Relays, Rocker Switches and Fuse Panel Wiring Explained
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- There really is not a plunger . It is done magnetically. I just said plunger for a visual effect in your head to understand the relay. I was taught that way 40 years ago....
Relays, Rocker Switches and Fuse Panel Wiring Explained
You can find my whole build thread about my
2021 Yamaha Wolverine X2 XT-R 850 at
www.wolverineforums.com/threa...
Lots more info and pictures there.
30/40 Amp 12 Volt Relays:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
120 Amp 12 Volt Relay:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
5 Pin 20 Amp Rock Lights Rocker Switch:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06...
Rock Switch Harness:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08...
Fuse Panel:
www.amazon.com/dp/B08H4Q9SYR?...
100 AMP Circuit Breaker:
www.amazon.com/dp/B08KDQ7Z7Cp... 
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This video saved me so much headache you don’t even know thank you lol
Extremely clean and organized wiring! 👍🏻
Thank you for the complete run down on switches and relays wow what a game changer this video is.....Subbed
Exactly what I was looking for!! Besides this, I could not find a good (correct) wiring video for adding higher watt/amp light bars on my Maverick X3. This is exactly what I needed. Thank you!
Thank you for this very complete explanation. Keep it up. You’ve got great vids.
Hey VC, just watched a vid where you explained “relays”. Kudos brother! Very informative! I’ve always heard about relays but never understood their use…until now. I’m taking on a project…my pontoon. A basket case from the get go! So watching videos such as yours and another one I’ve tuned into, Toms Toons, are both game changers!! Thanks again….👍🏼🍻
This video has helped me understand better what I'm doing with my car wire connections. Thank you!
Absolutely the best , educational video on switches and relay's!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly what I was looking for 👍 very well explained and demonstrated. Fab.
So simple yet so effective
Amazing little box and very well explained.
That was Great. I just did the Big 3 upgrade and added a second battery to my truck. I'm adding 7 inch reverse lights and two, 12 inch light bars to the front. I didn't care for the harnesses I was sent. If i have to splice wires to account for length I'd rather do it myself. My truck is just over 20ft long. I also made a 4 switch rocker panel in place of the simple toggles and fabricated them into my overhead center console sunglass compartment. Your video helped a great deal in reassuring my intentions. I do intend to use the necessary parts from the harnesses provided in my rebuild
Thank you.
Sorry for the long winded comment.
Well done Chris. And well thought out.
Brother what a tutorial, thanks for the training it was excellent.
Great video . Thank you for the quality production .
Fantastic explanation. Very well done, sir!
Great video this all makes better sense to me now! Thanks for doing it!
Finally! I have my answer - two switches would require two relays - thank you 🙂🙏
That was extremely informative. Thank you.
Incredible demonstration...Thank you
Thank you! Learned a lot from this video!!
Very good explained, \how relays work now it is more clear for me. Thank you
The world's best teacher
Best videos that explain how a relay works !!!
No it's not. He said sooo many things wrong. Anyone who wanted to learn about relays just got a bunch of misinformation.
@@AztecWarrior69 ok mr mayan
@@chuemoua6834 What the F is wrong with you! I am helping you out by warning you that this is NOT the best nor is it even a good video on relays because he gave you so much wrong information, and your azz responds with mocking and a disrespect to my heritage. What is wrong with you.
Thank You!!!! Very well explained.
Awesome video, thank you! Very educational
Very good video thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. Much appreciated.
Great video! watched multiple times. explained perfectly. saved to my favorites. But how sad viewed 40k and only 63 comments. Bastards!
Great explanation!👍🏼 Thank You!
Great video. Thanks for raking the time!
Nice visuals and explanations
Great job expaining. Well done
great video, very informative!
Great your a great trainer
awesome explanation!
Great video man!!! Excellent! This has been THE BEST video on RUclips to explain this thoroughly! Subbed!!!
Wow that huge speaker in your ride! Insane man! Love it! I don't know jack about car/UTV audio but your setup is slick! Love it!!! 💪🏽😎
Love your clean wiring and the fuse panel! If I have any questions may I ask you in these comments or do you have a Facebook page???
Such an informative video. explains everything exactly and precisely.
great video I get how to handle the switch fuse issues, my question is how you manage and fuse the in-load accessories power to the relay besides just adding an inline fuse where the wire connects to the battery for each circuit where a relay is used
great explanations thanx
Great information
Wow thats great, i'll defo wire it so all the lights go on when its pressed. Or maybe wire the bottom to the dash light circuit
This is the best video I have seen on this so far. Question though, could you not run power to your rocker switch and main power to relay and light bar all off the fuse box? I see you ran the main power from battery to relay. I'm wondering if it's okay to just power it from the fuse box instead.
Well done, good vid. thnx.
Hi Chris, very informative. I'm thinking through the idea of using the Voswitch rocker switch bar I'm about to install in my Jeep as a kill switch for the ignition using a rocker switch label that says it's for something else. In this use case, is connecting a relay to the fuse panel of the Voswitch the only way to go or could it be more simplified to route the ignition wire through the rocker switch and bypass the Voswitch fuse panel altogether? Wouldn't this effectively be making the rocker switch the relay using the same current as the ignition currently sends if the switch is activated?
Thanks for sharing. Question: if you were to add a diode, where in the circuit would you add it?
Awesome video man. I have a Suggestion for your next video,
how to test amp draw🤞🏼
Go to my Build Thread, Post 115. It will show how I did current draw on Ceiling Fans in My Wolverine. www.wolverineforums.com/threads/venoms-2021-yamaha-wolverine-x2-xt-r-850-build.32328/page-6
It is a simple meter from Amazon that just clamps around the wire and gives you current draw.. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z398YWF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Perfect thank you, one question for you on your main 💯 amp relay did you run that ground back to the secondary battery or to the frame ?
@@brianl4521 I ran it to the ground side of the Fuse Panel I put in. You could run it to either battery ground or to the frame.
So you said that the positive and ground from the fuse block for your light bar are going to your switch, but, the nilight diagram visualizes it as going from the fuse block to the relay to the switch. Which one is it? I'm trying to plan for my new X2. Also, do you only have a 4A fuse because you are using the included inline fuse with the wiring harness? Great video btw!
Dope 👍
Very informative . A lot of people are so intimidated, I try to encourage to my acquaintances to draw things out and see if it makes sense first. I come from doing a lot of marine wiring such as radar array systems and sonar setups. They say to me “ well you have experience doing that “ when they find that out .. I tell them , it’s nothing special , It’s all the same !
Wiring my Duster as we speak , bigger pain in the butt than a vessel, lol.
I’m using a blue sea LVD with remote rocker switch and I need to put a fuse on the power leading from the battery to the switch. What size fuse would you recommend? Thanks for your help.
Thank you. Your video answered a lot of my questions that I had searched for. Do you have a video on wiring?
All there 👍👍👍
What About with the XP PRO that has that pulse bar that u can connect with the constant hot , Negative and Ignition wire ? We’re would constant hot go and we’re would u put the ignition wire. ?
I have these relay with wires pre installed. 30 would be your rocker switch or ignition to activate relay using 16ga wire. ( 86, 87, 87A are all 12ga wires to carry the power load.) 86 connects to batt. positive term to supply power (Not 30 ). and 85 to batt. ground term. 87A provides constant power until you turn ignition / switch on, 87A closes / off and then 87 provides power from batt. Turn ignition / switch off and through power switches back to 87A. Turn power switch / ignition back on and power flow through 87.
So when wiring a 3 pin LED switch to a relay…86 out to the switch in and out, but what do you wire to the bronze connector on the switch? Ground?
I’m preparing to set up my own wiring on my SXS. I’m just confused on the 120 amp relay and you having those smaller relays by the second battery for the light bar. Can’t you just use the 120 amp relay alone or am I missing something?
Great Video!! Very informational!!! Quick question though... If you have all your stuff on switches.. Why run a switch for the fuse panel? Will it drain your battery if its straight power or?
I did that so I can run my accessories without having the key on and running the fuel pump.
@@venomchris5818 But why not just run the hot wire straight to the relay and to the fuse block? Why use a switch there?
@@2wdDenali You still need to activate the relay. The hot wire from the battery does go straight to the relay and then to the fuse panel. Then you need to activate the relay either with 12 volts from the ignition switch or 12 volts from a toggle switch.
Hey one thing I didn’t understand..maybe I missed something (or I’m just stupid 🤷♂️) in a circuit that triggers a relay your fuse block only protects the side of the circuit with the switch…the low current stuff. Do you have some kind of device in the loop that goes from battery to relay to device (light bar, air compressor, etc.) to ground? Is it that 100A breaker or maybe a different device you didn’t call out?
In the dome light circuit with no relay that 5A fuse protects the whole circuit, switch, lights, etc.
If I’m going to drop 30A through something using a relay I am going to want a fuse of appropriate size between the battery and the relay (pin 30) I’d think…asking for a reality check here.
Video is great…excellent explanation of the relay and the two sides of the circuit. You know a video is good when you watch several times and review specific parts for reference well done! 👍👍
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Could you do a video on how you set-up your auxiliary battery, and how it is charged?
There is a video of it along with a link to my posts in the wolverine forums that has more pictures and details. ruclips.net/video/Lo9SmOubBdE/видео.html
Thanks for the video Chris - however I have some questions: I have a 6 gang niLight switch gang - I m not positive on how to hook it up along with the relays?? Do I need 6 relays ?
Thanks
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If your accessories draw less than 10 amps each you don't need any relays. Those rocker switches have a 20 Amp max and a 10 Amp continuous rating. If the accessory will draw more than 10 amps then it would need a relay.
Where does the white wire go to on a light bar harness to a 3 prong switch but I'm using a 5 prong rocker switch.
Can I wire two switches for two different lights but only one relay? Nilight bar and rear spot lights on my ranger? Thanks
Do you think i should use a relay on a turn signal ,horn,hazard kit for a honda talon ? When i installed the plug in play signal kit with the provided switches 2 one for left right signal and one for the horn /hazards ,activating the horn it popped the fuse for everything . My power in comes from the key on acc port on the talon wire harness for a winch install that i don’t have . Thanks again .
You should use a Relay.. A horn by itself usually draws a good bit of current
@@venomchris5818 thank you Chris they had a 5 amp fuse in line to turn signal system and i testes the amp draw on the horn and it was 7.36 amps load when used. I tried to tell the seller turn pro about this and he couldn’t figure out my problem till i called them to explain the problem again and again .i was getting feed back in the electrical system when horn was activated .
Chris, How is the Venom Switch wired? Do you have an inline fuse from the battery to the switch? Do you run the ground back to the negative terminal on the battery or to ground?
The Yamaha Wolverine has extra accessory leads. I used one of those leads for the switch. It is already fused in the Yamaha harness.
Chris I do not have an extra accessory lead. Can I use the 12v lead coming from my 120amp circuit breaker going to my 12v 120amp amp relay Pin 30 to power the switch that would provide 12v to Pin 86 and Ground the Switch to the Fuse Block? Or should I run a dedicated lead from the battery and fuse it. If the latter what size fuse would be sufficient for the switch and to power the relay? @@venomchris5818
@@austinfranks9471 Yes you can ground the switch to the fuse block and you can pick up your 12 volts for the power going to the relay. You could use a 10 amp fuse one the wire going to the switch.
Hello Sir. Watching all your videos and trying to work on our new 2022 x2 rspec. Your work is awesome. Your recommendation please on wiring up winch please. Do I need relay or not? Thanks B.J.
A Winch should come with everything.. The switch attaches to a relay that reverses the power going to the winch for in and out operation. The wires are usually color coded for easy hook up.. The only two wires that hook up to the vehicle are the positive and negative that go to the battery..
@@venomchris5818 this is BJ tried for 30 min to reply with a video of my wire diagram, can't figure it out to get it to you. Anyway you would swap cell numbers?
@@byronjackson1520 Sorry, I don't swap numbers. You can post your question in the Yamaha forums listed in the description on this video.
@@venomchris5818 gotcha. I follow you there as well.
I do have another question, I just got a sound bar and want to hook it up to a 5 pin rocker switch so it doesn't drain the battery slowly, the sound bar harness has
Pos/neg and acc input. Would I hook pos/negative to battery and run acc input to rocker pin #3?
Yes
What size wire would you use when running the relay to the switch and switch out to the accessory for light bars
It all depends on the size of the light bar.
@@venomchris5818 just regular size pod lights not the big light bars stuff like ditch lights.
@@beanieweenie9543 led pod lights probably don't draw 10 Amps.. You could probably use 18AWG, but I always go up one which would be 16AWG.. Always use pure copper wire...
Where can I learn everything you have learned ????
This maybe a stupid question but I must ask, does the bracket on the housing have to be screwed down to metal or is it just a mounting bracket nothing to do with grounding? thnx.
Most housings are plastic with plastic mounting tabs. Some plastic housings have metal mounting tabs but do not provide a ground.
@@venomchris5818 Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. Thanks again for your vid, excellent job, I will definitely send folks over to it when asked about relays.
The 12volt 5 pin 100 Amp waterproof Relay has 2 contacts & not 1 contact & I'm hoping to use this relay for a radiator electric cooling fan & so would this 12V 100 Amp relay unit work with a radiator electric cooling fan unit Kind Regards Peter
It should work, post a link to the relay.
So the center pin on the gang switches goes to the power side of the fuse panel.?, then the red wire from the light accessory goes to the bottom pin on the switch.... ?, where does the ground wire from the light go?, confused
can i run a switch on a 4 pin relay?
Im looking at buying a fan with a 4 pin relay so does it mean its always charged I guess? No switching?
You should have a switch that turns the relay off and on. Or if the fan turns on by temperature it could be hot all the time or when the ignition is on.
@@venomchris5818 Ok so attaching it to the fuse box will switch it ? Hard for me to fathom this I do residential elec. and its so different , you would never run 2 power sources to an item.
@@frekkledipped The reason you use a relay and run a wire to it to turn the relay off and on is because some accessories draw more current than rocker switches can handle. The relay feeds the higher current wire through it to the accessory. You could come out of the the fuse box using a lead that turns off and on with the ignition switch, That would turn the relay off and on.
@@venomchris5818 OK thanks bro!
My switch has 3 wires (one to 86 on relay, one to 85gnd, and one actually connects to 30) my question is, the wire that goes to 30 is to light up the switch's built in led... does this defeat the purpose of using a 4 pin relay?
I would need to see that switch and relay. The switch and relay are two different things, A 3 pin switch usually has Power In, Power Out and a Ground for the LED. A 3 pin relay is usually used on Flashers, Warning lights, etc.. A 4 or 5 pin relay is usually used for all accessories.
Do I run a wire from both battery post to the switch or just the + and where does the ground wire go to? Also I want the bottom led to run when I turn on my headlights or parking lights. I’m thinking of using my radio dimmer wire which is unused because I have a aftermarket radio that has its own dimmer
excuse my sir why did GM exactly put field wire for alternator to 4pin defroster relay to be exactly pin 86???
that same relay started to draw current on me when the car is off and unusual problem acured me car cinde of self acelerates its carbureted engine Opel from the 80s tipical GM design.
I think the integrated diode is faulty but I removed the relay and 2pin buzzer 3pin blinker 6pin wiper relay only thing I didnt remove is the 3pin blinker and still engine delf acelerateas so do head lights have some thing to do with it?
I do have xenon bulbs with out ballast but car worked that way for years only thing ells I gave dual fillament bulb and positive linear voltage regulator and hei 4pin gm ignition module nothing ells as for electronics so Im confused what culd cause engine to become magnetised???
Very informative, but no mention of a diode.
So i was wondering why no copper clad wire?
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geez almost no one says what amp Fuse to TOGGLE relay ... 5, 10, or 15 amp ??? to safely trigger relay with out burning up relay coil.
Generally most accessory leads in a car or SXS / ATV are 15 amps. Some can be 10. The relay coil will only pull enough current to work. The only time it would pull more is if it shorted in some way. That would blow the fuse. The average 12 volt relay only pulls .16 Amps to trigger the coil. You could put a 3 amp fuse on the power input wire to the coil if you wanted to be very cautious. But I have not seen anyone do that.
Can i have multiple switches running off one 100a relay?
Yes, but you would still need to individually fuse each accessory on each switch.
@venomchris5818 wut if I ran it to fuse block, relay to fuse block then accessories to fuse block?
@@venomchris5818 then daisy chain the acc on the switch to goto the acc/ignition
@@ballzdeep1017 that is how I did mine.. If you go to the wolverine forum mentioned in my other Wolverine videos you can see how I wired up the fuse box.
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Why would it matter weather 85 or 86 is powered or ground unless it is wired that way somewhere else, they would work just the same?
True, I have seen most diagrams say it the way in the video. Just don't want to confuse anyone. easier just to give one option to always follow.
Very informative ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I hope that I don't 🤬🤬🤬🤬 it up😁
hey Chris amazing video!! do you have an email address I can contact you at I am having trouble wiring a dual push button switch to some off road lights.
If I'm following correctly, you used the fuse block to fuse the switches? How did you fuse your main 12v for your accessories? I disagree with this entire method. The best way to wire these is to daisy chain all your switch grounds, accessory 12v and lower LED. That way you only have one ground and one 12v source (accessory) powering all your switches. Then you only have the output to the relays. The fuse block should be fusing all your pin 30 connections on the relays.
You can daisy chain all your grounds but not all accessories use enough amperage to need a Relay on each switch.. So I fused each switch and ran the accessory from each switch.. Only the accessories that drew more current than the switch is rated for got a Relay that was fused. I disagree with the way you would daisy chain all your power to the switches. There is a main circuit breaker on the fuse panel. Of all my switches only two needed relays.
@@venomchris5818 The power to the switches is just accessory power to light the LEDs on the switch. I'm able to do this because I use relays on all my switches. I don't have any power going through the switch.
I’ve watched all your videos but can’t wrap my head around it. Can we chat
Post your questions in my build thread at the Wolverine forums. The link is in the description of the video.
how can you tell if your not getting ground at 85???
Using your Meter put the Red Positive lead to the battery 12 volts + and touch the Negative Black lead to pin 85..the meter should show 12 volts. If it does not you have no ground.
@@venomchris5818 I used a test light. hooked it up to the positive and put it to 85 and it lid up so I should be good, correct?
@@pablogomez7519 Yes
@@venomchris5818 ok because my situation is no crank start. good Ignition switch, fuses,and relay. but no power to S wire to starter. maybe bad neutral safety switch 🤔??
@@pablogomez7519 what vehicle are you working on?
There really is not a plunger . It is done magnetically. I just said plunger for a visual effect in your head to understand the relay. I was taught that way 40 years ago....
I would like to see where your wires (all 4 connections) go to and from on the 120A relay. I looked at both the video and the website.
@@glenroyglenclarke2374 The 120 AMP relay is numbered exactly the same as the small 30 AMP relay. The diagram that shows the relay pins is the same for the 120 AMP. I used 4 AWG Wire for the switched pass through. The other two wires are ground and a switched 12 volts that trips the relay.
@@venomchris5818 I'm using only 1 battery but I added a fuse bank with one main power switch like you did. I got the relay and I want to add it. I'm unsure how to add it and where it would go. I'm lost in the sauce.
@@glenroyglenclarke2374 If you go to my build thread at : www.wolverineforums.com/threads/venoms-2021-yamaha-wolverine-x2-xt-r-850-build.32328/page-6 , it will show you the relay monte to what I would call the firewall. It is mounted just behind the fuse panel to the left. You can also see it in video #18. The wiring is the same for the large relay as the small. Come off your battery with a positive wire and into a circuit breaker or large fuse. come out of the Fuse Holder / Circuit breaker and go into Pin 30 of the relay. Come out of Pin 87 of the relay and in to the fuse panel. Now take one of the switched accessory leads in the dash and the positive 12V goes to Pin 86 of the relay and the Ground goes to Pin 85. Now when you turn the key on it will power up the fuse panel.
@@venomchris5818 Chris, I was trying to wire it like you did yours. I don't want to wire it to come on with the key. I wanted to use a master switch to turn on the fuse panel so I can use the Wolverine for music or whatever without powering on everything else. Thanks.
@2:16 - The diagram on the right-hand side (relay) has a symbol to the left of where it says "COIL" that looks like a side ways "Play" button actually symbolizes a DIODE.
The relay you used (WM686) does NOT have any integrated diode. These are important in relays and any inductor, due to "back EMF" (also called "flyback").
Without a diode, you could damage your circuit when the power to the relay is turned OFF.
Otherwise, great video!
Make your own video ya know-it-all
2:32 You keep saying plunger. There is NO plunger. This is Not a solenoid. There is a rod (That rod NEVER moves.) in the center of the coil and that gets magnetized. When that happens that magnetism pulls the tiny metal bit that is welded to the copper contactor.
2:40 Also NOT like a hinge at all. It is a either a spring metal or a lever pulled back by springs. In that case it is s teeter saw.
Read the description.. I said there is no plunger....
@@venomchris5818 Timestamp where you say plunger is in my comment.
I looked at the description before I commented and there is absolutely nothing about plunger mentioned in the description. I took a screenshot. I can upload it if you like. Nothing there.
@@venomchris5818 I went ahead and did a word search and nothing shows up in the description. The only 5 instances that show up on the entire page, are in our conversation. Took screenshots again if you wanna see them.
you are correct, My mistake it is the first comment That I posted when I uploaded the video. "There really is not a plunger . It is done magnetically. I just said plunger for a visual effect in your head to understand the relay. I was taught that way 40 years ago...."@@AztecWarrior69
5:08 "It's not used very often". Like hell it's not. Early model vehicles use this changeover relay for the headlights. A huge amount use this for the power windows and door locks.
I'm not trying to bust balls here , but in the first five minutes you have said many incorrect things. But if you are making a video about relays and trying to explain them to people who don't know how they work then you yourself should get facts correct. Again I am not trying to be a dick, but not misinforming people is something that is paramount when teaching.
OH and I like your antenna pointer.
So I bought a 6 rocket switch box Nilight 6 Gang Rocker Switch Box 12V SPST ON Off Switch QC 3.0 USB Charger Voltmeter Waterproof Aluminum Rocker Switch Panel has one black and red that goes to power the box and each rocket switches has one single white wire that goes to the accessories. My question is where I should get the power for the box? Straight From the battery or from the ignition accessory? But it needs a relay or fuse?
You can run attach one Ignition power lead to the panel and one ground. But then you will need to have a relay on each switch that supplies the power to whatever accessory you are using.
@@venomchris5818 so I ended Connected to a light bar wiring harness that comes with a fuse and relay . So one fuse and relay to the rocket switches box that supply power to the rocket switch but not individual relay or fuse to each rocket switches
I got confuse on the relays 32:20 ok then if the fuses only activate the relays and then from the relay goes to the switch, how does the switch is getting the positive and negative from the fuse if the wire from the fuse is already going to the relay? I hope I explain myself good I’m confused @venomchris5818
Had everything hooked up, fuse box to 200a relay, worked good for 3 rides and then something quit on me, for some reason my main rzr fuse panel the accy fuse was blown replaced it and still nothing