Epic or Fail? Roofnest Condor Overland Real-World Test
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I have had the Roofnest Condor Overland for 2 years now and spend countless nights in the tent. In this video, I will share my thoughts on this roof top tent and help you make purchasing decisions.
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When a company doesn't proactively work with a popular social media influencer after one of their products fails spectacularly on-camera, that says everything I need to know about that company. If they ignore someone with 70,000+ followers in a tight-knit community on RUclips, you know they won't be there for J. Random Customer when his tent fails.
Thanks for your insight
Well, after your video about leaks, I set up my Condor with the one piece shell. It’s about 3 years old and I haven’t used it yet. Been building my rig. Anyway, it’s been out in the rain for a few days. Luckily no leaks as for now. Going to seem seal all seems before my 2 month trip to be safe. 22:15 Also my model has the same issue with the ability to reach the switch for LED light if your sleeping with you head at the hard shell side. I don’t have to pockets like yours, but I would just move it to the clear pouch connected to a small usb battery pack. Thanks for the update! Good luck
Casey, thank you for the update on the tent. It’s always very informative what you share. Sorry you’re having issues that you are with it especially the water that’s unresolved problem to drain. Hopefully you figure that out in the future I’m not set on the rooftop tenant at this point I get the attraction and the benefits, at this point, I’m still going to stay with my tent. I’m sure things will always get developed. That might change my mind.
Casey I have the same issue with water pooling on the rain fly. I tracked it down to a bad seam seal on a small section of the clear window of the fly. Roofnest sent me a patch kit and so far, so good.
I have camped with several others with this side opening "clamshell" design... 2 different brands than this one, but if it rained hard, they booth pooled up and leaked...sometimes along the frame where the rainfly ends up touching the fabric all night and then coming through. Staying dry is very important , and I sacrifice the space and have a wedge tent... but I have been in hail storms with 50 mph winds, rain for three days... and everything stayed dry (nickle sized hail that covered the ground 3 inches deep sounded like a gravel truck was dumping on the tent). It happens to be a roofnest as well... but I've had it in very bad weather and it has no leaks. Its the falcon 2. I also have an old smittybuilt on a trailer I own and it has a frame that is more like an accordian set up... it only let small amounts of water in after a couple days of heavy rain, but the design had a peak at the top and everything flowed off... even it it seemed cheaper fabric...water had a hard time standing anywhere on it. I wonder if this design just allows for water to pool up and leak.
Awesome honest review, thx Casey 🙏 love the look and functionality of that RTT, hate the price. My Michigan weather is concerning. Thanks again for pointing out all the little things, both my wife and I had deer in the headlights look when you showed the bug entrance at the hinges.
Most RTTs are overpriced.
I picked up that exact tent about a month ago, thanks for the insight on things I will now be on the lookout for 👍🏻
I too am thinking about this tent. This review and experience is disheartening especially for a cost of almost $4k.
You buy a similar tent from Top Oak for half the price. Looks like it even came from the same factory -topoakoverland.com/products/topoak-pop-up-rooftop-tents-aluminum-hard-shell-for-camping-waterproof-suv-car-jeep-overland-tent-campers-easy-setup-in-30-seconds
Same tent and had it for almost two years. For the first year it lived on the back of the truck. I totally agree with the water down the back and the screens on the wrong side. Luckily I’m not having any issues so far. My last trip was in a week of rain in the Smokies. Also my front door may be different. I have a mini awning that doesn’t have any zippers for use when the rain fly is removed. Then my regular front door zips all the way around and my screen zips all the way around. I only wish it had the duct ports for my Wave 2.
Glad to hear your has faired better. To me no excuse with such a costly tent. I am currently considering one of these. This gives me pause for sure.
Great video Casey, as always 🤘
Appreciate it! Looking forward to seeing you guys at Jeepapalooza!
@@Casey250 can't wait!!
Appreciate your using normal measurements. Really helped me understand the size. I think this was a good review. Almost 75k subs. It’s insane. You have come a long way.
I just keep plugging along as lot as people keep watching :) Always appreciate seeing you drop a comment.
@@Casey250 it would be great if you could let us know when your heading south or north and arrange a short meet and greet on I5 somewhere. I would enjoy seeing the glad and the $600 cooking pots.
I will be heading to Overland Expo PNW end of June
@@Casey250 there you go. Maybe do some brief stops at shops and invite the casonians. Just make sure Ginger takes a shower.
Great review Casey. I’m really liking our wedge tent. Also, nice hat!
The new hat or the hat with horns? ;)
@@Casey250 the hat with horns!!!! I wanna see you rocking that at expo PNW.
I'll bring it!
That’s a lot of water! I wonder if it’s getting in through the logo (is it riveted on?) sounds like a lot of water for just that though crazy
Thank you Casey for your honest review
The water is from condensation you need to drill a drain hole
Same thing happens with aluminum railing posts, if drain holes are not drilled water freezes in post in winter and ends up banana peeling the posts
I bought a James Baroud Evasion M. I don’t have the issues you have and it’s seems much more simpler. Not as roomy and you definitely can’t stand up. I also have not had as much rain as you since I live in Colorado. The water would make me insane. Ha. You’re my favorite RUclipsr Thanks.
Agreed with the water driving you crazy. James Baroud……that isn’t cheap. Hopefully the quality matches the price. Unfortunately, I don’t think many do.
iKamper’s lack of support was off putting enough to swear never to buy a RTT again. A quality tent is a small fraction of the price and from my experience has been problem free.
Totally agree water in the cap is a pain! However, why is drilling a small hole to drain water such a lame idea? Every car door I've seen has drain holes along the bottom edge. When they get plugged up the door rusts out. Same for every sunroof.
Put a high spot in the middle of a mild slope….just a bad design flaw in that style of side clams. Really noticeable on a lot of those,as soon as you open them . Not sure a couple degrees is going to solve that issue.A short arm running from the hard shell to that main cross bar would at least help divert the water to the sides,instead of collecting it, the way the entrance fly does.
Good thing it doesn’t rain that often in the greater Vancouver area ;)
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Thanks! I love it too
The water pooling is likely because you aren't using the poles on the side by your cab, thus it isn't completely taunt.
As far as water getting inside the cover sides, I'd guess the top panel has a gap in the seal between it and the sides.
Casey, I’ve watched most of your videos and do appreciate all the reviews of tents. I actually have been slow to purchase and finally decided to pull the trigger on the Top Oak reviewed by you and others. Great reviews by the way. I know it’s a lower cost lower point of entry. It’ll be my first purchase of a rooftop tent. However, watching the review of this tent would leave me wanting. I understand some of the pooling in the canvas is kind of a given with most tents unless they’re really taught. The big concern I would have is the water inside the lid. Even if the tennis three years old and out of warranty, I would definitely be concerned if I was roof nest on this review. Like I said canvas I get it water inside the shell I do not. Great review and I’m glad I did not pull the trigger on a roof nest like I was thinking about doing originally.
Id go with the plastic lid version. Lighter and not going to have the lid issue. Everything else is kind of just because of the style and may not be unique to the Roofnest. That top oak seems great for the buck to be honest. Gretchen seems to like it.
Have you found a solution to the water accumulating in the lid? Mine has the same issue and I have also considered drilling a drainage hole but wanted to see if anyone else had solved this issue. Thanks for the great video
No. I heard drill holes but that seems janky
I got the new version of the Condor and have some serious concerns already. That heat from the black top is relentless. It does appear at least visually that the upgraded rain fly and tent material should perform better but I'm seeing design flaws even in the new version. It doesn't help that they sent me a tent with two holes in it.
There is a new development...the second time attempting to open the condor it is completely stuck partway open. A Google search shows that several people are reporting that they cannot get the tent open when it's brand new and there is a review on roofnest itself that someone left about the tent getting stuck. One guy on Reddit is having to carry a secondary ladder around with him so he can unhitch it where it's getting stuck. Unfortunately the redesign needs a redesign.
have the same tent with water problem. Its coming from the roof. the rubber weather stripping between the gaps breaks down and cracks and the water seeps in. I noticed water in mine a little bit but very small amount about a year ago and now its so bad my tent had a 1/4 of water pooled in it after the last rainstorm. All my bedding is molding and I'm so pissed
Curious if you'd have all the same issues on the new version with their improvements. I am still excited to get our Condor 2 XL this weekend and it'll be fun figuring it all out. I'll look out for some of the stuff you pointed out on your version and see if these issues persist on the 2.
How did it go? I'm in the market for one as well
Rain water will stagnant on top of the transparent plastic too
Great review
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So my guess is when it gets to freezing temperatures that lid is going to come apart when the water freezes eventually. Time to break out the drill and make a few holes. Unless you’re under warranty.
only 30 days for a warranty, after you jump through all their hoops..
I have no complaints with mine other than the screen/door thing that you mentioned. Have you talked to Roofnest about the water intrusion?
Would be interesting to see what Roofnest’s response would be? Would they back their product or be “too bad, too sad”?
What will you do with any extra products you get to review and not actually use? Curious if you do giveaway or offer them at a discount or even donate?
Have you tried calling them to report the water issue?
Good information. I am currently considering the Roofnest Condor Overland for our Gladiator. Maybe I haven’t “drunk the Koolaid” but when you are spending north of $3k for a RTT, it should NOT have these issues. Makes me reconsider my thinking. Did you reach out to Roofnest? I would be curious as to what they say. I really like the clamshell vs the soft top RTT. Really like the aluminum cover vs the plastic. But, this does NOT sound good. Maybe some of those $1k to $2k tents are where it is at. At least if your spending less, you don’t feel so bad when they have issues. I have had cheaper (price and quality) ground tents that have held up and lasted better than some of the high cost RTTs which is disappointing.
My current opinion is - check out the cheaper roof top tents as a first tent. They quality looks acceptable. I see a lot of designs from companies all looking the same which leads me to believe they are manufactured by the same company and just tweaked for each brand. I think if you want to spend the big bucks on a tent, go with one that is made BY the company and not farmed out. Some that stick out - Alu-cab, James Baroud, GFC. The quality difference is substantial on my Alu-cab.
@@Casey250 Of these 3, Alu-cab, James Baroud, and GFC which would you choose for a 2024 Toyota 4Runner?
Probably alucab or james baroud but depends on climate. Gfc isn't as good in winter from what I've seen. Kind of splitting hairs at the top of the top.
If I see this I'm really just happy that I decided not to buy another rtt after my ikamper fail especially since I had a roofnest in mind at some point. On my skycamp mini first the side windows of the rainfly failed which literally rotted away over the winter with a closed tent parked under a car port in the pnw. About 6 months later the top window failed and got cracks.. (in dry conditions). Next was the velcro of the ladder which failed followed by a foot falling off the ladder. I got lucky and ikamper replaced the rainfly and I immediately sold this thing. A lot of money for poor quality.
Agreed about the money vs quality. What RTT are you currently running?
I think my rule of thumb now is - buy the cheapest varient with out a brand, or buy one that is made by the brand itself and not in a shared factory with 100 other tents. Alu Cab, James Baroud, GFC, and a few others all make their tents.
@casey you do realize you are describing the features of a 20 dollar Coleman ground tent that I used when I was 10 in scouts lol.
That’s the old one you gotta get the new condor two Overland
Does the new one have the same issue?
@@docaaron2127 no it’s fixed. It’s one stamped aluminum shell so no more gaps on the top for water to go in. In my opinion, it’s the best one after looking at every single company, high end tent.
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Love the optimism.
A $4k tent that has that many basic issues (especially the water ingress)? I'll be buying something else.
Huh, over priced and poor quality, like most things these days.
My thoughts exactly. Why buy one of the high dollar RTTs if they are having all these issues. There are plenty of cheaper cost ones out there.
Bro why have these videos gotten so long and just going on and on and on and on and on
I just cover what needs to be said. I cut a lot out as it is.
Worst tent ive owned.