Joel you did once again, the great bridge builder. I'm being turned off by Jame Whites push back to Eric Con , and Yet Eric's silence on explanation leaves me in a fog as to what's going on . Thankful for the work you guys are doing . And fostering that additude of brotherly charity despite disagreement needs to continue on if we wonna build something lasting as God's ppl.
Great show as always guys. I am a 53 year old pastor. Been in the ministry three decades. Yet I am privileged to sit at your feet and learn every week.
That’s sad about that opc church. I go to an opc and ours didn’t close but a couple weeks and then the pastor sent a letter to the county officials explaining their duty to them.
My sincere question would be; What can we learn from secular philosophers that we can't learn from Scripture? Of course, unbelievers know things, but is it anything novel to God's Word, no!
You can learn from anyone. But the reality is that God is a God we must serve. His Word is Holy. If what we read outside of the word of God denys his word or goes against it, well, don't listen. We can learn from anyone. God gives to who he chooses. It's good to search things out as long as we are strong enough in our faith with the Lord.
@@unkown312 All truth belongs to God. If anyone says something that is true, it is because people can have knowledge and know things, but if that person doesn't acknowledge God as the truth giver, then he/she can't justify why something is true. My point is that we have God and His Word as the only standard for truth, we don't need any secularist to try and give us something new and profound.
I have three faves, in no particular order. This one, Reformation Red Pill Podcast, and Shepherd's Church (CREC). All postmills with substantial content, either theological, or cultural/political. Pastor Kendal Lankford just started a series on why voting for democrats is a SIN. It's gonna be good! Go give those brothers some love!
Are we going to ever see more open engagement and dialogue with the growing Monarchist wing of the movement? Some of us don’t believe getting back to a Republic is possible or desirable.
You know who has wisdom??? The eastern Orthodox. My brother is one and he has been preaching this episode for decades! My brother has always encouraged me to read the classics and says reformed people lack humility
Perhaps a general equity theonomist and postmillenialist can adopt "wisdom" to manage things not explicitly taught in scripture like immigration. Solomon offered to chop an infant in two to identify the rightful mother. Not sure that would be expressed as a "general equity" principle for us to use apart from wisdom. You can't give your neighbor your cloak if you don't have one.
I think the full context of Gabe's comment on tax credits is he sees them as a cheap substitute for not actually lowering the tax burden, so it's a vote-getting pandering to a specific group instead of being equal across citizens, as taxes should be. That's where the socialism comes in. But in your defense, he phrased that poorly on X.
He meant that God is a ruler, and heaven is full of people from all nations and ethnicities, as God, the ruler of rulers, has willed it to be that way. God did not create many different peoples for the sake of chaos. Of course, Aristotle was talking about earthly rulers, not the Heavenly Father. Even though the Kingdom of God is a multi-ethnic "state," Aristotle is probably right.
Joel, respond please to my criticizms of your civil war views under that video. This is important. You need some loving push back here. .....because you and Jon Harris made some huge errors in thinking.
Question that was posed to Joel: Do you understand that even Wolfe has stated his natural law position is incompatible with Theonomy? Why specifically do you think you can ride the fence between the two? Your mischaracterization of Theonomy was something to behold. "Libertarian-Boomerism?" You have no clue what you are talking about, but when all else fails, labeling and name-calling is the default position. But more importantly, you never answered the question posed to you. You simply blew it off by saying, "I don't think it (i.e. answering the question) is the greatest need of the cultural, political, and even theological moment." How is whether God's law or man's law is to be the foundation for cultural and political reformation not "of the moment" when it is essential to how they are to be reconstructed or reformed? God's law is antithetical to any form of natural law theory, which is both arbitrary and subjective. But I have little doubt that so-called "general equity theonomists" like you and Wilson and the entire "Moscow Crowd" will continue to refuse to answer this question. And the reason for not doing so is evident. You can't because unlike Wolfe on this point, you won't go on record stating that natural law and Theonomy are incompatible, because they are.
Furthermore, your characterization of theonomic immigration policy as being "naive" is amazing. Besides your hypothetical being really naive, let's say that what you portrayed as being theonomic immigration policy is accurate? Do you rally have the audacity to call God's standard "naive" and Wolfe's natural law theory being the "Christian way" to go? I don't really think you have a grasp of what Theonomy actually teaches.
I thought the same thing. Dr. Bahnsen would be ripping his hair out listening to this episode. It was unfortunate to hear for sure and it made me doubt whether Joel, our brother, understands presuppositionalism or theonomy at all. Thomism is antithetical to Calvinism, especially presupp and theonomic ideas, and they cannot be reconciled. This is why Dr. Van Til singled out Aquinas over and over again for destruction, because Aquinas’ ideas are diametrically opposed to his own.
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Joel you did once again, the great bridge builder.
I'm being turned off by Jame Whites push back to Eric Con , and Yet Eric's silence on explanation leaves me in a fog as to what's going on .
Thankful for the work you guys are doing .
And fostering that additude of brotherly charity despite disagreement needs to continue on if we wonna build something lasting as God's ppl.
@@titustschetter9279 Really appreciate this brother. Thank you!
Yes, repeal the 19th. a Christian wife & mother.
WTAF lol
Great show as always guys. I am a 53 year old pastor. Been in the ministry three decades. Yet I am privileged to sit at your feet and learn every week.
Congratulations on baby girl #4!
@@dillonpeters2729 thank you!
I agree with repealing the 19th and having some kind of land owning requirement to vote. Maybe just half an acre or so would be good.
That’s sad about that opc church. I go to an opc and ours didn’t close but a couple weeks and then the pastor sent a letter to the county officials explaining their duty to them.
My sincere question would be; What can we learn from secular philosophers that we can't learn from Scripture? Of course, unbelievers know things, but is it anything novel to God's Word, no!
You can learn from anyone. But the reality is that God is a God we must serve. His Word is Holy. If what we read outside of the word of God denys his word or goes against it, well, don't listen. We can learn from anyone. God gives to who he chooses. It's good to search things out as long as we are strong enough in our faith with the Lord.
@@unkown312 All truth belongs to God. If anyone says something that is true, it is because people can have knowledge and know things, but if that person doesn't acknowledge God as the truth giver, then he/she can't justify why something is true. My point is that we have God and His Word as the only standard for truth, we don't need any secularist to try and give us something new and profound.
Someone who owns nothing and is nothing in a free society will vote to give it all away.
Very informative show, men. Most substantial Christian show on the internet. God bless you men!
@@joeyrose1245 Really appreciate this.
I have three faves, in no particular order. This one, Reformation Red Pill Podcast, and Shepherd's Church (CREC). All postmills with substantial content, either theological, or cultural/political. Pastor Kendal Lankford just started a series on why voting for democrats is a SIN. It's gonna be good! Go give those brothers some love!
Agreed.
@@SolidRock92 nice!!
I completely agree with you and have thought this way since God saved me. It's like no brainers 🧠
Ready for April 2025👊💪
@@JYReformer Let’s Go!!!
Are we going to ever see more open engagement and dialogue with the growing Monarchist wing of the movement? Some of us don’t believe getting back to a Republic is possible or desirable.
I heard Georgetown is getting a CREC church soon. Garret Crew is great
You know who has wisdom??? The eastern Orthodox. My brother is one and he has been preaching this episode for decades!
My brother has always encouraged me to read the classics and says reformed people lack humility
How humble of him
Hello from the Philippines
I'm not skeptical these were highly intelligent and wise men and ahead of their time but lack the holy Spirit as you said.
Gonback to the Mayflowers compact. We are memorizing this thus year at home
England has fallen, looks like we’re next!
We have already fell.
Perhaps a general equity theonomist and postmillenialist can adopt "wisdom" to manage things not explicitly taught in scripture like immigration.
Solomon offered to chop an infant in two to identify the rightful mother. Not sure that would be expressed as a "general equity" principle for us to use apart from wisdom.
You can't give your neighbor your cloak if you don't have one.
Can someone please help me with this, my brother claims that Costi Hinn is “reformed”,.. is this True?
@@joshuamichael2463 he’s a Calvinist, but not reformed.
Costi Hinn is in the MacArthur, Abner Chou Masters Seminary group.
Will illegal immigrants be required to register for the selective service and be drafted?
Of course not. They will be comfortably situated in a sanctuary state, all while clothed, fed and housed on the tax payers dime.
I wonder how Stephen Wolfe's infamous tweet would have been taken if he had started it with the word "statistically." :)
So in regards to the doctrine of God you lean Thomistic but in terms of preferred apologetic method would you lean more toward pressup?
I think the full context of Gabe's comment on tax credits is he sees them as a cheap substitute for not actually lowering the tax burden, so it's a vote-getting pandering to a specific group instead of being equal across citizens, as taxes should be. That's where the socialism comes in. But in your defense, he phrased that poorly on X.
He meant that God is a ruler, and heaven is full of people from all nations and ethnicities, as God, the ruler of rulers, has willed it to be that way. God did not create many different peoples for the sake of chaos. Of course, Aristotle was talking about earthly rulers, not the Heavenly Father. Even though the Kingdom of God is a multi-ethnic "state," Aristotle is probably right.
And what if you don't have men that love you?? Then women don't have any voice, right?
For the algorithm 😉
Joel, respond please to my criticizms of your civil war views under that video. This is important. You need some loving push back here. .....because you and Jon Harris made some huge errors in thinking.
Personally I'm a pan-millennialist...it'll all pan out in the end.
Can we please just be more honest that we would like less diversity, even if everyone were Christians?
No…..that is just blatantly racist… Diversity is welcome if everyone is Christian. There is neither Jew nor Gentile….
Then you need to get ahold of James White & explain this to him.
Question that was posed to Joel: Do you understand that even Wolfe has stated his natural law position is incompatible with Theonomy? Why specifically do you think you can ride the fence between the two?
Your mischaracterization of Theonomy was something to behold. "Libertarian-Boomerism?" You have no clue what you are talking about, but when all else fails, labeling and name-calling is the default position. But more importantly, you never answered the question posed to you. You simply blew it off by saying, "I don't think it (i.e. answering the question) is the greatest need of the cultural, political, and even theological moment." How is whether God's law or man's law is to be the foundation for cultural and political reformation not "of the moment" when it is essential to how they are to be reconstructed or reformed? God's law is antithetical to any form of natural law theory, which is both arbitrary and subjective. But I have little doubt that so-called "general equity theonomists" like you and Wilson and the entire "Moscow Crowd" will continue to refuse to answer this question. And the reason for not doing so is evident. You can't because unlike Wolfe on this point, you won't go on record stating that natural law and Theonomy are incompatible, because they are.
I just popped a Tylenol...
Furthermore, your characterization of theonomic immigration policy as being "naive" is amazing. Besides your hypothetical being really naive, let's say that what you portrayed as being theonomic immigration policy is accurate? Do you rally have the audacity to call God's standard "naive" and Wolfe's natural law theory being the "Christian way" to go? I don't really think you have a grasp of what Theonomy actually teaches.
I thought the same thing. Dr. Bahnsen would be ripping his hair out listening to this episode. It was unfortunate to hear for sure and it made me doubt whether Joel, our brother, understands presuppositionalism or theonomy at all. Thomism is antithetical to Calvinism, especially presupp and theonomic ideas, and they cannot be reconciled. This is why Dr. Van Til singled out Aquinas over and over again for destruction, because Aquinas’ ideas are diametrically opposed to his own.