/50 gonna become a real issue for you soon
@@SpacemanBruceyea. A Korean househusband different culture different expectations different life. Tell me what black man in North America gonna proudly tell his boys I’m a house husband. Cause the lazy crusty fucks who “love” you and pay the light bill barely is known to be out here cooking cleaning and unconditionally loving? Really? Let’s not be insincere here it’s ridiculous.
its something that is an aspect of modernity in the west and the current culture that will become more relevant as time goes on as the pay disparity and education disparity increases in the future generations, in denmark its not uncommon to have men handle the kids, the black culture is not like this currently
We are supposed to talk about this … there’s nothing wrong with having conversations about it. Some people shouldn’t have them because they aren’t prepared.
@@SpacemanBrucespeaking of Koreans I ran into a RUclips short which claimed that there aren’t much Koreans babies being born. The Korean women in the comment section were listing misogyny and low income as a reason why. This made me gasp! I hadn’t realize other women from other cultures are going through this too 😮
And let's be specific, Black people in America at that. My family is from Jamaica and so is my man and whenever I've had conversations with them about relationships the sentiment is always that a man should be a provider. My boyfriend said he's not worried about what I have as long as he has it we're good. These "women need to settle" conversations aren't common for all Black people this is just a talking point in America.
This is honestly how it usually goes🤷🏽♀️ I think because it’s a debate, they’re gonna actually explain why they feel what they feel about the situation
Them complaining about the system where men have to work and women don’t …. WHO INVENTED THAT SYSTEM? Be mad at yourself, yo daddy, yo friend, yo grandpa
@@unbrokensmoke4380 the patriarchy exists everywhere even within our communities even before Colonialism don’t use the yt man now as a scapegoat. Regardless they benefit from the system as men and here they are crying and whining without making any points without showing any statistics without referencing anything just a bunch of ugly bums
My mom married a bum dude who doesn’t work, doesn’t clean, and doesn’t cook and I have every right to call him a bum. I was working three jobs while going to school paying my bills and my mom bills and sending money to my siblings and I paid for my siblings stuff as well and now I said forget that so now I’m going to the Army to live my own life.
Yes! So happy for you!Focus on your peace and happiness and don't feel bad about it either! With a man in the house you shouldn't have to do all that it's not right! I been there done that!
Yeah my mom will always be my mom until I don’t exist even after that she is and I will always do what I can for her but she should have picked a better husband in my opinion someone who can stand with her not beyond her
GOOD FOR YOU. You are NOT their parents. I hope your army life works out. God knows if you didn’t you’d still be supporting your entire family by yourself when your parents, especially that man is fully capable of supporting his family. So many black women are in situations like this I refuse to be a part of it. Your mom is your mom and that will never change but also don’t let that get in the way of right and wrong. She made her choice at the end of the day and you didn’t ask to be in that situation so don’t ever feel like you are obligated to. I regularly had to remind my mother that she was not responsible for her brothers who refused to do anything productive in their lives and yet she still acted like she was their mother and was working herself to the bone for these grown ass men. I made it clear that when I am able, I am leaving and not looking back. Continue breaking the cycle ladies
Dee as a gay man you are SO f’n right. I have argued with my male friends for YEARS about this. If women are greedy, then men are vain in what they seek. Women are honest about it, men act like victims and it drives me CRAZY. I also use the twilight zone reference all the time.
I just don't bother bringing up these topics. You have to remember many people don't have morals and many people don't take accountability. So when you combine those two type of people, you will never get a sane argument for most general people. That's why just leave it alone, let them cry about their struggles while us sane people will find love because we live and understand the truth
@@bunnyrabiI’m so glad you said this. It resonates with me, truly. Especially the first part. I’m starting to do the same. Move in silence. Don’t even bother when they bring these topics up. When they say shit to get your reaction, say “ok” and keep it pushing. Don’t ignore what they say either. But just don’t engage. They 100% mean that shit so don’t believe the sweet nothings they tell you when it comes time that they want to get in your pants and eventually leech off of you.
@@TasteMyRainb0w That men are not these innocent fawns in the woods they pretend to be, they will never date women that they feel are less attractive then them, so if women are greedy men are vain. Not sure your confusion.
It’s arrogant that people are always trying to tell women what their standards should be. How are you going to tell me where I should be investing my energy? I determine who receives my emotional and mental labor, loyalty, support, and body. It’s not my job to make sure that men at all levels can have a romantic relationship.
Men who get mad at women that DON’T want to date them… is wild. Too many fish in the sea. Stop going for women that aren’t in your lane and what YOU want… simply date down. It’s a simple concept really.
@@rochekalifa2074 Thats fine. That’s just your prerogative then. Definitely feel free to disagree with me, but I said what I said & I’m not going to change what I said either.
@KITTIMIN honestly i agree you shouldn't get mad that someone dont want you it wasnt meant to be thats fine. But! Alot of women who are in your lane looks wise also go for higher which is why average men are having a hard time. Guys that are above her league are using her as an ego boost and sneaky link while guys who want to bring stability gets ignored. Thats the issue
Maybe I'm confused, but why does he want women that aren't interested in dating down to date down? Wouldn't it be easier to find a woman that wants to date down versus trying to convince people that don't want to date down?
Nobody wants to date down. Seems like a ridiculous thing say. You are right though. I think it’s crazy to tell woman to lower their standards over and over again. You just allow the ones with ridiculous wants to get them or not. It’s as simple as that. However, Most black woman are in the same socioeconomic status as most black men. There aren’t hordes of black woman making more money then men. Black woman make $30K on average. There aren’t a ton of these “boss bitches” despite what social media would tell you.
@@kikialeaki1850your getting upset for no reason 😂😂😂. All I said was it's pretty stupid to try and convince women that don't want to date down to date down. Is dating down politically incorrect now? You want me to say significant others that make less? I don't know why you assume that I want Men to date down. If men don't wanna date down then why should they have to. That's my whole point you might as well find people that want to date down instead of trying to convince people that don't want to. You put words into my mouth because you got triggered.
ain't no amount of love a man or woman could offer me that would make me forget or let them slide with not paying bills, bro 😂 love me enough to help pay our expenses.
@@brandond1947 sure. and that's fine, but we're talking within the perimeters that tyler perry set, which essentially was- love should take precedence over finances in a relationship. 'if you really love that man so much, how much he makes or contributes shouldn't matter to a woman, as long as they're tight and in love', right? which i think is bogus. if you really love someone, you wouldn't leave that person shouldering all the financial responsibilities. nor would you have them taking care of / babying your ass.
@@nunyuh7102taking care of them AND their kids too. In the traditional relationships these men would float over is that the woman would do the cleaning and cooking and raising the kids but I can bet 100% the men who Tyler perry is telling black women to support would NEVER do that shit 😂 all of it will still lie on the black woman. Black women, PLEASEEE don’t fall for the tricks
I would never advise women or men to fully take care of someone at all times. I am a gay man so it’s different for me, but even in my relationships I don’t feel comfortable being fully taken care or fully taking care of anybody. I would never understand why would a GROWN ADULT want to be fully taken care of and do nothing while your partner(male or female) is out there working!!! It is the most inconsiderate shit ever to me.
Exactly. Even my mother always told me never to marry a woman who doesn't wanna work. Cuz everything is expensive and it'll be too much for just me to do all alone. Both my parents worked and payed bills too
@brownjaded when it comes to looks, I just need to be attracted to her natural self. And ratings can differ from person to person. I might consider someone an 8, while another person might see her as a 5.
What I’m learning from this repetitive ass convo we, the black community, have once a month is that we don’t have to do what anybody says. Everybody should date who they want to date and conduct their relationship as they choose. I ain’t gotta do shit I don’t want to do.
Thank you so much for addressing this video. I had to stop watching after the first three seconds. These are the same people who asked why are black women masculine and yet expect expect them to be take on the “masculine” role .
Trye in America BW are masculine and 82% are overweight mostly obese. They're getting worse Black babies in Houston are born with syphilis. THE NEGRO PROJECT
@@Exodus26.13Pi BW are of course not masculine - the lowest performing males call masculine: taking care of yourself, having a career, not being docile or a doormat, and not being afraid to voice and value your own opinion. That's not masculine that's called intelligence, responsible and self-respect. And not so coincidentally, these are traits many BM lack, so it's not surprising that you'd call that masculine, because you don't have the faintest idea what it is.
Yeah it’s pretty much always been expected that men who do the bare minimum deserve all the love and adoration that he can get from a woman. Meanwhile, women have to be everything and beyond to even be seen as worthy of consideration. That’s why Kevin Samuels and Andrew Tate had such large reaches
Wtf are you even talking about. He never said be with a man thats giving you the bare minimum. He said just because you may make more than a man whos still giving you all the things you need out of a partner doesn't mean you should overlook him simply cause his check isn't as big as yours.
@@mekk96 exactly but this is what men have been dealing with for decades. The financial burdens of society when it comes to relationships. We fought for woman to have to have the same burden and rights and somehow now its a problem. This is just how the society functions
A man that is not financially stable and not well off in his career is usually an unhappy man! Leave that man alone until he is financially comfortable and stable!
Not half tbh, All* Men and women have their roles to play, a man should protect and provide for his family, economic situation of society does not matter to the degree that people think it does. If you cant afford to pay all the bills as a man you should not be married, just because marriage is there doesn’t mean everyone should deserve to have one. If a woman is paying all the bills and her man is a house husband, she will literally lose respect and sexual attraction to him, it’s been observed by many studies and all but 100% confirmed as an eventuality, maybe your woman will not be like the VAST majority, and you will get that unicorn who doesn’t mind working all the time and allowing you to be home and cook and clean and raise the kids, but it’s definitely a rare mentality. All this confusion and gender war stuff is happening because the genders are battling over their roles and the roles have now become ill defined. When people don’t know what they should be doing they tend to start feeling lost and irritable.
Idk why they tryna make it seem like there black women don’t have money bc there are a LOT of black women who are financially stable/successful… and they calling that ladies argument dumb bc they know she read Tyler Perry and them…
@@dragobender2459 all debt is not bad. If you improve your financial literacy, you'll come to understand the concept of "other people's money". Try working on that.
I think the confusion is with people thinking the “modern woman” wants a “traditional man” We don’t, that’s obvious, but we also don’t want a man that is okay with being entirely provided for (unless the woman is in the top 10%). Most modern women want a man that’s at least on her level or can pull his own weight from the jump. We are not switching sides with men, women are just catching up with men financially in this generation. Would love to double the money up when we get together, not have to divide what I have in half to provide for another adult 😂 only people I’m willing to do that for is my future children.
Idk y ppl don’t encourage men to be more ambitious, career driven, invest in the right things, take care of the home first, etc. Why is it always Black women come down to meet them where they at?And even bw choose down they still get blamed for choosing wrong. I’m not really a fan of Playback vids in general. Their takes r very podcast red pill ignorant incel bias insecure takes
What kind of drugs are you on?!? Men are literally expected to have their shit together before being in a serious relationship. The whole point of their video is that women have fought to reach the level of money and success a lot of men have. And guess what? When you are at the level, your options are limited. Men have literally been “dating down” for decades and understand the responsibility that comes with being the breadwinner. Women are the only ones complaining. When do you hear a dude complain about “dating down” when trying to find a wife?
Well I do agree that encouraging is very important but I don’t necessarily agree black women must come down to meet them. Because the reality is the standards that most women do have is not realistic the type of money some of these women want men to have they don’t even have it’s very small percentage of men that make that money. And a even smaller percentage of women who make that type of money. Tyler used a over exaggerated example maybe 5x more for him is realistic lol but not the average man or woman. And men have always been taught to get a job pay bills and take care of the family well I have you have to be a provider protector and lover. Men are actually taught to prepare for a relationship in the future even though some men may want to be single the end goal we are taught is always marriage or what a women thinks. I was always taught about making sure my credit is good cause no woman wants a man with bad credit and if you have s family that’s important make sure you making enough to provide I was even taught at a teen age with dating if you can’t pay you shouldn’t date as a teen like you can’t even get a job until your like 17 in certain states 🤣 men are least taught money matters. But I’m just guessing that most men are getting out of that mentality becuase there are some standards that we are required to meet but are partners don’t have to meet certain standards. I’ve said it before women want a traditional man but not a traditional relationship. So while men have to be nothing but traditional women can kinda decide if they want to be housewives or work and even if you make more money you shouldn’t have to contribute cause you know the saying “mine money is mine and his money is mine” 🤣 Also I don’t think if a man makes less doesn’t mean his less ambitious his career path may not be the most paying and yours may pay more maybe he wants to be a chef and you want to be a doctor your clearly going to make more then him but does that make him less ambitious? I feel these standards are coming from money you make less money somehow your less ambitious. And I do definitely agree men do need to be taugh to invest in the right things and also learn how to be a help around the house I feel a relationship is a team you pick up where he lacks and he picks up where you lack if he lost his job and you are working then he needs to do things around the house get up and get the kids ready cook clean organize bills run errands things like that and vice versa I don’t think it makes him less of a man to do laundry 🤣 I hope everyone does their laundry. But also coming from a black man we are taught money credit proved protect but we are never given the right sources I don’t know nothing about shares or the stock I didn’t know about credit in depth until I did my own learning but ofc my parents weren’t taugh those things so their credit is uh….. not so good my credit is good but that’s becuase I did my own research my parents didn’t at young ages. I’m so sorry for the short book I didn’t know how much I hat typed until I looked over it 🤣
Nah my sister definitely dated a bum, he just sat in her apartment and got drunk all day. I used to get on her ass everyday until she finally woke up and left him. So Lo and Agent missed wit this one.
@@DarkManX16agreed! So to your logic, women are "choosing better" by not partnering with men who can only pay a light bill. Those men are poor choices.
It’s actually funny 😂 Agent is Ethiopian and his experience isn’t the same as African Americans. I’m in his community, the men are expected to provide just like other African communities and immigrant communities. He hangs around too many AA men that have Tyler’s Perry mentality to be preaching what he is saying. I guarantee he wouldn’t be able to get an Ethiopian women with this mentality. Hmm
What shocked me was when he said most other parts of the world money is not the most important value. When in many African, Asian and Arab cultures men literally have to pay a dowry💀. I don’t like when he makes reference to African topics cause he’s not an accurate representation at all.
@@teresam5199 It's not backwards. BM have no issues with women of other races, but BW constantly want to fight with them, which is them being masculine. BW are the issue here.
my mom was in this situation with my dad. Then she was in it again when my step dad got fired from his job. Shit is not fun being a kid and seeing this shit go down. One of the main reasons why I want to do better for myself. I grew up around lazy deadbeats that depended on women while they sit on the game all day. Some of my cousins that grew up around this behavior ended up like that. They rather think about getting hoes instead of taking care of their kids and focusing on their goals in life. My cousin got mad when I told him that he talks about hoes a lot more than he talks about his kids. I don't care he needed to hear it from another man since the dude he be hanging around could careless
I’m so sorry you had to experience that! I come from a similar household, I feel your pain- trust ❤ You’re a real one for that! Most men don’t call out their partners! He got mad because he knew it was true😂 Wishing you much success in life, sir!!
I've seen plenty of niggas making bank dating & marrying some the most below average looking women ever. The relationships in my family, friend group & last relationship is also living proof of this.
I enjoy Dee reaction to PlayBack since I like both of them and hearing both sides of a issue about these topics definitely enlightens me and make me look differently on every side. Keep ‘em up Dee
i just realized this is coming from a billionaire trying to give a "money isnt everything" approach on the topic; A man pulling what weight he can in a household where the woman is making more is ok, BUT THESE WOMEN DONT WANT FREELOADERS IN THEIR HOUSE, MR. PERRY!!
They must practice selective listening bc I don’t understand why they are not getting the point lol. Ladies and gentleman this is a prime example of people who are just trying to stir up controversy. Bottom line, be able to take care of yourself then seek whatever it is you are looking for and hopefully it works out for ya
I was with Tyler until I wasn't. As a man I have to say a man should be able to take care of himself. I'm not going to advocate for women or men to get with someone that's going to make them resentful. Love should be important in relationships. But at the same time communication is key. What I just watched was two men only put one side of issue out there and ignore the other side. This only added fuel to the fire and no true solutions provided. Dee keep being real because it's so many talking out the side of their mouths. Dee you called it from the beginning and they never touched on it. This is why I fucks with you because you're real and you don't care what anyone thinks and you shouldn't.
That second woman ACTUALLY needs a podcast speaking non stop facts, But dee raising the number of pounds each time is sending me "400,500,700 POUND 2 WOMAN"
21:02 does he notice that most women live this lifestyle that he is describing? I know for a fact that my OBGYN mother still has to come home after calls and after her 9 - 5 shifts and be mother, cook, maid, etc. He has the audacity to say that is mind blowing but most modern women who have a career has to live like this. All this with her husband (my father) in the house. Granted he is a dentist, but he gets to come home, go back out, hang with his friends, do whatever he wants to do, then come home and put his feet up and expects his wife to have a nice hot meal ready for him. He saying that lifestyle doesn't exist? Wrong. It just doesn't exist for men. Andthis is the exact thing that woman are fed up with. How do you want a 50/50 relationship and you aren't willing to put that 50 in anything other than cash?
Nobody should be expected to look after you financially, regardless of if the woman is looking after the man or if the man is looking after the woman. But because for some reason it's alot more acceptable for a man to carry a woman financially, I think that IF i was one of the people who supported that, it would only be fair for a woman to be able to do the same if she wants to.
PREACH!!! People are such hypocrites with this situation. Don't talk shit about a man that's being taken care of financially by his woman if you wouldn't do the same to a woman being taken care of financially by her man.
I agree! Whatever works best for the couple! To answer your question though in regards to why is it more socially acceptable for a man to take care of a woman because, that’s how patriarchy was set up🤷🏾♀️ women weren’t able to even have their own debit cards 70 years ago- why? Laws created by men 😂. Silly, huh? Now that isn’t a thing anymore, some women who are in 50/50 relationships find themselves doing most of the caregiving, household chores, and paying 50% of the bills. That’s why many women are opting for traditional relationships I personally believe that women who choose traditional relationships should continue to have their independence and own money on the side because men used to be able to get away with abusing women (domestic violence was socially acceptable not even a century ago) due to them having to be dependent on them. If that is the route you choose- move smart! I
I think what playback was talking about in the end is that they’re all responding to the money part with the looks scenario but love is being excluded out of it completely. Like yes men are visual creatures but you can’t group everyone into the same category, not all men get with women only for looks. I mean most people as human being me want partners that look good but there are other criteria. The example Tyler Perry used was extreme and I think it’s taking away from the point he was actually trying to make (if he has use a less extreme example I don’t think the outrage would have be as bad). It’s just unfortunate that the example he used is taking away from the actual point. When 2 people who get into a relationship with ACTUAL love ( not superficial stuff like looks and money), it’s doesn’t matter who makes more money, with true love it’s more likely that y’all can grow together no matter the financial situation or circumstance.
I just watched the end of your video💀 and I’m sorry Dee but a man who truly loved you wouldn’t be hating on your success like that, I’m glad you figured that out. This why kept mentioning “true love”, that’s really hard to find and of course so whatever works best for you
It took a while to scroll and find someone that I agree with. He spoke poorly point his point was about finding that love and not disregarding it because of money. I am sure if he flipped it he would be saying fellas stop looking at just the looks find the love. That is all I believe he was saying.
@@1984hacked lol same here, I was looking for a reasonable response l. But yeah the main point was that getting into a relationship ONLY for superficial reasons like looks and money isn’t the way to go. You can have your standards, but the end goal is to find someone who truly loves you and that means you can compromise to a certain extent regardless of the gender
I just think ppl are optimistic when it comes to finding love so if you believe you can find love with multiple ppl you’re gonna try to get find the one that’s financially stable or looks good. There’s no need to settle for just love when there’s so many opportunities especially with social media
They keep bringing up about how women are now realising the struggles men have been going through for generations but aren't acknowleding women weren't legally allowed to work and given the same rights as men for generations (not even getting into how this was exacerbated for black woman). The public education system needs an overhaul and we obviously need to start emphasizing empathy in school curriculumn. Mfs out here using their mouths RECKLESSLY!!!
6:47 has me laughing my ass off because I'm still in this situation watching my mom take care of everything mean while my BIRTH father that I dont even want here doesnt even pay a bill the only thing he does is drive us around he is literally just an extra mouth to feed and I still dont under stand why she haven't dropped this guy yet.
They're being historically ignorant at this point. When they stated "men have to deal w/ this for generations." Just because it happen that way doesn't mean it was women choice. Men made the rules and set the standards for life. Women didn't have rights! Women couldn't work and if they did.. it was minimum wage or less. So they were condition to find a provider for their financial stability. Since they couldn't have money or open a banking account. And now that they got a little of something today... They still don't need support!?
I actually see a ton of guys with women who are lower than them in looks but they are a happy couple (Ironic, because most women only go for guys who look better than them)... Men settle just as much as women, if not more tbh. Also, it should be noted that a woman losing weight is significantly easier than a man becoming rich. The two are not comparable.
Question: where is Tyler Perry’s wife? He wants to give advice about women financially supporting their men but not one time you see Tyler with a woman. Now I understand that people like living private lives but we’ve known him for this long and not one we ever hear that he is married, dating, or even taking a woman out to dinner. I think if you aren’t in that situation then you shouldn’t give advice
Also given the fact that statistically speaking, women who are the breadwinners still are expected to take care of the household chores and childcare duties.
My only point is it’s crazy that we as a culture are having financial dynamic conversations while we’re all in a recession ‼️🤯 Beyond that I love passionate Dee, she was cooking !! ❤️‼️🤣
This lady is right. They never tell males this and for the most part you never see blk males with money reach down and take blk women with them. They will get a preference but we are always expected to help elevate them. No ma’am 🙅🏽♀️
Agent and Low need to go toe to toe with women like Dee who aren’t gonna minimize themselves to appease their ego and call them out. Cause they had A LOT of those on peer to peer lol.
I honestly think most men wouldn’t even feel comfortable letting their woman be the sole provider. You just wouldn’t feel like a man at that point. As a man I wouldn’t even get into a relationship unless I knew I had my stuff together and I could at least take care of myself and everything I need.
I stopped at 9:00 for a second just to say Dee fukn cooked whew chile i was just snapping my fingers and nodding with the stank face she was spitting so much damn heat
Money is everything in a relationship. I’ve learned this from every group of women except blk women. Yes I value money over everything in a relationship you gotta have it.
@@mekalashay7111 I merely wished you yourself find happiness, wasn't saying i hope you find someone else to make you happy. Also, i hope you come to realize the options that are available when it comes to money, and countries. Do keep in mind, if you put money as your number one focus, you will spend your life wasting it away doing things you don't want to go on simply living. That isn't conducive to living a happy life.
Statistically speaking, marriages where the wife makes more than the husband are 50% more likely to get divorced. The reason for that is because it's going against natural order, and I'm going to stand on that till the day I die. I will GLADLY stick to my list, Tyler Fairy. Thanks. 😊
Very true. Ultimately, even if the woman is "okay" with that (which she shouldn't be), the marriage will not last. It WILL fail. Then the woman may end up paying him alimony! No way 🚫
If Dee never posted these Playback (aka PlayStupid) reactions, I would never know they existed. I'm not watchin 2 dudes deflect questions with random statistics for 10-20mins. Not unless Dee commentin on it. They mad annoying. They over here with their opinion but get weird when other people got somethin to say. Like you don't have to be right all the time😭
Why is it that only black women have to settle? That’s the goal for other races of women to get A man to take care of them. But black woman have to sell themselves short, get out of here Tyler👋🏽. Dee preaching today 😂🙌🏾. Black women do need to step outside of their comfort zone and date men of different races and cultures because it’s other men out here ladies. But make sure you heal your mental and have an open mind first before you date other races and cultures.💛🌻
All this dating confusion is coming from ill defined gender roles. A man needs to shut up and take care of his god damn business and pay the bills and do his nature given role as a protector. And women need to shut up and do their nature given role as a nurturer and caretaker, this gender war stuff is so infuriating, if people just shut up and do what needs to be done more, there would not be so much damn confusion smdh
I think its different if the man refuses to better himself to provide more. I would then call him lazy. For men who are disabled, or have debts, child support, etc, or struggling, provide in other ways. Helping around the house, cleaning, cooking, yard work, errands, etc. This is meant to be temporary unless you are disabled, you do what you are able to.
No it’s not meant to be temporary. Men who are down bad with debt and other problems are rarely men who help around the house, often for the same reasons they’re in financial trouble to start with.
You know the crazy part... they gon want a woman to not only take care of a man financially but take responsibility of his emotional health and expect zero emasculation in the process of being his new step mother
I mean that was the goal of slavery in the west to mess up black people to this point. Too many black men are bums, and too many black women are ignoring their kids to take care of these bums lol. Our people can't stand up until the black men come together, stop saying stupid shit, and actually take care of their black women
I don't even know why this is a conversation. Women become very bitter when they have to spend money on anyone besides themselves. They aren't built to provide lol.
These are usually just conversations of men being blown away by the fact that women like different qualities in men than men like in women. There are some things you just have to accept. Idc how many think pieces we write on the unfair advantages of pretty privilege, gorgeous women are still getting picked first 🤷🏾♀️
Did Tyler perry mention once about being broke? I dunno man, if a guy makes a solid salary and the woman makes way more than him and takes care of most of the bills then whats the issue? Cause more time its the other way round, paying for the light bill ok that is a stretch but thats only if she is way above her tax bracket. When men take care of women its 2nd nature but when women take of men its either were broke or we want our partner to be our mother smh. All in all whatever people do in their relationship is the choices they made and stick to it I hope.
I don't think they are "pretending" in this instance. This is one of those instances when some men can't comprehend the roles reverse because it's not in their genetic makeup. They just can't fathom it. It's so sad because MOST men did grow up watching their mothers take care of everything (sometimes in addition to bringing home money too), and watched daddy do the BARE MINIMUM (work and bring home money) and that's what they aspire to be. Men (not all) are the head, yet they do the LEAST. Now that the roles aren't rolling, there's a glitch in the matrix. Nobody should aspire for struggle love (not just financially, but mentally and emotionally also). Let's take the shackles off.
Its much harder to build the financial freedom women expect than it is to find a beautiful/physically attractive women to meet his “shallow Desires” even if he’s broke. I think Tyler’s only point is it shouldn’t matter who the bread winner is.. exaggerated example being even if he could only pay the light bill.. The Love,honor, respect is what should matter over all. Mind you I believe in providing as a man I just think black men/women have been so conditioned to be at odds on financial responsibility its annoying to even unpack these conversations fr. I understand what Dee is saying but I think she along with most women only hear the opposite of what has been taught when assessing a real man.
I always skip the reactions with these 2 because no shade, but they are dumb as hell all the time, but I stuck for this one because the passion in Dee's statement had me feeling lit with her. Over here agreeing and talking to the monitor like she can hear me lol
He knows Oprah. Her man is broke compared to her and HE has money. Like you said it's not the damn same when it comes to the average person. He's out of touch.
I dont participate in these gender wars because i truly love my people and i believe its one big psyop to put the final nail in the black community and unfortunately its working insanely well.
I'm being genuine here, but WHAT?! While racism is a huge issue, a huge conspiracy makes no sense... not when a slight majority of white people are still on the side of good, and against hate. Granted, it's only a simple majority... but still a majority. The racist scumbags are still in the minority. Also, if you're paying attention, you'll notice this happening to both black and white. And THAT - now that I think about it - is the actual curious part. It just seems to be an issue with both of our people, and seems limited to only English-speaking Western countries/cultures. But the point is, it's happening to black and white people... the so-called "gender wars". But it may be different battles. Some of the white battles overlap, like this b.s. mentioned her. But among white people there is also the conservative religious bxllshxt, too. Maybe that's also going on with black people too. The sick expectation of women to be trad wives. The return of the good, traditional, 1950s Christian housewife. You see it all the time from from people like Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson.
@@S6Ryujin this is just a little suggestion, Transfer wealth to Black families End housing segregation Invest in education for Black students Cut child poverty Change can be made if the community sticks together and votes for the right person that’s going to end generational trauma within the black community
Not saying that I agree with his viewpoint, this is just for clarification lol but actually Tyler Perry movies are consistent with his view point: diary of a mad black woman, the family that prays, madeas family reunion etc. The women leave abusive rich guys and go get with men who drive buses, and work in construction. So it’s not surprising that TP would say this stuff now. Also driving buses and working in construction are good paying jobs, they’re not broke but I guess the perception in the movie is that the women lowered their financial standard. Again this is just for clarification don’t come at me too hard, I have no dog in this fight 😂
you’re right, but those women are still with men that aren’t bums. so what he said doesn’t align with his movies. he gave an extreme example about a woman having to take care of a bum
@@kpoverloaddd I understand that but in the family that preys he writes Sanaa Lathan’s character disrespecting her husband saying that she feels she has to support him financially and how she had to go get with a real man “Cartwright”. I’m just saying these views are sprinkled throughout some of his films about what he thinks of women who seek men of higher stature, & his opinions on preferring women dating men of lower status so it just wasn’t a surprise is all to me even tho it is a en extreme
Ngl, as a man I would feel some type of way if my wife was making significantly more than me. Not because I’m the jealous type but I was raised to believe that the man is the provider and the protector. And I stand firm on that belief.
Dee was super passionate in this video I love it! And I agree with everything she said, they went in not wanting to listen to the other side from the start
Exactly!!!
@@thompsonjames918 💀 you just said all that for nothing Dee is not biased she calls women out on things too but this specific topic is about black women not wanting to settle for less as we shouldn’t y’all love to call us gold diggers but y’all don’t wanna date a girl who is a 6 bc y’all shallow asf Gtfo so excuse us for wanting a man who can HELP provide for us it’s a collaborative effort not men just taking care of us
@@miles2176 it’s always the people with no pfp😭
She was hurting 😂
1:16 “alright ya lost me, ya f**king lost me, Madea..”
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As someone who has been the sole financial provider in a relationship, regardless of the other person and how they are, that stress can break a relationship on its own.
wow you learnt what its like to be the average man
@@lol_youre_mad funny seeing women complain about being the provider when no real man complained about providing. it was only when woman wanted to provide to they start complaining about providing🤣 if you want traditional treatment, be a traditional woman
@@rando6192 literally what are you talking about….
1. I have heard many men complain about being the sole provider especially if they aren’t financially where they want to be yet
2. I didn’t specify gender in my original comment. It was a general statement saying that financial stress alone can break a relationship on its own, doesn’t matter how great your partner is
3. I date for love which is the exact reason I ended up as the sole provider when I was too young to be trying to do that anyways. You shouldn’t do that.. male or female.
Now what’s your problem.
@@ninajena4214 when i was broke my girl provided for me and even invested in me, she never complained and she did that for years as a lash technician. now she doesnt work a day again, became a wife, and lives in a home thats provided for, drives an amg and manages my business portfolio. She provided until i could provide for her
@@ninajena4214 so what your saying is no one should be a sole provider, male or female. so it should be 50/50 right? thats cool you can live like that but judging by your comments and your deleted one😉 i can tell that 50/50 gonna become a real issue for you soon
Are they NOT embarrassed!?!?! No other cultures are having this conversation but Black people are ALWAYS talking about this. LOL
@@SpacemanBruceyea. A Korean househusband different culture different expectations different life. Tell me what black man in North America gonna proudly tell his boys I’m a house husband. Cause the lazy crusty fucks who “love” you and pay the light bill barely is known to be out here cooking cleaning and unconditionally loving? Really? Let’s not be insincere here it’s ridiculous.
its something that is an aspect of modernity in the west and the current culture that will become more relevant as time goes on as the pay disparity and education disparity increases in the future generations, in denmark its not uncommon to have men handle the kids, the black culture is not like this currently
We are supposed to talk about this … there’s nothing wrong with having conversations about it. Some people shouldn’t have them because they aren’t prepared.
@@SpacemanBrucespeaking of Koreans I ran into a RUclips short which claimed that there aren’t much Koreans babies being born. The Korean women in the comment section were listing misogyny and low income as a reason why. This made me gasp! I hadn’t realize other women from other cultures are going through this too 😮
And let's be specific, Black people in America at that. My family is from Jamaica and so is my man and whenever I've had conversations with them about relationships the sentiment is always that a man should be a provider. My boyfriend said he's not worried about what I have as long as he has it we're good. These "women need to settle" conversations aren't common for all Black people this is just a talking point in America.
Honestly just talk to your partner about what’s good for the relationship. If it works it works, but if it doesn’t work find a solution or break up.
This is honestly how it usually goes🤷🏽♀️ I think because it’s a debate, they’re gonna actually explain why they feel what they feel about the situation
Like it’s really not that hard🤦🏾♂️
Bingo!
If she's making more and all he can pay is the light bill, no level of negotiation or understanding will make that work.
@@teresam5199 which is where I think the break up part will come in.
DEE gone cook everytime 😭😭
Them complaining about the system where men have to work and women don’t …. WHO INVENTED THAT SYSTEM? Be mad at yourself, yo daddy, yo friend, yo grandpa
THANK YOU‼‼
White men at the top made that system goofy not all men😂😂😂😂
@@unbrokensmoke4380 the patriarchy exists everywhere even within our communities even before Colonialism don’t use the yt man now as a scapegoat. Regardless they benefit from the system as men and here they are crying and whining without making any points without showing any statistics without referencing anything just a bunch of ugly bums
@@unbrokensmoke4380and who follows that system? his father, his grandpa, etc, it’s all passed down . no one said all men “goofy”
@@JUS2324 don't matter goofy women say it all the time
My mom married a bum dude who doesn’t work, doesn’t clean, and doesn’t cook and I have every right to call him a bum. I was working three jobs while going to school paying my bills and my mom bills and sending money to my siblings and I paid for my siblings stuff as well and now I said forget that so now I’m going to the Army to live my own life.
same besides da army part but i jus use it to motivate me to get myself straight enough to take care of my moms on my own keep strivin my boy
Yes! So happy for you!Focus on your peace and happiness and don't feel bad about it either! With a man in the house you shouldn't have to do all that it's not right! I been there done that!
Yeah my mom will always be my mom until I don’t exist even after that she is and I will always do what I can for her but she should have picked a better husband in my opinion someone who can stand with her not beyond her
GOOD FOR YOU. You are NOT their parents. I hope your army life works out. God knows if you didn’t you’d still be supporting your entire family by yourself when your parents, especially that man is fully capable of supporting his family. So many black women are in situations like this I refuse to be a part of it. Your mom is your mom and that will never change but also don’t let that get in the way of right and wrong. She made her choice at the end of the day and you didn’t ask to be in that situation so don’t ever feel like you are obligated to. I regularly had to remind my mother that she was not responsible for her brothers who refused to do anything productive in their lives and yet she still acted like she was their mother and was working herself to the bone for these grown ass men. I made it clear that when I am able, I am leaving and not looking back. Continue breaking the cycle ladies
Thank you for serving. All the Best!!!!
Y'all we need a show called That's so Dee, because her psychic powers grow every day. "That's So dee, it the bullshit she can see"😂😂😂😂😂😂
Still gas lighting ha 😆🤣😂 y’all don’t learn
@Jerzey3 how is it gaslighting???
@@Jerzey3do you even know the definition of gaslighting?? Lmao
🎶That's soo deeeEEee🎶
Dee as a gay man you are SO f’n right. I have argued with my male friends for YEARS about this. If women are greedy, then men are vain in what they seek. Women are honest about it, men act like victims and it drives me CRAZY. I also use the twilight zone reference all the time.
I just don't bother bringing up these topics. You have to remember many people don't have morals and many people don't take accountability. So when you combine those two type of people, you will never get a sane argument for most general people. That's why just leave it alone, let them cry about their struggles while us sane people will find love because we live and understand the truth
@@bunnyrabiI’m so glad you said this. It resonates with me, truly. Especially the first part. I’m starting to do the same. Move in silence. Don’t even bother when they bring these topics up. When they say shit to get your reaction, say “ok” and keep it pushing. Don’t ignore what they say either. But just don’t engage. They 100% mean that shit so don’t believe the sweet nothings they tell you when it comes time that they want to get in your pants and eventually leech off of you.
What's the correlation between greedy women and vain men?
@@TasteMyRainb0w That men are not these innocent fawns in the woods they pretend to be, they will never date women that they feel are less attractive then them, so if women are greedy men are vain. Not sure your confusion.
@@TasteMyRainb0wwomen are considered greedy for wanting a man for money, however men are considered vain for wanting only the most beautiful women
It’s arrogant that people are always trying to tell women what their standards should be. How are you going to tell me where I should be investing my energy? I determine who receives my emotional and mental labor, loyalty, support, and body. It’s not my job to make sure that men at all levels can have a romantic relationship.
Nobody has to accept or do anything they don’t want to at the end of the day. 🤷🏾♂️
Funny thing is you can’t tell these men about who they choose to date or else they go mad.
@@ca678.4I mean that’s all I ever see women do on twitter and insta
I'm ten minutes in and i just love when Dee gets passionate about a topic it's so fun to see but also a teachable moment
Say no to struggle love
lol people that struggle will end up togheter it wil alway happen
Men who get mad at women that DON’T want to date them… is wild. Too many fish in the sea. Stop going for women that aren’t in your lane and what YOU want… simply date down. It’s a simple concept really.
Is it dating down to take what likes you?
in your lane is such a stupid thing to say lol
@@rochekalifa2074 Thats fine. That’s just your prerogative then. Definitely feel free to disagree with me, but I said what I said & I’m not going to change what I said either.
@KITTIMIN honestly i agree you shouldn't get mad that someone dont want you it wasnt meant to be thats fine. But! Alot of women who are in your lane looks wise also go for higher which is why average men are having a hard time. Guys that are above her league are using her as an ego boost and sneaky link while guys who want to bring stability gets ignored. Thats the issue
So the anger more so comes from the how can you look down on me if we are the same league. But thats life
Maybe I'm confused, but why does he want women that aren't interested in dating down to date down? Wouldn't it be easier to find a woman that wants to date down versus trying to convince people that don't want to date down?
Nobody wants to date down. Seems like a ridiculous thing say. You are right though. I think it’s crazy to tell woman to lower their standards over and over again. You just allow the ones with ridiculous wants to get them or not. It’s as simple as that.
However, Most black woman are in the same socioeconomic status as most black men. There aren’t hordes of black woman making more money then men. Black woman make $30K on average. There aren’t a ton of these “boss bitches” despite what social media would tell you.
@@kikialeaki1850bro didn't read at all💀
Exactly, this is going too lead to resentment as well! These women never want too date these type of men in the first place.
@@kikialeaki1850when exactly did I say that?
@@kikialeaki1850your getting upset for no reason 😂😂😂. All I said was it's pretty stupid to try and convince women that don't want to date down to date down. Is dating down politically incorrect now? You want me to say significant others that make less? I don't know why you assume that I want Men to date down. If men don't wanna date down then why should they have to. That's my whole point you might as well find people that want to date down instead of trying to convince people that don't want to. You put words into my mouth because you got triggered.
This reaction was fucking everything, I love when Dee gathers 😅
ain't no amount of love a man or woman could offer me that would make me forget or let them slide with not paying bills, bro 😂 love me enough to help pay our expenses.
Nobody is arguing that tho. It was if a woman makes more money than the man
@@brandond1947 sure. and that's fine, but we're talking within the perimeters that tyler perry set, which essentially was- love should take precedence over finances in a relationship. 'if you really love that man so much, how much he makes or contributes shouldn't matter to a woman, as long as they're tight and in love', right? which i think is bogus. if you really love someone, you wouldn't leave that person shouldering all the financial responsibilities. nor would you have them taking care of / babying your ass.
@@nunyuh7102taking care of them AND their kids too. In the traditional relationships these men would float over is that the woman would do the cleaning and cooking and raising the kids but I can bet 100% the men who Tyler perry is telling black women to support would NEVER do that shit 😂 all of it will still lie on the black woman. Black women, PLEASEEE don’t fall for the tricks
LMFAOOOOOOO “you fucking lost me Madea” dee I fell tFuck out
I saw the MOMENT he lost Dee in what he was saying 😂😂😂 “if all he can pay is the light bill…” I was CACKLING
I would never advise women or men to fully take care of someone at all times. I am a gay man so it’s different for me, but even in my relationships I don’t feel comfortable being fully taken care or fully taking care of anybody. I would never understand why would a GROWN ADULT want to be fully taken care of and do nothing while your partner(male or female) is out there working!!! It is the most inconsiderate shit ever to me.
exactly! it’s just inconsiderate to think someone should take care of you as a grown adult.
Facts. NEVER be at the full mercy of someone else! Nothing but trouble.
@@thalitha134 hopefully everything works out for her. She needs to ask for help, close mouths don’t get fed.
Exactly. Even my mother always told me never to marry a woman who doesn't wanna work. Cuz everything is expensive and it'll be too much for just me to do all alone. Both my parents worked and payed bills too
@brownjaded when it comes to looks, I just need to be attracted to her natural self. And ratings can differ from person to person. I might consider someone an 8, while another person might see her as a 5.
What I’m learning from this repetitive ass convo we, the black community, have once a month is that we don’t have to do what anybody says. Everybody should date who they want to date and conduct their relationship as they choose. I ain’t gotta do shit I don’t want to do.
Once a month, what are you talking about?
@@what7530are you on twitter? Black people twitter have conversations like these every month if not every WEEK.
@@ca678.4he doesn’t have to be on Twitter some people just prefer to be off social media. can’t really blame em for that.
Thank you so much for addressing this video. I had to stop watching after the first three seconds. These are the same people who asked why are black women masculine and yet expect expect them to be take on the “masculine” role .
Trye in America BW are masculine and 82% are overweight mostly obese. They're getting worse Black babies in Houston are born with syphilis.
THE NEGRO PROJECT
@@Exodus26.13Pi BW are of course not masculine - the lowest performing males call masculine: taking care of yourself, having a career, not being docile or a doormat, and not being afraid to voice and value your own opinion. That's not masculine that's called intelligence, responsible and self-respect. And not so coincidentally, these are traits many BM lack, so it's not surprising that you'd call that masculine, because you don't have the faintest idea what it is.
So you're saying that women should be submitting to men and doing as she's told, taking a feminine role?
Yeah it’s pretty much always been expected that men who do the bare minimum deserve all the love and adoration that he can get from a woman. Meanwhile, women have to be everything and beyond to even be seen as worthy of consideration. That’s why Kevin Samuels and Andrew Tate had such large reaches
Do you know the message that Kevin and Andrew sent to bum dudes ?
Wtf are you even talking about. He never said be with a man thats giving you the bare minimum. He said just because you may make more than a man whos still giving you all the things you need out of a partner doesn't mean you should overlook him simply cause his check isn't as big as yours.
@@mekk96 exactly but this is what men have been dealing with for decades. The financial burdens of society when it comes to relationships. We fought for woman to have to have the same burden and rights and somehow now its a problem. This is just how the society functions
notice how all the replies are boys disagreeing with you. it’s sad. you are right don’t listen to them niggas
@@Sf-shhthank you for providing “exhibit A”
A man that is not financially stable and not well off in his career is usually an unhappy man! Leave that man alone until he is financially comfortable and stable!
Facts, that's because society clearly says you are less than as a man with no money
Wait that’s true ??!?💀I don’t think so lemme see some stats
@@bunnyrabiDING! DING! DING!
Can't be mad if he doesn't want you after he makes it though, or if he cheats on you. A wealthy man has too many options to be loyal to you.
I need more than love & support, I need half of these bills taken care of.
yeah i agree thats how my parents do things and it works so ill be doing the samething
Not half tbh, All*
Men and women have their roles to play, a man should protect and provide for his family, economic situation of society does not matter to the degree that people think it does. If you cant afford to pay all the bills as a man you should not be married, just because marriage is there doesn’t mean everyone should deserve to have one. If a woman is paying all the bills and her man is a house husband, she will literally lose respect and sexual attraction to him, it’s been observed by many studies and all but 100% confirmed as an eventuality, maybe your woman will not be like the VAST majority, and you will get that unicorn who doesn’t mind working all the time and allowing you to be home and cook and clean and raise the kids, but it’s definitely a rare mentality. All this confusion and gender war stuff is happening because the genders are battling over their roles and the roles have now become ill defined. When people don’t know what they should be doing they tend to start feeling lost and irritable.
True, no one should settle for a bum in a relationship. Both parties have to play their part unless you're dating a millionaire or billionaire
@@fjnemomen have been dating down for centuries. When a woman earns more it's supposed to be this groundbreaking controversy.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhwhen have men been dating down? ever?
Dee: I’m not going to attack this man personally
Also Dee: Oh we know what you’re looking for.
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Idk why they tryna make it seem like there black women don’t have money bc there are a LOT of black women who are financially stable/successful… and they calling that ladies argument dumb bc they know she read Tyler Perry and them…
Where did you even pull that? They are saying black women in general make less than black men and are in more debt.
@@dragobender2459his made up statistics.. did u even watch the video?
@@dragobender2459 all debt is not bad. If you improve your financial literacy, you'll come to understand the concept of "other people's money". Try working on that.
@@bluebear9228 exactly😹
Yeah… misogyny runs VERY deep in this society in all areas and unfortunately it’s not easily reversible.
Misandry as well
@@Dev1cted…
womp womp
I think the confusion is with people thinking the “modern woman” wants a “traditional man” We don’t, that’s obvious, but we also don’t want a man that is okay with being entirely provided for (unless the woman is in the top 10%). Most modern women want a man that’s at least on her level or can pull his own weight from the jump. We are not switching sides with men, women are just catching up with men financially in this generation. Would love to double the money up when we get together, not have to divide what I have in half to provide for another adult 😂 only people I’m willing to do that for is my future children.
Dee is honestly right. As a person! If you are ok with your partner doing all the hard work, then you as a person need to self reflect.....
Idk y ppl don’t encourage men to be more ambitious, career driven, invest in the right things, take care of the home first, etc.
Why is it always Black women come down to meet them where they at?And even bw choose down they still get blamed for choosing wrong. I’m not really a fan of Playback vids in general. Their takes r very podcast red pill ignorant incel bias insecure takes
What kind of drugs are you on?!? Men are literally expected to have their shit together before being in a serious relationship. The whole point of their video is that women have fought to reach the level of money and success a lot of men have. And guess what? When you are at the level, your options are limited. Men have literally been “dating down” for decades and understand the responsibility that comes with being the breadwinner. Women are the only ones complaining. When do you hear a dude complain about “dating down” when trying to find a wife?
Well I do agree that encouraging is very important but I don’t necessarily agree black women must come down to meet them. Because the reality is the standards that most women do have is not realistic the type of money some of these women want men to have they don’t even have it’s very small percentage of men that make that money. And a even smaller percentage of women who make that type of money. Tyler used a over exaggerated example maybe 5x more for him is realistic lol but not the average man or woman. And men have always been taught to get a job pay bills and take care of the family well I have you have to be a provider protector and lover. Men are actually taught to prepare for a relationship in the future even though some men may want to be single the end goal we are taught is always marriage or what a women thinks. I was always taught about making sure my credit is good cause no woman wants a man with bad credit and if you have s family that’s important make sure you making enough to provide I was even taught at a teen age with dating if you can’t pay you shouldn’t date as a teen like you can’t even get a job until your like 17 in certain states 🤣 men are least taught money matters.
But I’m just guessing that most men are getting out of that mentality becuase there are some standards that we are required to meet but are partners don’t have to meet certain standards. I’ve said it before women want a traditional man but not a traditional relationship. So while men have to be nothing but traditional women can kinda decide if they want to be housewives or work and even if you make more money you shouldn’t have to contribute cause you know the saying “mine money is mine and his money is mine” 🤣
Also I don’t think if a man makes less doesn’t mean his less ambitious his career path may not be the most paying and yours may pay more maybe he wants to be a chef and you want to be a doctor your clearly going to make more then him but does that make him less ambitious? I feel these standards are coming from money you make less money somehow your less ambitious.
And I do definitely agree men do need to be taugh to invest in the right things and also learn how to be a help around the house I feel a relationship is a team you pick up where he lacks and he picks up where you lack if he lost his job and you are working then he needs to do things around the house get up and get the kids ready cook clean organize bills run errands things like that and vice versa I don’t think it makes him less of a man to do laundry 🤣 I hope everyone does their laundry. But also coming from a black man we are taught money credit proved protect but we are never given the right sources I don’t know nothing about shares or the stock I didn’t know about credit in depth until I did my own learning but ofc my parents weren’t taugh those things so their credit is uh….. not so good my credit is good but that’s becuase I did my own research my parents didn’t at young ages. I’m so sorry for the short book I didn’t know how much I hat typed until I looked over it 🤣
Men get encouraged to do better everyday? It’s seems like whenever we bring this topic on women y’all point the finger back at us
@@Figgs101ok bruh
@@bluebear9228 Men get shamed all the time for not doing the things we supposed to do? Wat are u saying
Nah my sister definitely dated a bum, he just sat in her apartment and got drunk all day. I used to get on her ass everyday until she finally woke up and left him. So Lo and Agent missed wit this one.
That type of situation isn't what Tyler nor Playback were talking about though so...
But who's fault is that 🤔
@@DarkManX16agreed! So to your logic, women are "choosing better" by not partnering with men who can only pay a light bill. Those men are poor choices.
@@Sephiroso. Facts. Women are really clueless. Tyler Perry never said to date a bum
It’s actually funny 😂 Agent is Ethiopian and his experience isn’t the same as African Americans. I’m in his community, the men are expected to provide just like other African communities and immigrant communities. He hangs around too many AA men that have Tyler’s Perry mentality to be preaching what he is saying. I guarantee he wouldn’t be able to get an Ethiopian women with this mentality. Hmm
AA women aren’t traditional so why should men be traditional??
What shocked me was when he said most other parts of the world money is not the most important value. When in many African, Asian and Arab cultures men literally have to pay a dowry💀. I don’t like when he makes reference to African topics cause he’s not an accurate representation at all.
@@ezekieltete6584 you have it backwards
@@teresam5199 It's not backwards. BM have no issues with women of other races, but BW constantly want to fight with them, which is them being masculine. BW are the issue here.
One day dee’s gonna violate low
I genuinely thought TODAY was gonna be the day but apparently God was on his side..... today. lol
Yeah it’s coming one day 😅
He don't gaf 😂
That part right at the end: "mentally stable" is the best part of the video.
my mom was in this situation with my dad. Then she was in it again when my step dad got fired from his job. Shit is not fun being a kid and seeing this shit go down. One of the main reasons why I want to do better for myself. I grew up around lazy deadbeats that depended on women while they sit on the game all day. Some of my cousins that grew up around this behavior ended up like that. They rather think about getting hoes instead of taking care of their kids and focusing on their goals in life. My cousin got mad when I told him that he talks about hoes a lot more than he talks about his kids. I don't care he needed to hear it from another man since the dude he be hanging around could careless
I’m so sorry you had to experience that! I come from a similar household, I feel your pain- trust ❤ You’re a real one for that! Most men don’t call out their partners! He got mad because he knew it was true😂 Wishing you much success in life, sir!!
i need agent to react to this lol. actually i need dee and agent on a podcast LMAO
I WANNA SEE THAT
You're so correct. You never see a handsome rich guy with a someone busted. NEVER.
That's because they have money.
I've seen plenty of niggas making bank dating & marrying some the most below average looking women ever. The relationships in my family, friend group & last relationship is also living proof of this.
The majority of guys are with women that look worse than them tbh.
I enjoy Dee reaction to PlayBack since I like both of them and hearing both sides of a issue about these topics definitely enlightens me and make me look differently on every side. Keep ‘em up Dee
Dee was cooking todayyy🔥
lmfaoo naw dee, low & agent all gotta talk one day. i needdd to hear dat convo cus shit would be great tbh
i just realized this is coming from a billionaire trying to give a "money isnt everything" approach on the topic; A man pulling what weight he can in a household where the woman is making more is ok, BUT THESE WOMEN DONT WANT FREELOADERS IN THEIR HOUSE, MR. PERRY!!
They must practice selective listening bc I don’t understand why they are not getting the point lol. Ladies and gentleman this is a prime example of people who are just trying to stir up controversy. Bottom line, be able to take care of yourself then seek whatever it is you are looking for and hopefully it works out for ya
I was with Tyler until I wasn't. As a man I have to say a man should be able to take care of himself. I'm not going to advocate for women or men to get with someone that's going to make them resentful. Love should be important in relationships. But at the same time communication is key. What I just watched was two men only put one side of issue out there and ignore the other side. This only added fuel to the fire and no true solutions provided. Dee keep being real because it's so many talking out the side of their mouths. Dee you called it from the beginning and they never touched on it. This is why I fucks with you because you're real and you don't care what anyone thinks and you shouldn't.
That second woman ACTUALLY needs a podcast speaking non stop facts, But dee raising the number of pounds each time is sending me "400,500,700 POUND 2 WOMAN"
21:02 does he notice that most women live this lifestyle that he is describing? I know for a fact that my OBGYN mother still has to come home after calls and after her 9 - 5 shifts and be mother, cook, maid, etc. He has the audacity to say that is mind blowing but most modern women who have a career has to live like this. All this with her husband (my father) in the house. Granted he is a dentist, but he gets to come home, go back out, hang with his friends, do whatever he wants to do, then come home and put his feet up and expects his wife to have a nice hot meal ready for him. He saying that lifestyle doesn't exist? Wrong. It just doesn't exist for men. Andthis is the exact thing that woman are fed up with. How do you want a 50/50 relationship and you aren't willing to put that 50 in anything other than cash?
And the Playback guys have always been clowns
Almost every video she reacts to on them is siding with them what are you on about fanboy ?
@@skrellb9659 my opinion is what I’m on about, did I say anything about Dee’s reactions to them?
you sound like a clown and just d riding bruh they made valid point stop being emotional lol @@dgchvz
Dee told NO LIES 💯
Nobody should be expected to look after you financially, regardless of if the woman is looking after the man or if the man is looking after the woman. But because for some reason it's alot more acceptable for a man to carry a woman financially, I think that IF i was one of the people who supported that, it would only be fair for a woman to be able to do the same if she wants to.
PREACH!!! People are such hypocrites with this situation. Don't talk shit about a man that's being taken care of financially by his woman if you wouldn't do the same to a woman being taken care of financially by her man.
👍🏽👍🏽
@@elijahmims1928SMART MEN HERE THANK YOU!
I agree! Whatever works best for the couple! To answer your question though in regards to why is it more socially acceptable for a man to take care of a woman because, that’s how patriarchy was set up🤷🏾♀️ women weren’t able to even have their own debit cards 70 years ago- why? Laws created by men 😂. Silly, huh?
Now that isn’t a thing anymore, some women who are in 50/50 relationships find themselves doing most of the caregiving, household chores, and paying 50% of the bills. That’s why many women are opting for traditional relationships
I personally believe that women who choose traditional relationships should continue to have their independence and own money on the side because men used to be able to get away with abusing women (domestic violence was socially acceptable not even a century ago) due to them having to be dependent on them. If that is the route you choose- move smart!
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SIS you are spitting!
Pls keep preaching
I think what playback was talking about in the end is that they’re all responding to the money part with the looks scenario but love is being excluded out of it completely. Like yes men are visual creatures but you can’t group everyone into the same category, not all men get with women only for looks. I mean most people as human being me want partners that look good but there are other criteria. The example Tyler Perry used was extreme and I think it’s taking away from the point he was actually trying to make (if he has use a less extreme example I don’t think the outrage would have be as bad). It’s just unfortunate that the example he used is taking away from the actual point. When 2 people who get into a relationship with ACTUAL love ( not superficial stuff like looks and money), it’s doesn’t matter who makes more money, with true love it’s more likely that y’all can grow together no matter the financial situation or circumstance.
I just watched the end of your video💀 and I’m sorry Dee but a man who truly loved you wouldn’t be hating on your success like that, I’m glad you figured that out. This why kept mentioning “true love”, that’s really hard to find and of course so whatever works best for you
It took a while to scroll and find someone that I agree with. He spoke poorly point his point was about finding that love and not disregarding it because of money. I am sure if he flipped it he would be saying fellas stop looking at just the looks find the love. That is all I believe he was saying.
@@1984hacked lol same here, I was looking for a reasonable response l. But yeah the main point was that getting into a relationship ONLY for superficial reasons like looks and money isn’t the way to go. You can have your standards, but the end goal is to find someone who truly loves you and that means you can compromise to a certain extent regardless of the gender
I just think ppl are optimistic when it comes to finding love so if you believe you can find love with multiple ppl you’re gonna try to get find the one that’s financially stable or looks good. There’s no need to settle for just love when there’s so many opportunities especially with social media
Money and what it demonstrates about the nature, quality and character of the successful person, is far from superficial
Exactly!! Stop telling women to lower their standards
These niggas was pissin Dee tf off 😂😂😂😂😂 I feel her though. I’m lesbian so ima be quiet n stay outta straight/bi ppl business lol
Right like she spitting but It don’t have anything to do with me! 😂
FRR💀
They keep bringing up about how women are now realising the struggles men have been going through for generations but aren't acknowleding women weren't legally allowed to work and given the same rights as men for generations (not even getting into how this was exacerbated for black woman). The public education system needs an overhaul and we obviously need to start emphasizing empathy in school curriculumn. Mfs out here using their mouths RECKLESSLY!!!
Right cause woman weren't working in homes the hell is you talking bout. Women still work back then.
@@JerseyBoy489 Wtf are you talking about. I'm talking about paid positions 😭. No one ever said that maintaing a home wasn't work.
6:47 has me laughing my ass off because I'm still in this situation watching my mom take care of everything mean while my BIRTH father that I dont even want here doesnt even pay a bill the only thing he does is drive us around he is literally just an extra mouth to feed and I still dont under stand why she haven't dropped this guy yet.
Probably suffering depression. Take him to a therapist
@@blist14ant I cant even get a therapist what makes you think he can
@@blist14ant who will pay? A woman? You are mad
@@Uke2405 I’m lucky enough if my mom even has enough for dinner today let alone something like that 💀
@@blist14ant The woman is the one dealing with his bum ass and you pity the bum??? GTFO
They're being historically ignorant at this point. When they stated "men have to deal w/ this for generations." Just because it happen that way doesn't mean it was women choice. Men made the rules and set the standards for life. Women didn't have rights! Women couldn't work and if they did.. it was minimum wage or less. So they were condition to find a provider for their financial stability. Since they couldn't have money or open a banking account. And now that they got a little of something today... They still don't need support!?
This is what I’m talking about with the extremes of both sides
I actually see a ton of guys with women who are lower than them in looks but they are a happy couple (Ironic, because most women only go for guys who look better than them)... Men settle just as much as women, if not more tbh.
Also, it should be noted that a woman losing weight is significantly easier than a man becoming rich. The two are not comparable.
Question: where is Tyler Perry’s wife? He wants to give advice about women financially supporting their men but not one time you see Tyler with a woman. Now I understand that people like living private lives but we’ve known him for this long and not one we ever hear that he is married, dating, or even taking a woman out to dinner. I think if you aren’t in that situation then you shouldn’t give advice
I could do 50/50 because its hard out here and life is expensive but I'll be damned if I take care of a grown ass man.
Don't do 50/50 with a male - he's getting way more value from you as a woman than 50. He should pay 90+. 50/50 is for a female roommate.
Also given the fact that statistically speaking, women who are the breadwinners still are expected to take care of the household chores and childcare duties.
My only point is it’s crazy that we as a culture are having financial dynamic conversations while we’re all in a recession ‼️🤯
Beyond that I love passionate Dee, she was cooking !! ❤️‼️🤣
This lady is right. They never tell males this and for the most part you never see blk males with money reach down and take blk women with them. They will get a preference but we are always expected to help elevate them. No ma’am 🙅🏽♀️
The preferences are welcome to them.
@@teresam5199 they sure can and everything that comes with them lol
Agent and Low need to go toe to toe with women like Dee who aren’t gonna minimize themselves to appease their ego and call them out. Cause they had A LOT of those on peer to peer lol.
I honestly think most men wouldn’t even feel comfortable letting their woman be the sole provider. You just wouldn’t feel like a man at that point. As a man I wouldn’t even get into a relationship unless I knew I had my stuff together and I could at least take care of myself and everything I need.
Most black men would though. They're defending it
@@aquarius-woman5364 To be fair I don’t think that’s most black men that are defending it tho. That’s just the minority we see that are defending it.
I stopped at 9:00 for a second just to say Dee fukn cooked whew chile i was just snapping my fingers and nodding with the stank face she was spitting so much damn heat
Money is everything in a relationship. I’ve learned this from every group of women except blk women. Yes I value money over everything in a relationship you gotta have it.
It's kinda sad that you think that. I definitely wish you well on finding happiness even though i think it'll be a rough journey given that mindset.
@@Sephiroso.I’m not looking for someone else to make me happy. Sad or not feelings won’t pay for anything in this country.
@@mekalashay7111 I merely wished you yourself find happiness, wasn't saying i hope you find someone else to make you happy.
Also, i hope you come to realize the options that are available when it comes to money, and countries. Do keep in mind, if you put money as your number one focus, you will spend your life wasting it away doing things you don't want to go on simply living. That isn't conducive to living a happy life.
Statistically speaking, marriages where the wife makes more than the husband are 50% more likely to get divorced. The reason for that is because it's going against natural order, and I'm going to stand on that till the day I die. I will GLADLY stick to my list, Tyler Fairy. Thanks. 😊
Very true. Ultimately, even if the woman is "okay" with that (which she shouldn't be), the marriage will not last. It WILL fail. Then the woman may end up paying him alimony! No way 🚫
Women not marrying as virgins has a higher rate of divorce, because it's against the natural order. But I bet you have no issue with that...
If Dee never posted these Playback (aka PlayStupid) reactions, I would never know they existed. I'm not watchin 2 dudes deflect questions with random statistics for 10-20mins. Not unless Dee commentin on it. They mad annoying. They over here with their opinion but get weird when other people got somethin to say. Like you don't have to be right all the time😭
The chubby one idk who his name is getting on my nerves I used to like them but they slow some damn times they so damn defensive…
So women care about looks just like men. Interesting...
Why is it that only black women have to settle? That’s the goal for other races of women to get A man to take care of them. But black woman have to sell themselves short, get out of here Tyler👋🏽. Dee preaching today 😂🙌🏾. Black women do need to step outside of their comfort zone and date men of different races and cultures because it’s other men out here ladies. But make sure you heal your mental and have an open mind first before you date other races and cultures.💛🌻
All this dating confusion is coming from ill defined gender roles. A man needs to shut up and take care of his god damn business and pay the bills and do his nature given role as a protector. And women need to shut up and do their nature given role as a nurturer and caretaker, this gender war stuff is so infuriating, if people just shut up and do what needs to be done more, there would not be so much damn confusion smdh
.....this reminds me why i didnt like listening to them before. They arent willing to hear both sides
I think its different if the man refuses to better himself to provide more. I would then call him lazy. For men who are disabled, or have debts, child support, etc, or struggling, provide in other ways. Helping around the house, cleaning, cooking, yard work, errands, etc. This is meant to be temporary unless you are disabled, you do what you are able to.
No it’s not meant to be temporary. Men who are down bad with debt and other problems are rarely men who help around the house, often for the same reasons they’re in financial trouble to start with.
No he said that the man has other talent
some great facts and knowledge coming from Dee & the melanin Queen with the black blouse and locs. i'm here for all of it.
You know the crazy part... they gon want a woman to not only take care of a man financially but take responsibility of his emotional health and expect zero emasculation in the process of being his new step mother
YASSSS GET THEM TOGETHER SIS 💕 💞
I feel ya Dee..but unfortunately they’ve also engineered society to the point where no one knows their roles anymore…
Everyone knows their role except the bm
@@Uke2405 BM and BW
I call bs. Just because women are getting in the workforce dosent mean people dont "know their roles"
@@misspyro4618 I’m talking about in regards to relationships..some know their roles others don’t
I mean that was the goal of slavery in the west to mess up black people to this point. Too many black men are bums, and too many black women are ignoring their kids to take care of these bums lol. Our people can't stand up until the black men come together, stop saying stupid shit, and actually take care of their black women
i love when dee rants truley my favorite reaction channel😂😂😂
Because of those BET Shows y’all must’ve forgot that Tyler Perry is a Christian 😭😭 he even talk like this during the madea plays 😭
I don't even know why this is a conversation. Women become very bitter when they have to spend money on anyone besides themselves. They aren't built to provide lol.
Man I love Dee she’s absolutely the most real and authentic RUclipsr 🩷🩷😊
These are usually just conversations of men being blown away by the fact that women like different qualities in men than men like in women. There are some things you just have to accept. Idc how many think pieces we write on the unfair advantages of pretty privilege, gorgeous women are still getting picked first 🤷🏾♀️
You literally proved men and women are different which they are.
Damn Dee going off... she keeps it 💯💪🏿
I love when Dee starts yelling 😂
I'm convinced them mfs have selective hearing cause wtf are they talking bout. This new broke mommy issues mentality is wild to me
Did Tyler perry mention once about being broke? I dunno man, if a guy makes a solid salary and the woman makes way more than him and takes care of most of the bills then whats the issue? Cause more time its the other way round, paying for the light bill ok that is a stretch but thats only if she is way above her tax bracket. When men take care of women its 2nd nature but when women take of men its either were broke or we want our partner to be our mother smh. All in all whatever people do in their relationship is the choices they made and stick to it I hope.
Hearing both sides between playback and Dee was interesting
4:10 I ain't gon lie.... As a man, Dee kinda got a point there
I mean logically that does make sense lol
Go AWFFFF Dee lmaooo it was up with this topic and Dee all 30mins 😭🤣🤣
I don't think they are "pretending" in this instance. This is one of those instances when some men can't comprehend the roles reverse because it's not in their genetic makeup. They just can't fathom it. It's so sad because MOST men did grow up watching their mothers take care of everything (sometimes in addition to bringing home money too), and watched daddy do the BARE MINIMUM (work and bring home money) and that's what they aspire to be. Men (not all) are the head, yet they do the LEAST. Now that the roles aren't rolling, there's a glitch in the matrix. Nobody should aspire for struggle love (not just financially, but mentally and emotionally also). Let's take the shackles off.
This was a crazy video omg the bar is in hell 😂
Jasmine and Dee Shanell in One video, I-Fucking-CONIC
Dee spoke nothing but truth!! 👏🏾❤️
No she didn't
Its much harder to build the financial freedom women expect than it is to find a beautiful/physically attractive women to meet his “shallow Desires” even if he’s broke. I think Tyler’s only point is it shouldn’t matter who the bread winner is.. exaggerated example being even if he could only pay the light bill.. The Love,honor, respect is what should matter over all. Mind you I believe in providing as a man I just think black men/women have been so conditioned to be at odds on financial responsibility its annoying to even unpack these conversations fr. I understand what Dee is saying but I think she along with most women only hear the opposite of what has been taught when assessing a real man.
I always skip the reactions with these 2 because no shade, but they are dumb as hell all the time, but I stuck for this one because the passion in Dee's statement had me feeling lit with her. Over here agreeing and talking to the monitor like she can hear me lol
He knows Oprah. Her man is broke compared to her and HE has money.
Like you said it's not the damn same when it comes to the average person.
He's out of touch.
I need you to do a video with them Dee Fr lol cuz they do be bringing up random ass statistics in videos 😂
I dont participate in these gender wars because i truly love my people and i believe its one big psyop to put the final nail in the black community and unfortunately its working insanely well.
If you truly loved your people, you would fix the generational issues going on within your community
I'm being genuine here, but WHAT?! While racism is a huge issue, a huge conspiracy makes no sense... not when a slight majority of white people are still on the side of good, and against hate. Granted, it's only a simple majority... but still a majority. The racist scumbags are still in the minority. Also, if you're paying attention, you'll notice this happening to both black and white. And THAT - now that I think about it - is the actual curious part. It just seems to be an issue with both of our people, and seems limited to only English-speaking Western countries/cultures. But the point is, it's happening to black and white people... the so-called "gender wars". But it may be different battles. Some of the white battles overlap, like this b.s. mentioned her. But among white people there is also the conservative religious bxllshxt, too. Maybe that's also going on with black people too. The sick expectation of women to be trad wives. The return of the good, traditional, 1950s Christian housewife. You see it all the time from from people like Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson.
It is, but they love their own destruction. Black people are DONE!
@@lilhonnihow does one person or even one group of people fix generational programming done be an entire country targeted to one group?
@@S6Ryujin this is just a little suggestion,
Transfer wealth to Black families
End housing segregation
Invest in education for Black students
Cut child poverty
Change can be made if the community sticks together and votes for the right person that’s going to end generational trauma within the black community
Not saying that I agree with his viewpoint, this is just for clarification lol but actually Tyler Perry movies are consistent with his view point: diary of a mad black woman, the family that prays, madeas family reunion etc. The women leave abusive rich guys and go get with men who drive buses, and work in construction. So it’s not surprising that TP would say this stuff now.
Also driving buses and working in construction are good paying jobs, they’re not broke but I guess the perception in the movie is that the women lowered their financial standard. Again this is just for clarification don’t come at me too hard, I have no dog in this fight 😂
you’re right, but those women are still with men that aren’t bums. so what he said doesn’t align with his movies. he gave an extreme example about a woman having to take care of a bum
@@kpoverloaddd I understand that but in the family that preys he writes Sanaa Lathan’s character disrespecting her husband saying that she feels she has to support him financially and how she had to go get with a real man “Cartwright”. I’m just saying these views are sprinkled throughout some of his films about what he thinks of women who seek men of higher stature, & his opinions on preferring women dating men of lower status so it just wasn’t a surprise is all to me even tho it is a en extreme
Ngl, as a man I would feel some type of way if my wife was making significantly more than me. Not because I’m the jealous type but I was raised to believe that the man is the provider and the protector. And I stand firm on that belief.