I had this and other Pluto aspects with someone... it was weirdly toxic but so hard to stop until one day magically... bam I no longer cared... (I was the Venus) I did learn a HELL of a lot though.
@Lindy T oh I hear you. I think no longer cared was a tad exaggerative. I avoid him because I could easily fall back into it but I refuse! He is a special person to me because of the impact he had on my life and strangely I am sure to be gentle and coMpassionate on the odd occasion he makes contact as I sort of feel like I need to be gentle with him. It's bizarre but I don't regret it.
Justin W it was in Hindsight it was for sure but at the time it was everything that meant anything if thT makes sense. (We had moon opp Pluto, mars trinePluto, and Pluto Ascendant stuff he was Pluto in all but the mars Pluto contact) the amount of psychological stuff and obsessive ‘stuff’ I dealt with was unbelievable but so very very worth it. If we hadn’t been 100 percent honest with each other I think it could have been very very bad indeed, for me anyway hahaha.
I've been studying/researching/practicing astrology from age 13 to now and I'm almost in my 40's. You have freewill, you can change any pattern in your chart. You might not be able to change the outside circumstances and karmic happenings, but you can change your inner attunement to this or any pattern in your chart. We come in with Soul and Spirit goals to change our chart, to lift it up, to better ourselves and to grow in love. We do this by using our spiritual Will. Don't be a slave to your chart!
I have this with my siblings and I’ve been estranged from them for the better part of 10 years. They are Xennials (Pluto in Libra) and I have Venus in cancer and Mars in Capricorn. I was punished for not having the same family values and them and any show of independence was used against me. I was insulted for how I looked, controlled, dominated and made to feel powerless. I am Pluto in Scorpio so this never really worked but hey I’m better for it. Mom was a baby boomer (rip) she had me at 43 so I was not coddled like my generation who was born to Pluto in Virgo generation. When I learned about this it hit me like a boomerang. I now understand why I was betrayed and unloved by my siblings and always felt like I didn’t belong. This made me stronger than ever and I’m surprisingly thankful. Sorry for the TMI 😅
Pluto is not just a selfish expression it's also intensity, transformation, so you can have this aspect in a powerful and radical transformation relationship. I had this one with a lot of people but and it doesn't express in the same way with all the people. I had this one, close degree with my first love when i was teenager and he was pluto, i was venus, and he was very very into me, very generous, maybe too much. He didn't take anything from me and he wasn't selfish at all. It was my best love relationship so far. Very romantic. I think that what you say is true in a very scorpio / plutonic person and when the pluto expression isn't good. This guy had a leo moon square pluto natally so t-square with me. My venus/opposite his moon and square pluto and he was sooo romantic it was amazing. He looked at me as if i was an angel, it was crazy (he is cancer btw). So i think it depends. I had a man and his pluto squares his leo sun natally (so sun opposite my venus square his pluto) and he was very very selfish with me, very manipulative. Always taking me when he needed too and after that " byyy" until he came back. A vampire. Very toxic. I suffered a lot. So i think it depends. Maybe a sun or mars squaring pluto in someone is more selfish than a moon squaring pluto, so in synastry the expression depends about how a person lives his own plutonic side i presume.
That's crazy what u described I did with this Libra guy I recently been talking to . I'm the Pluto person . But he was also Pluto in Scorpio. His Venus and mercury conjunct his Pluto . And I'm a Scorpio rising with Pluto on my asc. So his Venus and mercury fell in my first house conjunct my Pluto . Plus Pluto ,Pluto conjunction. But we also had nodal contacts. And 12h synastry. I fell for him the the moment we met . It was definitely karmic. I went above and beyond for him. Never took from him and was just so romantic when it came to him ....I DNT think he appreciated any of it tho. It has to end . I felt like he ended up using me . I broke it off and I'm in a world of heart ache now. The obsession is horrible I can't stop thinking about him . I have Venus square Pluto natally tho.
I want to add something for anyone who's interested. My brother and sister-in-law have this aspect. They've been together 15 years, since highschool, and I've never seen a tighter/stronger relationship. As jewel said, it isn't common but it happens. She is the Pluto person, and she's the more responsible/caring party. Now that I'm thinking about it, he has moon sq Pluto so it might feel good to them. I dunno.
This was really helpful! Thank you for sharing. I was worried about this aspect but it turns out that the both of us have harmonious natal aspects between neptune/pluto and neptune/venus.
The guy I was recently involved with and I both have Venus square Pluto (2.30 orb) Pluto square Venus (3.16 orb) both sides in synastry. But in our composite chart we have Venus conjunct Pluto at 0.22 orb… it is the most intense connection I’ve ever experienced. He felt it too but got scared & ran but still looks for me.. Everything in me wants to be with him. But I’ve given him his space and just let him be. My intuition told me awhile back that he was meant to be in my life. That he is my soulmate or something “big” to me… and I randomly got this confirmed by a clairvoyant, actually that he is my TF. And it all made sense to me… also may I add that hes 10 years younger than me, and is currently going through his Venus conjunct Pluto transit… I understand how Pluto works, and the intensity of this relationship. So I let him be. But know he’s with me no matter what… Also our charts have many many aspects that are very harmonious… so I just don’t worry or obsess about him/things. He has things to work on (as I focus on my spiritual journey) and I simply just let him do what he needs to do, but let him know that I’m here. ❤️
Imagine having this aspect with someone when your Venus is in their 8th house and it squares Pluto. And their Venus squares your Pluto and mars. 🥵 HOT!!!
i have this. My person has their venus in my eigth house in aries (my natal venus is in eigth in aries too) both my pluto and his venus are sesquiquadrates . i have my pluto trine my venus in natal chart though.
Great video :) I clicked on this thinking it was about my natal chart placement, but anyone my age has Pluto square my Venus so it was helpful. Thanks :)
Jewel, I have this aspect with all my close frds (being Venus in synastry ,always) and people I have ever been close too. It's also in my natal chart. It may actually not be the case but I always feel that I give more than I get. But I'm more mature and aware of myself and this aspect now ,so I hope I deal with it better. :)
@Lindy T Thank you very much for replying. I just try to make myself Happy and fulfilled with other things in my life and with who I'm. And I feel now whatever igive , I give it freely now. I don't fear losing them and I believe that you can't control people and u shudn't either and that's how I prevent myself from giving more than I'm capable of. :)
@@lindyt3942I really love the idea that this is an indicator that you have a debt to pay your generation. I wonder how I can embrace it better without killing myself
Wow. I have this with my bf. His pluto squaring my venus. My pluto conj his asc, venus, north node , jupiter within a 3 degree orb. His pluto (scopio) opp my moon . His mars over my asc. My mars over his sun. His uranus and neptune conjunct mine. Its such a tight relationship i cnt even describe it but its absolutely great! And im so greatful to God for it. Its completely codependant but its everything i want from 1 person so i dont need others all that much and the feeling is mutual. Thank u lord ! Synastry really decides what relationship one can have. Intensity is fun . Harmony is great but too much harmony can be boring.
I actually have this affliction in my natal chart, I'm way more comfortable with venus-pluto squares than I am with venus-pluto conjunctions mainly because squares don't advance the relationship (which I prefer) and I'm not that affected because I'm so used to it. Also I've had way too many gross and uncomfortable venus-pluto conjunctions, it just feels wrong manipulative and a bit like violation, extremely unwelcome. Then again I'm not a fan of venus-pluto contacts in general.
It hurts. It is very complex, complicated and exhausting. I worked so so so so hard on myself because of this relationship. Years later there it is again and I am exhausted with the energy. I need a break away from it. Fast. RUNNING AWAY!!!!!! We both have Moon, Venus and PLUTO square and opposition. It dug my heart out to heal again and again then 8 people died suddenly. It prepared me in away but now I am tired and need a break. It's too much shadow work consistently when it should be done in my life. Period. Period Period. I passed that course got the A+ grade and the tshirt.♡ bye.
I have this placement in my natal chart and so does my husband from an Aries chart (no birth time) You can only imagine the marriage but all good now I’ve separated from him 😂
I have moon square Pluto in my birth chart she has Venus square Pluto in her birth chart are Venus and moon are conjunct and we have Venus square Pluto in the synasty we resonate with each other through our darkside. Bless
I know someone who has this in their natal and it explains why they feel so alienated by the concept of me giving them something or being naturally of help (I have Sun in their 6H) without asking for anything in return. The problem is since we're both Pluto in Scorpio generation AND he has Pluto in 7H, his own nVenus square nPluto interacts with my own nPluto and it just feels like I constantly have to battle with his inability to just give without it meaning that his act of giving equals someone always taking from him. His Venus also happens to square my Venus so another karmic issue.
2:55 - yes, the Pluto (Scorpio moon) told me: If you don't give in the sex, I will find other woman to fulfill my sexual desire :) I want to run but it's too late now for me as a Venus :(
What about someone who has Venus square Pluto in their natal chart and also in Synastry with someone? I just met a guy who has it in his natal chart and also his Venus squares my Pluto and as the Pluto person he was the one he was pursuing me. Would that make a difference in our synastry?
The_Sojourner If you have a Venus Pluto square then you have to get used to having this in synastry also because I have this aspect and everyone that I seem to date has a Pluto in a square to my Venus. If his Venus squares your Pluto, then he’s not the Pluto person: you are. It is not an usual for the Venus person especially if he’s a man, to pursue the Pluto person. I have this aspect right now with someone who has been my crush for about a year. I’m the Pluto person and you could say he’s the initiator. Usually it’s the Venus person who is the object of affection at first. Venus is clueless or thinks it is just a phase but can’t help react to the intensity. Pluto is intense. It doesn’t want to be, it doesn’t mean to be but Venus doesn’t stand a chance. She is in the grip of transformation. She’s about to suffer a lot! Well, actually it depends if the natal chart has a Venus Pluto aspect. They could be gucci if Venus is unaspected.
I was the pluto he was the venus, i was so obsessed until one day i realized i was being crossed n disrespected & i just blocked him. Instantly ended that curse but i think he was prob one of my biggest loves
I find it confusing. I have venus square pluto in my natal chart, I felt this kind of connection only with one person iny life, but everyone I meet has the same pluto, it doesn't show up with the whole generation. With much younger people I have venus trine pluto, I heard that it is powerful, but I felt nothing. I mean connection to people who I have strong synastry with, and venus mars contacts. From my experience I feel like squares cause attraction, trines were not felt that strongly
That's why the natal chart is the first thing we analyze before looking into synastries, transits, progressions etc. The same transit that brought a marriage for my friend.. brought nothing significant for me because my natal chart indicates no relationships (natal's chart promise), and that transit is both a heavy, significant one and also one that not all people will be able to experience in their life, Tr. Pluto in 7th H that is.. You having Venus - Pluto square means that people of your generation will find you magnetic/attractive/mysterious in one way or another and some may eventually become obsessive towards you. Because Pluto (the others of your generation) is secretive it won't be an "in your face" attraction. Others feel it but you won't because you are used to its energy since you have it natally, it's already inside you.. For you it means that your relationships will be in general intense, passionate with trust issues, manipulation, possessiveness, pain and jealousy. In order to feel it in synastry, the other person has to activate your Pluto-Venus square, that will happen if a personal planet of his aspects your Venus and Pluto. When you have a hard aspect natally you won't feel softer aspects, or if you do they won't be pleasing/intense/significant enough for you because inside you the energy runs deeper, more intense than that. I'm focusing on this aspect but as I said it's important to analyze natal charts, something else in your natal chart might change/soften the outcome of this aspect for you.
Thank you for explanation. It feels this way, it may be more typical to have intense connections. But my grandmother has that and event though she had tragic live story on her youth, she got married and everything was normal.and there were same generational planeta on synastry. We are not doomed ever. Abd there is some solutions, for example therapy
so Marjorie how it going...I have with with almost everyone in my age group and my ex husband, so it can go beyond marriage, my current bf, which I broke with yesterday (venus retrograde) has his Pluto square my sun, venus , mars and my venus in virgo squares his ascendent and moon, ugh, not sure if we can make it or not...but the passion is off the charts even after 18 months. Otherwise we have a lot of good synastry aspects...he has always wanted to marry me quick, just like ex-husband....thoughts?
@@vazirani123 sounds obsessive from him, my question is what did you feel (like venus, sun or mars) with each of them? intensity? obsessive love? or a healthy love? do you have any aspect natally?
Hello, and thank you very much for the knowledge you are sharing in this video! I want to ask you a question... How do you think a double synastry Venus-Pluto square aspect will influence a relationship? Both aspects are in almost the same degree, and both partners have very aspected Pluto in the natal charts. Do you think the double aspect will balance the things out or it will lead them to extremums? We also have double Saturn trine Neptune at the same degree and Moon trine and sextile Uranus. : )
I, for one, believe that it could cause two people to feel like they met their soul mate, everything they ever needed in a partner. Very deep love they won't get anywhere else. Pluto only gives it's blessing after deep pain though....
Jewel-why is Pluto so mean to Venus? I was Venus, he was Pluto. We dated exclusively for 6 months. Always felt he had the upper hand in everything and punished me by being silent if he didn't get his way or I wanted us to communicate a problem and resolve it in the open. Is Pluto always the heartbreaker?? He just sent me a text this morning saying he can't be with me anymore and refuses to gve an explaination. I am absolutely devestated. I am too nice though....I was honest and said I was heartbroken but wished him the best:(((
hi, the way a relationship plays out involves the whole picture.. you have your own chart/personality.. he has his chart/personality.. you have your synastry connection.. then you have your relationship in action (composite) okay with that said- what is inside his own chart that has rough edges? same for you.. if a person has unresolved hurts and or anger then that will come out in relationships, AND how our personal stuffs plays out is literally different dependant on whom we are with....i.e. parents, friends, coworkers, etc i hope you're feeling better... if someone treats you poorly, let them go.. there are plenty fish in the sea 💓
Ugh I'm female and I'm the Pluto and I became so abusive to him and I've never even been that type of person before something just deep inside me just wanted to destroy him completely cuz I felt that's what he did to me
Pluto has A LOT of deep, repressed fear in general, but especially fear of loss of control and power in relation to others. Pluto is also intensely self focused. In short, people with very strong Pluto's, often have a lot of shadow work and healing to do with themselves. If they can get through it, and transform, they can reach a higher level and become very effective healing faciliators for others, but it's not easy or common for them to do this, unfortunately. This world has a certain pull and effect, and only the strongest or oldest Souls can really break away from and transcend same.
I feel Pluto is a narcissist if Pluto aspect a person’s personal planet is their natal chart. I have had relationships where My moon was in square to his Pluto (in dynasty) square my moon. When I was the Pluto in the synastry - I was obsessed, wanting everything now, wanting the other person to behave how I wanted them too - it was horrible for me and horrible for them... Pluto feels vulnerable and out of control. When a person’s Pluto was in a square aspect to my moon- it was HELL. He had natal sun sq Pluto anyway - and hell was he controlling, nasty, selfish, pressuring, squashing my emotions. I was a codependent doormat (my moon) - I learnt a lot. Very hard to break away from these relationships and a very very long healing process.... very addictive these relationships too... walk away when you can and don’t ever go back... or the manipulative and selfish games will start all over again 🙁😫
@@animalames78 It certainly can represent/symbolize that, but Pluto aspects can also symbolize deep transformation and healing, but which is never easy or pleasant. It really depends a lot on the individuals' entire birth charts, their degree of spiritual maturity, the couple's other life and nonphysical connections, etc. Pluto is not always negative. It's a double edged sword. Edgar Cayce's guidance called Pluto that of consciousness. Pluto represents becoming more aware of the shadow side of life, self, others, etc, for the purpose of spiritual growth, healing, and transformation. Ultimately, it is much like Kundalini, a very powerful, but NEUTRAL force, that can be used for great destruction or great positivity, depending on how you direct/channel it.
His venus conjuncts my Pluto while mine squares his pluto, will this aspect still have this impact? My venus is also conjunct my mars. The intensity is insane and we seem to energize each other when we're together it's very harmonious but something about it scares us both. We can't seem to leave each other but can't seem to let each other in completely. I should also add we're both very plutonic. Scorpio rising, sun, jupiter and chiron in 8th, pluto also conjuncts my asc from the 12th house while he is a sun, venus and mercury scorpio all in his 8th house. Could this aspect be fixed somehow?
What if this is happening only in a progressed synastry chart? Where progressed A’s Pluto is squaring progressed B’s Venus? Same interpretation is the same but only temporary during the time of progression period?
hi! i have a burning question- how does synastry play out in parent child, friends, etc.. is it basically the same? my granddaughter and her mum have Pluto (mum) squaring Venus (child)..
Hello, I have the same placement I'm venus, she's pluto.. unfortunately it's been 13 years that we don't have any ties anymore. IT'S SAD COZ SHE'S MY MOTHER I was very close to my Grandma and I consider her my Mom coz she raised me.. my mom left me wen I was young.. She was even jealous that I'm close with her own mother which is my Grandma. the few times we've spent each other IT WAS TOXIC How's is it going with ur Daughter n Grandaughter..??..
@@fancylyrics. her mum is an intense person, granddaughter loves both her parents- though, i can see a rift between mum & daughter.. many things have happened to cause this that i prefer to not air.. life goes on ❤
My partner and I have sun sextile pluto double whammy, his moon square my pluto, my venus square his pluto, my mars conjunct his pluto, and Jupiter sextile Pluto double whammy. Also his chiron is exact my ascendant, and my chiron is opposite his Pluto. His Saturn is conjunct my descendant and his moon falls in my 12th house, conjunct Ceres. I need help
Hello Jewell, Does a pluto 24 degrees 1st house, to venus 0 degrees cancer (10th house) make this synastry aspect? I think it's 85 degrees (still considered a square according to what I've read) I had this aspect with my ex but feel it again with someone else but not an exact 90 degree square. Thank you 🌸
I had this aspect 2 times with 2 men, i always was the venus. with the love of my life, i felt obsessed about him, i felt like he crushed mt life. And it is intereating now someone is madly obsessed with me abd i don t feel the same. Thoigj with this 2nd person i have sun pluto square where am the sun.
Ok so I want to have just a slight disagreement. I think that it can be very gentle and selfless. I have moon square Pluto. Everyone in my generation that has Venus square Pluto has their Venus opposite or conjunct my moon. It IS a friction, but I find with emotional understanding, it becomes one of the sweeter 'bittersweet' aspects. Both people, if mature about their own chart, will treat each other very tenderly and openly. It's not easy in the slightest, but it does dig right down to heart of what connects two people. Aggressively, but the nectar is there, nonetheless. If you choose to share that passion, pain, and generosity instead of hide and fight, both people will experience a form of love that, according to their birth chart, they were never promised and that they feel they desperately need down to their bones.
it can be. it's not an aspect that is a genuine match. they are imcompatible in a fundamental level. square means it's not the right match. not soulmate.
i had this aspect with a pervert rapist and pedophile. he was the pluto. i was 13 and he was 35. i did not want him and was not attracted at all but he took control over me.
i have never been attracted to venus square pluto synastry. it always felt wrong or off to me. this must appeal either to kinky ppl or users/predators. it was always one sided attraction but i never felt attraction either as venus or pluto because i have an ethical soul that is turned off by corrupt dynamic
Been both the Venus person and the Pluto person. I hate this aspect, a strong attraction that's inevitably doomed.
I had this and other Pluto aspects with someone... it was weirdly toxic but so hard to stop until one day magically... bam I no longer cared... (I was the Venus) I did learn a HELL of a lot though.
@Lindy T oh I hear you. I think no longer cared was a tad exaggerative. I avoid him because I could easily fall back into it but I refuse! He is a special person to me because of the impact he had on my life and strangely I am sure to be gentle and coMpassionate on the odd occasion he makes contact as I sort of feel like I need to be gentle with him. It's bizarre but I don't regret it.
@@emjay3344 Sounds like a very karmic connection. You worked out what was needed to be worked out, and there is no more need for the connection.
Justin W it was in Hindsight it was for sure but at the time it was everything that meant anything if thT makes sense. (We had moon opp Pluto, mars trinePluto, and Pluto Ascendant stuff he was Pluto in all but the mars Pluto contact) the amount of psychological stuff and obsessive ‘stuff’ I dealt with was unbelievable but so very very worth it. If we hadn’t been 100 percent honest with each other I think it could have been very very bad indeed, for me anyway hahaha.
@@emjay3344 I don't have anything to add friend, just wanted to let you know that I read your reply, and wanted to thank you for sharing.
I have the Venus Square Pluto in my birthchart, so I can't escape it anyway. 😒😂
SAME LOL
Me too
I've been studying/researching/practicing astrology from age 13 to now and I'm almost in my 40's.
You have freewill, you can change any pattern in your chart.
You might not be able to change the outside circumstances and karmic happenings, but you can change your inner attunement to this or any pattern in your chart.
We come in with Soul and Spirit goals to change our chart, to lift it up, to better ourselves and to grow in love. We do this by using our spiritual Will.
Don't be a slave to your chart!
Sophia S Saaaaaaame
@@justinw1765 thanks that's a good advice for a teenager
Very painful aspect
Extremely
Painful for Venus or Pluto??
I have this with everyone from my generation and I can't escape it in relationships. It sucks
Caity DeVries same. I fucking hate it too!
same
How can you have it as it is a personal planet with everyone in your generation?
@@empress_highpriestess3307 because pluto moves so slowly.
@@meredithr9824 but the synastry aspects only work with close orbit, under 3-4 degrees????
I have this with my siblings and I’ve been estranged from them for the better part of 10 years. They are Xennials (Pluto in Libra) and I have Venus in cancer and Mars in Capricorn. I was punished for not having the same family values and them and any show of independence was used against me. I was insulted for how I looked, controlled, dominated and made to feel powerless. I am Pluto in Scorpio so this never really worked but hey I’m better for it. Mom was a baby boomer (rip) she had me at 43 so I was not coddled like my generation who was born to Pluto in Virgo generation. When I learned about this it hit me like a boomerang. I now understand why I was betrayed and unloved by my siblings and always felt like I didn’t belong. This made me stronger than ever and I’m surprisingly thankful. Sorry for the TMI 😅
This is very sad. I'm sorry. Part of growing up and learning is realizing that the way we look at things will change the circumstances.
Pluto is not just a selfish expression it's also intensity, transformation, so you can have this aspect in a powerful and radical transformation relationship. I had this one with a lot of people but and it doesn't express in the same way with all the people. I had this one, close degree with my first love when i was teenager and he was pluto, i was venus, and he was very very into me, very generous, maybe too much. He didn't take anything from me and he wasn't selfish at all. It was my best love relationship so far. Very romantic. I think that what you say is true in a very scorpio / plutonic person and when the pluto expression isn't good. This guy had a leo moon square pluto natally so t-square with me. My venus/opposite his moon and square pluto and he was sooo romantic it was amazing. He looked at me as if i was an angel, it was crazy (he is cancer btw). So i think it depends. I had a man and his pluto squares his leo sun natally (so sun opposite my venus square his pluto) and he was very very selfish with me, very manipulative. Always taking me when he needed too and after that " byyy" until he came back. A vampire. Very toxic. I suffered a lot. So i think it depends. Maybe a sun or mars squaring pluto in someone is more selfish than a moon squaring pluto, so in synastry the expression depends about how a person lives his own plutonic side i presume.
Leo suns are usually selfish🤮🤮🤮
@@kirstenkim5011 And it's worst when this Leo sun squares pluto scorpio... Uuugh!
@@alexandra.8912 🤮🤮🤮
That last sentence 👏👏👏
That's crazy what u described I did with this Libra guy I recently been talking to . I'm the Pluto person . But he was also Pluto in Scorpio. His Venus and mercury conjunct his Pluto . And I'm a Scorpio rising with Pluto on my asc. So his Venus and mercury fell in my first house conjunct my Pluto . Plus Pluto ,Pluto conjunction. But we also had nodal contacts. And 12h synastry. I fell for him the the moment we met . It was definitely karmic. I went above and beyond for him. Never took from him and was just so romantic when it came to him ....I DNT think he appreciated any of it tho. It has to end . I felt like he ended up using me . I broke it off and I'm in a world of heart ache now. The obsession is horrible I can't stop thinking about him . I have Venus square Pluto natally tho.
I want to add something for anyone who's interested. My brother and sister-in-law have this aspect. They've been together 15 years, since highschool, and I've never seen a tighter/stronger relationship. As jewel said, it isn't common but it happens. She is the Pluto person, and she's the more responsible/caring party. Now that I'm thinking about it, he has moon sq Pluto so it might feel good to them. I dunno.
This was really helpful! Thank you for sharing. I was worried about this aspect but it turns out that the both of us have harmonious natal aspects between neptune/pluto and neptune/venus.
The guy I was recently involved with and I both have Venus square Pluto (2.30 orb) Pluto square Venus (3.16 orb) both sides in synastry. But in our composite chart we have Venus conjunct Pluto at 0.22 orb… it is the most intense connection I’ve ever experienced. He felt it too but got scared & ran but still looks for me.. Everything in me wants to be with him. But I’ve given him his space and just let him be. My intuition told me awhile back that he was meant to be in my life. That he is my soulmate or something “big” to me… and I randomly got this confirmed by a clairvoyant, actually that he is my TF. And it all made sense to me… also may I add that hes 10 years younger than me, and is currently going through his Venus conjunct Pluto transit… I understand how Pluto works, and the intensity of this relationship. So I let him be. But know he’s with me no matter what… Also our charts have many many aspects that are very harmonious… so I just don’t worry or obsess about him/things. He has things to work on (as I focus on my spiritual journey) and I simply just let him do what he needs to do, but let him know that I’m here. ❤️
Are you still together?
@@signatureblonde5956sounds like they were never together
Thanks for clarifying the fact that mitigating energies can "soften" the Pluto/Venus square - or opposition, yet that the BASIC TENET REMAINS IN PLAY.
Imagine having this aspect with someone when your Venus is in their 8th house and it squares Pluto. And their Venus squares your Pluto and mars. 🥵 HOT!!!
i have this. My person has their venus in my eigth house in aries (my natal venus is in eigth in aries too) both my pluto and his venus are sesquiquadrates . i have my pluto trine my venus in natal chart though.
Omg me and my bf rn Venus and mars square my Pluto and his mars and Venus are in my 8th house…
Great video :) I clicked on this thinking it was about my natal chart placement, but anyone my age has Pluto square my Venus so it was helpful. Thanks :)
I've been waiting for this one, thanks Jewel! :)
I am Pluto in this synastry aspect with a man who is the venus, I feel he definitely has the upper hand 😕
She said the opposite...😕
Check your moon, mars and venus with your partner's in syn.
Is it squared
Same.
Jewel, I have this aspect with all my close frds (being Venus in synastry ,always) and people I have ever been close too. It's also in my natal chart. It may actually not be the case but I always feel that I give more than I get. But I'm more mature and aware of myself and this aspect now ,so I hope I deal with it better. :)
@Lindy T Thank you very much for replying. I just try to make myself Happy and fulfilled with other things in my life and with who I'm. And I feel now whatever igive , I give it freely now. I don't fear losing them and I believe that you can't control people and u shudn't either and that's how I prevent myself from giving more than I'm capable of. :)
@@saimoooo Good advice!
@@lindyt3942I really love the idea that this is an indicator that you have a debt to pay your generation. I wonder how I can embrace it better without killing myself
Wow. I have this with my bf. His pluto squaring my venus. My pluto conj his asc, venus, north node , jupiter within a 3 degree orb. His pluto (scopio) opp my moon . His mars over my asc. My mars over his sun. His uranus and neptune conjunct mine. Its such a tight relationship i cnt even describe it but its absolutely great! And im so greatful to God for it. Its completely codependant but its everything i want from 1 person so i dont need others all that much and the feeling is mutual. Thank u lord ! Synastry really decides what relationship one can have. Intensity is fun . Harmony is great but too much harmony can be boring.
Are you all still together?
I would also like to know if you're still together
Update?
I actually have this affliction in my natal chart, I'm way more comfortable with venus-pluto squares than I am with venus-pluto conjunctions mainly because squares don't advance the relationship (which I prefer) and I'm not that affected because I'm so used to it. Also I've had way too many gross and uncomfortable venus-pluto conjunctions, it just feels wrong manipulative and a bit like violation, extremely unwelcome. Then again I'm not a fan of venus-pluto contacts in general.
Is not at all our case. Wonder what mitigates this aspect since we are both "givers" Thank you for your videos always insightful.
It hurts. It is very complex, complicated and exhausting. I worked so so so so hard on myself because of this relationship. Years later there it is again and I am exhausted with the energy. I need a break away from it. Fast. RUNNING AWAY!!!!!! We both have Moon, Venus and PLUTO square and opposition. It dug my heart out to heal again and again then 8 people died suddenly. It prepared me in away but now I am tired and need a break. It's too much shadow work consistently when it should be done in my life. Period. Period Period. I passed that course got the A+ grade and the tshirt.♡ bye.
I have this placement in my natal chart and so does my husband from an Aries chart (no birth time)
You can only imagine the marriage but all good now I’ve separated from him 😂
I have moon square Pluto in my birth chart she has Venus square Pluto in her birth chart are Venus and moon are conjunct and we have Venus square Pluto in the synasty we resonate with each other through our darkside. Bless
Same here but I'm moon, they are Venus, and it's opposite instead of conjunct. I've had the conjunct as well and it was harder for some reason
I know someone who has this in their natal and it explains why they feel so alienated by the concept of me giving them something or being naturally of help (I have Sun in their 6H) without asking for anything in return. The problem is since we're both Pluto in Scorpio generation AND he has Pluto in 7H, his own nVenus square nPluto interacts with my own nPluto and it just feels like I constantly have to battle with his inability to just give without it meaning that his act of giving equals someone always taking from him. His Venus also happens to square my Venus so another karmic issue.
2:55 - yes, the Pluto (Scorpio moon) told me: If you don't give in the sex, I will find other woman to fulfill my sexual desire :) I want to run but it's too late now for me as a Venus :(
Let him find someone else to manipulate. You will be happier without being controlled or forced.
@@JewelMayberry Thank you, now I see leaving is not hard at all :D Realizing how destructive his behavior was, I just simply cut him off :)
What about someone who has Venus square Pluto in their natal chart and also in Synastry with someone? I just met a guy who has it in his natal chart and also his Venus squares my Pluto and as the Pluto person he was the one he was pursuing me. Would that make a difference in our synastry?
The_Sojourner If you have a Venus Pluto square then you have to get used to having this in synastry also because I have this aspect and everyone that I seem to date has a Pluto in a square to my Venus.
If his Venus squares your Pluto, then he’s not the Pluto person: you are.
It is not an usual for the Venus person especially if he’s a man, to pursue the Pluto person.
I have this aspect right now with someone who has been my crush for about a year. I’m the Pluto person and you could say he’s the initiator.
Usually it’s the Venus person who is the object of affection at first. Venus is clueless or thinks it is just a phase but can’t help react to the intensity.
Pluto is intense. It doesn’t want to be, it doesn’t mean to be but Venus doesn’t stand a chance. She is in the grip of transformation. She’s about to suffer a lot! Well, actually it depends if the natal chart has a Venus Pluto aspect. They could be gucci if Venus is unaspected.
Still such an amazing video!
I was the pluto he was the venus, i was so obsessed until one day i realized i was being crossed n disrespected & i just blocked him. Instantly ended that curse but i think he was prob one of my biggest loves
I find it confusing. I have venus square pluto in my natal chart, I felt this kind of connection only with one person iny life, but everyone I meet has the same pluto, it doesn't show up with the whole generation. With much younger people I have venus trine pluto, I heard that it is powerful, but I felt nothing. I mean connection to people who I have strong synastry with, and venus mars contacts. From my experience I feel like squares cause attraction, trines were not felt that strongly
That's why the natal chart is the first thing we analyze before looking into synastries, transits, progressions etc. The same transit that brought a marriage for my friend.. brought nothing significant for me because my natal chart indicates no relationships (natal's chart promise), and that transit is both a heavy, significant one and also one that not all people will be able to experience in their life, Tr. Pluto in 7th H that is.. You having Venus - Pluto square means that people of your generation will find you magnetic/attractive/mysterious in one way or another and some may eventually become obsessive towards you. Because Pluto (the others of your generation) is secretive it won't be an "in your face" attraction. Others feel it but you won't because you are used to its energy since you have it natally, it's already inside you.. For you it means that your relationships will be in general intense, passionate with trust issues, manipulation, possessiveness, pain and jealousy. In order to feel it in synastry, the other person has to activate your Pluto-Venus square, that will happen if a personal planet of his aspects your Venus and Pluto. When you have a hard aspect natally you won't feel softer aspects, or if you do they won't be pleasing/intense/significant enough for you because inside you the energy runs deeper, more intense than that. I'm focusing on this aspect but as I said it's important to analyze natal charts, something else in your natal chart might change/soften the outcome of this aspect for you.
Thank you for explanation. It feels this way, it may be more typical to have intense connections. But my grandmother has that and event though she had tragic live story on her youth, she got married and everything was normal.and there were same generational planeta on synastry. We are not doomed ever. Abd there is some solutions, for example therapy
My Venus un Gemini is square to my bf's Pluto in Virgo
and? how is it going between you two?
Marjorie Baldizzi that is not a square you have with you BF that is a sextile, better.
I misunderstood what you said you were referring to his Sun in Aries, got it.
so Marjorie how it going...I have with with almost everyone in my age group and my ex husband, so it can go beyond marriage, my current bf, which I broke with yesterday (venus retrograde) has his Pluto square my sun, venus , mars and my venus in virgo squares his ascendent and moon, ugh, not sure if we can make it or not...but the passion is off the charts even after 18 months. Otherwise we have a lot of good synastry aspects...he has always wanted to marry me quick, just like ex-husband....thoughts?
@@vazirani123 sounds obsessive from him, my question is what did you feel (like venus, sun or mars) with each of them? intensity? obsessive love? or a healthy love?
do you have any aspect natally?
Hello, and thank you very much for the knowledge you are sharing in this video! I want to ask you a question... How do you think a double synastry Venus-Pluto square aspect will influence a relationship? Both aspects are in almost the same degree, and both partners have very aspected Pluto in the natal charts. Do you think the double aspect will balance the things out or it will lead them to extremums? We also have double Saturn trine Neptune at the same degree and Moon trine and sextile Uranus. : )
I, for one, believe that it could cause two people to feel like they met their soul mate, everything they ever needed in a partner. Very deep love they won't get anywhere else. Pluto only gives it's blessing after deep pain though....
Still working out what it means to have a good and bad aspect for Pluto and Venus. My Venus squares his pluto but his Venus trines my pluto.
Jewel-why is Pluto so mean to Venus? I was Venus, he was Pluto. We dated exclusively for 6 months. Always felt he had the upper hand in everything and punished me by being silent if he didn't get his way or I wanted us to communicate a problem and resolve it in the open. Is Pluto always the heartbreaker?? He just sent me a text this morning saying he can't be with me anymore and refuses to gve an explaination. I am absolutely devestated. I am too nice though....I was honest and said I was heartbroken but wished him the best:(((
hi, the way a relationship plays out involves the whole picture.. you have your own chart/personality.. he has his chart/personality.. you have your synastry connection.. then you have your relationship in action (composite)
okay with that said- what is inside his own chart that has rough edges? same for you.. if a person has unresolved hurts and or anger then that will come out in relationships, AND how our personal stuffs plays out is literally different dependant on whom we are with....i.e. parents, friends, coworkers, etc
i hope you're feeling better...
if someone treats you poorly, let them go.. there are plenty fish in the sea 💓
Ugh I'm female and I'm the Pluto and I became so abusive to him and I've never even been that type of person before something just deep inside me just wanted to destroy him completely cuz I felt that's what he did to me
Pluto has A LOT of deep, repressed fear in general, but especially fear of loss of control and power in relation to others. Pluto is also intensely self focused.
In short, people with very strong Pluto's, often have a lot of shadow work and healing to do with themselves. If they can get through it, and transform, they can reach a higher level and become very effective healing faciliators for others, but it's not easy or common for them to do this, unfortunately. This world has a certain pull and effect, and only the strongest or oldest Souls can really break away from and transcend same.
I feel Pluto is a narcissist if Pluto aspect a person’s personal planet is their natal chart. I have had relationships where My moon was in square to his Pluto (in dynasty) square my moon.
When I was the Pluto in the synastry - I was obsessed, wanting everything now, wanting the other person to behave how I wanted them too - it was horrible for me and horrible for them... Pluto feels vulnerable and out of control. When a person’s Pluto was in a square aspect to my moon- it was HELL. He had natal sun sq Pluto anyway - and hell was he controlling, nasty, selfish, pressuring, squashing my emotions. I was a codependent doormat (my moon) - I learnt a lot. Very hard to break away from these relationships and a very very long healing process.... very addictive these relationships too... walk away when you can and don’t ever go back... or the manipulative and selfish games will start all over again 🙁😫
@@animalames78 It certainly can represent/symbolize that, but Pluto aspects can also symbolize deep transformation and healing, but which is never easy or pleasant.
It really depends a lot on the individuals' entire birth charts, their degree of spiritual maturity, the couple's other life and nonphysical connections, etc.
Pluto is not always negative. It's a double edged sword. Edgar Cayce's guidance called Pluto that of consciousness. Pluto represents becoming more aware of the shadow side of life, self, others, etc, for the purpose of spiritual growth, healing, and transformation.
Ultimately, it is much like Kundalini, a very powerful, but NEUTRAL force, that can be used for great destruction or great positivity, depending on how you direct/channel it.
Which is worse: te have this in synastry or composite?
Can this be applied to the semi-square? Is it as detrimental in a semi-square?
His venus conjuncts my Pluto while mine squares his pluto, will this aspect still have this impact? My venus is also conjunct my mars. The intensity is insane and we seem to energize each other when we're together it's very harmonious but something about it scares us both. We can't seem to leave each other but can't seem to let each other in completely. I should also add we're both very plutonic. Scorpio rising, sun, jupiter and chiron in 8th, pluto also conjuncts my asc from the 12th house while he is a sun, venus and mercury scorpio all in his 8th house. Could this aspect be fixed somehow?
His Pluto squares my mars
And my Pluto squares his venus
What if this is happening only in a progressed synastry chart? Where progressed A’s Pluto is squaring progressed B’s Venus? Same interpretation is the same but only temporary during the time of progression period?
I have this with someone and we both have Pluto sextile Neptune in our natal chart lol does that mitigate it?
Hmm…my husband and I of 13 years have this and I’m not sure I really feel like this resonates in our particular relationship.
hi! i have a burning question- how does synastry play out in parent child, friends, etc.. is it basically the same?
my granddaughter and her mum have Pluto (mum) squaring Venus (child)..
Hello, I have the same placement I'm venus, she's pluto.. unfortunately it's been 13 years that we don't have any ties anymore.
IT'S SAD COZ SHE'S MY MOTHER
I was very close to my Grandma and I consider her my Mom coz she raised me.. my mom left me wen I was young.. She was even jealous that I'm close with her own mother which is my Grandma. the few times we've spent each other IT WAS TOXIC
How's is it going with ur Daughter n Grandaughter..??..
@@fancylyrics.
her mum is an intense person, granddaughter loves both her parents- though, i can see a rift between mum & daughter.. many things have happened to cause this that i prefer to not air.. life goes on ❤
is this still relevant if the orb is 8? i'm so glad the orb is wide. we have a really tight mars square pluto though lol
I would like to know as well, how do you usually feel?
Our orb is 5 degrees.
So is iT better to have Pluto- Venus aspect than a square? Does the Pluto person feels this connection more in a opposition?
Could you do a mars sextile pluto in synastry?
I have this, plus:
Jupiter square Pluto
Saturn square Pluto
Pluto in 12th house.
HELP!! LOL
My partner and I have sun sextile pluto double whammy, his moon square my pluto, my venus square his pluto, my mars conjunct his pluto, and Jupiter sextile Pluto double whammy. Also his chiron is exact my ascendant, and my chiron is opposite his Pluto. His Saturn is conjunct my descendant and his moon falls in my 12th house, conjunct Ceres. I need help
Hello Jewell,
Does a pluto 24 degrees 1st house, to venus 0 degrees cancer (10th house) make this synastry aspect?
I think it's 85 degrees (still considered a square according to what I've read)
I had this aspect with my ex but feel it again with someone else but not an exact 90 degree square.
Thank you 🌸
Kelly Bampton yes within a 3 to 6 degree orb it still is conisdered a square. But milder
how powerful is it does it override good aspects?
I've been in a relationship for 19years with a partner with aspect, but we have a ton of trines between us
Hello everybody, Can a Venus sequare Pluto with 3 orb be felt in the synastry?
Thank you ❤️
Yes
Does it play out if it's 8° apart?
What if there's Venus and Mars square Pluto, but their venus is inconjunct my pluto? Does this even it out in some way?
Does 5 orb count?
Yes
Hi! What about Pluto square our parter's Progressed Venus?? :)
How to tell who is the Pluto or Venus person in the synastry chart
Pluto is the one most obsessed or trying to control or the more pushing one
@@NovafyT seems like we're both pluto he wants control, I want control i push him he push etc......Lol
I like when u say super cool video lol
Does this square denote possible infidelity?
Potential for infidelity can be found in the natal chart
i have this in my natal chart and i have this aspect with my current boyfriend in our synastry chart 😵💫
I have been the Pluto in this one and not proud of myself. Pluto/Venus and Pluto/Mars in tight orb are very powerful and sometimes outright awful.
I had this aspect 2 times with 2 men, i always was the venus. with the love of my life, i felt obsessed about him, i felt like he crushed mt life. And it is intereating now someone is madly obsessed with me abd i don t feel the same. Thoigj with this 2nd person i have sun pluto square where am the sun.
Thanks goodness it’s semi square.
TRUTH! Eeek. :(
My spouse Venus in square my Pluto
May ask do you agree and who long you've been married
Please?
Does your daughter maybe act childish and selfish around your granddaughter? What houses are they in?
Ok so I want to have just a slight disagreement. I think that it can be very gentle and selfless.
I have moon square Pluto. Everyone in my generation that has Venus square Pluto has their Venus opposite or conjunct my moon. It IS a friction, but I find with emotional understanding, it becomes one of the sweeter 'bittersweet' aspects. Both people, if mature about their own chart, will treat each other very tenderly and openly. It's not easy in the slightest, but it does dig right down to heart of what connects two people. Aggressively, but the nectar is there, nonetheless. If you choose to share that passion, pain, and generosity instead of hide and fight, both people will experience a form of love that, according to their birth chart, they were never promised and that they feel they desperately need down to their bones.
horrible. garbage aspect. inappropriate parasiticism or codependency by forced association
@@ronaldmcdonald-s2q hm ok.
I need to tal about it .... join me
The way you describe this aspect sounds borderline rapey and has me concerned for my own well being 😬
it can be. it's not an aspect that is a genuine match. they are imcompatible in a fundamental level. square means it's not the right match. not soulmate.
i had this aspect with a pervert rapist and pedophile. he was the pluto. i was 13 and he was 35. i did not want him and was not attracted at all but he took control over me.
i have never been attracted to venus square pluto synastry. it always felt wrong or off to me. this must appeal either to kinky ppl or users/predators. it was always one sided attraction but i never felt attraction either as venus or pluto because i have an ethical soul that is turned off by corrupt dynamic