Really? I don't believe in God ans the Torah because of what a rav do or doesn't. They are human beings, I don't worship human beings. That's idolatry.
As I said, it makes me believe in god and the Torah. Not in this Rav. And I believe it’s ok for a Jew to inspire another; there is no idolatry in that.
Rav Moshe Meiselman. Is the most genuine spiritual leader that one could ever hope to find! His greatest strengths lie not only in his mastery of every genre of Jewish sacred literature, but also in his humility and faithful service to the Rebbe. That a doer of evil has been shown to exist, leaves him with the duty that he has shown for many decades , to execute with a profound devotion & attention to detail.
I'm only half way through but this Rav is saying that many people knew about Chaim walder and continued about their ways, allowing victims to be tormented?? They knew and did nothing ?!??!?!
I just watched this piece and had the same reaction. Why is everyone so happy to hear him now? Where were our rabbonim when things were bad already way back when? Why has this been muted from them for so long? We need rabbonim that speak out for us before terrible tragedy of such magnitude. We don’t need so much pain to get opinion. Now that he committed suicide im happy he can’t hurt anyone anymore. But how does that help for the future? Can the rabbonim find a way to catch this earlier? There’s gotta be something to learn from this
I don't understand why it was kept quiet 20 years ago? Can someone please explain that to me? Also, the fact that he went to the Israeli army as proof that he's not a good person is confusing to me. Can someone please explain?
He just meant instead of learning several years in Yeshiva, he decided to go to the army. That didn't make him a bad person it just means he wasn't a scholar who learnt for many years. You can't become a surgeon after being in medical school for a couple of years. The person could nevertheless be a good person.
Excellent questions! There are some deep disturbing answers but no one wants to hear them. The basic premise is that there is a deep deep chasm in charadie daas Torah society. I have recorded a video on this. But have yet to put it out. It’s mind blowing to watch brilliant talmidai chachamim have so much cognitive dissonance and get things so wrong. At least Rav Meiselman got it right on the point that he is a Rasha. But so many deeply disturbing issues, problems and questions on so many other things he says. I had so much hope when I started this video and he has a certain charisma and is certainly brilliant Torah scholar. But as he dropped in some subtle and then not so subtle ideas, I left feeling heart broken and empty.
So then why did all the rabbonim who knew he was a rasha gamur for many years NOT do more to remove such a mashchis from public life?? All those broken nefashos for what?
Aaron Ross. None of these good rabbis said a word till Walder was gone which raises a bit of suspicion,and leaves me with less faith in them than ever.
@Chusid Pride.They made it clear too late.Why did the victims not report back to any rabonim? 1)Did they not trust the tannin would help them? 2)Did they go to rabonim, but we're ignored or shushed?
@@leahblau3333 the בד"ץ ירושלים gave out a letter years ago not to buy his books,and this past June they and reb nissin karelitzs bais din from bney brak gave out a letter again saying hes not a moral man and not to bring his books into homes,there's some more small ones,nevertheless it's extremely puzzling that such a thing went on for so long and he was so strong that almost everyone was afraid of him,it needs answers,it can't happen again
He's right about social workers and therapists not working with the opposite gender. I have my MSW and would never work with women. I've been saying this for years! Thanks Rabbi for going on record with calling out these male therapists that have no problem working with women.
I think that he is wonderful and learned. Why after the fact? How many lives could have been saved if rabbis had acted 15 years before? Why do we live in such an age of fear?
Fear is not of God and yet we have fear. So what do we do then ? Seek the Face of God by reading and studying the good book and ask the ALMIGHTY who he is for our God is the LIVING God and yes the God of ABRAHAM ISAAC and JACOB . IN GOD WE TRUST . I personally know the Messiah and have my trust in the Lord for his name sake . Shalom Selah
my name is GABY LOCK the problem with all these people who went to chaim walder was that they had no trust in there partner in life i was married 45 years to my dear wife a.h. and we never told each other a lie were there is truth there is hashem when there is truth between two people there are no problems this point is not taught to every choson and kallah.
If u think he’s a rasha then why have you not put up posters and warnings for people not to go to him? To have him kicked out of his shul? To have his books banned until he takes responsibility and repents?
44:44 “You take his mother etc.” This is based on Proverbs 10:1 “A wise son makes a father glad, but a foolish son is the grief of his mother.” Malbim comments, “Her loving relationship with her son has served to protect him from the discipline and wholesome rigors of the father’s education; she is responsible if he chooses a life of vice.”
Interesting. Probably the rabbis talked about disgracing the mother so as to provide a deterrent, which today may have lost its clout. Rabbi Meiselman seemed to be generalizing from the mother to the rest of the family, which may very well not be valid, especially as they may have also been living in terror of a very violent and manipulative person.
@@markbr5898 Being that the Rambam is a Rishon like Rashi, each word is carefully chosen. So the eternity of his words are based on a concept and not advice which comes and goes. There are many places in Proverbs that speak about the mother’s power to build and destroy her home. For instance, Proverbs 1:8 “My son, heed the mussar of your father, and do not forsake the Torah of your mother.” I ask the following questions: 1. Torah should come before mussar 2. It should say Torah of your father 3. How do you know if the mother’s Torah is true? I suggest the following answer: The Torah of the mother is conditional on the mussar of the father. Meaning, when the mother lets the father do his disciplining then her Torah is true.
Me and Nachum Tzvi.Did you make that up off the top of your head? Why should the fathers Torah be 'more' true-we can't even leave the child's lineage up to the father.And in past generations and even becoming more common today there are countless women who through tragedy,war or other reasons are left to educate the next generation,and we're doin ok.It's been well documented that in times of challenge men give up/die first.Just sayin.
The 10 COMMANDMENTS still STANDS , if not in the eyes of men it is in the eyes of the Lord our God the Almighty . May God bless Israel the remnant. Amen
It is inappropriate to insinuate that because Walder was a לא יוצלח in yeshiva it’s no surprise that the allegations turned out to be true. Isn’t the lesson finally clear?? That one must be judged by actions, not affiliations or type. There are plenty of charedi “torah-learned” people who have committed similar crimes.
I think his point was Walder was a fraud who acted like he was a Torah sage of a charedi kind. He was pointing to the image Wlader created and saying his life was a big lie.
Chudidhar Pride.No? C'mon how you know? Btw this gentleman would die from horror of he knew he was on the Shmutzerdik internet.aaaaaaaaagh.So do him a favour and stop commenting if you're such a big supporter.
Efrat Bruck.If there's one teensy weensy lesson to be learned from this giant mess is...don't be sweet talked into anything that doesn't sit right with you.Trust your gut.R'Meisleman meant what he said,what you heard.Chas Vesholom were a Meisleman to veer off the well trodden path and forge his own route, I get the feeling Zaide would have him ex communicated.Nu,so he must feel like CW is family.You have to stay positive.
I wish I could sit down and talk to this man in person , Oh LORD God I Love him and rabbi Shidduchim Jerusalem because he Loves your Law Oh Lord GOD . Save Israel that seeks your Face . Our Country is in dire trouble but I do know One who will deliver us from the mouth of the lion but who will ask us seeing we are despised and rejected . ISRAEL BELONGS TO THE JEWS PEOPLE AND HAD BEEN COMMANDED NOT TO ALLOW IT TO BE DIVIDED PERIOD . Selah Shalom
Walder accumulated power because he provided a service that in the shtetl is undervalued and overneeded: professional and empathetic talk therapy. Instead of saying "I told you so -- I always knew it!" and quoting knee-jerk reactions from the shtetl against talk therapy, Gedolim like Meiselman should create professional oversight and institutional safeguards against abuses of privilege.
Tonight, I told someone in the kehillah here about a rabbi, who is unethical and who has responsible positions in the community and was found by the Bes Din to be unethical. But this person I was speaking with might buy one of his tefillin or mezuzot or buys some of the meat that he schechted. Should I reveal who this person is or keep it to myself. Rabbi Belsky would not hire him as "he is not religious" and his ex wife insisted that he is not religious, but the Bes Din would not publicize his kefira nor would they insist that he do teshuva for his horrendous aveiros, which they wrote about in a psak. Sad but true. This person unethically destroyed my family. This person is a Talmid Chachom, but everything he learned has not penetrated.
@Dovid Holybrother Anyone who acts the way you describe is _not_ a talmid chochom. Being a talmid chochom includes lilmod u'l'lameid, lishmor v'la'asos.
Yeah I think I know who you're talking about. If it's the same "family" I think it is then I can assure you it's a very unfortunate situation that the community protects such Rasha'im.
I'm so glad I heard this. This truly gave me a better perspective on this episode as well as areas in my life. I will be disposing of my CW books. There's one thing that bothers me: If there were red-flags in CW's books which multiple Rabbonim saw and recognized, why didn't they group together and warn the tzibbur of these red flags and that the books should not be brought into our house?? Yes, many people would scoff, but most families of Yir'ei Shomayim would have taken heed.
Well... We're living with facts people victimize and are guilty, but we're also living inba generation inwhich people cry victim and create victims and the person accused is not guilty. Now, I wasn't attached to this case at all, so I know nothing about whether the accused was guilty or innocent. The rav wants to bring the spacifics and say the guy was literally a wicket man. I'll say from a distance, perhaps the rav is right, perhaps wrong, I don't know. I don't like the direction though, I do not believe the rav has ever been in a situation that everyone is viewing you as a rasha, this can put the mind in a certain irrational place that one could believe he's not going to get a fare judgment no matter who he goes to. To say we had a beis din and he wouldn't go and that shows his guilt, I'm not sure is correct. Perhaps the other points are to overwhelming that show his guilt, but that one point I was somewhat in disagreement with. I personally was involved in a case that people were yelling rasha! the truth though is those that were yelling rasha were completely incorrect and therefore rashaim themselves! This point of stating explicitly "He was for sure a rasha marusha" I'm also in disagreement with, perhaps the rav is in the know about this spacific case. But I know from this other case that people can accuse an innocent person and with everyone screaming "that's a wicked man over there!" I do not agree in the least with this mahalich in speech or thought! We end up with the innocent being created into the guilty. Now sure, there are guilty people out there, but to stamp one has wicked is incorrect wordage that will also be used on the innocent. Perhaps the other actions of the person can lead one to believe this is an incorrect person, yet the person would never even think to do the action thought on him. The lashon used is disturbing to me.
Thinking on it abit more. The guy never got infront of a proper beis din. Yes, he choose, but even so, you don't have the actual court case and the gamar din. Yes, that was this mans choose not to go through with it. Even so, you don't have the jewish court case. I think it's abit of a jump to say he was vadi a rasha mirushah even if the rav has knowledge of the case. The man wrote that he was requesting a heavenly judgment since he felt he couldn't get a fare judgment in this world. The rav is disregarding this as another and final manipulation of the accused, guilty man. Now once again, I'm not near the case at all. But perhaps the man believed that, according to things he had already heard from known rabbiam, he wouldn't get a proper judgment in the beis din either. Therefore he did this terrible act of removing himself from the world. Perhaps he did it because his life developed in a certain way that there was no other way he could live now that people had the view of him they did. Felt that no matter what, they're going to view me as guilty and he didn't see any other way he could exist in the world. That was his place and now it was gone. There was no beis din. Not necessarily proper to call him a rasha mirushah on the point of the accusation. Perhaps other points. But I'd side to say, he stated in the suicide note a comment of innocents, perhaps he was on this matter. There was no beis din, the rav is giving a bias to call him a rasha on the matter of the accusation.
Unless you want to go in the direction that all accused are guilty, you have to be willing to lean on the fact that false things can be stated on one that appears to be a good target. Potentially because certain actions they do that are misinterpreted or the such.
How did he get there? How did a Muslim extremist rise to the rank of Major in the Army, as a psychiatrist, destroying lives of soldiers filled with guilt and PTSD be enabled to gun down 11 soldiers in formation. It's because everyone in the beginning kept quiet or only kept their objections in a tight circle.
Suicide is a terrible crim indeed but even though King Saul did just that along with his arm bearer when they fell upon their own sword so that they wouldn't fall into the hands of the Palestinians . But even he , God still SAVED believe it or not by the LAMB of God that was to come people for the LORD said : I WILL HAVE MERCY UPON WHOM I WILL HAVE MERCY . God bless ISRAEL and God bless King David who said I see the LORD always before my face for he knew me before I was even born in my Mothers Womb. Selah
I have similar questions and issues to what others have brought up. There are some deep disturbing answers but no one wants to hear them. The basic premise is that there is a deep deep chasm in charadie daas Torah society. I have recorded a video on this. But have yet to put it out and don’t know if I will. It’s mind blowing to watch brilliant talmidai chachamim have so much cognitive dissonance and get things so wrong. At least Rav Meiselman got it right on the point that he is a Rasha. But so many deeply disturbing issues, problems and questions on so many other things he says. I had so much hope when I started this video and he has a certain charisma and is certainly brilliant Torah scholar. But as he dropped in some subtle and then not so subtle ideas, I left feeling heart broken and empty.
Thank you very much Rabbi Meiselman , that is a very good , rational, step by step presentation of the case, and how reason, halacha, empirical evidence, and expert opinion of dayanim, come together for good. , and lehavdil, Walder on the other hand, is lies, evil, resha, pure falsehood for its own sake.
At first I was impressed but then it became simple to me that a Rav who speaks this way is a Roshe Meroshe but when he mentioned Shmuel Oirbach as evidence it all made sense! 80% of the information he’s bringing as evidence is not true, the Dayonim did not speak with the women, they heard third party testimonies from 2 women who gathered the information. The women who committed suicide was suicidal for a long time, her best friend confirmed that the night before they spoke for hours where she hinted suicide but not spoken a word about the suicide of Mr Valder. The letter of suicide was confirmed as fake! I’m not justifying the man nor his actions, however this Rav is not one I would want my kids to take lesson from! His fact are wrong, his heart rock and his mind rot! His eyes glow when he talks of how to shame the other, and looks as a horny predator when he mentions “whip” as the icing on the cake 😂🤷♂️ Sick man! I am ashamed to be “so called” part of this community, it’s mind blowing how narcissistic he is and how dirty his mind and mouth is!
YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOREVER. YOU SPEAK OF GADOLI HADOR LIKE A PLAYTHING. YOU SHOULD SERIOUSLY LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND THEN WHILE YOURE AT IT DO WHAT CHAIM W DID FOR SPEAKING ABOUT A GODEL LIKE THAT!!!
Meiselman mischaracterizes the situation as hashkafic so he can say, “I told you so, but my hashkafa is foolproof!” The consequences to this lie can harm many seeking emotional support. Walder sexually exploited youth after providing a service unknown to the shtetl: emotional support books for kids. His sins have nothing to do with any hashkafa. Meiselman seems to see faulty hashkafa everywhere because he wants you to follow his.
@@leahblau3333 What a nonsense, unlike Christianity, Judaism encourages questioning things. If you say what you wrote then you have a very skewered view of Judaism. Honest question should always be asked. One of the adages I grew up with is: "The only stupid question is the question that is not asked!" Even questions in emunah (provided they are honest NEED to be asked. Sometimes there are simple answers and sometimes the question can not be answered to be understood on our level.
Chusid Pride.Or perhaps sadly I'm older and wiser in the ways of the world than thee. Leo Wise.I appreciate your positive approach to life.Good for you. Its time to be realistic though.Lives at stake here!
@Chusid Pride what do you gain by being rude to someone? Are you intelligent enough to explain your difference in opinion with out putting the person down
@@leahblau3333 I agree, it definitely is a very serious matter that should not be shoved under the rug. But, it seems that the halachah is that we can not out and out condemn a person when this is being said. Rabbi Meiselman shlitah says that anybody who thinks different from him must have skipped that particular Rambam in Hilchos Sanhedrin. But when I hear that Rabbi Gershon Edelstein has reservation then I would start thinking that he probably has a reason why that Rambam does not apply to the supposed perpetrator. Oh, definitely the people who are victims should be supported tooth and nail.
I don’t know much about this man (Rabbi). I do remember hearing that he’s brilliant. But, do you hear how he asks (we don’t see who, child, bachur?) for a Rambam with no please and no thank you? Just saying…
Daniels vision of Jesus Christ 👇🏾 Daniel Chapter 7:13 13“I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him. 14Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, Which shall not pass away, And His kingdom the one Which shall not be destroyed.
Voice of reason he is not. even a broken clock is right 2 times ever 24 hours. . he says he knew about his crimes 20 years ago?!?!? and he did nothing?!?! how is that? then he goes on drop pearls of wisdom.. "he did not have much of a yeshiva background" "he went to the army" "which is not what the elite of the yeshiva world does." "men should NEVER be therapist for woman" he then goes on to blame smart phones.... he is wrong on ALL accounts besides getting one thing right, Chaim Walder was a Rasha. these Rabnim even when they land on the right side of an issue can't help themselves from sprinkling in some nonsense here and there.
Seems like he wasn’t a fan of Walter books nothing to do with the author, but with the philosophy behind them, his attack that Walter is not a Ben Torah is absolutely disgusting, as if if someone is not a Talmud Chacham then they are less of a yid. Notwithstanding the above, Walter is clearly evil, as it is clear that he is not an innocent man
Why the Israel’s police didn’t Investigate and closed all complaints you don’t know what you talk you’re an American & you don’t have no דעת תורה this צפת אליהו is a רב. מטעם not Worth nothing look of a clip from him were Boys and girls are dancing together
Chusid Pride. We shall assume you meant CW wasn't a registered therapist.Is that true? Bc it's a criminal offence to pose as a therapist if not registered.Or did you mean regulated? In what sense then? Also you commented on CW being 'immortal'....Considering the conversation I am puzzled as to how would this be possible?
Chusid Pride.FYI & anyone else who reads this; posing as a registered therapist or even advertising oneself as such when not registered is totally a criminal offence in many countries.Important to know for many reasons and something many heimish clients are unaware of.It's always important to ask regarding therapists qualifications,know which board they belong to and who their supervisor is.For your own safety.
HEY RABBI'S I HEARD YOU BEEN LOOKING FOR GOD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND YOU ARE STILL LOOKING. I FOUND GOD AND IT ONLY TOOK ME 33YRS TO FIND THE MOST HIGH AND I FOUND HIM ALL ALONE. LUCKY FOR YOU THERES NO NEED TO SEARCH FOR GOD BECAUSE HE'S COMING FOR YOU.
the biggest mistake is giving this menuval the honor of dealing with him in terms of torah wasting words of torah on him is like wasting the day trying to kasher a pig
אני חייב לשאול את הרב , א. הרב אומר שהעד לא שונא אותו כל המקור מכתב של עיתון הארץ רבינוביץ שיש לו חשבון אם אבא שלו שפוטר מהיעתון יתד נאמן, ב. הרב אליהו לא פגש ולא חקר את 22 נשים ורק נסמך על כתב העיתון, ג. הב"ד לא הזמין אותו לבדוק את העניין אלא רק שיתנצל,
The Bais Din heard directly from witnesses, and considered lots of other evidence. See the statement put out by Lishkas HoRav Shmuel Eliyahu: The Halacha requires us as Rabbanim (rabbis) to act against people who defile Beit Yisrael (the House of Israel). This involvement is not done with conventional parameters of Beit Din (rabbinical court) and we are not required to accept testimony before the defendant. Even more so when he regularly threatened women and they feared him. Despite this, we checked, investigated and questioned thoroughly. Witnesses testified that he committed adultery with married women for many years and they were forced to divorce because they were prohibited from their husbands. We saw rulings from other Batei Din (rabbinical courts) about these issues and supported the findings with additional unanimous evidence. In addition, we heard recordings in his own voice that attest to serious immoral acts, and we found him guilty without a doubt. Although it was clear to him that he was destroying homes and causing Jewish families to be hurt and become tamei (impure) he continued this behavior without stopping for a moment. We heard testimonies about 22 women and girls whom he assaulted, and there is no doubt that these cases are just a small fraction of the evil that he did. The Torah teaches us to treat Walder’s actions with the same severity as if it was murder. “For as a man will stand up against another man and murder him so is this thing.” Such acts bring anger upon Klal Yisrael (the People of Israel), evil decrees, and prevent our prayers from being heard. According to Halacha (Jewish Law) we are allowed to publicly lash him, threaten him, and humiliate him. We may remove him from being a shliach tzibbur (leader of public prayers) and stop him from teaching Jewish children. In addition to many other things that are not customary today. We don’t do these things [in these days], but we are still obligated to stop him. If we don’t warn the public about his actions and he continues, the blame will be on us, chalilah (God forbid). Due to the great responsibility on us to stop this [behavior] from happening in the future, we were forced to stop these abominations. We called upon Walder to take upon himself a path of teshuva. We sent people to convince him to repent, in order to prevent a huge Chilul Hashem (desecration of God’s Name) when his actions became public. Instead of repenting, he chose to threaten us through his messengers, just as they tried to threaten Rav Yehuda Silman shlit”a who paskened (ruled) that people to remove Walder’s books from their homes. It’s a pity that he doesn’t (didn’t) surrender and follow a path of teshuva (repentance).
Jim Werther. 'Witnesses testified he committed adultery' errr yes really? Witnesses are only witnesses if they actually witnessed the spectacle.Or were they perhaps 'hearsay witnesses'? That's a little loophole botei din tend to fall back on occasionally in time of need in our little world of lies.
Jim Werther.I'm bored of your picking on me.No one cares what you believe so you are free to do what you want.Every man has his hour but this is not yours.Neither you,nor myself ,nor R'Eliyahu knows the real truth.The only thing that matters is all of this going to change the future? And what has anybody done to stop history repeating itself? Loud silence eh?
Deuteronomy 18: 18-20 18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth,and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. This prophet like Moses is Yeshua of Nazareth. Moses freed Israel from slavery of Egypt, Yeshua freed us from slavery of sin. Moses turned water into blood, Yeshua turned water into wine. Moses split the sea, Yeshua walked on the sea. Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah.
Hes not a roitzaiach all of you speakers and spreaders are roitzchim, he could of finished off the people that were hurting him, the complainers and shmuel aliyshu, he had a loaded shoot machine, my wish would be that he had done that, but he didnt, he took his own life out of bitterness for what you cruel people did to him, he was clearly not in his right mind, he is muchzik as a full yiray shamayim, there is no nemunis to these ladies what so ever, we must learn mishnayois for his mishima and talk only good, all of u that are making him for a bad man are gonna be severely punished from heaven
@@GeorgeBrooks22 Suicide is indeed very serious, but still after many, maney years of Gehinnom he will still have a cheilek oilam habo. And that is assumed that he was not mentally ill beyond help.
A foreshadowing of Jesus Christ 👇🏾 Numbers 21: Then they journeyed from Mount Hor by the Way of the Red Sea, to go around the land of Edom; and the soul of the people became very discouraged on the way. 5 And the people spoke against God and against Moses: "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread." 6 So the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and many of the people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, "We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against you; pray to the Lord that He take away the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people. 8 Then the Lord said to Moses, "Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live." 9 So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived.
All of you are blood thirsty, did you finish giving shiurim on hilchois kashruth? Why is everyone jumping on this story? He is not your eved, he is not your dog, he is your brother, so please shtoik
@@eschwartz3531 there is nothing as bad for society as murder, suicide is not different (maimonides,check out הלכות סנהדרין פרק כד הלכה ה,he's very clear that in a case where it's known by the public even if it wasn't verified bais din should shame him and his family... you can think your smarter than maimonides...it's says a lot about you
@@eschwartz3531 that's what our Torah says. But if you believe In some new testament so you walked away from your religion, dont you all claim that "victims" commit suicide, so we have reb c w who committed suicide, so I quest hes the victim that 22 predators molested
Well said. All of it. A voice of reason in turbulent times. Thank you Rabbi Meiselman.
@Nosson Rossman Hi!
@@shalomeli1
It sounds like you didn't listen to this speech at all
Thank you for bringing clarity.
Every person should listen to this speech.
Wow. This makes me believe in God and the Torah again
Really? I don't believe in God ans the Torah because of what a rav do or doesn't. They are human beings, I don't worship human beings. That's idolatry.
As I said, it makes me believe in god and the Torah. Not in this Rav. And I believe it’s ok for a Jew to inspire another; there is no idolatry in that.
@B K right!
@Yar T this guy just said he believes and G-d and the Torah again, and you said he’s guilty of avoida zora? Just trying to understand…??
What made you stop believing in God in the first place?
Rav Moshe Meiselman. Is the most genuine spiritual leader that one could ever hope to find! His greatest strengths lie not only in his mastery of every genre of Jewish sacred literature, but also in his humility and faithful service to the Rebbe. That a doer of evil has been shown to exist, leaves him with the duty that he has shown for many decades , to execute with a profound devotion & attention to detail.
Mazal Tov.I
He didn't execute anyone.To be precise it's suicide under discussion here.
@@leahblau3333
You misunderstood the OP's comment
excellent excellent excellent speech
Wow. This was eye opening
I'm only half way through but this Rav is saying that many people knew about Chaim walder and continued about their ways, allowing victims to be tormented?? They knew and did nothing ?!??!?!
I just watched this piece and had the same reaction. Why is everyone so happy to hear him now? Where were our rabbonim when things were bad already way back when? Why has this been muted from them for so long? We need rabbonim that speak out for us before terrible tragedy of such magnitude. We don’t need so much pain to get opinion. Now that he committed suicide im happy he can’t hurt anyone anymore. But how does that help for the future? Can the rabbonim find a way to catch this earlier? There’s gotta be something to learn from this
This was very powerful and eye opening about the whole situation.
I don't understand why it was kept quiet 20 years ago? Can someone please explain that to me? Also, the fact that he went to the Israeli army as proof that he's not a good person is confusing to me. Can someone please explain?
He just meant instead of learning several years in Yeshiva, he decided to go to the army. That didn't make him a bad person it just means he wasn't a scholar who learnt for many years. You can't become a surgeon after being in medical school for a couple of years. The person could nevertheless be a good person.
Excellent questions! There are some deep disturbing answers but no one wants to hear them. The basic premise is that there is a deep deep chasm in charadie daas Torah society. I have recorded a video on this. But have yet to put it out. It’s mind blowing to watch brilliant talmidai chachamim have so much cognitive dissonance and get things so wrong. At least Rav Meiselman got it right on the point that he is a Rasha. But so many deeply disturbing issues, problems and questions on so many other things he says. I had so much hope when I started this video and he has a certain charisma and is certainly brilliant Torah scholar. But as he dropped in some subtle and then not so subtle ideas, I left feeling heart broken and empty.
Most of the Hasidic gedolsi hador we’re against them all the time, included the Aida hachradis! But the other gedolim .. didn’t listen to them.
@Chudidhar Pride.
Yes,well is to be unethical not a crime in situations such as this?
Chusid Pride.The lines are not clear at all.It's just a case of legalities.
hold on....why no screaming question of why didn't the chareidi Rabbis do something when the rumors started surfacing 20 some years ago?!!!
Ruby and Linda Wolbromsky.
I asked that several times in my comments on Rabbi YY Jacobson RUclips speech on this.They got deleted.Hmmmm.
So then why did all the rabbonim who knew he was a rasha gamur for many years NOT do more to remove such a mashchis from public life?? All those broken nefashos for what?
Zackdoc.Not one of the bigwig Meisleman supporters on here can answer that directly.Very ineresting.
Rav Meiselman says that people knew years ago that something was wrong with Walder. So why didn't they raise their voices then?
There is a difference between knowing something is off with someone and knowing that they abuse children
Aaron Ross.
None of these good rabbis said a word till Walder was gone which raises a bit of suspicion,and leaves me with less faith in them than ever.
@Chusid Pride.They made it clear too late.Why did the victims not report back to any rabonim?
1)Did they not trust the tannin would help them?
2)Did they go to rabonim, but we're ignored or shushed?
Chusid Pride.Ha.'Justice was denied' in this case too.Your response is incredibly lame.I really expected better from one who knows so much.
@@leahblau3333 the בד"ץ ירושלים gave out a letter years ago not to buy his books,and this past June they and reb nissin karelitzs bais din from bney brak gave out a letter again saying hes not a moral man and not to bring his books into homes,there's some more small ones,nevertheless it's extremely puzzling that such a thing went on for so long and he was so strong that almost everyone was afraid of him,it needs answers,it can't happen again
He's right about social workers and therapists not working with the opposite gender. I have my MSW and would never work with women. I've been saying this for years! Thanks Rabbi for going on record with calling out these male therapists that have no problem working with women.
I think that he is wonderful and learned. Why after the fact? How many lives could have been saved if rabbis had acted 15 years before? Why do we live in such an age of fear?
Fear is not of God and yet we have fear.
So what do we do then ? Seek the Face of God by reading and studying the good book and ask the ALMIGHTY who he is for our God is the LIVING God and yes the God of ABRAHAM ISAAC and JACOB . IN GOD WE TRUST . I personally know the Messiah and have my trust in the Lord for his name sake . Shalom Selah
If you new this man was a danger 15 years ago why did you do nothing about it then?
He’s brilliant and a genuine talmid chocom...
Wolfgang Kleiber.
Yes,but maybe not such a people's person.
Kind of puzzling as a rav is dealing with people a lot.
He's not a sefer Torah.
that's a "talmid chocom," m/oron?
@@johnsmith-mi7fb Yes.
@@wolfgangkleiber5759 what's a "talmid chocom," i/diot g/oy?
Baruch Hashem we still have Rabbonim like this one in our days
דברים כדורבנות. שיעור חשוב.
קשה היה לשמוע על כך שגדולי הדור ידעו על מעשיו כבר לפני 15 שנה ולא עשו דבר כדי לעצור את האכזריות הזו.
יישר כח!!
my name is GABY LOCK
the problem with all these people who went to chaim walder was
that they had no trust in there partner in life
i was married 45 years to my dear wife a.h.
and we never told each other a lie
were there is truth there is hashem
when there is truth between two people there are no problems
this point is not taught to every choson and kallah.
Chusid Pride.d
Yep.Old pals.No guesses why.
If u think he’s a rasha then why have you not put up posters and warnings for people not to go to him? To have him kicked out of his shul? To have his books banned until he takes responsibility and repents?
44:44 “You take his mother etc.” This is based on Proverbs 10:1 “A wise son makes a father glad, but a foolish son is the grief of his mother.” Malbim comments, “Her loving relationship with her son has served to protect him from the discipline and wholesome rigors of the father’s education; she is responsible if he chooses a life of vice.”
Me and Nachum Tzvi.
So if you think he's guilty do you want to dig him up and go shout at his mother? Like... What's the point here?
@@leahblau3333 Let me clarify. I wasn’t commenting on CW but why the Torah uses the mother and not the father in connection with this son.
Interesting. Probably the rabbis talked about disgracing the mother so as to provide a deterrent, which today may have lost its clout. Rabbi Meiselman seemed to be generalizing from the mother to the rest of the family, which may very well not be valid, especially as they may have also been living in terror of a very violent and manipulative person.
@@markbr5898 Being that the Rambam is a Rishon like Rashi, each word is carefully chosen. So the eternity of his words are based on a concept and not advice which comes and goes. There are many places in Proverbs that speak about the mother’s power to build and destroy her home.
For instance, Proverbs 1:8 “My son, heed the mussar of your father, and do not forsake the Torah of your mother.” I ask the following questions: 1. Torah should come before mussar 2. It should say Torah of your father 3. How do you know if the mother’s Torah is true?
I suggest the following answer: The Torah of the mother is conditional on the mussar of the father. Meaning, when the mother lets the father do his disciplining then her Torah is true.
Me and Nachum Tzvi.Did you make that up off the top of your head? Why should the fathers Torah be 'more' true-we can't even leave the child's lineage up to the father.And in past generations and even becoming more common today there are countless women who through tragedy,war or other reasons are left to educate the next generation,and we're doin ok.It's been well documented that in times of challenge men give up/die first.Just sayin.
חזק ואמץ! שפתיים יישק, משיב דברים נכוחים!
The 10 COMMANDMENTS still STANDS , if not in the eyes of men it is in the eyes of the Lord our God the Almighty . May God bless Israel the remnant. Amen
Thanks for posting
Measured, bold, clear. Appreciated.
It is inappropriate to insinuate that because Walder was a לא יוצלח in yeshiva it’s no surprise that the allegations turned out to be true. Isn’t the lesson finally clear?? That one must be judged by actions, not affiliations or type. There are plenty of charedi “torah-learned” people who have committed similar crimes.
I think his point was Walder was a fraud who acted like he was a Torah sage of a charedi kind. He was pointing to the image Wlader created and saying his life was a big lie.
Chudidhar Pride.No? C'mon how you know? Btw this gentleman would die from horror of he knew he was on the Shmutzerdik internet.aaaaaaaaagh.So do him a favour and stop commenting if you're such a big supporter.
@Efrat Bruck
That's _not_ what Rabbi Meiselman said.
@@jimwerther he's insinuating it.
Efrat Bruck.If there's one teensy weensy lesson to be learned from this giant mess is...don't be sweet talked into anything that doesn't sit right with you.Trust your gut.R'Meisleman meant what he said,what you heard.Chas Vesholom were a Meisleman to veer off the well trodden path and forge his own route, I get the feeling Zaide would have him ex communicated.Nu,so he must feel like CW is family.You have to stay positive.
Yes he was. But after he lost a son and committed suicide was it really necessary to put this on RUclips. Please take it down.
I wish I could sit down and talk to this man in person , Oh LORD God I Love him and rabbi Shidduchim Jerusalem because he Loves your Law Oh Lord GOD . Save Israel that seeks your Face . Our Country is in dire trouble but I do know One who will deliver us from the mouth of the lion but who will ask us seeing we are despised and rejected . ISRAEL BELONGS TO THE JEWS PEOPLE AND HAD BEEN COMMANDED NOT TO ALLOW IT TO BE DIVIDED PERIOD . Selah Shalom
Very sad how folks in positions of authority abuse children
Walder accumulated power because he provided a service that in the shtetl is undervalued and overneeded: professional and empathetic talk therapy. Instead of saying "I told you so -- I always knew it!" and quoting knee-jerk reactions from the shtetl against talk therapy, Gedolim like Meiselman should create professional oversight and institutional safeguards against abuses of privilege.
We needed such a disaster to hear your opinion now? Why wait for tragedy to have your opinion? We need real leadership that will prevent tragedy
I wish there were a transcript as I didn’t understand everything the Rabbi said.
Don't worry, neither did he.
best of luck in learning the English language, r e t a r d
Tonight, I told someone in the kehillah here about a rabbi, who is unethical and who has responsible positions in the community and was found by the Bes Din to be unethical. But this person I was speaking with might buy one of his tefillin or mezuzot or buys some of the meat that he schechted. Should I reveal who this person is or keep it to myself. Rabbi Belsky would not hire him as "he is not religious" and his ex wife insisted that he is not religious, but the Bes Din would not publicize his kefira nor would they insist that he do teshuva for his horrendous aveiros, which they wrote about in a psak. Sad but true. This person unethically destroyed my family. This person is a Talmid Chachom, but everything he learned has not penetrated.
Reveal his name so we know not to eat hechsher!
@Dovid Holybrother
Anyone who acts the way you describe is _not_ a talmid chochom. Being a talmid chochom includes lilmod u'l'lameid, lishmor v'la'asos.
@Chusid Pride
Thank you. I heard that from Rav Meir Fulda zt"l. Kol ho'omer dovor b'shem omro mevei g'uloh l'olom.
Jim Werther.
Very good,keep it up⭐
Yeah I think I know who you're talking about. If it's the same "family" I think it is then I can assure you it's a very unfortunate situation that the community protects such Rasha'im.
I'm so glad I heard this. This truly gave me a better perspective on this episode as well as areas in my life. I will be disposing of my CW books.
There's one thing that bothers me: If there were red-flags in CW's books which multiple Rabbonim saw and recognized, why didn't they group together and warn the tzibbur of these red flags and that the books should not be brought into our house?? Yes, many people would scoff, but most families of Yir'ei Shomayim would have taken heed.
Red flags like what?
Rabbi Meiselman is a Chasuve Talmid Chacham
Well... We're living with facts people victimize and are guilty, but we're also living inba generation inwhich people cry victim and create victims and the person accused is not guilty. Now, I wasn't attached to this case at all, so I know nothing about whether the accused was guilty or innocent. The rav wants to bring the spacifics and say the guy was literally a wicket man. I'll say from a distance, perhaps the rav is right, perhaps wrong, I don't know. I don't like the direction though, I do not believe the rav has ever been in a situation that everyone is viewing you as a rasha, this can put the mind in a certain irrational place that one could believe he's not going to get a fare judgment no matter who he goes to. To say we had a beis din and he wouldn't go and that shows his guilt, I'm not sure is correct. Perhaps the other points are to overwhelming that show his guilt, but that one point I was somewhat in disagreement with.
I personally was involved in a case that people were yelling rasha! the truth though is those that were yelling rasha were completely incorrect and therefore rashaim themselves! This point of stating explicitly "He was for sure a rasha marusha" I'm also in disagreement with, perhaps the rav is in the know about this spacific case. But I know from this other case that people can accuse an innocent person and with everyone screaming "that's a wicked man over there!" I do not agree in the least with this mahalich in speech or thought! We end up with the innocent being created into the guilty. Now sure, there are guilty people out there, but to stamp one has wicked is incorrect wordage that will also be used on the innocent. Perhaps the other actions of the person can lead one to believe this is an incorrect person, yet the person would never even think to do the action thought on him. The lashon used is disturbing to me.
Thinking on it abit more. The guy never got infront of a proper beis din. Yes, he choose, but even so, you don't have the actual court case and the gamar din. Yes, that was this mans choose not to go through with it. Even so, you don't have the jewish court case. I think it's abit of a jump to say he was vadi a rasha mirushah even if the rav has knowledge of the case. The man wrote that he was requesting a heavenly judgment since he felt he couldn't get a fare judgment in this world. The rav is disregarding this as another and final manipulation of the accused, guilty man. Now once again, I'm not near the case at all. But perhaps the man believed that, according to things he had already heard from known rabbiam, he wouldn't get a proper judgment in the beis din either. Therefore he did this terrible act of removing himself from the world. Perhaps he did it because his life developed in a certain way that there was no other way he could live now that people had the view of him they did. Felt that no matter what, they're going to view me as guilty and he didn't see any other way he could exist in the world. That was his place and now it was gone. There was no beis din. Not necessarily proper to call him a rasha mirushah on the point of the accusation. Perhaps other points. But I'd side to say, he stated in the suicide note a comment of innocents, perhaps he was on this matter. There was no beis din, the rav is giving a bias to call him a rasha on the matter of the accusation.
Unless you want to go in the direction that all accused are guilty, you have to be willing to lean on the fact that false things can be stated on one that appears to be a good target. Potentially because certain actions they do that are misinterpreted or the such.
best of luck in learning the English language, m/oron
the rabbi is so sane.
How did he get there? How did a Muslim extremist rise to the rank of Major in the Army, as a psychiatrist, destroying lives of soldiers filled with guilt and PTSD be enabled to gun down 11 soldiers in formation. It's because everyone in the beginning kept quiet or only kept their objections in a tight circle.
Suicide is a terrible crim indeed but even though King Saul did just that along with his arm bearer when they fell upon their own sword so that they wouldn't fall into the hands of the Palestinians . But even he , God still SAVED believe it or not by the LAMB of God that was to come people for the LORD said : I WILL HAVE MERCY UPON WHOM I WILL HAVE MERCY . God bless ISRAEL and God bless King David who said I see the LORD always before my face for he knew me before I was even born in my Mothers Womb. Selah
How do I get in touch with this Rav?
מלשני בסתר ריעהו אותו אצמית, כבר כרתו דוד ברוח הקודש יכרת השם שפתי חלקות , too you and the others that spoke this birabim
I have similar questions and issues to what others have brought up. There are some deep disturbing answers but no one wants to hear them. The basic premise is that there is a deep deep chasm in charadie daas Torah society. I have recorded a video on this. But have yet to put it out and don’t know if I will. It’s mind blowing to watch brilliant talmidai chachamim have so much cognitive dissonance and get things so wrong. At least Rav Meiselman got it right on the point that he is a Rasha. But so many deeply disturbing issues, problems and questions on so many other things he says. I had so much hope when I started this video and he has a certain charisma and is certainly brilliant Torah scholar. But as he dropped in some subtle and then not so subtle ideas, I left feeling heart broken and empty.
What ideas?
If this was known all those years ago, then it should have been stopped then.
Also, how does being gay have anything to do with being a molestor? 🤷♀️
Thank you very much Rabbi Meiselman , that is a very good , rational, step by step presentation of the case, and how reason, halacha, empirical evidence, and expert opinion of dayanim, come together for good. , and lehavdil, Walder on the other hand, is lies, evil, resha, pure falsehood for its own sake.
@middlemanscaggs.
Your post was a little confusing.Are you calling R'Meisleman a monster?? Oh dear.This is getting out of hand.
@@leahblau3333 nope, Chas shalom. I said the dayanim are the good guys, and walder was the monster.
Middlemanscaggs.Duhh.Now you've made it even worse.
@@leahblau3333 why is that? Don't you understand basic English?
Free Palestine.
The message is Kidush Hashem
thanks , does rav meiselman have family in israeli i can talk to
At first I was impressed but then it became simple to me that a Rav who speaks this way is a Roshe Meroshe but when he mentioned Shmuel Oirbach as evidence it all made sense!
80% of the information he’s bringing as evidence is not true, the Dayonim did not speak with the women, they heard third party testimonies from 2 women who gathered the information.
The women who committed suicide was suicidal for a long time, her best friend confirmed that the night before they spoke for hours where she hinted suicide but not spoken a word about the suicide of Mr Valder.
The letter of suicide was confirmed as fake!
I’m not justifying the man nor his actions, however this Rav is not one I would want my kids to take lesson from!
His fact are wrong, his heart rock and his mind rot!
His eyes glow when he talks of how to shame the other, and looks as a horny predator when he mentions “whip” as the icing on the cake 😂🤷♂️
Sick man! I am ashamed to be “so called” part of this community, it’s mind blowing how narcissistic he is and how dirty his mind and mouth is!
In all seriousness, I hope you seek professional help, as it is obvious that you have significant issues.
YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOREVER. YOU SPEAK OF GADOLI HADOR LIKE A PLAYTHING. YOU SHOULD SERIOUSLY LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND THEN WHILE YOURE AT IT DO WHAT CHAIM W DID FOR SPEAKING ABOUT A GODEL LIKE THAT!!!
Come on, Rabbi, don't hold back. Tell us what you _really_ think.
Meiselman mischaracterizes the situation as hashkafic so he can say, “I told you so, but my hashkafa is foolproof!” The consequences to this lie can harm many seeking emotional support.
Walder sexually exploited youth after providing a service unknown to the shtetl: emotional support books for kids. His sins have nothing to do with any hashkafa. Meiselman seems to see faulty hashkafa everywhere because he wants you to follow his.
Erev Rav
The last thing u dreamed, so why did u talk this?
Amazingly said but I couldn’t enjoy it cuz of the banging on the table every second !!!!!!!!
Lol! It wasn't _that_ distracting. PS - The good Rabbi would certainly not approve of your thumbnail.
How was he in a locked room with a woman?
Rella R.
It was a mistake,the door got stuck.
How could I speak to the rabbi I have questions
@John Walker! No questions allowed.Are you not a man of the faith?
@@leahblau3333 What a nonsense, unlike Christianity, Judaism encourages questioning things. If you say what you wrote then you have a very skewered view of Judaism. Honest question should always be asked. One of the adages I grew up with is: "The only stupid question is the question that is not asked!" Even questions in emunah (provided they are honest NEED to be asked. Sometimes there are simple answers and sometimes the question can not be answered to be understood on our level.
Chusid Pride.Or perhaps sadly I'm older and wiser in the ways of the world than thee.
Leo Wise.I appreciate your positive approach to life.Good for you. Its time to be realistic though.Lives at stake here!
@Chusid Pride what do you gain by being rude to someone? Are you intelligent enough to explain your difference in opinion with out putting the person down
@@leahblau3333 I agree, it definitely is a very serious matter that should not be shoved under the rug. But, it seems that the halachah is that we can not out and out condemn a person when this is being said. Rabbi Meiselman shlitah says that anybody who thinks different from him must have skipped that particular Rambam in Hilchos Sanhedrin. But when I hear that Rabbi Gershon Edelstein has reservation then I would start thinking that he probably has a reason why that Rambam does not apply to the supposed perpetrator.
Oh, definitely the people who are victims should be supported tooth and nail.
Do Jews have ministries?
Wasn’t he distraught too?
Isn’t the eishis ish also culpable?
לשון הרע!
Now we're going to start hearing about the therapist Dovid Lichtenstein from borough park. The stories are unreal.
???
@@dovidschwartzberg475 want me to go into detail?
@@YG-kk4ey yes
Not the billionaire?!
@@Richard-ze9hh no! The therapist from Borough park/Brooklyn
I don’t know much about this man (Rabbi). I do remember hearing that he’s brilliant. But, do you hear how he asks (we don’t see who, child, bachur?) for a Rambam with no please and no thank you? Just saying…
Daniels vision of Jesus Christ 👇🏾
Daniel Chapter 7:13 13“I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.
Nah.This one is a guy called Meisleman from Israel.
וביארתם את הרע מקרבך!
Who r u
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
The key of the pradice aljanah is la ilaha ila alah Mohamed rasoul alah islamic religion
Rabbi meiselman seems like gshmake rov
למה לא מענישים אותו?
Because he's dead?
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
مفتاح الجنة لا اله إلا الله محمد رسول الله دين الإسلام والله سبحانه وتعالى جعل فوزناوفوز الأنس والجان فقط بدين الاسلام
إستمر في الحلم. اليهودية هي الدين الحقيقي وعلى عكس الإسلام تعتقد أن الناس يمكن أن يكونوا صالحين دون الحاجة إلى أن يكونوا يهودًا.
What does this speech accomplish?
Voice of reason he is not. even a broken clock is right 2 times ever 24 hours. . he says he knew about his crimes 20 years ago?!?!? and he did nothing?!?! how is that? then he goes on drop pearls of wisdom.. "he did not have much of a yeshiva background" "he went to the army" "which is not what the elite of the yeshiva world does." "men should NEVER be therapist for woman" he then goes on to blame smart phones....
he is wrong on ALL accounts besides getting one thing right, Chaim Walder was a Rasha.
these Rabnim even when they land on the right side of an issue can't help themselves from sprinkling in some nonsense here and there.
He is entitled to his opinion even if you disagree.
@Chusid Pride
And Gest N. also misunderstood or misrepresented Rabbi Meiselman's thoughts in other ways as well.
@Chusid Pride
Seems that way
Another pious self-serving, name-dropping, self-promoting Rabbi. Where were you when all the abuse was occuring?
Umm, how should he have know about it?
Seems like he wasn’t a fan of Walter books nothing to do with the author, but with the philosophy behind them, his attack that Walter is not a Ben Torah is absolutely disgusting, as if if someone is not a Talmud Chacham then they are less of a yid. Notwithstanding the above, Walter is clearly evil, as it is clear that he is not an innocent man
Dude you missed the boat completely
Who’s “Walter,” r e t a r d?
The books were by children why do they need to mention a sky god?
Why the Israel’s police didn’t Investigate and closed all complaints you don’t know what you talk you’re an American & you don’t have no דעת תורה this צפת אליהו is a רב. מטעם not Worth nothing look of a clip from him were Boys and girls are dancing together
Chusid Pride.
We shall assume you meant CW wasn't a registered therapist.Is that true? Bc it's a criminal offence to pose as a therapist if not registered.Or did you mean regulated? In what sense then? Also you commented on CW being 'immortal'....Considering the conversation I am puzzled as to how would this be possible?
Chusid Pride.Yes this is probably true- as it's coming from G-ds second in command.
Chusid Pride.FYI & anyone else who reads this; posing as a registered therapist or even advertising oneself as such when not registered is totally a criminal offence in many countries.Important to know for many reasons and something many heimish clients are unaware of.It's always important to ask regarding therapists qualifications,know which board they belong to and who their supervisor is.For your own safety.
HEY RABBI'S I HEARD YOU BEEN LOOKING FOR GOD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND YOU ARE STILL LOOKING.
I FOUND GOD AND IT ONLY TOOK ME 33YRS TO FIND THE MOST HIGH AND I FOUND HIM ALL ALONE. LUCKY FOR YOU THERES NO NEED TO SEARCH FOR GOD BECAUSE HE'S COMING FOR YOU.
the biggest mistake is giving this menuval the honor of dealing with him in terms of torah
wasting words of torah on him is like wasting the day trying to kasher a pig
one must not say lashon hara about a dead man
One MUST put out the truth about this rasha
Jim Werther.
Why? Don't you think if there's an issue They'r efficient enough in the Next World? Relax, They can manage fine without your help.
@Chusid PrideOnly G od can judge not us
@@GeorgeBrooks22 שולחן ערוך סימן תרו
Learn Torah sometimes ...
אני חייב לשאול את הרב , א. הרב אומר שהעד לא שונא אותו כל המקור מכתב של עיתון הארץ רבינוביץ שיש לו חשבון אם אבא שלו שפוטר מהיעתון יתד נאמן, ב. הרב אליהו לא פגש ולא חקר את 22 נשים ורק נסמך על כתב העיתון, ג. הב"ד לא הזמין אותו לבדוק את העניין אלא רק שיתנצל,
The Bais Din heard directly from witnesses, and considered lots of other evidence. See the statement put out by Lishkas HoRav Shmuel Eliyahu:
The Halacha requires us as Rabbanim (rabbis) to act against people who defile Beit Yisrael (the House of Israel). This involvement is not done with conventional parameters of Beit Din (rabbinical court) and we are not required to accept testimony before the defendant. Even more so when he regularly threatened women and they feared him.
Despite this, we checked, investigated and questioned thoroughly. Witnesses testified that he committed adultery with married women for many years and they were forced to divorce because they were prohibited from their husbands. We saw rulings from other Batei Din (rabbinical courts) about these issues and supported the findings with additional unanimous evidence. In addition, we heard recordings in his own voice that attest to serious immoral acts, and we found him guilty without a doubt.
Although it was clear to him that he was destroying homes and causing Jewish families to be hurt and become tamei (impure) he continued this behavior without stopping for a moment. We heard testimonies about 22 women and girls whom he assaulted, and there is no doubt that these cases are just a small fraction of the evil that he did.
The Torah teaches us to treat Walder’s actions with the same severity as if it was murder. “For as a man will stand up against another man and murder him so is this thing.” Such acts bring anger upon Klal Yisrael (the People of Israel), evil decrees, and prevent our prayers from being heard.
According to Halacha (Jewish Law) we are allowed to publicly lash him, threaten him, and humiliate him. We may remove him from being a shliach tzibbur (leader of public prayers) and stop him from teaching Jewish children. In addition to many other things that are not customary today.
We don’t do these things [in these days], but we are still obligated to stop him. If we don’t warn the public about his actions and he continues, the blame will be on us, chalilah (God forbid). Due to the great responsibility on us to stop this [behavior] from happening in the future, we were forced to stop these abominations.
We called upon Walder to take upon himself a path of teshuva. We sent people to convince him to repent, in order to prevent a huge Chilul Hashem (desecration of God’s Name) when his actions became public. Instead of repenting, he chose to threaten us through his messengers, just as they tried to threaten Rav Yehuda Silman shlit”a who paskened (ruled) that people to remove Walder’s books from their homes. It’s a pity that he doesn’t (didn’t) surrender and follow a path of teshuva (repentance).
Jim Werther.
'Witnesses testified he committed adultery' errr yes really? Witnesses are only witnesses if they actually witnessed the spectacle.Or were they perhaps 'hearsay witnesses'? That's a little loophole botei din tend to fall back on occasionally in time of need in our little world of lies.
Zak Singer.Who made what up?
@@leahblau3333
I should distrust HoRav Eliyohu and believe your story instead? Really now.
Jim Werther.I'm bored of your picking on me.No one cares what you believe so you are free to do what you want.Every man has his hour but this is not yours.Neither you,nor myself ,nor R'Eliyahu knows the real truth.The only thing that matters is all of this going to change the future? And what has anybody done to stop history repeating itself? Loud silence eh?
Deuteronomy 18: 18-20
18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth,and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.
This prophet like Moses is Yeshua of Nazareth.
Moses freed Israel from slavery of Egypt, Yeshua freed us from slavery of sin. Moses turned water into blood, Yeshua turned water into wine. Moses split the sea, Yeshua walked on the sea.
Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah.
The one who followed after Moshe was Joshua son of Nun. Nothing to do with jc.
Hes not a roitzaiach all of you speakers and spreaders are roitzchim, he could of finished off the people that were hurting him, the complainers and shmuel aliyshu, he had a loaded shoot machine, my wish would be that he had done that, but he didnt, he took his own life out of bitterness for what you cruel people did to him, he was clearly not in his right mind, he is muchzik as a full yiray shamayim, there is no nemunis to these ladies what so ever, we must learn mishnayois for his mishima and talk only good, all of u that are making him for a bad man are gonna be severely punished from heaven
Don't forget to daven for Yaravam ben Nvat afterwards. I'm sure he was just "misunderstood", right? Just like your hero Walder was.
חיים וואלדער ימח שמו
I think you should be careful writing such things. Even an avaryon still will have Oilam Habo.
@@leowise206 He was a rasha merusha! I don’t know who you are, but if this bothers you, maybe you’re also a rasha merusha 😉
Shlomy Rosen.
Nah,he claims to be a Ger Tzedek some time back but is anyone who they say they are...
@@yossifelder6775
Not sure if "ymach shmo" automatically applies to every rosho m'rusho. Ask your local orthodox Rabbi before posting.
@@GeorgeBrooks22 Suicide is indeed very serious, but still after many, maney years of Gehinnom he will still have a cheilek oilam habo. And that is assumed that he was not mentally ill beyond help.
Why does anyone have to hear this loshon hara I clicked on this video to let people know don't watch it its loshon hara at its worst!
Well, you're wrong. Sorry!
I'm ignorant @zak singer just because I don't want to hear this loshon hara?
@@GeorgeBrooks22 really
@@GeorgeBrooks22 shame on you for listening to this loshon hara!
@@GeorgeBrooks22 shame on you for listening to this loshon hara!
A foreshadowing of Jesus Christ 👇🏾
Numbers 21: Then they journeyed from Mount Hor by the Way of the Red Sea, to go around the land of Edom; and the soul of the people became very discouraged on the way. 5 And the people spoke against God and against Moses: "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread." 6 So the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and many of the people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, "We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against you; pray to the Lord that He take away the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people. 8 Then the Lord said to Moses, "Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live." 9 So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived.
False, see Hosea 11:9
All of you are blood thirsty, did you finish giving shiurim on hilchois kashruth? Why is everyone jumping on this story? He is not your eved, he is not your dog, he is your brother, so please shtoik
Not all pee Torah at all,shame on you
No we will not be silenced by you who want to justify suicide and pretend no one was abused.
@@eschwartz3531 there is nothing as bad for society as murder, suicide is not different (maimonides,check out הלכות סנהדרין פרק כד הלכה ה,he's very clear that in a case where it's known by the public even if it wasn't verified bais din should shame him and his family... you can think your smarter than maimonides...it's says a lot about you
@@eschwartz3531 that's what our Torah says. But if you believe In some new testament so you walked away from your religion, dont you all claim that "victims" commit suicide, so we have reb c w who committed suicide, so I quest hes the victim that 22 predators molested
@@estymendyr8175 I think you did not understand what I wrote. I was telling Jack I will speak out against suicide and abuse.
Americanized brain, not aal pee torah