She needed a business partner, not an investor. Company recently moved from a home address to an office address, so she might be making progress. She had 2 employees in 2021, which went back to 0 currently, so she might have made a mistake there. Currently 40k in red, with 16k in assets. Not a great success yet, but also not a nightmare either.
The reason they were nice was because she was honest and her product looks actually good. She didn't claim her business to be worth something outlandishly big (which I've seen in other episodes) and she had a humble attitude. She also reacted well to criticism. They hate liars who pretend something to get investment money.
She is utterly clueless bless her, more worried about what she looks like. this is a business purely for her to make a bit of money. no way is it worthy of an investment
Depends. If the style and build quality are there, there's no reason for it not to succeed; assuming a healthy 100% margin (all the designers are at least that)
No, she's okay, she's a creative! Right before I had a meeting with one of those really creative types, for my own business or for an organisation that I was active in, years ago, someone else who I mentioned this to, someone who also had her own business and like me was doing very down to earth techy things, warned me in advance, and I'm glad that she did. Because if you don't know what creative types are like, it can really throw you.
It is worthy of an investment, the dragons this days don't like to take risks anymore. I thought Toucker had the right business to invest in her at a 50-50 partnership especially after commending her about the quality of the british made hand bags. Its sad he didn't see it that way. 😕
"Utterly clueless" Oh okay that's why every dragon sincerely complimented the beauty of her product. "more worried about what she looks like" Please point to the bit that backs up this ridiculous point. "bless her" lol what a tedious little bottom feeder, get better opinions.
I had both a bag and shoes with eel skin on them and all of those little scales eventually lifted up and then looked cheap and trashy. It wasn't like it could be fixed unless you wanted to pay someone to glue down each and every one of those little scales which would be ridiculous and cost more than the original price of the bag. And I think she's asking way too much to start out. If a celebrity would eventually buy one, then she could jack up her prices. I wouldn't recommend eel skin any day of the week.
Most folks here criticizing her... Yet doesn't have one thing they've "achieved" in their lives! We are so quick to criticise! This is someone who have taken an idea into reality! If it's that easy for you, go and put out your ideas, and pitch yourself to these guys! Let's see if you can do it... Let's be nice!
She talked that fast I couldn't understand a word. She got off lightly even after agreeing it was too early for investment. That bag she was holding looked like a cheap birthday gift bag. Not a great design especially for the price point.
I like her, I like her product, she's not an investable business unfortunately, but all she said rang true - a lot of wastage... I'm worried about how much of the bag is actually fish leather, though.. 5%? 20%?
This lady has dyspraxia - a brain injury caused by inflammation to her brain from a bout of chicken pox. I think she is amazing and brave for having this disability to contend with.
Hey British fellows, greatings from across the Channel, what is that lady's accent ? I love the diversity and variaty in british accents, but can barely recognise any ... While we're at it, the other people in the clip, what is their accent ? Thanks!
Same here. She's a creative, and she knows it and openly admits it. I got used to the voice too. She was nervous, too, at first. That's part of why she was talking so fast at first, I bet
P but not everyone has seen it. I've never seen this before I've been watching dragons shark tank Lion's den all of these pitch competitions for 10-15 years I've never seen this particular episode.
@@JazzyMarineVetits likely they are referring to this one being on the BBC You Tube channel. This pitch is from S20 so 2023, its not even that old. Is there a Lions Den channel?
If you listen, sometimes she sounds like a video you have put on double speed or 1.5 speed lol Bless her little cotton socks, she did well but is clueless, its a nice business perhaps for her but it would never make an investment size
I love art, but I would hate to be an artist... you're either dirt poor 99% of the time, or you make millions... and nobody can predict it one way or the other. Artists are brave people, man.
Does anybody have anything positive to say? I agree that her presentation style was unorthodox and her voice can make for difficult listening; however, the discredit she is receiving in the comments is disgusting. With a price point of 595 against a production cost of around 150, she is achieving what most “non-volume” businesses are trying to achieve. With only having sold two, there is obviously something going wrong, whether it be the market or her - most likely the latter, we still don’t fully know. If the price point is of concern, perhaps dropping it and seeing how many are sold at a lower price point will give an indication of why they aren’t selling.
The North African continent use fish leather for years. It is incredibly fragile unless you take extreme care of them and the leather just falls apart..... There is a reason this isn't used elsewhere. People have tried making shoes with this. It looks like crocodile skin. Quite frankly; if fish leather was sustainable it would already be being used by all the big existing names because it is CHEAP.
yeah, is kind of offputting watching Peter being a good, polite and concerning guy hahaha He used to take the lead to roast products and enterpreneurs!
The way she talks, it sounds like she's constantly on the verge of crying.
her accent, the way her plosives and nasal tones go, it sounds like she's speaking on 1.2x speed
I was just going to comment the same thing ahah! 1.2x to 1.75x even ahah
I think she's just nervous and her voice is coming out jittery because of it
She suffers from dyspraxia - a brain injury causing multiple disabilities.
@@CraftingMyWorld when was that mentioned? I must've skipped over that part. Or did you read it somewhere else, maybe on a bio of her?
Yeah I thought she was talking in fast forward
she sounds like lumpy space princess on speed
And ludes
@@philipbrit13 More speed than downers.
💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣
oh meeh gawd guys! 🤣
She's not on speed. Merely in a hurry.
She sounds like she is talking underwater
Right does she need a snorkel to fix that 😱😱😱😂😂😂
That's what I was about to say
It's on brand 😂
😂😂😂
I honestly thought the video was on speed play, I even checked just to make sure it isn’t 😂
Maybe I'm just a mug falling for a script - but it genuinely seems Touka is a kind-hearted human.
TOUKER !!! Lol
They all have their moments
Sarah is the only human on the panel
You must have some shocking judgement Jesus Christ
She seemed really nervous at the beginning, bless her 🤣❤️ seems like a really genuine and open person though - hope she does well 👌
It took A LOT of courage for her to go forth and stand with her product on the den. Kudos girl!
She speaks on 2x speed naturally
I think it's actually the bad pronunciation that makes it look like that
She needed a business partner, not an investor. Company recently moved from a home address to an office address, so she might be making progress. She had 2 employees in 2021, which went back to 0 currently, so she might have made a mistake there. Currently 40k in red, with 16k in assets. Not a great success yet, but also not a nightmare either.
That weird way she speaks through her throat makes it very difficult to understand what she is saying
Sorry, I can't listen to her after 3 minutes.
Lol
I’m surprised no one offered her a lozenge
I thought it was a different english dialect unknown to me...😂😅😂😊
I thought it was playing at 1.5x speed had to check youtube settings
Artemis has come a long way since she left Philadelphia, she became a white Welsh woman!
Was looking for this comment🤣
Thank you. Was thinking who does she remind me of?
her voice is very…unique
Polite way of putting it
😅
You mean annoying?
Sounds so weird.
Agreed! @@kevinnandkishore9111
how does this business scale?
Badum Tsss
@@bandicamwarrior7591thx :p
It don’t
Fair play to Touka, he might give her the support she needs to make it happen.
I'm surprised the Dragons were so nice to be honest. She's way too early for an investment
The reason they were nice was because she was honest and her product looks actually good. She didn't claim her business to be worth something outlandishly big (which I've seen in other episodes) and she had a humble attitude. She also reacted well to criticism.
They hate liars who pretend something to get investment money.
She is utterly clueless bless her, more worried about what she looks like. this is a business purely for her to make a bit of money. no way is it worthy of an investment
Depends. If the style and build quality are there, there's no reason for it not to succeed; assuming a healthy 100% margin (all the designers are at least that)
No, she's okay, she's a creative! Right before I had a meeting with one of those really creative types, for my own business or for an organisation that I was active in, years ago, someone else who I mentioned this to, someone who also had her own business and like me was doing very down to earth techy things, warned me in advance, and I'm glad that she did. Because if you don't know what creative types are like, it can really throw you.
It is worthy of an investment, the dragons this days don't like to take risks anymore. I thought Toucker had the right business to invest in her at a 50-50 partnership especially after commending her about the quality of the british made hand bags. Its sad he didn't see it that way. 😕
"Utterly clueless" Oh okay that's why every dragon sincerely complimented the beauty of her product.
"more worried about what she looks like" Please point to the bit that backs up this ridiculous point.
"bless her" lol what a tedious little bottom feeder, get better opinions.
I wouldn't be so sure - there were unanimous ringing endorsements from the fashion dragons that count- and that counts for a lot
Who meddled with the speed settings on the entrepreneurs voice?
I genuinely had to check out my settings too
I really like this lady.. I get a great vibe off her. And those bags are fire.
Yeah a vibe like she’s on speed 😂
This comment was from the woman wasn’t it.
She seems very passionate about it. All the best to her.
Those bags look fun. Are they Different sizes?
That was really nice of Touker.
I wish her all the best.
Everyone cut her some slack. Ain't a girl allowed to dream? I think she seems like a lot of fun.
Fun? Like 24/7 almost crying
that was so great of Touker, she is so lovely and I absolutely love the bags!
She has a website and is still in business. Kudos to her!!!
Just because someone has a website and still in business doesn't mean they're doing well at all
I'd be surprised if it wasn't. This is a relatively new episode.
Shes still got 30 bags to sell
The bran seem to have a lot of potential, I wish her luck. And she was born with a very fashion-brand-ish name, it sounds nice.
She wears her heart on her sleeve
I had both a bag and shoes with eel skin on them and all of those little scales eventually lifted up and then looked cheap and trashy. It wasn't like it could be fixed unless you wanted to pay someone to glue down each and every one of those little scales which would be ridiculous and cost more than the original price of the bag. And I think she's asking way too much to start out. If a celebrity would eventually buy one, then she could jack up her prices.
I wouldn't recommend eel skin any day of the week.
maybe she wanted to scale up her business
@@tuckedup That was hilarious 😆😂
That fake pout she’s doing with he mouth is really irritating
She was probably bullied a lot during her teenage years and became obsessed with her looks and image *voice*
I don't think she does it consciously. Don't mock her please
So annoying to look at and hear,shes nuts
I'm definitely mocking her! weirdo @@Lommy9999
She talks like i'm watching the video on x2 speed
Peter's reaction to when she said 2 cracked me up 😂
Class from Touker
Listening to 'Moray' talk makes me feel like I just accepted a pill from a guy with no teeth and talks in riddles.
When Deberah mentioned her 'assets' 😂
Looks like she made it. Saw her website. Truly cool products. All the best to her!
What's her website thanks
Most folks here criticizing her... Yet doesn't have one thing they've "achieved" in their lives!
We are so quick to criticise! This is someone who have taken an idea into reality! If it's that easy for you, go and put out your ideas, and pitch yourself to these guys! Let's see if you can do it...
Let's be nice!
That bag looked top-notch quality
Is this real?? 🙄They must be running out of people.
She has enormous cans
I know! Only 2 sales
if this was a guy he'd be slated for being clueless
She's come into the den for a business partner rather than an investor. There's no business to invest here yet.
A fashion desinger who can't figure out how to keep the space between her blouse buttons from gapping? Oh, why am I even watching?
Because her blouse buttons keep gapping
She was a busty lady!
I did not understand a word. Imagine that’s your girl yelling at you.. makes you rub your ears with glass shards
😂😂
Watching this in 2x speed is bloody hilarious
Same @@JPC1999
She talked that fast I couldn't understand a word. She got off lightly even after agreeing it was too early for investment. That bag she was holding looked like a cheap birthday gift bag. Not a great design especially for the price point.
”I’m kind of a free spirit. I’m not allowed to tell you guys that.”
..Say that again?
I like her, I like her product, she's not an investable business unfortunately, but all she said rang true - a lot of wastage... I'm worried about how much of the bag is actually fish leather, though.. 5%? 20%?
How can you be a designer and have that on?!
Can tell she's really keen about fish, she puts her lips out like one
Her brain:
10% focus on investment pitch
90% focus on pouting
I was absolutely looking for this comment 😂😂😂 I thought it was just me!
It's a nervous tick. Be kind!!
@@Lommy9999 no
Pitches like these are why Duncan and Theo need to come back!
The bat crazy is strong in this one.
Women constantly getting a free pass on this show. Terrible presentation.
No wonderful presentation. ❤
She has a disability, which might account for it.
This lady has dyspraxia - a brain injury caused by inflammation to her brain from a bout of chicken pox. I think she is amazing and brave for having this disability to contend with.
@@CraftingMyWorld Do you have to remember where you learned that? I would love to hear more from her.
Website is nice and it just takes one celeb to use one
You couldn't be more RIGHT!! It will eventually happen if she stays in business long enough.
She from Porthcawl nice to see a Welsh entrepreneur
scraping the barrel for people now
She's dyspraxic which might account for her presentation style. She's got a good business, good for her ❤
@@Claudiaxyz why didnt she present the good business then? not the fish bag one
@@Claudiaxyzshe's sold 2 she hasn't got a good business
nice bags, not sure about the price point and she is totally inept at running a business. she needs a lot of active support
I have an eel skin purse. Fish skin is tougher than bovine leather & lasts for ever.
Fish skin is normally laminated OVER cowhide to make it stronger because eel skin is much thinner than cowhide. So it's a combination of BOTH.
"There's a once on a lifetime climate event every two weeks". I would be out that second.
If i were a dragon, i'd give her 30K to stop talking and leave the den
😂😂
Smells a bit fishy to me.
What did she say?
What is she saying?
Couldn't push them sand bags up any higher 😮
One was way low, poor thing. A reduction might help a lot.
Look at how superficial you guys are
:p
cannot understand her.... but OMG! Ill take one of those bags in every colour!
She is the embodiment of GenZ
She’s great and she sounds great.
Hey British fellows, greatings from across the Channel, what is that lady's accent ?
I love the diversity and variaty in british accents, but can barely recognise any ...
While we're at it, the other people in the clip, what is their accent ? Thanks!
Wow this woman speaks very quickly.
I really thought Touka would invest ^ ^
I had no problem with her at all.
Her voice surprised me at first but I quickly got used to it!"
Same here. She's a creative, and she knows it and openly admits it. I got used to the voice too. She was nervous, too, at first. That's part of why she was talking so fast at first, I bet
YOU GUYS ALREADY POSTED THIS YEARS AGO
Yeah, Deborah would be proud of the way they're recycling these clips.
@@BenjaminGoose🤣🤣🤣
P but not everyone has seen it. I've never seen this before I've been watching dragons shark tank Lion's den all of these pitch competitions for 10-15 years I've never seen this particular episode.
@@JazzyMarineVetits likely they are referring to this one being on the BBC You Tube channel. This pitch is from S20 so 2023, its not even that old.
Is there a Lions Den channel?
@@BenjaminGoosethere you are Ben glad you see your still around. Somebody should really disconnect your internet though
The Cat walk by T.S !!!😂😂😂😂😂❤
why she about cry before she even started lol
its your typical gen z tiktok user
To draw in sympathy 😂
Peter: What would be really great is could you tell us how much money you are looking for today?
That was a whirlwind
What’s with the quick quick slow speech. ? Sounds like a UZI
If you listen, sometimes she sounds like a video you have put on double speed or 1.5 speed lol Bless her little cotton socks, she did well but is clueless, its a nice business perhaps for her but it would never make an investment size
She seems to speak on x1.25 speed… 🤔
All I could think of was burlesque 😮 great designer bags
30 time s
150
Totally 4500
Not 15k
@@Orca2015there is no guarantee they will ever sell at 595 and she might have to take a loss.
What she saying again 😂
Her voice is something else
If I close my eyes, she kind of sounds like Nigel Thornberry gargling water in haste.
Omg really? They just accept anyone for this show now?
Initial minute, I thaught I played on 1.5x
Her name is Moray and they are fish bags lol
A Chanel bag costs below 100£ and selling for 500£. She really needs to find new producers.
I love art, but I would hate to be an artist... you're either dirt poor 99% of the time, or you make millions... and nobody can predict it one way or the other. Artists are brave people, man.
I would just supply the leather to fashion houses instead of dabbling in design and making.
Sold 2 and thinks it’s a business 😂😂😂
Free advertising 😅
Does anybody have anything positive to say? I agree that her presentation style was unorthodox and her voice can make for difficult listening; however, the discredit she is receiving in the comments is disgusting. With a price point of 595 against a production cost of around 150, she is achieving what most “non-volume” businesses are trying to achieve. With only having sold two, there is obviously something going wrong, whether it be the market or her - most likely the latter, we still don’t fully know. If the price point is of concern, perhaps dropping it and seeing how many are sold at a lower price point will give an indication of why they aren’t selling.
Is this some kind of new English dialect?
Not a bag person, but these honestly look fresh:) hope they are available to shipp to mainland EU?
The North African continent use fish leather for years. It is incredibly fragile unless you take extreme care of them and the leather just falls apart..... There is a reason this isn't used elsewhere.
People have tried making shoes with this. It looks like crocodile skin.
Quite frankly; if fish leather was sustainable it would already be being used by all the big existing names because it is CHEAP.
She is so nutty 😂 I checked 3 times if I run RUclips on 2X speed 😂
I'm sorry but her name is Moray, she's literally named after an eel. 😂
It's giving South African Debby Ryan.
Love the bag and her
She is so annoying, dear Lord
Think this is the lowest amount asked for at a fair percentage too 👀
Her accent already big NO . Probably worst entrepreneur ever walked in.
Is she speaking in a mermaid tone. I needed to watch this with subtitles
The older seasons are better
yeah, is kind of offputting watching Peter being a good, polite and concerning guy hahaha He used to take the lead to roast products and enterpreneurs!