How The Forest Was Made and Why The Indie Game Looks AAA
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- Опубликовано: 25 дек 2022
- This The Forest documentary details the development of indie survival horror game The Forest and goes behind the scenes of its creation. Discover more about developer Endnight Games and its team of people who have a background in visual film effects. The spark that ignited the idea behind The Forest came from director Ben Falcone, who was frustrated with modern games and their endless backlog of missions and bothersome NPCs. The documentary also explores all the design decisions that Endnight Games made and shows how it was inspired by Disney movies.
It also takes a close look at all the hurdles the studio had to go through. Slowly expanding their small team with talented people mainly from the film industry took more effort than they initially thought. Additionally, the team’s goal of making the world and its characters look as realistic as possible was only achievable by adding a lot of custom addons for Unity, their game engine of choice. The decision to further develop The Forest in Early Access on Steam was initially troublesome, but ultimately made for a much better game thanks to all the ideas and contributions from the community. Furthermore, their vision for enemies with a complex and intriguing AI that adapts to the player’s choices, took years to perfect. Lastly, the documentary takes a look at what’s next for Endnight Games and what’s happening with The Forest’s sequel titled Sons Of The Forest.
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Ark: Survival Evolved!!
Five nights at freddys
@@GorkaGames its not a indie game
The cook serve delicious series!
Or spiritfarer
The AI is what got me hooked on this game. The cannibals are hungry but they don't just mindlessly attack you. They will follow you and wait until your back is turned or you're busy doing something. Or they'll just check you out and run off (to get others).
If you stare at them, back away, or run, they get aggressive. But if you pull out an axe and charge them they legit shit their pants and run away.
It's frankly so much better than every other NPC AI I've ever encountered.
Just wait till you see the AI of Sons of the Forest
@@avishekchakraborty8289 I was about to say that lol
It’s even more insane when you realize the game is 5 GB
Been playing over a hundred hours and just finally put together that the warrior males use the women accompanying to test your own aggressiveness, and will give you less of a hard time if you go through the effort of trying to not hurt them and just distance yourselves as the women harass you. The warrior male just stands back, watches, and their overall behavior adjusts accordingly.
@@MrSen4lifE :O
I'm not sure if it was an older version where that information is from, but in The Forest how it exists today the NPCs most definitely respawn. There is no limited amount of them, which you could "kill while they are sleeping".
Yeah it's only the cave npcs that are finite.
@@Pacowaka4045 Make sense because you can clear out the caves.
@@Pacowaka4045 they will respawn eventually though
Unless he is meaning that they don’t just spawn at your location but they follow set paths around the map meaning there is technically a limited amount on the map at one time
@@nnnik3595 surface enemies are infinite whilst cave enemies are finite
Endnight is amazing, i also heard the reason they don't interact with the fans much, once the forest got big, is that they don't want to be celebrities. They're incredibly humble, and are probably my favorite game developers.
I like Re-logic
@@Pappycap74 W endnight W re logic
@@Pappycap74 same
cant forget about their interactions with staple content creators of their game whove logged thousands of hours (Farket) for opinions and ideas. any dev that interacts with their pro scene (or experienced players in this instance) shows they care about making their game a better game
Gotta remember: when you're a celebrity and washed up, your standing in society is less than that of a regular Joe's. I think they were smart to know this.
My biggest props to them for absolutely optimizing the game, unlike your average 20GB RTX3090 3D survival game, it's like 4GB and can run perfectly in an Intel HD Graphics if you lower the resolution a bit.
I really think that helped a lot with its popularity, making it a big contender for your go-to PC co-op game 👏👏
Yes, I just now realised that The Forest an open world, full of shaders, enemies, weapons, mechanics and so on game weights less than AimLab. I really respect the work they put into optimization while still having great mechanics and lovely graphics
massive W for them
The game gets super super laggy the more you build and progress
Yeah, I have played it many times through the years in really bad pcs and it rocks
@@TriangularChica why is aim lab more than 4gb?
No game has blown my mind as the forest. The first time me and a friend played it we thought the difficulty was broken, but it turned out the cannibals got quite provoked by us building a fort near them decorated with the heads of their friends. We were the bad guys all along. Amazing emergent storytelling.
I never saw it that way I just killed anything in sight and killed mutants for armor
"The first time me and a friend played it we thought the difficulty was broken" Bruh I literally quit the game when I first got it for this whole ass reason. It took me growing up a little to appreciate how genius it really was. Definitely set my bar higher for what to expect from games now.
Yeah the poor innocent cannibals, I should let them eat me
@@latinaparfait its the CIIIRCLE of LIIIIIFE
No, you are not the bad guys, in the begining, you are a victim of plane crash,the cannibals are mutated and they murder and eat each other .
wow i didn’t know the forest was an indie game that’s impressive!
I didn’t even know it existed lol
@@tomohawk2177 woah
I already knew this 😪
@@tomohawk2177 how
plague tale is also indie, another double a/indies games: stray, senua sacrifice
I still remember these two devs. In 2013, A friend of their (who was also in the same college I was attending), uploaded this to the campus network drive - the render farm. I downloaded the pre-alpha. It was brutally hard. No saves. But demonstrated potential.
What were your thoughts about the game when you first played their pre-alpha game?
@@pmfieryflakes5749 Unlit lighting, lagging mess, and brutally difficult game. Two lives and you have to restart the game. Did not even know where to go.
@@OnyeNacho haha, even now bro, endnight is brutally glitchy, lol I guess some things never change
@@crubrutockcsgo I guess so...
isnt that kinda the point of crash landing into a forest? like youve never been there, how would you know where to go? kinda adds to the realisim
That whole "who is the real monster" thing really stuck out to me in the newest sons of the forest game. I was exploring the beach and came across a camp, a killed a few dudes by lighting them on fire and then after they burned a woman cannibal walked over, got on her knees and started to weep. I felt so awful even though they attacked me first. Very few video games have ever done this to me.
I have no remorse for them they destroy my builds so I destroy them until I feel sad
The intent behind how you kill the canibals made me feel like a psychopath I never cared about how the canibals felt ☠️
i love how the team wanted to make things as realistic as possible but you have tropical ocean fish swimming in tiny puddles of water in the middle of the forest or mountains
And a crocodiles in a temperate forest setting lol. And yes, crocodile. NOT alligator. Hate it when creators don't know the difference. Don't even get me started on Lyle Lyle Crocodile, which should be called Lyle Lyle Alligator.
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@@pippetandpossum in a game with mutant virgina monsters that doesn't really matter
🤓☝ technically
"they also consciously opted for monsters that were genetically enhanced and not zombies or supernatural"
I'm guessing the flying physics sausage monster doesn't count lol
Yeah, they said they regretted doing that mutant, but it was added on the last version tho, till that point it wasn't like that
This is by far my favorite survival game and I'm so happy to see it covered on this channel
The Forest, atleast at the time of release, was outstanding, from graphics (like the godrays and water), to its physics, to its grass, and AI, it was amazing! And they did a fantastic, nearly flawless job with The Forest. Though it probably won't be an indie game, or considered an indie game, you should cover Sons of The Forest when it comes out this February!
Edit: this may be controversial to say but I think they almost completely 'failed' with making you feel guilt killing them (or I'm psychotic), but they hang and mutilate things, specifically people, they rip out their hearts and throw them around without eating them, they aren't curious with you, only a little in the beginning.
(Btw before anyone says "they also shot down your plane", they didn't, that was the red guy AKA Matthew Cross, he's not a cannibal)
(I promise I'm not being biased because I'm Canadian and they are too)
Yeah I agree, although I was shocked by the violence needed to kill them, it more often than not felt like I was protecting myself rather than maliciously attacking them in a way that might cause me to feel guilt
I get a little too zealous when I see one alone so you make a good point
Yeah I’ve never felt the slightest bit of guilt for killing them no matter how brutal it is. They attack first and do some really fucked up shit like stuffing tennis balls in corpses. I think it’d be worse to not kill them tbh
@@aubreyh1930 it does kinda depend on the player if they attack first, but I'd agree that they attack first more (specifically mentioning seeing them for the first time, not the cave ones)
@@BarelyBarry wow, just because you are too dense to understand the moral implications it doesn’t make the game bad at communicating them.
Great video, as usual. Stories like these make me appreciate the value of early access. I can't help but wonder if Hytale would really benefit from an early access period, as many are clamoring for.
Thank you! It's interesting Endnight opted for a traditional development approach for the sequel. Curious how that's going to impact the game and its reception.
Hytale really needs an early access. They need to do something to keep people interested until the release. But since they're not even able to put out regulary blogposts chances are near 0
Oh wow, oops- I had totally forgotten about Hytale until now.
This was the first game i ever bought on steam back in 2014. My crappy laptop at the time could barely function with this running but it was exactly the kind of game i wanted to play. Today after years of updates and playing on and off i finally found Timmy, January 2nd 2023. it took nearly a decade but i found him.
I remember being in middle school in 2015 and playing this with my brother and cousin. Some of my favorite moments with them are from when we would just play it. We pretty much played it every weekend until I’d say about a month after release. Great times, I cannot wait for sons of the forest to come out so we 3 can make more memories like that
Even though you don't upload that often I always look forward to these videos, they are so well made!
Thank you, glad to hear you like them! Wish I could upload more often 😅
The Forest is one of the games that i enjoyed a little too much.
I liked how cannibals will go away if you do not attack them, or scream and become more violent when the female is killed or their leader
But don't the cannibals and the mutants get more violent anyways as time goes on? I remember our base getting attacked everyday by cannibals and mutants.
@@ia285 If you have beaten the end boss, cannibals become extremly more violent and mutants have higher chance of spawning. More days pass, the higher the chance that mutant will spawn too.
I would chase the cannibals until I ran out of stamina
@@bigg_survivor_8876 Spears are maybe the best weapon in the entire game.
@@ia285 They do. You can try and avoid being violent with the cannibals but they will eventually attempt to kill you after being passive for a time. If you really want to avoid the enemies, you have to build a boat and survive off the islands somehow (which is what I did).
This is one of my top five favorite games ever! It’s a beautiful story of survival that’s told through a graphically stunning world. They absolutely smashed the “two-tone” feel of the game with the awesome environments in the daylight turning scary in the dark. My favorite part of the game is the cannibals, they really did feel more alive than any other NPC enemy I’d seen.
A true modern classic.
Another amazing thing about this game is the optimization. I used to play this game back in like 2015-2016 with my garbage PC that has like AMD A4 processor and some random GPU that I forgot about and the game was playable with like 45-60 fps IIRC. I've also seen videos of people flying smoothly across the map due to some bug without them lagging.
Yeah! I have been always interested in how The Forest was developed and made, thanks a lot man!
My pleasure!
Thank you for these videos!! It's always really interesting to see how indie games are made and the stories behind their developers. It's honestly a huge inspiration!
My pleasure, glad to hear they can serve as inspiration!
very cool that you credited each person who contributed something bc sometimes they don’t get recognition at all :)
Great documentary style video on this game, really glad I found this, wish the forest had more videos done on it like this.
Really appreciate the work and effort that must’ve gone into making this!
Thank you very much, glad to hear you liked the video!
I just realized that these people made tron legacy, one of the best looking films of the 2010s. No wonder the forest even though an indie game looks triple A
wtf
Great stuff as usual. Thanks for digging so deep into the creation of games, especially indie games!
The thing I'm most excited about Sons of The Forest is the new enemy types. The trailers show 2 new creepy mutants that definitely look menacing, but I'm really hoping there's more than just those 2.
The forest vr was the first game to make me feel a genuine moment of panic in a videogame. I don't know if this is a part of their programming but I was walking on the coast and a group of 5 cannibals started to follow me. It was only after I ran out of stamina did they try to surround me. I though, "oh shit they are trying to get behind me." So I put my back to the ocean and fought them.
"We really want the player to feel guilt after each kill"
Me causing a path of death and destruction in my wake, destroying trees, camps and people, because I cannot find the next cave
New to your channel after watching your video on hades. Love your stuff man! Seems like every second of the videos adds to it rather than being there to bulk up runtime. Subscribed 😎
"What we don't want is just mindless killing."
Me and my friends burning bodies by the dozen to fuel our addiction to bone armor.
One of the best doing it Glen :’) Thank your for a new video! 🎉
My pleasure, Daniel! ;)
This channel deserves more attention
Just picked up the forest in prep for sons, and wow. It’s amazing. It’s got me and 6 friends totally hooked, playing late any time we can. Truly a remarkable game.
omg lets go no way you actually made one about the forest, I think u even asked about it back in the day, cant wait to see what you squenched out of this incredible mystery clocked studio called endnight
Cool video man and I like your videos so much :]
these videos always make my day thanks for that!!
My pleasure, comments like yours make my day!
THOSE LADS WERE INVOLVED INTO SUCH ICONIC FILMS AS TRON LEGACY, 300 AND FINAL DESTINATION?! Holy shit! Way to go people! The forest was one of the nicest survival experiences in games i've had in a while , especially in coop.
Great video!!! Really enjoyed watching it and learned quite a bit about one of my favourite games.
Thank you, glad to hear you liked it!
Fell instantly in love with this game, and it just got better and more terrifying the more I played.
I mean the Forrest was released only a few years after GTA5 and Skyrim, but people are still playing the Forrest without complaining about a sequel. Everyone wants a sequel, but it’s a game made almost a decade ago by less people than we put into a middle school classroom. I think this is a win for everyone involved.
Been playing this game since 2016 during early access with a friend and we would eagerly wait for the next update every so often! Great game, amazing soundtrack and incredible AI. Cant wait for the sequel
That four year period of being in early access is what made The Forest great and I fear that Sons Of The Forest will lack that same marinade.
Given the number of times it's been delayed, and the massive increase in studio size, I don't think we have anything to worry about.
@@careernerd2135 I'm sure, I' just saying that the monthly or so updates that rolled out for so long made the game seem new over and over again.
They strike me as a team that even if they call it full release, they'll continue to work on things they feel are imperfect, or issues/suggestions players have post launch. I just hope it will be more polished than the original forest ea release lol
Great video and actually got hyped for their next game and also the forest, which I've just watched but not played myself
I've only played it on my sister's PS4 so I played all night for three days and it was quite an experience!!
I got it on Steam but could not get it to run on my laptop. 😮💨 Hopefully the sequel gets an Xbox release at some point.
Thank you!
What are you waiting for? Go experience it, I recommend it 100%
happy holiday Glen! Also, really impressive content this one!
Happy holidays, Faizal!
69 hours in the forest, never even tried to look for Timmy.
I must admit, how the cannables are so random works SO WELL.
I have become a fan of The Forest and really like how on oodd occasions, they will just stand there, watching.
Other times screaming and wailing in a fit of rage,
and on odd occasions, attacking on site.
Even then they will use tree stumps to get the higher jumps, climb trees to ambush, and use clubs to attack with.
Also how they use the non traditional horror works SO WELL to me.
Like I encountered a Virgiania, those Creeper looking spider humans, in a cave full of corpse babies, and that had no jumpscare, no build up.
Just saw a dead baby then she attacked.
Stuff like that is What I want.
That sense of actual danger, and not just predictable jumpscares, which sure, do get me from time to time, but on the second or third playthrough just feel samey and not scary.
Honestly, 10/10 game
10/10 survival
10/10 horror
sadly 8/10 on the story, as I do not care for Timmy or the lore. I just wanna kill all the cannables for no reason other than just one destroyed my jerky rack, I NEED MY JERKY! Those jerks!
Edir: re reading this I realised it seems a bit... wrong just wanting to kill cannables, but I mean it in the, an entire tribe of people for 1 rack of jerky seems worth it. Just letting you all know.
I'm so excited for Sons of The Forest. My friends & I played The Forest about 3 years ago and it was fantastic. Spamming the jump input next to near-vertical walls to climb to ridiculous places, eating cannibal meat, destroying someone's entire house in a couple of swings of an axe, sliding into the giant pit on a turtle shell, cruising around the island on a huge raft, seeing the cannibals slowly and slowly get more and more agressive over time and then the end of the game sequence which has an incredible build up. The Forest is one of my favourite games I've played and the fact it scales so well in co-op multiplayer makes it even better.
Thank you Endnight and thank you Hat Films for introducing me to the game. :)
"Sometimes I forget that this is a horror game, and then it becomes a horror game _very_ quickly."
-Markiplier
"add a moral dilemma for the player" I remember distinctly a moment with friends where we tore 2 cave cannibals limb from limb and ate them and it was pretty funny bc it was just 5 dudes sitting around a fire munching on legs
man i was so excited when i first heard of this game. kept up with all the trailers. wishlisted it on steam. kept rewatching said trailers, up until the release and i got to watch people play.
thankfully through a couple of streams i was watching, i gotta lucky diceroll on one, and ended up with a free copy. i love this game to death, so much so that i repaid the free copy in kind when multiplayer was added by getting 3 of my other friends hooked lmao. this game deserves all the awards it gets and i CANNOT wait for sons of the forest to release.
Amazing video for a "smaller" channel, as always I am impressed! Gotta comment to help the algorithm
Thank you very much!
I got The Forest recently, I knew it was good but it still surprised me. The devs clearly put a lot of love into it. Can't wait for the sequel.
2:50 That makes sense, this game always reminded me of I Am Legend (the book, not the movie), especially one particular scene in the book when the vampires are outside of Neville's house taunting him and the females even try to sexually tease him. The cannibals in The Forest always reminded me of this type of intelligent taunting behaviour, which is otherwise always lacking in zombie/horror media. Also the way Neville becomes the monster, hated but also feared by the vampires who try to kill him but also avoid him; this also happens in The Forest, where the normal human cannibals often become very reluctant to attack you, even in groups, if you've been killing their scout parties, building effigies and leaving some survivors among them to spread the word.
i did see this as another survival game that took from minecraft like ark, dayz, raft, rust but like it's own take, i've always wanted to check it out thinking it was one of those server only type games, so i thought i needed friends but my friends never wanna, wtf friends i feel like i missed out i should've just bought it in it's prime
"What we don't want is just mindless killing"
-me reloading my crossbow- "Hmm, very interesting."
Sons of the Forest absolutely did live up to the hype. Great game, great sequel, and tons of potential for future content. Can’t wait to see what’s next!
i have played over 500 hours in the forest platinumed the game on playstation and completed it multiple times. this is a very good explanation about the visual effects and ai in the forest.
Truly inspiring this! Sounds like very clever game design.
Endnight is a indie game studio that can seriously compete with AAA big boys, they never focus on making money by scamming people showing scripted footage of the game, they actually make incredible games in such a limited resource and small dev team and their goal is to make the game good which eventually becomes a success and a great point of selling. I am really looking forward to Sons of the Forest, it looks so good.
I get nostalgic just from hearing that melody in the intro.
Glen, I love u bro, these vids really inspire me as a game developer thnx ❤️
My pleasure, happy to hear they serve as inspiration!
@@ThatGuyGlen ❤️
I remember playing the early access. I didn't realize what the scope was at the time. I really just thought it was a little survival game like raft. Really cool where its gone since then
Great video as always! Could you cover Hotline Miami 1 and 2 one day? They're both amazing indie games and would love to see some more info about them.
did you see the noclip documentary on them?
@@zejugames5045 I did, however I was curious how this guy would tackle them as his vids are always high quality and entertaining
Thanks, Nico! Hotline Miami is on my list ;)
@@ThatGuyGlen Awesome, looking forward to it!
i find it hilarious that the main point of the video is talking about how much they put into graphics but the main thing that sticks out to me about The Forest is the low poly rabbit that looks like a sock puppet. I will never forget how the rabbit looks.
End night, shatters their own expectations on release, then shatters everyone's expectations with a vr release being renowned as one of the best vr games to date.
im still amazed how beautiful the game looked, and how big the map is while it's only 5gb
As someone who has played The Forest it really is just mindless killing when my base gets attacked by 15 6ft tall pale men
And also as someone who hunts achievements it is very sad when I dedicate myself to an achievement just for it to not unlock
I still remember when I first played this game, I was walking around and saw one of the cannibals watching me from a nearby hill, it really freaked me out as it was day time and then it ran off and didn't attack
Love your videos
Glad to hear you like them!
Been with this game for ages, since the old days of mostly above ground. Always has been an amazing game and will continue to play and recommend it to mates. Can't wait for Sons of the Forest to blow up the charts!
Indie games are a refresher from all of the AAA mess that we had been through. But that does not mean that some AAA titles are bad. And yea, I remember playing this game when it was in its infancy, as a torrented game of course. But I already bought the legit copy from Steam so there, they deserve some money for how amazing this scary-ass survival game, it is not like any other. Like jeez have you ever customize an effigy made out of body parts. Well that is The Forest.
The Forest is easily one of my most favorite games of all time. Never a dull moment and is always a fun time to play. Amazing all around
I've gotta say though, I get really bothered when games do the "who's the real monster?" thing without giving the player an alternative. :/ I tried The Forest and tried to build a pretty base but the NPCs just came in and ruined it, so I thought I'd just move out of their territory so I wasn't bothering them and could build in peace, but they just kept finding my more and more remote hideaways, until I finally died one time too many while trying to build the same wall over and over so I could get some peace, and quit. :(
that mech design goes hard. I would love to see it being use in other games
loved this game from day 1! glad you covered it. have you ever thought about doing og Silent Hill or Resident Evil?
I might cover those in the future, I’m especially interested in covering Silent Hill. We’ll see ;)
@@ThatGuyGlen Nice! Always excited for new videos! Keep em coming, I love the format!
Im so excited that my first time playing this game is going to be in its completed state, the last time i saw gameplay of this game was before there were even caves lol
speaking of VFX artist turned game dev, *Brandon Laatsch* , who was previously the other 1/2 of the *Freddiew/Rocket jump* channel, started Stress Level Zero which would make Duck Hunt and Boneworks
they just cracked the code for ultimate atmosphere
and good atmosphere just makes a good game!
its more immersive and the more immersive it is, the more you want to play it
but of course, atmosphere consits of EVERYTHING, sounds, visualls, gameplay, animations, ect.
and again, in "The Forest" they just nailed it!
My friends and I obsessed over this game for a hot minute like 2/3 years ago. So much so that I rented a dedicated server for a month for us to hop in and contribute on whenever we wanted haha.
When I saw this game on steam greenlight I was more excited about it than any other game release that I can remember. I remember wondering what other games would be inspired by such a unique game.
Amazing video, made me realise how much I love the forest
Thank you, glad you liked it!
im loving sons so far. the forest was the first horror game i played that actually gave me nightmares LOL. they nailed the atmosphere and the horror aspects they were going for. im so glad they made it co-op as well, i play with my friends and we played a LOT during early covid. it was so fun!
all i did in this game was mindless killing in the forest, me and my friends made a giant compound on half of a small island on the map and has spikes on the outside of those walls and a bunch of traps inside asell as many of those grusome totems on fire sending a message to them.
Great video.
Thank you!
There are still so many bugs like multiplayer log dupe glitch or inventory item dupe glitch. To be honest the game is still really fun to play except the bugs.
Hello again Glenn
Hope you had a good xmas
Thanks, hope you had a good Christmas too!
The Forest was the one and only game i enjoyed the most with my friends, we racked up about 120 hours during the early covid pandemic and enjoyed it really much
I'd like to see a video on The Long Dark. That game has come a long way from the little Early Access indie game on Steam. It's one of my favorite survival games.
Fantástico vídeo, seu nível de produção é impressionante. Muito obrigado por me apresentar esse jogo, eu não conhecia.
Fun fact: the lighting engine in The Forest went through 48 revisions before the final version.
when i found out the devs worked on one of my favorite childhood movies (tron: legacy), i was filled with joy
y'know the killing system thing is making me rethink the way me and my friends played , as we played it like a typical survival game instead of a horror game , like we were kind of just mindlessely killing the cannibals
I didn't pick up the forest for a long time because I'm so used to horror games being shallow and full of cheap tricks. Once I actually started playing I was super pleasantly surprised with the tension and realism.
I’ve played the Forest like 10 different playthroughs but never made it near the end. Its just so fun to mess around with stuff like Turtle shell sleds
Thats super wholesome game process
My dad became a god at the game.
I went into this game some years ago with pretty low expectations as it looked kind of generic going by the screenshots I had seen of it, but was very impressed with it once I started playing it. Looking forward to the sequel.
Man i remember playing this game with my friend, we were scared shitless every time we heard the cannibal's scream in the distance lol
Would be cool if the base npcs could be tamed or give gifts. Maybe have them not like the big npcs or just fear
They added this in sons of the foresr