Let's Talk Natlan - Predictions for the Land of War (Genshin Theory and Speculation)
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- With the main Archon Quests of Fontaine at an end, we finally have received new information on the next stop of our journey. In this video, I talk about Natlan, the Nation of Pyro and War, what we know about it, and my own early speculations.
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Chapters
0:00 - Let's Talk Natlan
0:46 - Nation of Dragons
2:51 - The Pyro Archon
5:18 - Fatui Harbingers
7:50 - Other Thoughts
11:16 - Ending Notes
Sources and Further Reading
Natlan - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Augustus Lovelace - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Mare Jivari - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Tenoch - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Talking Stick - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Finale - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
The Seven - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Murata - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Venti - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Vennessa - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Xbalanque - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Eleven Fatui Harbingers - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Capitano - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Tartaglia - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Wanderer - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Varka - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Arlecchino - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Skirk - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Columbina - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Celestia - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Yae Miko - genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Thank you so much for watching! 
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Imagine first time seeing Capitano for the first time in Natlan sitting on a stacked up pile of dead dragons and casually greets you. "Hello There"
The "hello there" better be on the same tone as Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan when he said "hello there" that one time
@@Gwen1661hopefully Capitano got some sass in him since he already got rizz
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 Tsaritsa : Capitano, go rizz up the traveler so that he can join our side.
Capitano : Yes Ma'am.
I was imagining his introduction cutscene would be similar to the Beidou and Kazuha reinforcements scene or the scene in Diluc's story quest where he beats up the hilichurls, so it's like we're in a big battle and Capitano suddenly rushes in absolutely destroying everyone
No. Capitano will say
"Welcome to Sparta DAMNIT"
Imagine Mare Jivari is a huge place with no teleport waypoint and only a statue of seven at the center of it just for revealing the area on the map
Ain't no way
Can wait to have to do commissions there
👏👏😂@@ItsDatGuy969
Here’s a big mystery:
- Natlan has a bunch of wars
- Foreigners can come and go without incident
There’s a story quest that has someone mentioning they’re going to stay in Natlan indefinitely. What form do these wars take? It ain’t open warfare. If an outsider has a kid within Natlan, would (only) that child be bound to whatever these never-leave rules are?
maybe less of a modern war and more akin to a bar fight or country wide competition for squat-rights that while it is undergoing no one participating can leave? cuz i doubt any rules are going to keep Cap & Bina from leaving once they get the gnosis. also the cat don quijano (i think thats his name) said he came to fontaine with some destitute humans from natlan so maybe people can leave but they cant if they "own" land there?
Maybe the people of Natlan is having some kind of cold war against each other
@@matheusbianquincera3104 this is from a 4.2 Fontaine world quest? Were the people just foreigners that couldn’t afford to travel out? Definitively native Natlan people that said “f~ck it”? Or we don’t know their origin either way?
@@darylewalker6862 yes and good questions, the cat's name is a reference to dom quixote the spanish book and he just implies they came out of natlan before parting ways, so its a guess but a educated one i think that they are from natlan since we dont see them.
@@matheusbianquincera3104wasn't there a line that had drawn parallelism over how inazuma is a closed nation because the archon had forbidden entry and exit while natlan is a nation where the people chose to not leave their land? around the time of inazuma release
I think Natlan we'll finally see someone become an Archon, as until now it's been left vague how exactly the succession process occurs, and after seeing Visions being given that would be the next logical step.
imagine fatui member try to become archon
@@ryan-tabari dont think,they have got 1 single goal
@@ryan-tabar The Fatui already have an archon, another one would just create conflict within the group.
Perhaps the archon is either dead or dying, and needs to find a worthy successor to pass the torch to.
@@GhostlyGhost333unlikely..A resurrection is most likely.
My idea for Natlan is a tournament act. Something the tribes do regularly to decide who becomes the pyro archon. That's why Capitano decided to participate since it would be the simplest way to get the gnosis. We either fight him at the finals for the title, or after he won the tournament. Which would mean we tecnically fight the "pyro archon" and the harbinger at the same time.
I do like Tournament Arcs. 😁
It also fits his righteous personality since he's not committing any crimes by obtaining the gnosis that way.
Capitano with the power of the Pyro Gnosis sounds insane
My idea of natlan is a gooning arc. Where everyone just goons and we go down a story regarding the previous pyro archon and how they died gooning 500 years ago
I also had a similar thought! 😃
Some madlad theorized that bennett is in possession of the pyro gnosis and no one knows about it including him.
Also it would be cool if the traveller gets a hold of the pyro gnosis and insists that they will hand it over to the tzaritsa themself, leaving a nice cliffhanger before shneznaiya(??)
Adding that this theory already existed WAY BEFORE 4.2 archon quest !
@@DinurAsI hope, there’s a ton of mystery in his backstory
yeah just no💀
btw, this was theorised bcs skirk mentions how holding the gnosis in possession can cause misfortune.
God I'm so excited for natlan, we know no characters from there, so I wonder what the land itself would look like, and why people from outside seem to get in and out, but not people who live there
Im curious if the Murata is more similar to Athena or Ares in terms of war. Athena was the more “nobler” parts of war like strategy, leadership and protecting people while Ares was the more violent parts of war
considering syncretism is a big thing to religion in latin america maybe murata is a mix of both, a "noble savage" style of war
idk if it's just me but I want her to be a peace-loving god that would go batshit crazy when her peace gets threatened
There's nothing noble in wars anyways so if she was like athena, maybe she'd be manipulative or psypathic instead of a hothead
I don't think they will go too greek or Roman for her. I think they will stick to meso America and Africa.
I want a Huitzilopochtli style waifu
I think it's clear that there will be a Celestial nail in mare jivari
Imagine the Captain, dragging the Pyro archon's defeated body, as we enter Natlan.
Then say "oh, hi Traveler !"
I can imagine Honkai Impact players would go crazy over that notion
I belive "The Children of Murata" have some sort of curse, If the Children go way frem Natlan the memories of Murata will be forgotten (still in their mind but forgotten) Murata and Natlan will be about war so info will be fought of course plus the "Children" may have knowlage about her so if they go outside of Natlan this infos will be "protected"
And Bennett (his unluckiness) is indeed the prime example of this given how similar he is with the character in th teaser trailer of Natlan.
My Neuvillette is ready for any pyro enemies we may encounter there.
The pyro archon is a time lord that regenerates…. Nice!
I can't tell you how many times I had to rerecord lines because I accidentally said regenerate instead of reincarnate
About the Pyro Dragon. I'm curious if we could end up fighting them as our first ever direct fight with a Sovereign. I'm personally betting they could either be Quetzalcoatl or Mokele-Mbembe, but regardless it would be fitting for Natlan to have a fight against such an opponent. Maybe the Sovereign could even be a partial antagonist in the story as a way of flipping the script on Neuvillette being a hero in the end?
That would be so cool but I wonder what plot armor they’d have to do with the traveler to make them be able to beat it haha. We only fought like a cell or something in Apep and Neuvillette carried us with the whale😂
allying with the STRONGEST human to ever exist and a rogue celestia angel may be enough, but that is if they even allow the traveler to play third wheel to them in such battle considering we have yet to win against any god alone lol
167 consecutive losses with nahida & all of sumeru help vs scara, all of inazuma to a achieve a drawn with ei, playing moral support for ei to defeat shogun, shenhe and all liyue to deal with osial wife... man we sure were bluffing hard when furina challenged us for a duel in the harbor.
We have fought every elemental dragon besides Neuvillette.. What could possibly be so different this time except more fire being involved.
@@matheusbianquincera3104 At this point I would be surprised if the pyro dragon isn't the one allied with humanity and the archon against Celestia this time.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks we didn’t fight an electro one?
10:26 I kinda agree with this. It's either Xbalanque is already dead and they have the gnosis within their tomb OR Xbalanque agreed to be "sealed" together with the Gnosis and the only one who can unseal it is the Pyro archon (though this is where the forgotten memory comes in, it could be that the previous archon/reincarnation chose not to "remember" the way to unseal it so the Archon power of Pyro can never be stolen/taken away)
Also, what if Natlan had a bit of a twist (land wise). there's one huge area with blizzards/snow kind of like how out of place Dragonspine is inbetween the 'springy" Mondstadt and autmuny Liyue. Imagine in the middle of the country's blistering heat/lava, there's a chunk that's all white,snow and lost to time (this could even be the resting place of Xbalanque for example, which would justify why it's hard to access) oh and this is where the hotspring waters could be coming from and could have some kind of healing effect.
Im very excited for Natlan. It definitely caught my attention when i saw the Travail trailer for the first time because of the word "resurrection" being in the title. Who or what will be resurrected? The Archon, the Pyro Sovereign, the Third Descender or perhaps someone else? There are so many big things that could happen there and what happens will probably determine whether we will then travel to Snezhnaya on friendly or hostile intentions.
Ah I didn't consider that the "resurrection" could also be applied to the third descender! I also agree that that's the reason why the Tsaritsa is collecting the Gnoses.
@@kirkginoabolafia3650 Yeah my first ally choices when going to war against Celestia would certainly be other descenders or the Sovereigns.
I saw a video on what the narrative/archon might be based on the gemstones used as ascension material and how specific Visions are granted.
The idea of receiving a pyro vision is like this; a parental figure passes the torch to the next in line.
Based on that info, the current pyro archon may die, and is looking for a replacement. Passing down his or her knowledge down to the most worthy.
P.S. the video is from ABD Illustrates, if you were curious.
Natlan has been my favorite nation to go ever since travail trailer, the longer the game went less and less information we had of it and that made me so freaking curious and hyped for what the nation could bring, i cant wait to see what it will happen and ill be seeing all your vids until the inevitable launch of the version arrived, your videos are just the best!
Let's not forget about Natlan Chapter being called "Incandescent Ode of Resurrection"
I hope we get more playable character skin diversity in Natlan
expect Twitter screaming again to the game for that "diversity"
Not gonna happen...
lol, lmao even.
but more seriously expect sumeru 2.0 with maybe 5 instead of 3 dark-skinned characters at best, we are getting spanish conquistadors and most of the african tribes may actually be portugal-Brazil bandeirantes references (iansan was syncretised with saint barbara in Brazil by the black community during their adoption of catholicism) and that means that 1- that anything darker than candace is not happening and 2- half of them will more likely be white skinned since brazil has a 45% mixed, 7% black and 40% white population. 3- Brazil also has the biggest german, italian and japanese populations outside their respective mother countries so tribes referencing that are also a possibility.
@@matheusbianquincera3104
It's going to be a disaster...
@@anneoneal3865 but a entertaining one.
Im dying to know more about Columbina, she’s so cool
imagine being able to ride dragons in natlan thatd so cool
I think the other harbinger in Natlan will be Sandrone. Since in WNL, Arlecchino and Tartaglia appear together, Dottore appears alone but he's talking about Scaramouche. Following that logic, Capitano will be paired with Sandrone in Natlan, Pulcinella with Pantalone in Snezhnaya, and Pierro and Columbina will probably be relevant in a post-Snezhnaya quest, like Khaenri'ah or Celestia
my favourite theory about natlan is that its people can't leave because if they do, they're cursed with bad luck. that theory aligns with the speculation that bennett is from natlan and that's why his ''bad luck'' is a literal curse
if speculations that Natlan is based off on the Aztec empire are correct, then i suspect that the reason we haven't seen people from Natlan is that there is currently an ongoing civil war.
The thing about the Aztec empire is that when their ruler dies/steps down, a relative is chosen to become the next ruler, and the relatives who weren't chosen can challenge the chosen one for the right to rule. And this usually escalates into a rebellion or a civil war.
Now, my WORKING THEORY is that the Pyro archon has either died or has stepped down from her position, and the people are fighting over who would receive the Pyro Gnosis and become the next archon.
This i suspect, ties in with the description of the Agnidus Agate Gemstone:
"A pilgrimage for a wish; a battle to earn a name,
Burnt to cinders for a dream,
If the intention yet remains, achieved ▉▉'s truth he has."
The first line probably pertains to the people of Natlan returning to their homeland to join the fight to receive the gnosis and earn the Pyro archon title - the reason why we haven't seen any people from Natlan, and also the reason why Capitano is there - to join the fight and get the gnosis (why do shady stuff when he can get it legally).
The second line probably pertains to the ones who got defeated,
and i still can't make sense of the third line, hopefully we find out when Natlan gets released.
TLDR; Natlan is a mess, people fighting for the gnosis, Capitano joins in and now we have to fight him to get the gnosis
Bro, your ideas gave me an excited chill in my body good work
So I have thoughts.
The pyro archon may be dead or missing. Seeing as the people of Natlan aren’t exactly the type to talk things out, chaos ensues, as the fight tooth and nail to figure who did what with the archon.
Capitano is brought in as a way to end the fighting. Not to necessarily help Natlan, but to make finding the Gnosis easier. They might not be all willing to talk if they’re all fighting each other.
We arrive, find Capitano, and seeing as we don’t have any luck ourselves, we decide to help the Captain. Find the Dragon Sovereign, find the Archon. Find the Archon, find the Gnosis. And the story evolves from there. I could technically see a second harbinger being there. Capitano could act as the muscle/body guard while the other searches for the Gnosis. Not entirely sure, we’ll have to wait and see.
Slime theory suggests that once the flame and eagerness to fightis extinguished, it can emblaze again,also before being obliterated,it'll create a blast
It's probable "reincarnation" is happening because it certainly happened to nuevillette he was born into a human form some time after existing as the hydro sovereign in dragon form. Theres also theories about teyvats samsara ages: deshret being reborn as alhaitham, nabu malakata being reborn as nilou. However that seems to be a one reincarnation per samsara cycle thing if it is happening.
The pyro archon may well be more phoenix like, where when one dies another is born from the ashes. Whether they'll have the same form or memories is up for debate.
The archon quest for a region generally has 2 main parts. One happening from X.0 -> x.2 and another starting in x.5->x.7
We could find the pyro archon perishes in the events of the 5.0->5.2 and then we have to find out about the reincarnation of them for the 5.5 series. I think the gnosis WONT be easily taken by the fatui at all, they'll probably spend the entirety of the 5.X series trying to obtain it, then I think the cryo archon after obtaining all of them will be sending the traveller an invite to come to scheznaya to take part in whatever ceremony she wants to do. Or maybe she's just kidnap us.
Holy shit! You need more subs! Your voice is amazing as well!
Off topic but ur voice is so nice and comforting 😧its like a warm hug idk hot to explain😭😭😭💖
Natlan is the most hush hush nation we have on the game. I can’t wait for it! And I can’t wait for your mini series leading up to the release of the nation as you did with Fontaine! I loved this videos a lot!
I’m looking forward to any of the weekly bosses and would be willing to do any! As for the theme songs, Farabi Hasan has several fam made themes that o can see would fit the fights very well!
Since I would love the idea of battling Columbina in a biblically accurate Seraph form, I’d love for her battle theme to be similar to that of Mother Miranda from Resident Evil Village. They both have Seraph themes with their six wings integrated into their designs! And I believe a choir would suit an Angel like boss very well! I can’t wait!
Edit: I also really want to know what Columbina’s relationship is to Arlecchino has they are often depicted as lovers in the Comedia dell’Arte.
Natlan is going to be fire. . .
With the new story developments in Honkai Impact 3rd, I started to speculate that the current Pyro Archon could be actually be an exp of Fu Hua and not Himeko. She is literally the Phoenix and some of her forms have white hair. But if I’m wrong, at least maybe she’ll be the Pyro Dragon Sovereign or something.
OR, HERE ME OUT, OR
A combination of both
I just love how you used zhongli as an icon, like it's suit him
Great video! You've got a great exposition voice. Subbed. A few thoughts of my own that add to your ideas:
-First, I agree there will be more than one harbinger in Natlan that we meet, but for another reason. Out of all 12 of the fatui (I'm including Pierro), we have only met FIVE, despite having completed 5/7 of the nations of Teyvat. I think it'd be illogical and rushed to meet all of the others in Sneznaya.
-Second, considering the theme of Natlan being about war, life and death, and reincarnation, I think it's very obvious that the "secret she shares with the traveler" alluded to in the Trevail trailer could be about how, or WHO, she conducts this reincarnation as, and solving those answers will be the goal of both the traveler and the Fatui.
-Third, I'd recommend you check out Xbalanque a few of the names alluded to in the Talking Stick lore, as they reference a variety of historical and mythological figures across Africa and Latin America, including Kenyans and the Mayans. For instance, Xbalanque and his twin brother Hunahpu are the "mayan hero twins", who are these badass, cunning, god-slaying brothers who are masters of disguise and deceit.
Thanks for reading my yap-fest there I just love genshin lore lmao
Oh, also I REALLY want to meet Varka in Natlan. I know it's implied they went their separate ways, but it's interesting how much Mondstadt and Natlan lore is seemingly connected, despite their distance (Venti's story quest, Venessa founding the knights of Favonius, and now Varka/Mika having met Capitano, who's heading to Natlan).
I imagine Natlan's war is a civil war like each tribe has its own 'archon' and the winner would eventually become Natlan's archon (from the trailer dain said something like the victor will shine while the others burn to ashes or something) maybe kinda like game of thrones.
you dont know how HYPED i am for capitano.
Damn recommended to me super quickly
Nice video!
Capitano, the strongest individual in Teyat
So, Bennett was born in Natlan but was brought to Mondstadt.
It hasn't been confirmed that he's from Natlan, but I do want to talk about that!
Concerning the pyro archon, it would quite unique if a fatui harbinger took the place of Archon like capitano.
Playable Pyro Archon being Capitano, now that's something.
Pyro archon already been spoiled by dainself as a female
After Fontaine, I think we should give male leaders of nations a little break
@chawzza9766 nah we need more
@@chawzza9766 We have 2 male archons + 1 male dragon and 3 female archons. We know the Cryo Archon is a female so if hoyoverse wants to go equal with gender, it would make sense to have at least one Pyro archon/ male dragon sovereign.
I hope in Natlan, we can have finally a mount update like you can ride dragons or something, that can really be helpful in the overworld exploration
I screamed When i saw Capitano
Maybe the title of pyro archon is passed down to those who beat the previous pyro archon, but I doubt that given that only allogenes with a pyro vision are supposedly the only ones who can become pyro archon.
we better see tenochtitlan like city
I don’t know why, but a lot of people keep saying that the Pyro icon will be reincarnated completely neglecting the title of Natan, that being of resurrection. What did it make more sense if the Pyro Archon may have been a disciple of the original and what I mean by that is how Dane says war is woven in the womb perhaps the pyro archon is the actual child of the og possibly by creation from herself or natural birth and that she looks similar to the original because she’s their child but will die in that are conquest, but become resurrected at first I thought about her dying and the Pyro sovereign getting his authority back but folcalors had to Accumulate enough energy just so she can destroy the divine throne of the hydra archon so I don’t think that’s the case
Hope that Pyro Dragon is a luchador Quetzalcoatl.
2:04 I was thinking that the dragons will probably be like humanoid npcs when we get to Natlan, like the melusines in Fontaine :p
Really interested on the "reincarnation" part of the vid. Maybe they'll do something similar to Star Rail's dragon race in the Xianzhou, like Dan Heng and Bailu, that when they die, they reincarnate back and have a new identity
good video!
I'm glad to see the reincarnation theory is becoming more common and popular with murata and the pyro archon. Felt weird being the only one to be saying it lol
in natlan we were told there will be dragons. In my last survey I told hoyo to give the people what they want
dragon waifus
Here's a crack theory but I'd speculate that there'd be a cutscene where the Pyro Archon got resurrected from a Pillar with her 2 dragon familiars and/or 1 dragon sovereign and as she wakes up she strikes a Jojo pose before awakening the others while saying "awaken, my dragons!" and then they all wakes up while striking a pose in tandem with the [ゴゴゴゴ] effects
Is Capitano the Blood-soaked Berserker or the Blood-stained Knight?
The Blood-soaked Berserker is from Khaenri'ah.
Because the Berserker was fighting in Natlan 500 yrs ago killing humans, monsters, and dared to challenge the "gods" when he lost his sanity.
The end inevitably comes for all, even the seemingly invincible berserker. (But, it was never stated he actually died)
He met a "giant monster" who fought him for days, months, and years.
At the end of his journey. His face was unrecognizable, his iron mask was fused with his face.
But, in a fierce horrifying battle his iron mask was split into two.
(Just a guess he met a fellow Khaenri'ahn possibly Pierro who forcefully stopped Capitano's rage)
The Blood-stained Knight is from Mondstadt.
There is a big chance that he'll betray the Fatui.
The Blood-Stained Knight went into Khaenri'ah and pledged his loyalty with the Abyss to rid of injustice, monsters, and poverty.
He also wore an Iron Mask. A mask belonging to a knight of noble birth.
The Blood-stained Knight's righteousness resembles Capitano according to the Wanderer,
"Don't you think that possessing absolute righteousness is actually a latent danger?"
Bonus information:
Capitano's eyes are eerily dark blue. According to Mika he couldn't see his face just his eyes even with torches lit. *Points to Blood-soaked Berserker*
Varka seems to know Capitano. After waving at him, talking to him, and stopping a war between them. *Points to Blood-stained Knight*
Me: *Waiting for the Blood-soaked Berserker and the Blood-stained Knight to meet is taking ages*
fIrst comment and vieww, reaaal excited for natlan, i think the sovereign will play a big part
i cant wait for the story of Bennett
The story better gets dark n' gritty since the nation is in an on-going war...
Fontaine is a bright and beautiful place but quests had drug manufacturing, human trafficking, serial killers and mental illness. Something tells me Natlan is gonna get REAL dark. So excited
I’m excited for the resurrection of Signora😌😌😌😌
I like to think the reason we haven’t seen anyone from Natlan isn’t because they’ve been told they can’t, but because they physically cannot leave, not because of the Pyro Archon, but due the fear of the other gods. They may have become worried of what the previous Pyro Archons had done in the past and decided to trap those inside the nation. The current Pyro Archon, new or reincarnated, could be attempting to break this barrier. Since Genshin is trying to make every Archon different and we haven’t seen one too much change (and Ei was basically a dictator already) it would be fun to see this archon try to reform her nation and look for a better way. War and battle could be used only in serious situations with a “I win I take this, you win you take this” type of scenario as well in festivals similar to the Olympics. The reason why people that have gotten out of Natlan unharmed might be because they are a large nation with “safe zones” where people flock to, and why they always speak so terribly about it is because they were asked to that way the gods don’t learn about there attempts of getting out.
Of course this is all just me thinking (and not wanting another Inazuma story) and probably won’t happen, but it would be cool to see some change in an archon and the nation itself.
So who’s gonna get the 1000 yard stare treatment when Traveler arrives in Natlan? Lol
Hear me out. So we know that Capitano recently went to Natlan and he will play an important pert to the Natlan story quest. We also know that damselette also play some part there, and we know from childe and Wandere that she's strong. Why would the 2 strongest member of the fatui would go there and take part in the ring fight? I think because the winner prize would be the supreme gnosis of Pyro.
I really really wanna see Capitano, I love him. I‘m pretty much neutral about Columbina, I don’t really care about her, but it would bug me if she got the major harbinger role in Natlan as opposed to Capitano.
I think the Gnosis will be inside the big Volcano in Natlan, don't ask me why😂
From the few things I know is that:
Mondstat: Germany
Liyue: China
Inazuma: Japan
Sumeru: most of SE Asia, Africa
Fontaine: France
Natlan: Spain (I'm not sure if this has been confirmed)
Sneznya (I don't know how to spell it): Russia
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I'm pretty sure Fontaine was based off the French revolution. Hence Furina (focalors) being tried and given a death sentence.
Also the discontentment with lack of answers and the "uprising" of the people. (Neav, traveler, Navia, ETC)
And Inazuma (aka Japan) being shut off from the rest of the world (the storm cutting off Inazuma) and the Shogun. (Military ruler)
Natlan may be based off of the Spanish inquisition or some sort of war Spain has gone through looking at these two nations alone.
I'm not sure how Liyue, Mondatat, and Sumeru tie Into major war, Mythology or shutdown events for their history.
(1st part of Sumeru not included because it was based of a Samsara)
All I know personally is:
Natlan is the nation of Pyro, war, and rebirth (possibly).
(Major Signora Rebirth speculation by certain people due to reasons I cannot remember)
Natlan is the nation of Dragons (from the ending of Fontaine where we asked questions), apparently they live in harmony with the people(?) Also speculation for there to be a primordial Dragon.
There is speculation for MC helping a character become an archon or primordial dragon.
If I got anything wrong or you see something I can add, please share, I'm a big lore person and I love information.
Thanks for listening to me yap for 30 minutes :>
Also keep in mind I haven't watched the video yet, just typing a comment to keep note of stuff.
I think it may be about the resurrection of Signora, there isn’t much to support this, but the title is ‘Incandescent Ode of Resurrection’ and in the description of the Shivada Jade Gemstone, the Tsaritsa says
“Sorry…to also have you shoulder the grievances of the world.” (Link to Signora’s backstory?)
“Since you could endure my bitter cold, you must have the desire to burn?” (Referring to Signora’s cryo powers given by the Tsaritsa (technically, as cryo is her element, but it was Pierro who gave it to her) and her body which is liquid fire?)
“Then, burn away the old world for me.” (Possible link to the Tsaritsa’s final goal, also it is said by Pierro that Signora’s ‘final resting place will be the entirety of the “Old World”’.
Also Dainsleif says in the Teyvat Chapter Storyline Preview that the (in the Natlan section) ‘the rules of war are woven in the womb’(link to birth), ‘the victors shall burn bright, while the loser must turn to ash.’ Which possibly is a reference to the Duel Before the Throne in Tenshukaku. According to Dainsleif, the pyro archon ‘has her reasons' to 'share this secret with us'.
Other things to note, moths resemble rebirth, and the number 8 in the Bible has a strong connection with rebirth.
There are a ton more links, you can find them on reddit on r/Genshin_Lore probably.
I watched some theory vid awhile back that mentioned that Capitano’s power is just a hoax, and that he’s actually really weak, which is why he made peace with Varka. The theory was formed based on the original lore of the commedia dell’arte theater. And now every time I look at him I can’t help but think he’s a fraud in my head, even if he’s really not. I’m ruined until I can see his power in Natlan 😂
I am super exited for Natlan, I also heard some cool theory about Bennett being a bigger protagonist giving that he was found in Mare Jivari. After the Natlan archon quests are done in 2024-2025, I hope to see events in that land where characters from other nations join us there.
My crack idea is that may be new info from Skirk may actually lead us to work WITH the Fatui and give us idea why the hell Cryo Archon needs all the Gnoses. Also interesting idea would be Harbringers getting royally smacked by the Pyro archon, leaving us Vs the archon after which we end up with the gnosis and we would need to get it to Tsaritsa. (total crack ideas i know. But fun
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Now there’s an idea. If we, the Traveler, got the Gnosis before the Fatui did, then it could grant us an invitation to meet with the Tsaritsa. After all, whatever her plan is, she needs all the Gnoses. And she can’t exactly do it if she’s one short.
I wouldn’t be mad if Natlan’s archon quest is 4 hours long, and it is divided into a few more quests, There’s a lot of things to br explained
I can't remember where but I saw a theory that for natlan it may be us(traveler) to surrender the pyro gnosis to the fatui for us to get to snezhnaya, this would be a shocking twist if true
I’m probably gearing up to max out all my characters that I have in my party not to mention the bow characters are gonna be my mains because I’m going to hunt both Fatui and abyss order also going to encounter pyro enemies gotta have my primogems ready for shenhe and neuvillette rerun
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I think it would be pretty fitting for Mihoyo for us to meet the Pyro Archon as a Himeko Variant, who would be defeated and killed by Capitano. She would then be reincarnated and the archon quest would continue on from there
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Based on the new trailer im guessing there is a small population of people considering the trailer didnt feature any npc but only the dragons
I hope Capitano will be playable... I will skip all banners and save everything to c6 him
Same
I saw a theory saying that whoever leaves Natlan will be cursed with bad luck for eternity, hence, Bennet is actually from Natlan and that's why he's so unlucky. I like that theory because it explains why we haven't seen any characters/npcs originally from Natlan
Capitano playable please god
i really want tartaglia in the natlan archon quest but since he was taken back to snezhnaya for his "injuries", my guess is we won't see him until then.
it would be sick if signora resurrected as the new pyro archon
i feel like natlan would have the same vibe as the taishan mansion
My saving will probably go to a murata and columbina
I'm looking forward to Natlan but I'm really scared for snezhnaya
I can't wait to see the crossover with kratos being the God of war
Maybe the reason to why we haven't seen anyone from Natlan yet is because those who try to leave are considered deserters of war (only for those who originated from Natlan). There may be some sort of punishment for those who commited the crime.
Imagine in Natlan we're able to ride dragons and thats how we travel around...I know I know, I'm setting myself up for disappointment 😂
Here's my theory about murata
As we know visions element is rather closest to archons ideals i think the current pyro archon likes to Act Alone and is very passionate towards her goals/dreams that why current pyro visions holders are very passionate abd tends to be the odd one standing in the crowd and have a very set goal
ImoMurata might be a pheonix bird that is living in mare jawari and is one who protected bennett or most adventurers from the inhabitable environment but she also doesn't like to meet people as her powers might be too much for people to handle
My best guess is that she is trying to purify mare jawari with her divine flame as it sounds like a place where previous pyro archon may have perished because of all the hellish flames
Also the constant war might just be the interpretation of outsiders while the tribes might just be very competitive the story isn't always this way
In one piece it is always said different from others perspective while when you meet them they're very different same thing goes in Genshin story where most stories are said depends on people's perspective
As for fatui i think capitano might get acknowledged by murata and get the gnosis after her work is done
Roman Empire theme like?
Gladiators, Marathons etc.
i'm mad that we won't see Sandrone until the cryo nation.
what ppl see : New region
what I see : More benett lore B)
I think it would be cooler if there was just some tribes and we join one of them ( peace seekers one ) and end all of the wars by force ( real life wars)
If both Capitano and Columbina are in Natlan, that would be the (presumably) 1st Harbinger and 3rd Harbinger both in one nation. That genuinely terrifies me especially since even Tartaglia doesn’t want to fight Columbina.
natlan is gonna be darker
We did meet a Nathlan's npc. An old man during a fighting event, the one that told us that Nathlan has an unique fist fighting style....
He’s not from natlan, only visted therw
If Natlan is to the West of the desert, and it's (probably) as big of an area as all the others, wouldn't it not fit to the map border? The desert is already close enough to the west end of the map, so that wouldn't work for me(unless they extend the map, which seems like a very HYV thing to do. ah yes, "something doesn't fit? lets just add more things to make it fit")
So, since some people are considering that the Mare Jivari is near Mondstadt and is theorized to be in Natlan, I would like to think that Natlan is west to the desert in a way that this is a world map and it would come back to the other side of the map in a roundabout way. This would also make the proportions of the Mare Jivari make sense. However, the only time the Mare Jivari is mentioned is in Mondstadt... if it's from another country, why is it mentioned here? Would Fontainians just start talking about the domain in the Gavireh Lajavard/Realm of Farakhert just because Fontaine is right beside it? I don't think this would be true, as well as for the Mare Jivari being in Natlan. It's also described as "sea of ashes where the wind does not blow", this would point towards it being in Mondstadt to me, since it would just be a dumb thing to say if they said this for a domain that isn't in the nation of wind
Anyways that's my two cents, I think I'm confident in Natlan being West to the desert(in a world map sense) but also east to Mondstadt on the map
Hope we see Dottore in Natlan. ♡
Also, we met Dottore under nice circumstances. He's the first Harbinger who directly negotiated with an Archon for her Gnosis, and he allowed us to purify Irminsul, he could've fxcked Sumeru over with Eleazar for eternity by not allowing that to happen, especially considering he is stronger than Nahida and the Traveller. Hell, he could habe stopped the entire AQ at the doors of the Akzdemiya if he truly wished to, and basically gxnocided everyone in Sumeru City. Dottore's goodwill also gave us all the relevant info. we know about Descenders, etc. before Fontaine. People truly do not granthim sufficient credit.
On the other hand, Arlecchino didn't help Fontaine from the goodness of her heart and even Neuvillette is very aware of that. She is acting when she plays nice, and had the very relevant self-interest of NOT being dissolved into primordial seawater, since she is a (cursed) person from Fontaine. She had ulterior motives AND doesn't stand a chance against Neuvillette, so of course she had to play nice. Dottore, on the other hand, could easily overpower Nahida and any vision-wielder in Sumeru if he so wished. People forget just how powerful he is because he basically held back thr entire time, if he truly wished so, he could fxck us up and he remarked on this himself. I get people simp for characters like Collei, Scaramouche, Lyney, Lynette, and Freminet and thus love/hate anyone connected to them positively/negatively (though I'd argue Collei was positively affected by Dottore, without his intervention she'd be dead, whether she cares to credit him or not, and Zandik isn't the same as his manhua Segment, people also forget that -- they may share a title but they are different people, even in terms of intellectual acuity, let alone temperament.) As for Scaramouche, he blames everything and everyone who isn't him, and conveniently forgets Pierro was the person who ordered for Tatarasuna ro happen. Dottore even tried to prevent human casualties by having Scaramouche be the one to go in the furnace, but Niwa was stubborn and to spare him would compromise the whole mission. At least Dottore wasn't kxlling people for petty reasons like Scaramouche, nor has he ever.
In any case, the true measure of a person is how they act when they have all the power. We see this in Sumeru's own AQ, with Scaramouche immediately wanting to oppress everyone in Sumeru, who had fxckall to do with his backstory, simply because he thought he could. Similarly, he picks a fight with Buer that would kxll her if she lost for his own ego gratification. THAT is evil.
Dottore, on the other hand, does not once even try to snatch Nahida's Gnosis by force. Not even the electro gnosis. And he is not under any pressure to play nice, unlike Arlecchino, since he could easily overpower Nahida. He does consider the HP and their effects on Snezhnaya as well, so even his most selfish Segment is ultimately selfless and sacrifices himself for the sake of the Fatui's goals. That speaks to a nobler and higher character, IMO, and Dottore is one of the Harbingers we've met and parted with under the most amicable circumstances. I would even say the Sumeru AQ has been the least destructive one so far, since Mondstadt had a whole threat with Stormterror, Liyue got flooded by Childe/Osial, Inazuma had a catastrophic civil war (Scaramouche kxlled Teppei too), and Fontaine had a literal flood. Sumeru had the Withering/Eleazar flaring up but these things have been happening ever since Deshret, so that is not Dottore's fault, and he helped stop it by bringing the electro Gnosis to Sumeru and allowing Nahida the opportunity to seize it. We do also know Dottore isn't at peace with himself, likely due to everything he's had to do for the Fatui and his time dealing with Eleazar. If he were evil he would have no such conundrum -- hell, Scaramouche is more deserving of the title of evil considering he just blames other people and doesn't take responsibility for anything, and sleeps perfectly well despite all the people he's hurt or tried to hurt.
But anyway, we could see Dottore in Natlan, hopefully. Maybe he will even drop as playable then since Capitano definitely won't, considering his design lol. I am praying.
I wonder if the Pyro archon will be a Hybrid between dragon and human lol
10:10 when we find out that bennet had the gnosis this whole time and thats why hes so OP. ill be there