Chevreuse C6 vs Kazuha C2 : Raiden Team DMG Buff Comparison - Overloaded vs HyperCarry Showdown

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @urvhin
    @urvhin Год назад +24

    she's easily turned to one of the staple 4star buffing characters and even at c0. kujou sara and faruzan are similar but heavily depends on c6 and only buffs a single element. what makes chevreuse better is obviously because the buff capabilities are on the passive talents instead of constellation(thou her c6 also gives an additional buff), not only this but because she buffs pyro and electro it opens the door for pyro meta in the upcoming area, we all know hydro and dendro reactions are the best in terms of meta

  • @NonMeta_
    @NonMeta_ Год назад +93

    C6 Chevreuse is up there with the OG 4-stars.

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад +10

      support for new style :)

    • @lilchopan8418
      @lilchopan8418 Год назад +2

      No cons is already good enoug but C6 Chev is like a personalised Kazuha on roids for overload comps.

    • @randyrandom3358
      @randyrandom3358 Год назад +3

      ​@@lilchopan8418c0 is a personalized c0 Kazuha, c6 just makes it comparable to c2 Kazuha

    • @saudmubarak1542
      @saudmubarak1542 Год назад +1

      Better +30% dmg increase

    • @userNicholas13
      @userNicholas13 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@MMOJACKX57Channel Go C6 Chevreuse Clam set

  • @Hmm_okk_lol
    @Hmm_okk_lol Год назад +20

    She is insane at C6 fr..
    I can see Yoimiya overload getting back into action with Benny, Raiden and C6 Chevreuse..
    But getting her C6 will be hard af from the start, but I'll pull on whatever banner she will be up next.

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад +6

      C6 with 4 star character maybe harder than 5 star C0 , need lucky or.. 40k primogem like me

    • @Hmm_okk_lol
      @Hmm_okk_lol Год назад

      @@MMOJACKX57Channel True..
      I got C6 Sucrose after 2 years 🥲

    • @Accelerator1111
      @Accelerator1111 Год назад

      Luckily i C6 her in 16k primogems

  • @lilchopan8418
    @lilchopan8418 Год назад +4

    Her kit and and cons are 5 star level or even better. And she doesn't really require any specific stats aside from hp and a bit of ER. The only thing that limits her is her kit which is personalized for overload comps. Other than that she's an S tier support for how easy she is to build and what she can bring to the table.

  • @QuocTaHoang
    @QuocTaHoang Год назад +18

    I saw you did lost 20%-40% Electro DMG buff when you nuke at 2:12, Chevreuse C6 said "buff dmg in 8s, stack up to 3 times, each stack have it own counter", but took you 12 seconds to use Ei's burst after the first Chevreuse's healing so you lost 1-2 stacks, it passed 8 seconds. But yeah, Chevreuse will climb to Support SS tier with her C6 :), or maybe only S tier due to limited team comp or maybe she will make DIluc, Kequing, Klee and other Pyro/electro dps have new fighting style using Overload instead of Vape/Quicken and thrive once more? im gonna test it right now

    • @iafshailendra
      @iafshailendra Год назад +1

      So what are the results with standard char like dehya diluc and keqing? Are they good?

    • @tristanmanalo6252
      @tristanmanalo6252 Год назад +1

      Lyney and Yoimiya left the group 💀💀💀

    • @captainbeefheartt
      @captainbeefheartt Год назад +1

      I used her with Dehya, Omg what a duo, I do even more damage than with Kazuha

    • @divine5693
      @divine5693 Год назад

      @@iafshailendrakeqing is good just overshawdowed dehya and diluc are just bad drugs more so do

  • @MMOJACKX57Channel
    @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад +10

    better dmg on boss fight ~ 15-20% :) !

  • @maximilianbima2265
    @maximilianbima2265 Год назад +11

    Yeah I figure she's really a boss support, like if its again mobs that could be CC, It will be a nightmare. But against none CC enemy (for example ruin grader) they will be gone in seconds

    • @napuzu
      @napuzu Год назад +4

      CC? she actually can, just use her burst, its like venti trowing dodoco.

    • @TheRealTact
      @TheRealTact 9 месяцев назад

      @@napuzucap

  • @marc6186
    @marc6186 Год назад +34

    the amount of role consolidation that she has!
    1. 40% resistance shred
    2. 40% atk buff
    3. healing
    4. up to 60% dmg buff
    5. other buffs from artifact sets
    she was able to exceed a top-tier support, a 5 star at that. although her amazing kit is limited only to certain team comps, she really does her job well! i hope hoyo releases more of characters like this.

    • @Zeela47
      @Zeela47 Год назад +17

      You forgot extra cheese from pyro reso now imagine if there's also an elegy spear version 💀

    • @marc6186
      @marc6186 Год назад +1

      @@Zeela47 you're right! and to some extent, she can also battery with her C1 and if she's using fav lance

    • @krahmaz921
      @krahmaz921 Год назад +1

      But hoyo always make character like chevruse for Underwhelming reaction Bloom/Overload or even make This type of character as DPS(Navia)

    • @napuzu
      @napuzu Год назад

      don't forget the CC from her burst.

    • @ngasalaja2839
      @ngasalaja2839 Год назад

      @@krahmaz921 and i dont see anything wrong with that, that's literally their attemp to balancing the game

  • @elyeneralv5249
    @elyeneralv5249 Год назад +2

    I don't get people say she doesn't have Crowd Control, overload is one hell of a stagger/interruption for enemies even large enemies, True the drawback is enemies getting knocked back out of range sometimes but honestly those 7 seconds of raiden ult are more than enough to wipe out all enemies, how if it wasn't because of Raiden's shadow nerf it would've been much less of an issue D': would be teleporting across the arena without having to move with keys.

  • @arknv5112
    @arknv5112 11 месяцев назад +3

    Chevy bouta shine more with upcoming fontaine overload units (Arlecchino and Chlorinde) having her c6 is a worth investment for me

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  11 месяцев назад

      hope rerun on 4.6 :)

    • @arknv5112
      @arknv5112 11 месяцев назад

      @@MMOJACKX57Channel would be a nice banner, but i think it's too soon thinking she's gonna be on Chlorinde banner eitherway she'll be a good support for both of them (hopefully)

  • @RumelMarble
    @RumelMarble Год назад +5

    I did around 130 wishes on this banner hoping for Chevreuse. I got C6 Bennet and C3 Chev instead. I guess I'll have to prepare wishes when Natlan comes up

  • @ranges787
    @ranges787 Год назад +2

    i highly believe that cloud retainer will actually be better for hypercarry raiden than it is now.
    with bennett and CRs signature getting 4500 atk is easy game.
    the 9k flat dmg she will give will lead to devastating raiden plunges.
    so i believe that CR will actually swap out kazuha in a boss scenario

  • @kaibacorp13
    @kaibacorp13 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much, this was exactly what I looking for. You saved a f2p a lot of pain of searching in RUclips and saving primogem in game I would c2 r5 my kazuha if it was raiden best team but c6 chevreuse is stronger right now, so I wait for chevreuse rerun to get her c6 (currently c4)

  • @CryzlerXV
    @CryzlerXV Год назад +3

    Damn you guys are lucky to get c6 chevruse I'm here with a c6 raiden shogun a yoimiya and c6 sara with c5 bennett but c0 chevruse I think only the c6 matters in this case for chevruse

  • @blubblub3786
    @blubblub3786 Год назад +4

    I can confirm even without building stacks for her c6, you get more damage out of her.
    For the first hit in abyss im looking at 490k vs 455k with kazuha.
    Also chevy doesn't hog bennett uptime and you can re-shred before you brust on raiden if you have c6 bennet, giving you way better uptime on all buffs.
    You are loosing out on kazuhas swirl and overload damage tho, which will close the gap a bit especially in aoe.

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад

      yeah , but sometime your dps just get ~ 20-40% DMG bonus by C6

    • @arfanghani2453
      @arfanghani2453 Год назад

      ​@@MMOJACKX57Channelrip er Raiden

    • @LightzyyOnline
      @LightzyyOnline 3 месяца назад

      Have you gotten C6 Chev yet? She's on banner right now :)

    • @blubblub3786
      @blubblub3786 3 месяца назад

      @@LightzyyOnline got really lucky on my Raiden pulls on her first run. C6 Sarah and C6 Chevy in like 200 pulls :)
      Also my first hit in abyss has since gone up to 590k with Raiden.

  • @CasaVeraArquitetura
    @CasaVeraArquitetura 9 месяцев назад +1

    With another artifact set on Chev maybe the Raiden Burst initial damage would be close to the C2 Kazuha team

  • @shironekoakari001
    @shironekoakari001 Год назад +7

    Inabikari Sunawachi Eien Nari , Slashhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @napuzu
    @napuzu Год назад +1

    She even do small/medium area for CC with her burst for Raiden, just imagine venti trowing multiple dodoco, like.. what is this character?

  • @ThorDrJones
    @ThorDrJones Год назад +4

    dammm that crit ratio was something else then I saw the food buff LOL 20% CR and 20% CD NICE

    • @ranges787
      @ranges787 Год назад +1

      perfect raiden is 78/156 with 270 ER without food.
      but for this to happen you need 38 crit value and 10% ER on every single piece… hahaha just a fun fact :)
      mine is 58/161 with 270 ER and i doubt that i will ever get better artifacts for her haha after farming for over a year
      you can say there is still more crit value possible but for that you need 5 perfect artifacts with all rolls high stats so a 5 piece set of 45 crit value and 10% ER is possible but you can farm for the next 10 years and will never see this because you need perfect artifacts and there are day 1 players out there who don’t have a single 50 crit value piece…

    • @raymund2980
      @raymund2980 Год назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@ranges787I saw number 1 raiden in Akashacv with 80/170 with 270+ Er and I personally think that’s peak raiden. Is 78/156 really peak? cuz I can make mine 75/160/ 270 Er but my attack suffers at only 1800 with r1 engulfing. So I’m currently sitting her at 66/171/270 Er with almost 2k attack

    • @ranges787
      @ranges787 Год назад +1

      @@raymund2980 she has raw
      5% crit
      50%crit dmg
      132% ER
      now crit 62% on helmet
      55% ER on weapon and 51% on artifact
      that leaves you with
      122 crit and 238 ER base without stats on artifacts
      so now you need 32% more ER thats 3 rolls+ base ER
      so you need 2 50% crit value artifacts and 3 42% crit artifacts with 1 ER roll and leaves you with exactly 356 crit
      356:2 =178
      178:2= 89
      so the absolut max raiden can ever have in this game is 89/178 270ER without food
      BUT 80/170 270 is beyond broken and my original numbers are the MAX realistic numbers

    • @ranges787
      @ranges787 Год назад +1

      @@raymund2980 btw your raiden is crazy only 53 crit value difference to the absolute max 👌so you basically have 37 average crit artifacts with ER those are madman stats and you have a perfect raiden with non perfect 1/2 crit ratio but still it’s unlikely that you will ever see one with a better raiden in the game

    • @raymund2980
      @raymund2980 Год назад +1

      @@ranges787 aww thanks bro I appreciate that! it took me 1.5 years and I'm still noot satisfied with it lmao

  • @Rodosuvall
    @Rodosuvall Год назад +2

    And i think you can do even better like 1.5 M. With 6000 Atq. 200 crit and recharge 300 after Q. Great work

  • @siam3854
    @siam3854 3 месяца назад +1

    That fkin c6 raiden jumpscare got me

  • @assangewikileaks8546
    @assangewikileaks8546 4 месяца назад +1

    So the only visible difference is pyro reso. We saw electro damg buff is similar kazua also has stronger electro res shred.
    So what is hapenning exactly , i guess it implies that chev healTOdamage artifact set bonus is huge

  • @Shade_of_KinG
    @Shade_of_KinG Год назад +4

    Just remember it works only with pyro and electro teams against bosses. Kazuha is still better for others.

    • @ayyjay1575
      @ayyjay1575 Год назад +7

      thats the good thing, for those other teams now you can use kazuha without downgrading your raiden hyper (atleast for bosses and non cc enemies)

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад +1

      kazuha better on AOE

  • @KontauriC07
    @KontauriC07 Год назад +2

    I'd stay with Kazuha especially in mob situations

  • @ragebrage
    @ragebrage Год назад +1

    I kinda regret sinking everything in to the weapon banner now... I need her

  • @Scared1876
    @Scared1876 Год назад +2

    Love the video, the showcases, the timestamps !!

  • @Thekomokoro
    @Thekomokoro Год назад +1

    Kuki, Faruzan, Chevreuse are the recent OP 4-star support for me.

  • @aang2364
    @aang2364 Год назад +1

    I have a question about "Elegy" an "freedom sworn".
    it say "Of the many effects of the "Millennial Movement," buffs of the same type will not stack"
    They both have 20% attk increase at r1,
    will it be 40% when both them in one team??

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад

      not stacks %atk buff , but stacks 200 EM bro :)

    • @aang2364
      @aang2364 Год назад

      @@MMOJACKX57Channel this is Freedom Sworn: "Millennial Movement: Song of Resistance" increases Normal, Charged, and Plunging Attack DMG by 16% and increases ATK by 20%. Once this effect is triggered, you will not gain Sigils of Rebellion for 20s.
      Of the many effects of the "Millennial Movement," buffs of the same type will not stack.
      ELEGY:"Millennial Movement: Farewell Song" increases Elemental Mastery by 100 and increases ATK by 20%. Once this effect is triggered, you will not gain Sigils of Remembrance for 20s.
      Of the many effects of the "Millennial Movement," buffs of the same type will not stack.

    • @aang2364
      @aang2364 Год назад

      @@MMOJACKX57Channel they both say 20% attck at the end line.

    • @aang2364
      @aang2364 Год назад

      @@MMOJACKX57Channel are they stack the attck?

    • @nasagirl0
      @nasagirl0 Год назад

      I had this question tpp

  • @ZarelaElf
    @ZarelaElf Год назад +1

    I came here from that one person crying about your tiktok comment 😂

  • @juhaa-a
    @juhaa-a Год назад +1

    thank you for the video jack

  • @kerimmirzeyev4340
    @kerimmirzeyev4340 Год назад +3

    damn so she surpassed, Kazuha in hypercarry Raiden team

  • @ny6978
    @ny6978 Год назад +2

    What are your sands/gob/circ for Chev and Sara?

  • @yuclase
    @yuclase Год назад +1

    Damn now im hesitating if i should pull for c6 chev on raiden banner with my 200 wishes

    • @FAST81000
      @FAST81000 Год назад

      I got her to c5 in 245

    • @yuclase
      @yuclase Год назад

      ​@@FAST81000 thats alot with only c5 😭 it's so hard to get a certain 4* than the 5* but im still not sure if im gonna pull

  • @Badkhela
    @Badkhela Год назад +1

    I got c0 chey this banner. Im going to wait until she comes back in arlecchino banner.

  • @Phantom-z9y
    @Phantom-z9y Год назад +2

    Damn C6 chevruse beating Kazuha in buffing capabilities

  • @mehdixxx1057
    @mehdixxx1057 Год назад +2

    Can u make abyss video with same teams

  • @Raydrxs
    @Raydrxs Год назад +1

    Do you think the Harp on Sara would be better than Elegy? since Kazuha has Freedom Sworn.

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад +2

      this bow bonus 200 EM then kazuha change to DMG bonus :)

    • @IbrahimSharkerMaruf
      @IbrahimSharkerMaruf Год назад +1

      ​​@@MMOJACKX57ChannelAs far I know kazuha only buff on his own original EM only... if you buff his em with the help of any weapon or even Sucrose he doesn't give the dmg buff based on this method

    • @carlosabelhernandez5740
      @carlosabelhernandez5740 Год назад

      Flat em bonus work for kazuha, like instructor set and Diona c6​@@IbrahimSharkerMaruf

    • @Raydrxs
      @Raydrxs Год назад

      @memelover3527 Yea true, but I just tested both Elegy and Harp after this video, for unknown reason My raiden did 8k-9k more with Elegy than skyward Harp on Sara, also Kazuha with FS, not sure if it's the EM from Elegy converted to damage bonus or something else, as you said sucrose's em doesn't count as damage bonus that kazuha converts, not even weapon like Nilou's sword, not sure about the Elegy.

  • @DylxnZtheParatoad
    @DylxnZtheParatoad Год назад

    Quick question: My raiden is c2 is sara better to buff my raidens damage or should i swap her for xiangling?

    • @DylxnZtheParatoad
      @DylxnZtheParatoad Год назад

      Update: Got c3 raiden on a single at 20 pity. I was just tryna build pity but I'll take it😂. Now I'm defo just gonna buff my raidens damage

  • @SB-hg3rr
    @SB-hg3rr Год назад +1

    Never realized c6 chev could be this good, i was pulling for c3 raiden (shes c3 now) and got c6 chev unintentionally im definitely gonna build her now

  • @OkayAscent
    @OkayAscent Год назад +2

    How about not waiting for 3 ticks of hea before raiden ulti? Can u make a video without that wait time? or even a short will do

    • @ceejayy2076
      @ceejayy2076 Год назад +1

      Youll only gain like 20% by the time you use raiden burst if im not mistaken (or maybe none since the interval is long), but youll still get the full buff since raiden will be on field by the time the buff gets full stacks
      I wished they just put a wide healing, at least once, on her c6 so at least everyone will get at least one stack of the buff

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад

      if you wait just max DMG with first DMG burst of Raiden , if you fast combo > max DMG with charged atk combo after using burst

    • @Rodosuvall
      @Rodosuvall Год назад

      It will be worst by -40% electro bonus

  • @windowschrome6591
    @windowschrome6591 Год назад +2

    How come my raiden c3 r1 is doing more burst damage than your's even tho my supports (kazuha c2, sara c6 and bennet c5) only have f2p 4* weapons? We almost have similar stats on raiden too.

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад

      no idea :D

    • @chiakinanami965
      @chiakinanami965 Год назад

      cuz his build isnt the best its called luck, anyways nobody cares get over yourself

    • @windowschrome6591
      @windowschrome6591 Год назад +1

      @@chiakinanami965 come on man, I'm not trying to prove anything else here. Just asking tho...

  • @saii55
    @saii55 Год назад +1

    Raiden burst does snapshot??

  • @thelovejuices5077
    @thelovejuices5077 Год назад +1

    I knew that she would buff this team better than kazuha but 200k+...

  • @preydatorz
    @preydatorz Год назад +1

    Does it also buff keqinq???

  • @ceejayy2076
    @ceejayy2076 Год назад +2

    Does this also include full stacks from artifacts?

  • @Genesiscrystal1123
    @Genesiscrystal1123 4 месяца назад +1

    Is C2 bene goos?

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  4 месяца назад

      yeah , C2 = 200% so good for reaction Melt or vaporize

  • @Bunny_Edith
    @Bunny_Edith Год назад +6

    Ok, hear me out.
    I unironically think Cheuvreuse is better character than Bennett.

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад +7

      bennett can mix on every team , Chevreuse just on overloaded team :)

    • @wantu7816
      @wantu7816 Год назад

      I agree if you compare both at c0. Bennett is a pretty incomplete unit without his c1.

    • @tristanmanalo6252
      @tristanmanalo6252 Год назад

      At C0 yes but at C6 not 😅😅😅

  • @kimhoangtran2641
    @kimhoangtran2641 Год назад +1

    Can you try diluc vs chevreuse team ? Pls i'm main diluc ❤

  • @ShukoKuriyami
    @ShukoKuriyami Год назад +1

    No: Chevreus And Kazuha Support comparison
    Yes: Use them both

  • @AmriNasti21
    @AmriNasti21 Год назад

    i'm lucky, while trying to get C3 Raiden (C1 already) got C6 Chevreuse with extra Raiden C4 + Engulfing with 240 IF

    • @ahmedhossam6384
      @ahmedhossam6384 Год назад

      Oh that's a good luck
      With 175 pulls
      Lost 50/50 , got c0 raiden and c6 Bennett
      Mine is the worst i think

  • @kalkomsksikru
    @kalkomsksikru Год назад +2

    Now make one for vape and melt 🤣

    • @chonkhampter
      @chonkhampter Год назад

      Cheveruese is an overload support. So vape or melt won't make sense

    • @kalkomsksikru
      @kalkomsksikru Год назад +1

      @@chonkhampter what I meant is make a chevruese like support for vape or melt.

  • @ShukoKuriyami
    @ShukoKuriyami Год назад +1

    No: Chevreus And Kazuha Support comparison
    Yes: Use them both

    • @MMOJACKX57Channel
      @MMOJACKX57Channel  Год назад

      hmm :)

    • @Dan713
      @Dan713 Год назад

      That's what I thought but she needs the whole team to be pyro and electro for her passive.

    • @ShukoKuriyami
      @ShukoKuriyami Год назад

      @@Dan713 i thought u only need one pyro and electro for her passive bruu... That can only mean Canadian Aether is still better in terms of team Comps since you can place him in Nearly all Kinds of Team