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Mecca was speaking all facts. Math you can’t say he’s singing a sad song when that song is basically the anthem of our history. Our ppl aren’t setup like other groups are.
Math pushing that black boule integration narrative
Math said change your circle what does that mean
@@Keepthinking568 He means hang out with people who are doing stuff instead of people that ain't about nothing
Yeah..but we have to start fam...
@@Keepthinking568 ....deal with progressive people...
Math, Mec was correct at the end of the convo. Some people have that safety net where they can make mistakes and restart. Most of us don't have that.
Of course, because of our past..That should not be the focus,though The focus should be on the solution not the problem.
@@elliot2177 How can you figure out solutions without knowing the problems ??
@@DrixMaloneDFS We all know what the problems are.We do not to be stuc k on it like he is and making it the focus of the c onvo.That is my point.Put the energy towards solving it
Excuses
Excuses. Moses became a leader at 80 years old. Only you make things impossible for yourself
This a real mature conversation, discipline is definitely a important thing
Sorry Math but you completely missed Meccas point. He was spitting FACTS
Yo math head was on the moon what mecca said was true
True… Mecca was talking about having a familial foundation. His friend was able to regroup securely, b/c he was able to rely on his “foundational springboard,” otherwise known as his family/family structure and support. Continued blessings 🙏🏾💞
Yup Mecca was speaking facts and it's uncomfortable facts that not everyone wants to hear
In a major way. I fukin hate when we talk about people ( the masses ) and a nigga starts talking about what he sees and who he knows. I've been with my wife since 16. So we have been together for 30 years. So if a nigga tells me he married his 2nd baby mother and they got divorced in 3 years. And 70 percent of marriages fail after 3 years. And I say that's bullshit. I been with my wife 30 years. I'm 1 man. And if we are talking about say 10 million people. And I'm 1 out of ten million. And the majority of that ten million is being affected by something and I'm not. Who should we focus on ? Not the 1 that's not effected. So what you know a Lotta niggaz doing good. That's because that's the circle you are in. You can always tell when a nigga starting to eat. I been doing well for a while now. And I'm still fully aware I'm doing much better then the average Black Man my age. I didn't say the few. I can make 100k minimum up to 150 in my life at the moment. That number would make 50 cent or Jay z cry. They have Jewelry that costs more then that. But to the average dude in NYC or NJ. I'm doing better then him. The average dude drives a 25 to 30 thousand dollar car if he has 1 at all. . My car is worth 56 grand. The next 1 I get will be around 80. The average guy is not driving a 80 thousand dollar car. I don't give a shit what your personal experience is if we are talking about the masses. People need to think before they speak.
J hood speaking fact
Math you missed his point. He was saying that the generational habits in the hood needs to change. And it's geared more toward the NYC NWK CHI PHIL BMO type of communities where real estate is hard to come by so if you got it keep it and if you don't, then acquire it and keep it available for the generations after you so they always have that foundation to fall on so they can regroup. Fact is, he was right. What do you say to the grands and great grands still in the same PJ apartment they raised their kids in 50 years ago? There's no ownership there. It's not about his circle, he is talking about the plight of the people and the people is the audience. He is discussing it with you but, try to reach the thinking of those of us who need to consider what he is saying.
Math is ignorant, sad to say. But it’s either lack of mental maturity or wilful ignorance at his age
Mecca was talking BIG facts this entire video.
Mecca is talking facts and like the black community the rest of the people in the shop aren’t taking heed to what he’s saying. Everyone loves to scream I’m independent and I’m on my own after their parents tell them they have to be out after 18. But it’s a downfall for our community because we try to make it on our own when we don’t really don’t know how to then try to go back and are told no you have to tough it out when other communities welcome their own back with open arms and help them to time after time while the black community looks at you like you’re a complete failure. You have to learn from your mistakes and if you have nothing or nowhere to fall back on to. then most give up or just stay stagnant. I.e. pay check to pay check and never really accomplish their goals cause of the system they were raised in. We need to stop thinking that making someone fend for their own because society says they’re grown. Everyone needs help in certain areas and if going back home to reset is what it takes then so be it.
Amen!! These dudes acting like clowns and stunting growth by being ignorant like shii all good smh. Mecca couldn't even give the full breakdown because they wanted to interrupt with irrelevant nonsense. People like them is reasons why blacks aren't nor will not achieve success on a global scale, where there's many amongst us instead of a small number. Hard headed, too loud & proud, running their mouths but ain't saying nothing of sustenance. We don't be listening at all, when they could’ve absorbed the knowledge and built off of it giving solutions. He even told us to not listen to what Mecca was saying though, like what smh?!
They really didn't wanna acknowledge what mecc was saying because it was true.
I’m Just a hood dude doing food reviews on my RUclips channel broskie
To much ego in the room. Mecca’s stance was challenging a lot of the ideas that most of men in our community grew up on. It’ll land with time
Amen....all facts!!
Shy need a solo interview he has a great story and very deep
When J Hood speaks you can hear the growth ✔ Proud of him
Mecca is on point 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Agreed, and they're trying to stop him from spreading knowledge with their ignorance smh.
💯 facts
Yah lunchin, mecca speaking 1000% correct, let him get the floor . all that overtalking with ignorance n being inconsiderate to his thoughts is the reason some people get discouraged in trying to breakup the monotony within our generational habits. Show support within the race as u grace n respect other races.
Math don’t start negating the struggle because I few ppl in a few places is doing “Ight”
He can't because he used to rob his own people so he should know better, even though he's a changed man.
@@zxcccccc1 yea I’m on the same boat he should know and remember the struggles and hard times that made him feel like he had to rob his own ppl
Exactly just because him & few people in his circle is doing good doesn't mean it's the same for everyone.
Math on some bull in this video. Brother is over there speaking facts and you say don’t believe him. Nothing he said was wrong. Every other race will save save save to help the next on in line, And not look for it back. But math will say every excuse why things are not right. That brother speaking facts!!
The *ish* people cut his check so the more closer you get to bringing them up he gotta redirect the convo
@Ben P…Mecca sounds like he’s coming up with the excuse. If you know the moves that every race is playing, that’s a good start.
This podcast deserves an award the conversation that’s being had is amazing Hoffa do not sign you rights away to have these type a conversation where ppl gonna try control you and the guests
Salute to that mindset Mecca 🤝🏽
I hear you.
Generational wealth is literally getting started with me for my family. The mindset!!!
Take heed to what Mecca is saying! Knowledge that can take our community further.
It’s an “in-between” convo because we’re in an “in-between”reality historically. So both convos need to be heard so the new reality can be understood and appreciated and done with context and reasoning. Definitely conversation that needs to continue to be had followed by action all of us will rise.
This episode really shows how divided and delusional the black community is. And it’s also the main reason why I no longer have these conversations with most of our people. Mecca was speaking straight up facts and Math was being a contrarian.
Cause math get a check from the *ish* people. The camera didn't move to the person in the back ground until math got up, that was WRONG....
At that notice I'd say it's almost dangerous for that dude to be there, people don't think people be getting sacrifice but they do. Dude that was legit need to bounce for his own protection.
And bigga don't have nothing to say until somebody says GoD
🎯 .. like these type of conversations are worthless at point because it's too many individuals speaking for themselves and not everyone as a whole bosses kings Shepard's servants even Rome doesn't like people to gain to much power
Facts we always selling out over money and being jealous
@Beeshi B 🤔 Let me see, it don't .
If i say people breath be stinking, it don't mean I know all. I wasn't speaking In absolutes.
Now if you want to go look at the data from the cdc and see our people divorce rate, abortion rate, homeless, wealth etc this all goes back to a mindset.
This is a very powerful conversation I hope this spreads to other households for discussion
That was probably that hardest session. I seen. Out of everybody.thats been on...Dat made so much Sense. But went ova so many heads. Shout out to Mecca..... You killed it
Exactly! Mecca was on point when he said his white friend had the option of moving back home to start another business when his previous business failed because his parents set it up that way.
🤣🤣🤣"The New Oprah" hahaha, i love it. I'm here for it. Much support. Happy holidays to everyone in NYC
Some of Us come from families that don't have a safety net to come back too. Some have parents that throw you to the wolves of the world @ 18 even tho you are not prepared mentally or financially and tell you figure it out you can't come back here because that is what was done to them.
And some of those individuals that are blessed to make it all the way through some of them will carry that on with the rest of they life and don’t want to deal with anybody so they never look back and they stay on the move for the rest of they life they tend to get selfish but can you really blame them in a way of them being selfish? They got thrown to the wolves no support no nothing. I’m not saying people should be selfish but I understand why some people are
@@Dantana773 I never said you said they were selfish. I just was saying people that get toss to the wolves in a way it can make them selfish in the future
I was really surprised Math light bulb didn't come on safety net being said. We all know that's dead ass what it be with a ton of them versus black. We don't get to come back home a ton if never to reset and try again. Mom n pop dukes can't afford that shit!🤷🏿♂️
@@taurusl7014 Damn Man you a straight Goofy for this wack azz joke/ comment lol
Seems like Math just getting a taste of a little money and now he is in rooms with people doing good and interprets that as not everyone is struggling out here...Nicca wake up and listen to what Mecca was saying SMDFH
Correct, He try to act like he's bossed up since the deal went through. It's youtube.. all of them are workers which is why they censor certain words and shut down specific topics.
Hanging around them juice...
Math is a sell out you see how he was defending Kanye and the white lives matter shirt to Melly Mell sell out math
@@knoitall-cf1it Damn, I missed that episode. Say it ain't so Math.
Mecca is speaking facts!!!!!
HAVE U BEEN TO ATLANTA???? LMAO LIKE WHATTT WHY IS MATH TALKING. LOL
Mecca has my vote on this one 💯👌🏾
Imagine if all the rappers promoted only majority black owned products.. I just don't believe the major labels will allow it.
Dude needed a mic he was talking that sh** 💯
Math gotta lighten up, he don’t have to challenge everything Mecca say. Meccca was making good points, math would blow it off. You gotta stop b, we know it’s your show
People don't look at the Black own spots like they crazy, often times it's the Black owned spots are more expensive because they either can't buy the same higher quantities, or the a lower on the supply chain.
Which will never be able to prosper because we don't want to help them win in the long run even if we lose a little/take some losses as customers. Of course the prices won't be ideal and add the people buying are probably low to middle class so they're not financially stable and will most likely shop for deals and low prices to get more. It's all unfortunate for real, a shitty cycle but if we really want to win as a whole, someone needs to sacrifice as a consumer and/or as business owners.
@@DrixMaloneDFS That's cap. I've seen Black own companies go from zero to hero with my own eyes. It's about capital, which Black people for the most part lack, which mean we don't own supply lines which mean cost go up.
A store that sell a item for $50 when the store across the street sell the same item for $15 will not be able to compete.
Niggas still go to the Gucci stores, and stand in line for 2 hrs just to give them 400 for a belt buckle. SMH.
They're are also more expensive because they have a much more important mission to serve within the community. Each black own business positions itself to become a direct contributor to closing the gap between the money we spend and the money that leaves our community. Thats not a cause or mission that our businesses can afford to be the 'lowest-cost' provider in while staying in business.
And this is only one reason.
Save your money and Invest! we don't need them new kicks every month! Let that money build up!
Math doesn't know how to critically think or listen. Even when Mecca is validating what math is saying but expounding on the topic Math wants push back without understanding what was said. Actively listen Nicca instead talking to be talking with a conflicting opinion!!!
That's a battle rapper for you.
Math low key lost on what Mecca was saying smh
Mecca speaking as a whole Math speaking on a select few. I love the contrast that everyone adds tho this has slowly became my favorite podcast.
Math be talking crazy we black people have a serious problem when it comes to Economic mecca be on point
Why is that?lol.We have a different history than others do so, of course we have some handicaps.He is just thr typical complaining blk person.Anyone can faultfinding.It takes a strong person to look for a solution.
hes a non FBA i dont know why yall keep forgetting that he come from a whole other country
Hello my godly brothers! Merry Christmas and a happy new year!🌹🌹🌹🌹
A real barbershop conversation without being in the barbershop. I respect everything that was said here.
ALOT OF US YOUNGSTER NEED TO HEAR THIS I SHARED THIS VIDEO AMONGST 15 OF MY BOYS ‼️🎯✔️💯
Mecca speaking the truth. As a whole community those are the issues our people have. Especially with the once you turn 18 you out the house etc
We need Dame Dash on here!
Mecca ain’t lyin, out at 18, can’t come back, or ain’t nowhere to go back too
Sometimes Math be talking out his ass and dnt look at the bigger picture.
Respectfully, seems like we look down on formal education writing it off bs and wonder why they see no cycles being broken…
Shout out to J hood for his maturity and growth! Hoffa keep up the good work and let what Mecca was kicking marinate cause he's on point with what he was saying!
WAKE UP MATH!!!
We don’t have a community and it starts with the mentality of a family. The community starts with a family and then it grows.
You hit the nail on the head. How are we going to come together when folks can barely keep their own family together. Got to start there first.
I just find it bringing legends like Jhood on new platforms is amazing and at the same time hilarious . The fact that we’re all waiting for that one bomb ass question known to most hardcore hiphop on each guest that defined a controversial period in their careers and in J-Hood’s case his dragging his D-block chain across the concrete 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hell yeah almost every guest he brings on has that one shining moment of controversy that they dance around until it's time to ask. cormega-nas, styles-diddy, steele and tek-pac/biggie, guru-rocafella/jay z/dame dash, etc etc.
Salute to Math for the content. Keep it coming! Gems on gems
Shout out to Mecca on this clip 💯
Math you crazy homie ...smh
Hey yo Math Hoffa this really is the OPRAH HIP-HOP VERSION but waaayy better
Mecca be saying a lot of true shit and Math always rebuttal with bad info smh! He always use one example that he know as if its the majority.
Put the camera on my man that’s talking in the background ☮️
Math understands the power of words. The more we speak down on us the more we loose hope. If we highlight and speak on the positive it helps bring hope.
Nope. Mecca was on the money with that. Niggas need to hear things. Living under a rock or not speaking truths ain’t helping nobody. It took a minute but pops telling me a pair of J’s wasn’t gonna get me nowhere was what I need to hear at the time. Niggas need to hear things. Sometimes over and over.
Na that wasn’t it, some of us can’t see past our own nose
The problem with what you're saying is that it suggests that Mecca wasn't speaking the unadulterated truth.
Lets be clear, only through truth can you elevate.
Nah, you have to speak and confront the truth in order to affect change. That speaking things into the universe (mystical sht), does no good when you’re fked up.
understanding the words of power shouldn't make blind and lie to yourself or others about the truth. Guess you like to be lied to so you can feel good about yourself.
Its obvious that math is new to money
Math much love. Mecca might be on point. Born and raised in Atl, GA. We show love, but nowhere like we should. As a business owner am guilty too. 😢
We did come up with Uber first, it was called a Hack in Philly. There was even a show about it on CBS in 2003.
Math always talking about blank that out , cut that out .. that shit never does get cut out😂
The new money Math is makin has him a bit out of touch wit the overall reality of the wealth n property of our ppl throughout America.
Yo Math, you just took a L on this, Mecca was definitely right on point. Don't forget Math where it started. But we gonna give you a pass on this, much love.
#Thankyou 💜 for this discussion. The thing I heard alot this discussion should not be on front street, it should be behind closed doors. If everyone on this podcast made one #bigbusiness or #multiple #businesses #together & grow it #consistently. I'd would be #enlightened.
Just to highlight some positivity of their debate, the simple fact that a room full of black men are talking about generational wealth, real estate, and business ownership is definitely a great thing. We didn’t speak in these terms historically. And the few that did used to be clowned or called a “Sharif” as in “we don’t want to hear that bullsh*t Sharif” - Menace II Society. In Hip Hop, a few of the GOATS like Nas and Jay Z have been planting the seeds for the next generation to become business men and women encouraging ownership or majority stakeholders in multiple business ventures.
If you're gonna sell ur business, make sure u sell it to someone who looks like u, cause that's how we keep wealth in our community
18:59 Not only have they had money for generations, the source of their wealth was under the Headright system, 50 ADDITIONAL acres transferred in title to the European American for every African "head" that they imported.
It's not just that they've had wealth for generations, they've had wealth that was received by the European American based upon your enslaved African ancestors's lives.
🥺🫤🙁🫤😐 shy face when dude was taking over the interview Lmaoo
What up Math yea man let your brother finished but always great discussion real talk. Shalom Peace
Mecca is right. I agree with him this is why I am buying a home the foundation 🏡 not just for me just in case I have lovely family going through tough times trying to figure out and need a quiet place to stay to continue their goals without stress of being homeless. Shit my Arab dudes do it. They lives woth aunty uncle and mother and father put their money together while running a busniess.
Mecca missed the black community musts besides barbershop buffets the funeral parlor is all we only trust each other only. Soulfood and Jamaican food spots also. Mecca has a great points
Jamacians and africans are NON FBA meaning they have ulterior agendas than the Black americans here.
if they united with us then fine but Black immigrants and their children have chose to separate themselves
so they dont count.
Mecca made a good point about that safety net str8 facts 💯💯
Mecca was on point with his comments. To progress. A person must uncondition their perception n thought process.
The problem isn’t that there are no black entrepreneurs, or no black ppl who support black businesses. It’s that black unity isn’t a part of our culture, overall. There are WAY too many ethnicities who make profit off the black community, that black people ourselves, should be owning. And I don’t understand why Math can’t understand that. Mecca was 💯 on point!
I been watching a lot of snippets from this show, and J-Hood has impressed me.
I say this all the time....we have to stop going to these stores.
Finding a solution to this is major!! We already know the problems. Answer: SOLUTION,DISCIPLINE, UNITY AND MOVEMENT!! “Just do it”
Black-owned, but no Black Economic system. The last standing one was the Black Church.
That's not true. I don't spend money with anyone that does not treat me with respect. It doesn't matter who it is, but Black business owners don't take any accountability with offering efficient customer service
The food you are buying is own buy the people who disrespects you regularly
I'm the same way
@@LennyBee83 don't try make no excuses for buying that shit
The lights ,Gas , cable are White owned.
Do you have a phone? Utilities (water,gas,electricity), cable, or car insurance? If so you you indeed spend money with companies that have 0 respect for you 💯
Math be making it about himself.It’s about the masses.
Shyheim always been one of my favorites!!!
Math don’t understand that a “black neighborhood” would have to consist of school, bank, grocery store etc that purely black owned like how the Jews & Asians do it. Mecca talking that talk 💯
This is the best snippet hands down
13:12 TDE is owned by UMG/VIVENDI/BOLLARE
Hoff I like bro with the dreads he speaks his knowledge but sometimes it's like huh what u on lol
Math always talks from a me perspective and not a whole just because some people you may know are in a good place don’t mean we all are like he forgot what he seen growing up or how he grew up just because u at a place in life and your friends don’t mean everyone just became well off I have some friends that’s doing good and some that are doing bad
Exactly
if dudes aren't mic'd up, tell them SHUT UP!!!! play the bench and listen like the rest of us
I get exactly what bro Mecca was pointing out I live in CT and I know people that's EXACTLY like he was referring to and I'm one of those bros that didn't come home after 18 but like Math was saying I changed my circle and my mentality and I now make plenty
Black people will join the marathon together but they can't finish it together. With group success comes a great deal of dissatisfaction for one reason or another.
Does Mecca have another podcast where I can hear him uninterrupted? Because he was speaking real facts before the entire shop shouted him down.
I get it.... Sometimes you may not even have a circle to change.
ITS GOOD TO SEE SHYHEIM ON MATH HOFFA PLATFORM AND JHOOD, PEACE TO ONE OF ONE OF THE LEGENDARY EMCEE SHYHEIM PEACE TO HIP-HOP
How we don't but still we discuss the issue with giving solutions, ACTION IS KEY.
I mess with this podcast hard!!
Way he said lotta niggaz doin good an he hang round bosses without realizing reason he got that confidence is cuz the show poppin did he hang round bosses b4 the show started popping
They just need to give Soul B a chair and make him a co-host at this point lol.
Somebody needs to quickly connect Math with a tutoring lesson from Dr. Claude Anderson
3:53 THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
Mecca talking that talk! 💯
Who was that dropping knowledge at 3:00?!? And why can't we see them? Math pls fix it to where we can still get camera shots of other people in the shop. It's awkward watching you guys stare at sumbody that we can't see
I feel where Mecca and math coming from, but my expert opinion is that Mecca speaks from a place of being connected and aware of the root problems that affect us black people where as though now that Math has entered a new tax bracket and probably has a new circle of people around him that are also in a upper tax bracket he is becoming disconnected and forgetting the disadvantages systemically and mentally majority of our people has been plagued with
I live up in Westchester right bro the towns up here vote on whether they want a business opened up in the town. If it’s a business that brings in taxes to the community they all with it but if it’s a business that doesn’t really bring no money to the community they vote no and the store doesn’t open up.
"On the first of the month rent is due. If you don't have the money you don't have to worry about catching a dog. You'll have to worry about a dog catching your ass!!!" We all thought that was funny but it's really just a generational curse being passed down. Math missed that one.
You dropped a gem there. I love Math and his show but he did miss that one.
We create the trend and movements! We create more wealth than we receive 🤦🏾♂️
I agree the streets are dry.
Mecca was completely on point & wasn't just simply complaining about the issues but was giving simple logical solutions to some of the problems so I'm confused why he got any push back from Math. Love the show tho. This was a great segment