I just picked one up yesterday at me local hobby shop and came home to install and realized I forgot a connector for what I run....lol...but that's ok gives me a reason to stop at hobby shop again today...👍 Great review....
Based heavily on this channel recommendations, when my trx4 sport motor was needing replacement, took the plunge on this fusion pro rather than a holmes/hw1080 like planned. First tests have been impressive so far, can't wait for its first crawl day.
I've been hoping for a Fusion with a higher KV rating to install into my brushed SCX10.2 1955 Ford F100, and Hobbywing didn't disappoint me. Most of my crawling is trail running, and the Fusion Pro will be perfect for me.
Your videos are amazing and so helpful!!! I'm glad you love my truck. I built my truck from the ground up using all the vides you've done on all different kinds of things and gear for a crawler!!
Great review Francis. I bought the original 1800kv Fusion after you reviewed it. All I can say is it transformed my crawler in such a profound way, I recommend this system to everyone. Simply brilliant. Almost like cheating lol. The FOC inbuilt, has made it so controllable and so much easier to drive, I cannot believe the difference between the original brushed system to the Fusion. Never thought of using it in another basher type car but having a punch level adjustment is a winner. The 6amp BEC is handy but the 4amp on the older version never gave me any issues, I run a 25kg servo, winch and lots of lights, not once has it failed me. Keen to try the pro out!
lucky you. i had the same and within 1 hr my trx4 snapped the shaft. and got a oh well from hw? we will sell you the new 2in1 system for just 98.00 when we get it back in .but all i need is the new shaft they wont or dont sell..i say dont put too much weight on your rig. and should be ok
@@four20producerz77 Yeah wow that's tough. Thing is many crawlers are quite heavy and we all add weight to them, mine included. I do avoid going from full throttle to the full drag brake though. Hope the same thing doesn't happen often. Maybe you got one that was a manufacturers defect? hope you get it sorted.
@@four20producerz77 It must have been a defect. My trx4 has monster truck tires with lots of brass and I use it for bashing and mud bogging. Never had a shaft break. I did have an issue with the first one I bought which was having some signal issues. Hobby wing had me send a video of the issue and then sent me a new one. I don't blame them for wanting a video as people try to rip them off all the time with insane claims. They have always taken care of me over the years with RC Helicopter and Airplane ESCS when any issues arose. I don't see why they won't take care of you or contact the company you purchased from.
I have the trx 4sport ,i wanting to make it slow crawl better more low sored control less run off smoother start up and better drag brake and hill hold will this system give those things to my sport? And did you change the gearing or is it stock still i wood be very thankful for your advice, i can't stand it the wat it is now
@@roosterrc6519 it is very slow & constant if required, drag brake is very good. All adjustable. You need the programmer though & a new sticker comes in the box of the motor to put on the programmer to help set it up (i had a programmer from another hobbywing motor kit i had bought). Very pleased with mine. Also quite fast with a 3s in!
Just bought the 2300kv after watching this and should get it on Tuesday and put it straight into my TRX4 👍🏻. I have 2 Axe sytems and think they are fantastic, but have thinking of getting a Fusion for a while. After watching this my mind was decided and cant wait to see how it performs. Thanks a lot 🙏🏻👍🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
@@FarmerFpv yep! Absolutely love it! I feel like this is one of my best upgrades. Significant improvements and especially the crawl ability at slow speed is insane!!
You should do a follow-up video with recommended crawling settings after a few runs. what you find to be the best program settings. As always great info and great videos!
Fun fact, smaller but also heavier. It must have a heavier rotor/winding. My old 1800kv with shortened wires weighs 198.5g - the Pro 2300kv with shortened wires weighs 207g
That motor is the obvious choice at that price point. I've got the original fusion in my scx10.2 and ive got the AXE in my Vanquish VS4-10 Ultra. Love the BT on the AXE tho. Need to try this one out
I have just bought one of these,I have the 1800kv in my lcg gatekeeper which is fantastic,in all my other crawlers I run Holmes hobbies crawl master pros and magnum motors with hw 1080 esc my problem is I don't want to change what works in those crawlers so I am just going to have to build a new lcg crawler again
@@RCReviewChannel 🤣🤣🤣 am single so besides the cats I don't have to justify buying them but it's what to get,I just spent over 2 grand on building a custom lcg crawler or do I buy a kit and upgrade or a RTR and upgrade I just don't know 🤣🤦
Well if the old one didnt have enough punch the new version definitely does. I love this motor so much i have 4 brand new ones in my closet just in case they stop making them.
Hi Professor, fortunately I didn't bought the first version that tempted me a lot. This is much better and has a good price. May be mount this on my old Gen 8 and show the result with a video. Ciao! Nanni
I love that the Pro version is shorter, but it is also a bit larger diameter than the previous version. That could be a problem, because on both of my SCX10.2 that run the original Fusion system (smaller diameter) I had to trim the left hand rock rail/receiver box mount to get it to fit and it's still really tight. The additional width of the Pro might become an issue on the 10.2
Hi!You can just solder an JST Plug to your Hobbywing Battery Plug und Put in to your Traxxas Power Supply.The Power Supply puts the Voltage down for your Light System!
Just a suggestion that may help this video get more views... I've been trying to find reviews of this system for a few days in order to get a feel for what it offers. So, using the search terms "hobbywing fusion 2300kv" I found a few, but very few... As a subscriber, I received notification of this video earlier and was happy to find that you had done a review of the new HW. But, running my search again, this video doesn't come up. Hmmm... I guess if I used the term "Pro" in my search, it may, but just using the 2300kv it did not. I've found that names of videos can have a big impact on how they come up in RUclips searches, or don't as the case may be... May want to consider adding the "2300KV" to your title to make it pop up in searches where people, like me, use the KV rating to distinguish between different variants of motors and systems... Just a thought. Good video BTW. Looks to have a nice set of features. Was planning to buy one as soon as I found one available. Well... until someone below pointed out that they didn't include "auto" brake force in the feature list on this one. I really enjoy the auto braking on my XERUN AXE, so a bit disappointed they didn't include it here. Since this does have FOC, it would have basically costs them nothing to include the auto brake force. Pity...
do I need a bec to run my steering servo? its a power hobby 729. I ordered one before I decided to order a new motor. not sure if I need it with this motor?
Trying to decide on a motor/esc for my ryft. Was considering copperhead 10 1415 2400kv. This quieter option sure is appealing! Wish I could run 4s on it. How do you think it would pair with the Ryft?
You're .. RC Review... It's the best... I love your video reference.. Would you help me, about the good / best gearbox for my old rig (scx10i) honcho, what's your suggestion for it? Motor fusion pro, ds servo, etc... But my problem now is gearbox... So please help me... 🙏
Super informative as always! I just ordered mine. One quick question: Did you manage to link the Sense Ess-Dual with it? Does it works well? Thanks in Advance!
Hello, first of all, thanks for your work and your videos. I've been using this fusion for a week and the truth is that it has surprised me, since I normally use the same brand but with separate esc and motor. What do you think is the best setup for him? Could you list your configuration? Thanks from Spain.
Run them at least every Sunday sometimes 2-3 times a week 2-3hrs a session since the original came out with friends who run them none of us have disposed of one yet but if it happens already got my moneys worth.
Doesn't brushless takes away alot of feeling of the resistance of abstacles? The fun of having to feel how luch trottle you need to give to get over a bump? Whats your take on this matter?
Love your honest reviews. This has actually prompted me to order the fusion pro for my trx4 bronco 2021🙂. I have been evaluating this against the hobbywing axe but considering this is almost 80-100$ less expensive than axe, I think this would be a better choice for me. By the way, do you think the old 1080 program card would work with this? I have an old 1080 and intend to use the same program card.
It shouldn’t be an issue to cut the connector off and solder a deans plug right? Also I have some lights that plug into my stock ESC (Knightrunner) what’s the best way to get them wired up with this motor?
So I upgraded my axial to this and added dx5 rugged . Throttle and steering are backwards lol. Is there a right way to fix it or just go into settings and reverse it
I love this motor Francess I have a couple of them but in my Gspeed/TGh enduro comp build I don't have much wheel speed with the stock 18t pinion ,have any of you guys try running taller pinion in a single speed transmission rig ? 2 speed trannys where these shine ,I'm debating on removing my stealth X and trying to find a 2 speed for that build ?
Hello. I got a axial scx10 iii Jeep Gladiator. All Stock without the servo. Am i able to just Switch the Motor with the Stock one or Do I have to get some other Parts? Thanks alot for your guys help!
Hi rc reviewer I’m new to the hobby so sorry if I should know this I’m looking at this hobbywing 2in1 And a savox servo 1210 for my trx4 defender Just wanted to know would I also require a bec or will it be fine without Or maybe someone else could let me know also Love the channel by the way always a good watch Keep up the great work
Buy a different brand of servo if you can, Savox are noisy and underpowered. The best is a Reefs Raw 500. You don’t need an BEC but your servo and motor will be stronger with one. I suggest having your local hobby shop program it for 7.4 volts if that’s the max voltage for your servo. You also need to modify the wiring for the BEC.
Lower price yes, but it does not come with a program card. If you don't already have one you'll have to purchase one separately making it more expensive.
I just picked one up yesterday at me local hobby shop and came home to install and realized I forgot a connector for what I run....lol...but that's ok gives me a reason to stop at hobby shop again today...👍 Great review....
Based heavily on this channel recommendations, when my trx4 sport motor was needing replacement, took the plunge on this fusion pro rather than a holmes/hw1080 like planned. First tests have been impressive so far, can't wait for its first crawl day.
I put them in my 3 trx4's including my new Cheyenne K10 chevy high lift. In my axial scxiii and my VS4. Best Esc motor combo I have ever used.
Considering one for my High Trail, any complaints?
What were the settings you programed?
I've been hoping for a Fusion with a higher KV rating to install into my brushed SCX10.2 1955 Ford F100, and Hobbywing didn't disappoint me. Most of my crawling is trail running, and the Fusion Pro will be perfect for me.
Purchased one due to your praise. Very nice setup
Your videos are amazing and so helpful!!! I'm glad you love my truck. I built my truck from the ground up using all the vides you've done on all different kinds of things and gear for a crawler!!
Thanks for mentioning to get the Pro version, and to be aware they are still selling old version 👍
Great review Francis.
I bought the original 1800kv Fusion after you reviewed it. All I can say is it transformed my crawler in such a profound way, I recommend this system to everyone. Simply brilliant. Almost like cheating lol.
The FOC inbuilt, has made it so controllable and so much easier to drive, I cannot believe the difference between the original brushed system to the Fusion.
Never thought of using it in another basher type car but having a punch level adjustment is a winner.
The 6amp BEC is handy but the 4amp on the older version never gave me any issues, I run a 25kg servo, winch and lots of lights, not once has it failed me.
Keen to try the pro out!
lucky you. i had the same and within 1 hr my trx4 snapped the shaft. and got a oh well from hw? we will sell you the new 2in1 system for just 98.00 when we get it back in .but all i need is the new shaft they wont or dont sell..i say dont put too much weight on your rig. and should be ok
@@four20producerz77 Yeah wow that's tough. Thing is many crawlers are quite heavy and we all add weight to them, mine included. I do avoid going from full throttle to the full drag brake though. Hope the same thing doesn't happen often. Maybe you got one that was a manufacturers defect? hope you get it sorted.
@@four20producerz77 It must have been a defect. My trx4 has monster truck tires with lots of brass and I use it for bashing and mud bogging. Never had a shaft break. I did have an issue with the first one I bought which was having some signal issues. Hobby wing had me send a video of the issue and then sent me a new one. I don't blame them for wanting a video as people try to rip them off all the time with insane claims. They have always taken care of me over the years with RC Helicopter and Airplane ESCS when any issues arose. I don't see why they won't take care of you or contact the company you purchased from.
bought mine couple of weeks ago for my trx4 sport & run 3s - wow just transformed it, excellent all rounder now!
I have the trx 4sport ,i wanting to make it slow crawl better more low sored control less run off smoother start up and better drag brake and hill hold will this system give those things to my sport? And did you change the gearing or is it stock still i wood be very thankful for your advice, i can't stand it the wat it is now
@@roosterrc6519 it is very slow & constant if required, drag brake is very good. All adjustable. You need the programmer though & a new sticker comes in the box of the motor to put on the programmer to help set it up (i had a programmer from another hobbywing motor kit i had bought). Very pleased with mine. Also quite fast with a 3s in!
Have my Fusion 1 in a 1982 vintage Hilux. Coupled with the 3 speed and the weight, unstoppable. ABSOLUTELY Love FOC tech, my favorite motor for sure.
I have the same Hilux, what pinion do you use, the original that comes with the stock motor?
Awesome video and I laughed when you said you need 5 of these motors because that was my order I bought 5 for all of my rigs without even hesitating
Great video. I just went to the Amain store using your link and ordered this Fusion Pro setup and some other stuff. Thanks for this review.
My Fusion pro motor will be in June 23rd, excited for it !
this video made me buy the 2300kv so slow i love it
❤❤❤ thank you for sharing from Alberta Canada.
Nice I’m still holding on to a new older version so I can’t wait to get one of these. Thanks for a great review.
Good review. No castle whine. Nice.
got mine,swap the 1800kv in my ecto with this one and the ecto are lively now,more wheel speed and punch, love it
Exactly. It put the fun and rally back in the crawler!!
Just bought the 2300kv after watching this and should get it on Tuesday and put it straight into my TRX4 👍🏻. I have 2 Axe sytems and think they are fantastic, but have thinking of getting a Fusion for a while. After watching this my mind was decided and cant wait to see how it performs. Thanks a lot 🙏🏻👍🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
Hi, can you plz update how has it worked for you because I wanted to order this for my trx4 bronco 2021 as well
@@laxm8162 It's insanely good. You won't regret it.
@@FarmerFpv yep! Absolutely love it! I feel like this is one of my best upgrades. Significant improvements and especially the crawl ability at slow speed is insane!!
@@FarmerFpv how do you connect the pro scale light kit though
You should do a follow-up video with recommended crawling settings after a few runs. what you find to be the best program settings. As always great info and great videos!
Hobbywing fan love the 1080
These look great
Better performance and no pesky esc to mount.
Fun fact, smaller but also heavier. It must have a heavier rotor/winding. My old 1800kv with shortened wires weighs 198.5g - the Pro 2300kv with shortened wires weighs 207g
These motors are unreal can’t wait to grab the new version
Just ordered mine thanks to your video thanks!!! Amain is back in stock as of August 13. But they don't come with the programming box anymore. 🙄
I love this channel so much... Very informative.. Thank you sir...
That motor is the obvious choice at that price point. I've got the original fusion in my scx10.2 and ive got the AXE in my Vanquish VS4-10 Ultra. Love the BT on the AXE tho. Need to try this one out
These look like a game changer… going to have to get one 👌🏻
I have just bought one of these,I have the 1800kv in my lcg gatekeeper which is fantastic,in all my other crawlers I run Holmes hobbies crawl master pros and magnum motors with hw 1080 esc my problem is I don't want to change what works in those crawlers so I am just going to have to build a new lcg crawler again
Exactly. That's how I justify my new rigs as well. :)
@@RCReviewChannel 🤣🤣🤣 am single so besides the cats I don't have to justify buying them but it's what to get,I just spent over 2 grand on building a custom lcg crawler or do I buy a kit and upgrade or a RTR and upgrade I just don't know 🤣🤦
Well if the old one didnt have enough punch the new version definitely does. I love this motor so much i have 4 brand new ones in my closet just in case they stop making them.
Hi Professor, fortunately I didn't bought the first version that tempted me a lot. This is much better and has a good price. May be mount this on my old Gen 8 and show the result with a video. Ciao! Nanni
One look at your face told the story .
I'm still smiling to .
smile and surprise review!
got mine for 60$ what a steal!
Welded and shoo-goo to slap the ESC to the motor..... Lolol CLASSIC
Very informative. I'm fixing to start a Vanquish Phoenix Portal build, would this shorter version fit? Thanks for the great channel.
I love that the Pro version is shorter, but it is also a bit larger diameter than the previous version. That could be a problem, because on both of my SCX10.2 that run the original Fusion system (smaller diameter) I had to trim the left hand rock rail/receiver box mount to get it to fit and it's still really tight. The additional width of the Pro might become an issue on the 10.2
Good video, probably my next setup
What piñon are you running on this Basecamp?
I find these videos so informative, hope to see many more videos from you.
thanks, appreciate the insights 🙏😎☮️✝️
This is another excellent review. Thank you.
Much appreciated!
Just got one probably going to get another
i got one and i loved it, my only issue is how do i run my trx defender light kit? any tips? thank you for your video it helps a lots on my rc hobby
Hi!You can just solder an JST Plug to your Hobbywing Battery Plug und Put in to your Traxxas Power Supply.The Power Supply puts the Voltage down for your Light System!
Great vid. Will this fit in a VS4 10 pro VFD transmission?
I would love to know this too! Anyone?
Terrific review, I needed some new info 👍👍👍
Glad it was helpful! I had to actually research and test. More in-depth parameters info coming.
Excellent review, going to get one! What wheels aere those on your trx4 btw?
Great video, definitely will be getting this motor 👍🏼
Right on! Surprised us because they have no competition in the 2-in-1 yet they outdid themselves.
Just a suggestion that may help this video get more views... I've been trying to find reviews of this system for a few days in order to get a feel for what it offers. So, using the search terms "hobbywing fusion 2300kv" I found a few, but very few... As a subscriber, I received notification of this video earlier and was happy to find that you had done a review of the new HW. But, running my search again, this video doesn't come up. Hmmm... I guess if I used the term "Pro" in my search, it may, but just using the 2300kv it did not. I've found that names of videos can have a big impact on how they come up in RUclips searches, or don't as the case may be... May want to consider adding the "2300KV" to your title to make it pop up in searches where people, like me, use the KV rating to distinguish between different variants of motors and systems... Just a thought. Good video BTW. Looks to have a nice set of features. Was planning to buy one as soon as I found one available. Well... until someone below pointed out that they didn't include "auto" brake force in the feature list on this one. I really enjoy the auto braking on my XERUN AXE, so a bit disappointed they didn't include it here. Since this does have FOC, it would have basically costs them nothing to include the auto brake force. Pity...
do I need a bec to run my steering servo? its a power hobby 729. I ordered one before I decided to order a new motor. not sure if I need it with this motor?
Trying to decide on a motor/esc for my ryft. Was considering copperhead 10 1415 2400kv.
This quieter option sure is appealing! Wish I could run 4s on it.
How do you think it would pair with the Ryft?
You're .. RC Review... It's the best... I love your video reference..
Would you help me, about the good / best gearbox for my old rig (scx10i) honcho, what's your suggestion for it?
Motor fusion pro, ds servo, etc... But my problem now is gearbox...
So please help me... 🙏
Super informative as always! I just ordered mine. One quick question: Did you manage to link the Sense Ess-Dual with it? Does it works well? Thanks in Advance!
Can the pro be programmed using the 1800 program if card?
I assume this is a direct bolt in on trx-4 sport?
Great video as usual.😀
Would y’all pick this over the Holmes Hobby Revolver Snub Nose?
Hello, first of all, thanks for your work and your videos.
I've been using this fusion for a week and the truth is that it has surprised me, since I normally use the same brand but with separate esc and motor.
What do you think is the best setup for him? Could you list your configuration?
Thanks from Spain.
I will experiment with all the settings and post another video. Currently I'm using stock settings with just the servo BEC turned up to 7.4v.
@@RCReviewChannel Thanks a lot. I will wait for the video and while I will be doing tests.
Run them at least every Sunday sometimes 2-3 times a week 2-3hrs a session since the original came out with friends who run them none of us have disposed of one yet but if it happens already got my moneys worth.
Same as me. its not enought punch😂 Hopefully they make some upgrade more kv. Hope so 3300KV release 😂😂 how ever this always my favorite Motor😁😁👍🏻
Doesn't brushless takes away alot of feeling of the resistance of abstacles? The fun of having to feel how luch trottle you need to give to get over a bump? Whats your take on this matter?
Love your honest reviews. This has actually prompted me to order the fusion pro for my trx4 bronco 2021🙂. I have been evaluating this against the hobbywing axe but considering this is almost 80-100$ less expensive than axe, I think this would be a better choice for me. By the way, do you think the old 1080 program card would work with this? I have an old 1080 and intend to use the same program card.
Yes, the 1080 program card works with it.
Would I need a bec if installing this and a direct power servo?
Will the fusion pro power up the RX?
It shouldn’t be an issue to cut the connector off and solder a deans plug right? Also I have some lights that plug into my stock ESC (Knightrunner) what’s the best way to get them wired up with this motor?
How is the water resistance? Able to be submerged? Looking to make the swap from Brushed to Brushless. Between this and the Axe.
I have a tr4x and want to optimize crawling should I get the 1800 or 2300 ?
Thank you for sharing a good video, friends👍🤝😁
Thank you too
Would you recommend for the trx6 or the axe r2 instead?
Are there any issues using a bec with this combo?
So I upgraded my axial to this and added dx5 rugged . Throttle and steering are backwards lol. Is there a right way to fix it or just go into settings and reverse it
I love this motor Francess I have a couple of them but in my Gspeed/TGh enduro comp build I don't have much wheel speed with the stock 18t pinion ,have any of you guys try running taller pinion in a single speed transmission rig ? 2 speed trannys where these shine ,I'm debating on removing my stealth X and trying to find a 2 speed for that build ?
Are of the same frame of mind as many others regarding the Spektrum All in 1 being a rebranded Fusion?
Wait for a mini Fusion for the SCX 24 ha ha!
I like to support John Holmes at Holmes hobbies, and also think they’re motors are much better. You’re paying for it though👍
Would you recommend for F450?
Can you install higher pinion gear and not hurt the crawling so much?
How many t pinnion you use
sorry if it was mentioned and I missed it. what was gearing like for the review?😊
Hello. I got a axial scx10 iii Jeep Gladiator. All Stock without the servo.
Am i able to just Switch the Motor with the Stock one or Do I have to get some other Parts?
Thanks alot for your guys help!
I currently using castle sw4, homles hobbies revovler v2 2500kv with eubc 10A H/W, thinking to change to Fusion Pro, it is worth it?
My TRX4 is geared 22-39, and on a 3S 5'000 mah 50C. It can run the BAJA 500!!!
Hi Francis this or axe 550 mostly trailing, I have the trx4 2 speed
Hey rc review. Can you tell me wich shock towers you have on that car?
This is also an all in 1 disposeable kit 😁
Well sorta but, it can be canabolized if one knows what they are doing! Esc, rotor and stator.
Hi rc reviewer
I’m new to the hobby so sorry if I should know this
I’m looking at this hobbywing 2in1
And a savox servo 1210 for my trx4 defender
Just wanted to know would I also require a bec or will it be fine without
Or maybe someone else could let me know also
Love the channel by the way always a good watch
Keep up the great work
Buy a different brand of servo if you can, Savox are noisy and underpowered. The best is a Reefs Raw 500. You don’t need an BEC but your servo and motor will be stronger with one. I suggest having your local hobby shop program it for 7.4 volts if that’s the max voltage for your servo. You also need to modify the wiring for the BEC.
Can’t find a Hobbywing Fusion Pro anywhere right now…can you tell me what the difference is between that and the Spektrum Firma 2 in 1?
Good stuff any suggestions for a servo for an axle mount
Oooh, I've never tried that. Can anyone else suggest a recommendation?
This is a great motor/ESC setup. Will it fit in a Capra 1.9?
Have you tried it? I want to get one for mine
Lower price yes, but it does not come with a program card. If you don't already have one you'll have to purchase one separately making it more expensive.
Can you use the hobbywing OTA programmer on it?
can this 540 pro work for vs4 10 pro without the need for any changes
What battery should I get for it
1:35 , if you wanna burn the motor out install thr fision pro into a lmt and try and crawl with it, itll last a day or 2
Losi LMT monster truck is not good. Too high a gearing i'm sure.
How’s the noise level of this motor? Is it annoying at all?
What would I need to convert my ecto to this?
Wondering same thing, want to order everything at once
do you know if the fusion pro motor and esc is waterproof?
What cell batteries did you run it on ?
Do you think that it would fit in a Capra
I’ve got the previous model in a Capra with some cutting and sanding. This new one will probably go straight in.
Awesome review
How you can do this 11:34
Brilliant :)
Mine has a cogging noise and low speed crawl any idea what it could be
In first gear my TRX4 wheelies, and in second gear, it has enough power to do rolling wheelies!!!