2254 Copper, Urea And Sunlight Equals Fuel - A New Way
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
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As a farmer I can tell you urea prices have gone up a lot. As an engineer we know copper is expensive too. :) A couple of years ago I did a few experiments to make ethanol and I found that the price difference is not very different than petrol, because when petrol gets expensive so does everything else.
But these are used to make the catalyst, they are not elements of the final fuel, made from just sunlight, CO2 and water to make methanol. The catalyst should last a very long time. So the cost is not a big part of the final fuel.
I'm also a farmer... C O2 is plant food.
Where is your farm?
One of those weird places where water freezes?
If so, you can make ethanol pretty darn cheap
In a warm shed, you will mix up your mash with whatever fruit or vegetable you have available with a high carbohydrate content
I'm just going to assume you can look up how to make ethanol
Now here's where you save money
Instead of distilling the whole thing, put your mash outside in the freezing weather and just the water will freeze, not the liquor
You can keep on doing this and removing the ice chunks until you have some pretty potent alcohol left over and you can't get anything to freeze out of it any longer
Then and only then you can run it through your still. But now you've gotten all that pesky water out of there so it should distill pretty darn quick and use as little heat as possible
@@Bozemanjustin in the mountains of Az, own a vacuum still and build my own wind generators. Been living off grid for 10 years now and in the process of building a 60 by 20 foot walipini. Uploaded a few wind generator videos
Plant see-O2?
ha ha
If you can reproduce the experiment that would be awesome. 😊
Yeah, that would be great! ❤
Yes, I'd love to see it, too.
The "savings" will NEVER be passed down to the consumer
Presently, production costs of methanol are 7.9p per litre. The UK government will not accept synthetic fuels over EVs. Methanol can be transported in the existing gas grid, can supply heat and light using direct methanol fuel cell technology, which is a mature technology, Methanol can be used in most ICE vehicles, older oned with modification. Newer ones require a black box conversion, which is relatively cheap. Existing fuel tankers can transport it with changes to the sealing materials. As time passes, ICE vehicles would naturally be replaced by methanol fuel cells. CO2, could be utilised again and again. That would just leave Nox as the Green cult villain. Of course there are many routes to produce alcohols, most of them using waste materials. I would very much like to see your experiment.
Prohibition had a lot more to do with fuel, than drink, IMO.
Not without competition for sure.
Definitely interested to see an updated version of your older vid. Clearer audio, graphs, & chemical & molecular depictions are always a plus.
I don't get excited about any of this stuff until I see you or Nighthawk talk about it. This is incredible
BRILLIANT Rob.
The Most Overlooked Thing About Transport Is Not The Deadly Gasses But The Amount Of HEAT Produced From Each Unit 😢
Bless Up Fella ❤
Don't worry about that. The Sun is a 113 TW space heater constantly running on the planet. Nothing man made will ever compare to that. The concern is the ability to radiate that heat back into space.
@@DFPercush exactly. You nailed it. 👋 Applied physics
@@DFPercush And even if it did become a problem, we could make big old space radiators with microsphere paint and beam it all out the nightside.
Hey Rob, I would love to see you utilize your processes to fabricate methanol. I am familiar with your older videos, but to consolidate the effort and processes would be very interesting and rewarding. Besides, I love seeing you in your lab wiping up some really cool stuff. Leo
A side note on urea. I was stationed in the RAF in Germany in the mid ‘70s on a squadron operating Phantom jet aircraft. We used crystallised urea instead of rock salt to de-ice the ground everywhere the aircraft and vehicles went because, unlike salt, it wasn’t corrosive.
Yes, please do more videos along these lines! It's been a while since I reviewed your carbon nitride videos but I do recall the audio being so terrible I could barely concentrate on what you were saying. I've had it to the gills with 3D printer stuff so it's been refreshing to see more of your hard science and real tools and materials videos again lately. I miss all the gentle persuading. Teaching us how to make rivets and bellows and copper diodes were some of my favorite videos. As simple as a lot of it is, you presented things I hadn't seen taught before, things that are incredibly useful and resourceful. Hope you do some new content soon about fusing science and shop tools; a series about implementing the idea in this video would be a great place to start. As always, thanks for everything you do!
Yes please, I agree.
Making copper particles is very easy with electrolysis of copper in brine. The nacient reaction is taking place on the atomic level so the particles are extremely small. Of course making copper sulphate is possible the same way with just copper and dilute sulphuric acid. I use both processes in gold recovery from electronic waste.
I've used these processes to avoid the problems associated with dealing with tin, and the problems that arise from metastannic acid and/or gold stannate production. Avoiding the tin problems should be easier than dealing with them afterwards.
Yes - A Eureka Alert, ... Moment - and an earth shattering gamechanger it surely is, !! Such rare moments are always a great Big WOW !! not least for their novelty of their new ground breaking factors. Well done Nottingham. Hope you can roll it out. Thank you for presenting it to us all. Yes please to update the video''s and reproducing the experiment. Great stuff!!
not everyone is concerned.
many of us are bemused.
at best..
No the co2 isn't causing clim ate change... 🙄
Politicians, media, corporatuon are causing it. Not our tiny cars.
@@hgvtechuk4929Not your tiny car, billions of tiny cars do contribute. Every ocean is made of raindrops.
@@dirkvornholt2507 big corporate are polluting 3 times more than the whole vehicles on the planet, and we get the blame of it because we buy from them, look at the data not at the news.
I'm not worried about it.
I remember when plants ate Co2. Too bad those good ole days are gone
Yeah back when plants ate, those were the days.
Well, they still do, but there's more CO2 production nowadays, and less CO2 consumption after decades of deforestation. And it's causing an imbalance.
Could you demonstrate how we can reproduce the breakthrough, preferably with the kind of common, cheap ingredients that are widely available.
An updated video would be great, especially if it includes a pioneering practical application.
Could this be combined with those solar farms where they use mirrors to direct the light to a central point..?
Sounds exciting,please update the previous videos in light of this development. Thanks.
Robert, are you worried about the climate? If so, why?
Desperately trying to show how you don't understand climate change is actually a good look for you. 🤗
Are you referring to me or Robert?@@jvlbme
Great video Rob! One of the nice things about methanol is that it can be used in fuel cells to produce electricity.
True, too bad theyre only 30% efficient. Comparable to an engine but not a battery.
i am a huge fan of methanol as a fuel mate
If only Co2 was a problem.
Thank you for sharing Robert
If I am not mistaken, heating co2 at 2000F will break the molecular bonds and give you CO and molecular oxygen. Both of those burn quite well, also reforming into co2.
Definitely interesting and all needed materials have been synthesized on this channel before. Would be REALLY interesting to see if the hobbyist setup can rival the efficiencies of the process in the paper.
Never mind rivalling. Just let me have something smaller than a bathtub to make even a liter a day.
Sorry all I could think of was a carbon lined copper piss pot😂. Amazing the things they discover with a bit of support finally. Thanks for this channel 👍
Thank you Robert that is very interesting I hope you will " join the dots " of your previous good works to see how close you can get.
Ugh, I remember a paper from my undergrad days, like in 2017-2019, where copper nanoparticles were sitting on top of carbon "hairs" and also reduced CO2 to methanol, maybe not by light though. I remember, that the idea behind copper spheres was something tied to them achieving high over potential to successfully catalyze the conversion.... Maybe...
Can't really find that same picture I'm thinking of by googling though
If you have time.... i vote for the updated timely video. While Im voting, an enhanced
2221 New Groundbreaking Process For Plastics To Fuel.
Thank you always for extreme i telligence and simplicity
They pump greenhouses full of Co2.. plants love it. 🐰
yes which means plants can use alot more co2 than we have , which means that co2 wont be an issue to the climate until there is as much in the atmosphere as farmers pump into greenhouses ....... climate co2 hoax !!!!!"
Yeast carbonates beer and people love it, yet NOT ONE person promotes the reduction of beer consumption. 🤔
where did my comment go?
And we are in a CO2 drought. Plants would be MUCH happier with higher levels of C02 -- and that would mean much more food for animals (including humans). If we reduce the levels of CO2 plants, which are already struggling, will die -- taking the animal life with them. But the "climate change" zealots either cannot or will not understand that CO2 is plant food.
@@CCoburn3However plants don’t like too much heat. See many in hot deserts?
Is there anyway (or has it been done) of capturing the exhaust gases of a motor vehicle and using the engine its self to compress those gases into a bottle. Wouldn’t it be interesting to “empty the exhaust gases” into a petrol station whilst also filling up the car. Then possibly this Urea and Copper could be used to convert those gases back into fuel?
You can't "capture" the exhaust because it is super hot gas. And it's a lot of it compared to the volume of the fuel.
Where are you gonna leave it? In a giant pressure vessel? How are you pumping it in there against so much pressure?
Eventually it will need to vent, preferably not with a catastrophic explosion.
Even if you find a way to cool the gas or precipitate it inside a contraption, you're then dealing with solids/liquids.
@@Yezpahr It may be do-able. Just not quite as simple as anthony put it. We already reuse exhaust in turbos. Maybe running it through a scrubber of some sort, and then recovering the saturated medium rather than collecting it in a pressure vessel, I don't know, but it's worth looking into rather than immediately dismissing it I think. I love outside of the box ideas.
@@skampp Sure, it's interesting to think about applying all the science we could throw at it, but it will need to vent **something** or it won't drive 100 yards if you rely on squeezing all exhaust into a vessel.
In the end it's not technologically unfeasible to scrub it though, but we need a cleaner supply, even if it's a hundred times more expensive.
Cody from Cody's Lab once came with a sun-based algae producing contraption that had pure (well, raw) oil as end-product. Molecular identical.
If we want longevity, that's the way to go. Make what you use, and don't overproduce. That will make more difference.
Supposedly there was an inventor who made something that "bubbled" the exhaust gases and returned them back up the exhaust pipe, it ran mainly on water with a small amount of oil to start it off and it was claimed to be 300% more efficient
I have long thought we need to be using urea as a fuel source. Mostly though I have thought about it in terms of low voltage electrolysis, but this is even better. Every septic tank should be equipped with a recovery unit converting waste into useable gas.
Sometimes i look at the sea and think a lot....
this video satisfied me and calmed me down
Would love to see a video on how to apply the copper nanoparticles to the graphitic carbon nitride
i have done it mate
that would be great if it could be scaled up very interested. even interested in destructive distillation production of Methanol, have vast quantities of fast growing scrub timber.
I would love to see this taken further Robert. Or at least the testing of catalytic properties the Copper in Carbon Nitride. That will help consume the beautiful blue contents of a jar I have sitting around! Off to read the paper now.
me too mate - keep me in touch with what you get up to
So, you propose: powdered ,copper , powdered carbon , in a copper kettle , with a glass top, water or steam, and a carbon rod with a charge. will make lots of methane fuel.
Man, this could lead to a whole new life for photochemistry. Now if we could just come up with something general like this for electrochemistry (electron transport), maybe we’d have a chain for manufacturing almost anything!
Very interesting... in my lab we were synthesizing graphitic carbon nitride (g-CN) films on copper and then etching the copper to lift the g-CN off. The trouble was that the g-CN was contaminated by copper. Wish I had thought to try testing it's catalytic behavior. Incidentally, the way we made the g-CN was pretty unusual; we heated melamine plastic in a furnace without oxygen and it would partially break down and vapor deposit on copper.
To state the obvious methanol is very easy to split into hydrogen using the steam reform process. If we can replace the natural gas they are using with methanol suddenly hydrogen gets interesting. Hope you try to replicate the fuel cell. Swamped right now but next spring I plan to give it a try. Curious if concentrating the sunlight would speed up the process? Usually the cell have a sweet spot for temperature but this is a photo reaction so my point is can you increase the reaction by increasing the intensity of the light while cooling the cell to keep it in optimal range? Catalytic cells are the way to go. Give me an excuse to build my vapor depositing rig. I bought all the parts then got too busy to assemble it. Half the reason I was building it was to play with cells like this.
Yes I wish to see tour old CO2 to urea video and converting it to carbon nitride
Could be awesome in the future.
At the moment though the photocurrent of silicon is 100x higher. So electrolysis of water and FT-synthesis to Methanol seems more direct.
So what happend to video 1701 (Methanol - The 'Best' Fuel We've Got) that is referrd to here @3:55?? It's no longer in the list with video's and not searchable on youtube.
C O 2 is plant food. Grow a garden, problem solved.
Third world is cutting down the trees. CO2 goes up, duh.
Ever calculated how much "garden" you'd need to grow?
@@dirkvornholt2507 figuring I'm building a 20 by 60 foot walipini and have a 1/2 acre garden? Yes.
@keithfloyd1178 Even if you'd grow palm oil on that half acre, it would only be sufficient to power an average ICE car around 9000 miles a year, assuming tropical climate. My 0.016 acre PV array powers my EV for around 50k miles a year.
Most people don't have half an acre at their disposal, so rooftop PV seems a better solution.
@@dirkvornholt2507 you need to do a little more research, Henry Ford did a lot on Hemp biodiesel and ethanol from the plant matter, not to mention his "hemp plastic car" videos that you can find real easy on you tube. How toxic are those panels to make? It's a "not so green" product.
Now this...
This is an interesting video.
Great video Robert.
wow ! mixed into the equation.
thx for the info
Not sure if this method is similar but I copper coated Woven Carbon Fiber Tape by doing electrolysis in a water/copper sulfate solution.
Methanol fuel cells are already available in the market.
I wonder if collecting CO2 directly near the producer (e.g. city centre or industrial plant would give significantly better yields).
The sort of balanced equation that as a scientist qualified in Chemistry & Biochemistry I have been suggesting in place of the battery technology which is so problematic!
Wow. Is there any toxic waste from the process?
First.
As of right now, NO political corruption and bribery
@@ResortDog You've never worked in the Academic World of Research Grants, have you?
You won the cigar. Electric Utilities then gemstone mining. I got my BA in 4 and went the rich dad route.@@TimeSurfer206
DIC is not considered for fuel production. It is supposed to acquire the gigatons of pure carbon, the chemical industry is in dire need of.
To facilitate a fuel production on top of this, would require an epic upstep of production, from the already epic production goal🤗
But good to hear, that at least the first epic goal, may not cost us a fortune.
Completely different topic has anyone tired building a pendulum to rotary generator thinking of building one but don't know if its that effective and efficient?
Awesome news.
Robbing plant food from the atmosphere is a f....g stupid idea.
Hundreds of millions tones of carbon were sequestered on the ground naturally millions of years ago and yet plants lived on but you think taking out the CO2 we added is a bad idea?
@Tasmantor Yes, but co2 levels were getting dangerously low. Fortunately, we came along and avoided joining the Fermi Paradox.
@@Tasmantor We are not adding any that wasn't already there in the first place.
The sequestered carbon has been removed from the carbon life cycle over millions of years. There is not an unlimited supply of carbon, which is the basis of all life on earth.
When terrestrial life first took a foothold on the land surfaces millions of years ago, atmospheric CO2 was estimated to be between 7- 8,000 ppm.
As recently as the last ice age, atmospheric CO2 was as low as 180 ppm. Anything lower is approaching starvation levels for land plants and everything that eats them. The last ice age, with its near starvation levels of CO2 was also the last great extinction era that wiped out the remaining megafauna.
Commercial greenhouse growers deliberately pump CO2 into their greenhouses because of the increased health and yield of their crops.
Releasing much of the sequestered carbon back into the atmosphere as CO2, returns that carbon to the carbon life cycle with beneficial effects for plants and the rest of the food chain and life cycle.
@hoptoads. Well said
Well said, some people cannot get past the old 'the telly tells me carbon's bad' bit. 😁
Make a video of both and the experiment. That would be very interesting how it works out
Hmmm cant that catalyst be put on cars and power plants to reduce CO2 production. Use waste heat to drive the reaction or put uv lights in the catalyst chamber?
There are platinum catalyst for no2 and there are also titanium dioxide catalyst for pollution. Why not a car co2 catalyst.
where does Urea fit in
making the graphitic carbon nitride from it. its an earlier video.
But is it efficient? We know 'fracking' methane requires lots of energy which would be more efficiently used to charge BEV's.
Please do the experiment!
I already have - just ages ago
What other materials are produced in this process?
No matter how good this turns out to be, it will be stopped. The politicians and money people will see to it that we don't stop using petrol / diesel etc.
Why do you think that the alternative being pushed above all others is battery power? The reason is; when it is finally realized that EV's are not fit for purpose, hydrocarbon fuels will remain the only practical fuel for propulsion!
And they'll ban you from using it
That “game changer” is old and called a plant.
I run my car on vegetable oil and create CO2 and then the plant uses the CO2 and I take its oil.
good job, thanks
I keep hearing that we need technology to eliminate CO2 from our atmosphere.
We have that technology already: Plants. Not to mention no CO2 = no plants.
Seems like an unachievable goal to have zero CO2 production.
No one wants to remove all the CO2. Just what we added. Don't panic plants existed and thrived at the pre industrial levels and will continue to of we can get back there. They'll also survive and possibly thrive if we don't but we might not.
CO2 does not control the earth's temperatures. We are in the warming phase of a natural Milankovich cycle. The same exact thing has happened repeatedly over and over again long before we were burning fossil fuels. You can look at the data from any ice core sample and see it plain as day. The temperature changes precede the atmospheric CO2 changes over 99% of the time in both directions. Let us start at a temperature minimum. temperature slowly increases and keeps increasing in an exponential manner with the maximum temperatures occurring with an almost vertical line. The atmospheric CO2 follows by about 800-1,000 years. This is because as the oceans warm up, they hold less CO2 and they expel CO2 directly into the atmosphere. Then, all of a sudden while atmospheric CO2 is very close to its maximum, the temperatures plummet in almost a vertical line. Then the atmospheric CO2 plummets in almost the same exact manner. This is not possible if it is atmospheric CO2 which is causing temperatures to rise as the alleged temperature forcing from CO2 is at its maximum while the temperatures are plunging. Per the scientific principle of causality, the cause must ALWAYS precede the effect. This means that temperature change is the cause and atmospheric CO2 change is the effect. There is absolutely no way around this fact. CO2 does not cause global warming, nor can it cause a "runaway greenhouse effect." If it could, it would have already done so numerous times, especially when the atmospheric CO2 content was about 6% of the atmospheric content as opposed to our present levels of 0.04% Anyone claiming that a trace element dominates the global temperature is off of their rocker.
That's really fascinating, Wes. Thank you for that.
@@morrison37171 There are s great many scientists that understand this. Many have been censored. The raw data does not lie. People that get funding based on the content of their papers often do. Go ahead and look at any ice core data set you want. Look at temperature vs atmospheric CO2 chart. You will see it as plain as day in the chart.
I think is the hastening of this effect by burning fossil fuels is the problem this supposed to take 1000 yrs happening in 100
That's nice. Has nothing to do with the video. This is about shortening the fuel chain.
You've successfully described a positive feedback loop. The Release of additional greenhouse Gases i.e. from ocean resovoirs of dissolved CO2 after reaching a tipping point of warming is modeled and accounted for in most "mainstream" climate change research.
This is really interesting. Is it possible in your workshop.
Is it carbon negative?
Nature sure does like to provide.
All fair and good but currently there is only 0.3% of CO2 in our atmosphere and if we were to suck CO2 out of the atmosphere you should remember too that plants need CO2 and they die if there is less than 0.2 % CO2 .
So a very fine line before you either die of heat or starvation .
Rather not mess with something that we will regret later .
Plant more forest and convert the wood to fuel .
Best not mess with anything, like by adding a heap of a trace element into a system.
always fun and informative
Nice music !!
Love to see you redo your old video on Urea but add converting human urine into urea.
Sounds great 👍🏼
😂 so in the apocalypse, collect all the pee, get some copper, and fire up the engines! I love it. Probably more worth it in an apocalyptic scenario where oil based fuels just aren't so readily available.
I'm not worried about CO2 in the slightest. The earth can easily buffer it. People should be more concerned with helping the earth do it's job than stopping CO2 sources.
Yeah, who cares if there are alligators in the great lakes.
@@justtinkering6713 lol Alligators would never be interested in the Great lakes. Too funny how ignorant people can be.
Climate change won't destroy life on the planet, it's survived heaps of cataclysms. We however, won't survive if we keep going adding more greenhouse glasses to the atmosphere.
@@monsaka7827Why is there always some dumb troll attacking people?
@@fionahite170 I dunno. I like trolling other trolls and stupid people on occasion. 😁
They already do this with zinc.
Is this similar to how they powered spotlights at the 1933 World’s Fair?
Peace.
“Thus at 9:15pm on 27 May 1933, four telescopes located in different observatories captured light from Arcturus and focused it onto photoelectric cells. These cells then transformed the light into an electrical current that was amplified and sent to the Expo site on the shores of Lake Michigan. The current lit up the floodlights before a crowd of 30,000 people gathered outside the Hall of Science.”
Could be great so long as production can overcome the reduced energy density of methanol. Would be exactly the kind of thing that would get all the performance car geeks on board. Only reason they don't run methanol for daily driving is price and availability.
What part of the ozone layer is CO2, anyone know? Its 00.004% Look it up.
A Circular Economy is Essential!!
People seem to Think that Sustainable is Optional!!
It's Not!!
Namasté 🙏🕊️
Andréa and Critters. ...XxX...
It is already a circular economy, just on a longer time scale than the climate alarmists can use to transfer wealth from the common folk, into the pockets of the elites.
Tractor pulllers use Methanol, the shear torque!!
Can you mix Methanol and liquid Hydrogen??
It would solidify.
@@DavidPaulNewtonScott Oh right :/ well that ideas dissolved.
Let the plants use the CO2 and green the planet.
Rob, are u truly worried about CO2 global warming?
Yes, but is it wise to do such a thing? I hear and see a lot about climate change. I have found quite a bit of fiction and quite a bit of fact. Differentiating between the two is important. Many of the things attributed to climate change have more to do with local practices than the climate. For example farming practices that deplete the local resources to such an extent that things can't grow e.g. the American dust bowl due to over intensive farming. Improper use of water resources. The depletion of local vegetation for fuel and farmland purposes without proper forward planning. The same with natural resources. Unfortunately that's where greed takes over but not necessarily on a local level. A balance must be kept.
There seems however to be an over-emphasis on CO2 production. Plants breathe CO2 in and we obviously need a certain amount to keep things in balance. The danger I see here is that with the ever increasing energy needs, paired with ambition, greed and mankind's desire for bigger and better, that it could easily tilt the balance in the opposite direction. Just my 2 cents worth.
Any problems are caused by corporate greed, ban corporations
Better than hydrogen which is nuts however carbon would be much better and safer.
Plants die car exhaust pipe smoke u can test it ur self in closed area
The video looked like amplified sunlight. I'm unable to find figures for input watts-to-output liter. To be a true cirular system, energy input must be carbon-free. While methane is frowned upon, it is really the most practical and cheap fuel available, and once oxidized, the exhaust is 1 CO2 to 2 H2O, and methods already exist to convert methane into methanol, hydrogen, or even gasolene. Sunlight-to-methanol is great, but sunlight-to-methane-to electricity, with a fuel cell, might be even better.
I thought that what comes out of the back of a car is carbon-MONoxide (CO) not carbon DIoxide (CO2), which is plant food ?
Google it. The monoxide is what kills you quick if pump it into the car but a bunch of gases (including the dioxide) come out.
Yes please, the potential is stunning 😍
I'm no chemist but urea + cu = eureka sounds plausible XD
UNOT showing they do, rebels!
Thanks Rob. I'm in.
😮😢😂😅😊
Please Update
Be safe, be careful!! - industrial strength methanol can be inhaled, ingested or absorbed and will then cause blindness etc.
philosopher's stone?
Didn't some African schoolgirls do something similar with urine and sunlight to power generators at their school about 10 maybe more years ago.
I take it this means that my Pee Powered Car patent will finally increase in market value
Make methanol from methane , methane will heat the planet 80x faster than anything else.
Thankyou ripper video as always Rob
"UREA-KA!"
Metal 3D printers use metal powders. Might have to fo look at that old Copper video.