Exactly I've been asking myself this! How did this happen again?! Lucy killing innocent babies. As a retired registered nurse from the NHS I cannot get my head around this. As a nurse you are in a great position of trust and you do not betray that trust. My condolences to the parents of those innocent little babies. Xx
With Lucy Letby and Beverly Allit it does make me wonder if there have been other cases where it's either not been noticed or swept under the rug, Lucy almost got away with it.
I think the same, and I also think that there will be other baby's that were murdered by Lucy just as with Dr Harold Shipman they think his number of murdered victims was at very least 400+ so next time a doctor or a nurse says ...trust me I'm a nurse or trust me I'm a doctor 😳 alarm bells will be ringing in my head
Almost surely. There are so many millions of helathcare workers in the west , those other places cant even be measured really. The odds against any evil payhcopaths being in a field for so ling where its so eailsy hiddne... those caught may be a small minority
@@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq totally agree, there will more than likely quite a few that have got clean off Scott free and gone totally un-noticed for the most intelligent knows that hiding in plain sight is the best cover they can have as long as they don't think they are to clever and put themselves at the centre of attention at the forefront shouting I'm here I'm here, then many will slip the net faded in the background the quiet ones the silent types that never say boo to a goose, yes it's almost certain to have happened before and more than once and in different jobs in the medical field just look how long Harold Shipman got away with it, he was only caught really through greed, trust me I'm a doctor trust me I'm a nurse, trust me I'm a policeman and so on and so on ...and we do trust these kinds of people because we never think there could be anything wrong with someone in a job that society's trust, but the trust levels are now declining fast I feel, but if we can't trust people in those jobs who can we trust, it's a case of we have to go on putting our trust into these people ( with a little caution) let's not forget there are only a few rotten apples on a good apple tree ✝️🛐❤️🫂🤝🫂
I worked with someone like this. Compulsive liar. She has nearly qualified as a nurse now and i am sick and tired of telling her superiors that she is very dangerous . Until she actually kills someone, i suppose they cant do anything. I did try though, and i will keep warning staff who find themselves working with her. I will more than likely be reported for harrassment 🙄
Defo look into investigations!!! Quite a few years before Lucy Letby was found guilty, people working in the hospital with her did become suspicious of her. In 2017 an investigation was launched and then a few days ago she was found guilty.
My sister is a liar and schemer and has the right to take children from those not deemed fit to be parents.....but she's worse!! I've tried to report her....she also looks into everyone's medical notes!! But it's me that's called the liar....My Abusive mother backs her up and vice versa!! ....so I just have nothing to do with them!!!
That Would be a scary situation to be in for sure! I’ve been in the hospital over the years & some of those nurses act like they are runnin the whole Show! Hopefully they are not killers but after hearing all This it kinda makes you wonder !!
Right now the Pope is in Quebec and admit that some of his Priests did bad things, nothing about the Catholic Church that moved Priest, no charges, and won't RECIND THE DOCTORINE OF DISCOVERY. WE NATIVES ARE RESTLESS, and I'm Metis. 🇨🇦
Rose, there are many very sick people that work in many "help" industries. Too many sociopaths or psychopaths to count. The inability to feel emotion, to feel empathy for others, to care what others feel when they harm another human being. They can often MIMIC human emotion, and do it well, but not actually and truly being able to FEEL said emotions ... that is a dangerous person who, unfortunately, is beyond our help with the science we have today. I'm not sure they should ever be allowed back into society. The human mind can be a frightening and unknown place in many instances. I hope that science, one day, can "fix" or "cure" these types of people. Until that time, we have to protect the people from folks like this woman.
For reasons of economy they took away the position of Matron in hospitals, replaced them with managers who have little of no medical knowledge , just know how to save more money to cover their inflated salaries. Matrons were strict but mostly caring people to patients and staff, they would have recognised so many deaths around one person so much quicker. Now management by distance.
This is a very good comment. The matron knew each nurse at such a personal level that they could define their abilities and capabilities. If there was a red flag emerging, they could analyse it, yet protect, and direct the individual. It is such a loss that these role models were removed.
IMO Allitt should not have been put in a mental hospital. She showed no remorse for those babies so why should she be shown compassion? Should have let her rot in the jail cell!
One of my workmates when he was 3 was ill in Grantham hospital when Beverley Allitt was on the same ward. He still is shook up today at what could have been an untimely ending to his life, luckily fate spared him.
This is a heartbreaking story. Those poor parents. That she even dared do this with a perfectly healthy child just admitted as a precaution after her sibling died. How callous to keep targeting that family. The staff must feel awful for not realising sooner.
I know. My heart goes out to that poor doctor that Recommended they bring in the other baby. Of course he had no idea at the time what was goin on. Bless him.
When I was 7, I was tortured by female nurse. I was from a loving family, so I was so confused by the violence and hate directed at me. I'm 48 now, but I can still picture her. The next day, I was made to pose for some happy pictures, whilst my parents thanked the nurse for her kindness. Just thought I'd share this.
@@Cristobal_2012 She'll either be dead or an old biddy by now. I bet I wasn't the only one too. Hopefully , the Universe will weigh her up against better people. I hope so x
Some nurses are evil. One tried to force my Dad to sign a do not resuscitate order without letting him read it. Threw towels at him and shouted at him. Shockingly their colleagues often cover up mishaps to protect each other. She was giving my Dad a different patient’s meds and tried to inject him with insulin. My Dad didn’t ever want to go back to hospital after that even when gravely ill
Oh screw that doctor that said the police presence was obstructive - like, dr. Sir, your hospital is not running so great if 4 kids unexpectedly die?! Weirdo.
The staff around Allitt, some of whom appear in this video, were probably negligent at the time, I'd say. How did nobody notice this "staggering" phenomenon of children mysteriously dying, pretty much continuously, for so long? It really is appalling.
I see what you mean but hindsight and all that. If you expect good of people you can be blind to evil. Her colleagues probably feel guilty to this day but she was the one to blame, not them.
@@ab-hs3ouI know this is a late reply but it's an important one of the nurses who worked with Allit was my wife's godmother she committed suicide because she couldn't live with the thought she didn't spot it sooner. My family know most of the staff from that time and they're haunted you can see it in they're eyes. Anyone seeking to blame them should be ashamed of themselves with their assumptions
This sadly isn't an isolated case. We've had at least 2 here in the US. Recently in Cheshire, England a nurse named Lucy Letby had been charged w/ the murder of 8 babies and attempting to murder 2 more
I remember a case of a male nurse in Germany and a lesbian nurse in Canada. There is a book called doctors who kill that covers health care workers who kill.
Seriously, in those days, they could have hid some cameras around the place. That's nuts they had to wait for months while she harmed children to get enough evidence against her.
They didn’t want to know. Do you know how many cases there are like this? The victims counts are so high and usually they will have like 15 hospital jobs. People start noticing everyone dies only when so and so is working. Once it’s basically known they just let them move on to the next hospital. No one wants those lawsuits. It’s horrendous. Also never mind a psychotic nurse or dr trying to kill you your chances of straight up stupidity being what kills you in a hospital are very high! I’m pretty sure the third leading cause of death in hospital is human error. Yeah ! I may be off on on exactly how far up the list it is but yes human error. That’s why they have to write NO on the arm or let they aren’t operating on! Hahahaha as an extra precaution
Allitt should be in prison not a Mental Health hospital. I don't think it's right she gets a nice easy life in a Mental health hospital when those poor babies and other child victims are dead or still suffering from what she did!!
How dare that dr call the police a nuisance! I have no doubt they closed ranks and were awkward as possible. I will go further l would bet that Allitt could have been stopped quicker if they'd been helpful. I am glad the police stuck it out. And l hope that dr goes to hospital some time and receives the same general crappy treatment you generally get.
This is so heartbreaking & disturbing, Those parents that's so sad that four parents lost a child at the hands of Beverly Allitt, may she rot in prison!
@@phillipsmom6252 what did you do in the hospital? I find that hard to believe. I've worked in hospital nursing homes and yes crazy nurses this is murder. Way different
I dont go into hospital anymore because the last time i did this nurse came in and pulled up my pjs and said she was going to give me a injection to stop my blood from clotting but she wanted to push it into my belly. Now i wasn't undergoing any operation or having anything major done. I believe if i hadnt grabbed her wrist and stopped her she would have killed me. i also said no i didnt want it and she said why dont you push the needle in yourself and thats when i grabbed her wrist and she ran out of the room. If it had been a injection i needed why didnt the doctor say anything to me about refusing it then?
Lol that's standard for anyone in hospital. It's because you're sedentary in bed whilst in hospital. They give it to almost all adults and it is totally normal. She wasn't trying to kill you. 😂😂🤡🤡🤦
This is most stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in a long time! Clexanes are standard treatment for all patients admitted to hospital - this does not only include people undergoing surgery - it basically anyone! 😅😅😅
@@THEMADHATTRESS i wasnt sedentary in the bed i was still up and walking around so no i didn't need the injection and sure you hear all about nurses giving patients doses of medicine to kill them to ease their work load
How can a nurse hurt children when there supposed to be minding them not harming them it's awful, Rest in Eternal Peace the four Sweet little angel children who died at the hands of Beverly Allitt
I’m only watching this now because I heard about her so much the past few days because of them comparing her to lucy Letby , I wonder if both of them have the same problems 😊 Oh wow both cases are very similar but at least they done what they can to stop her
The presenter is acting all tough and rough. It's really strange for such a serious documentary. Rest in peace lovely babies. It makes me so angry that this creature isn't in a proper prison .
The scary thing is; we are surrounded by serial killers all the time. It could be your next door neighbour, the local post worker, a teacher, a doctor, a care home assistant etc. It could be ANYONE and they often get away with it for years before being found out. Most never get caught. Terrifying 😮
I did not working with children as a nurse. I was somehow timid and scared to do all the mean stuff to them we nurses have to do. I passed my clinicals with flying colors but i told my instructor honestly. It wasnt a dislike of children at all as i has 4 of my own. I was just scatterbrained and timid and nervous.
I already heard about Beverly Allitt case but this documentary really done great work I am horrified by what is she done to that little children poisoning them with insulin I can't imagine how that poor baby's feeling it is agony to have so much insulin in organism it is terefaing especially because baby's are so small that they can't say everything I am so sorry about 4 baby's who are die and I hope that they rest in peace 🕊️👼❤️ thanks to God 🙏 that other children survive my heart ❤️ gose to the parents and family's who lost their little angels 😇❤️ I am really mad 😡 because this psycho monster who is coold bloody murderer now is in hospital where she have everything what she needs and live free ❗ I mean what ❓ she deserves to be in prison forever ❗ this is not justice for what she done because she is selfish manipulative and calculated monster who just sicking atancion ❗ she manipulate even the court pretending that she is insane and have a mental health issues believe me that she is not mentally ill I know what I am talking about it is easy est in situations like this that person desided to harm herself to avoid everything for what she is responsible what Munchausen by proxy ❓❗ because she harm herself she must have diagnoses that is the way how psychiatry works what is terrible in this case especially for parents I really don't have a word for this I am sorry for my bad english because it is not my first language so I hope that you will understand me because I am from Croatia
In my country, MBP is the one "mental illness" you can have & still go to a normal prison, though where I live the mental ward is said to be WORSE than jail..
It's a pity there were shabby errors in the presentation. The narrator refers to Allitt's 'hypochondria' (extreme anxiety about having a disease or developing one). Allitt was not a hypochondriac, she was diagnosed with Munchausen syndrome by proxy, which is entirely different. She also refers to 'psychotic' behaviour in a way that suggests it's just being used as a synonym for 'mad'. The narrator also says 'grievious' more than once. There's no such word: it's 'grievous'.
She had/has Munchausen's syndrome (faking illness in yourself) and Munchausen syndrome by proxy (faking or inducing real illness in those in your charge).Hypochondria does not involve any faking. It's a highly distressing anxiety disorder, in which people truly believe their lives could be at risk of disease or death, despite the absence of evidence of a serious disease or the risk of developing one (my mother suffers from it, and, as a psychotherapist, I treat people with it). Anxiety and fear are alien to Allitt, who, despite her monstrous crimes, slept perfectly well throughout this horror story (and presumably still does), indifferent as she is to the victims of her terrible crimes. @@jenny2tone242
Nobody can run away from the Universal Laws of Karma , just as nobody can run away from Ageing , Sickness & Death! Deepest condolences to the Families & Friends of the Departed Innocent Toddlers ... May their Innocent Souls be Blessed to a Better World & Realm ...
Sorry but if karma is universal, then it implies the babies must have done something to deserve this (which is obviously not correct)..? Or what am I missing
I wonder, even today, if there might be a way to give a psych assessment to potential nursing staff. I know it's not going to catch all incidences of mental health, but, it may help somewhat.
Not sure if psych assessments but in Spain if the NHS has a van an y for a doctor or a nurse position the applicants have to go through a very difficult exam, almost university level exam, to proof all their knowledge. It takes a person to study for months to the go to take that exam. Only the best get to filled the position. Hence the calibre of medical staff in that country. I was surprised when I moved to the uk that you can apply to any NHS job like any other job in the private sector.
Police officers have to undergo a very detailed physiological assessment to make sure they have the mental competence and empathy to police others with compassion. We should employ such an approach to every type of position that gives power to one over others.
No one did a blood sugar when these babies collapsed??A basic instant test that would show what the problem was! And weeks to get a blood test back showing high insulin levels? Disgusting.
Its not more difficult to work out why women kill. It's all the same stuff, abuse, narcissism, anger etc. The guy at the beginning who says there was never an incident of nurses killing children is doing a disservice because there are many instances of female serial killers in history, and no doubt societies ignorance about lady killers has allowed many to get away by never being identified and caught.
@@luckystone2293 Many go under the radar and statistics don't tell the full story , and also the environment i.e society plays a big part, and society is changing in many ways.
@@mhtbfecsq1 If they are going under the radar and not being caught, how on earth do you know for certain they exist? You don't know, pure speculation on your part. We can only go on those who have been caught and in that, women serial killers are nowhere near as many as male serial killers. Fact.
@@luckystone2293 Your statement doesn't disapprove anything. There are other female serial killers who were also caretakers for both newborns and seniors. They lived in the functional but deeply flawed society so it went unnoticed for these cases until the body count was becoming a concern. This shows that women can kill, just like men, since you know, they are all humans.
This broad got no justice for her crimes she will most likely be killed if she ever GETS OUT! I for one thinks she should be in hard core prison and take what ever her mate's give her.
Per Wikipedia: "On October 3 2023, it was reported that Allitt was appearing before a mental health tribunal to be assessed for a potential transfer to a mainstream prison. If the transfer takes place, Allitt will be eligible for parole after six months."
What makes you think today’s any different to what it was in 90’s? NHS is currently in so much need for nurses that will basically hire anyone! No matter how competent one is!
Just weird that she's not locked in at a prison ! My thoughts and empathy goes to these parents. This is not justice for the children she did killed, harmed and these who survived an attempted murder. And not justice for the parents!
A murderer is a murder . A multiple murderer stays a multiple murderer . Yes we can search why they kill but their place is in jail for a long time . 30 years aren’t so long for an individual who can return to freedom . She was 26 . At 56 years old , She can kill again . She doesn’t need motive , she just need the desire .☹️
My carers twins were in hospital at the time allitt was working on that ward luckily they stayed with There twins and didn’t leave them alone at all. Both left unharmed thankfully
My daughter had a tumor ALWAYS either I or her papa. SHE WAS NEVER LEFT ALONE FOR WEEKS. BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE INSANE COMPLETELY BOGOS. TO LEAVE ANY CHILD WITH ANYONE. BUT FAMILY. PERIOD we as parents, of course, get very tired, sleepy. The feelings are immense, but we are not the ones who are suffering. It’s the child. This is a personal thought never in my life no matter how many times or how long has she ever been left alone for any reason. Am I the ONLY ONE WHO DOES THIS????
I am speaking of YEARS IN ALL KINDS OF MEDICAL FACILITIES FOR TUMORS. I NEVER LEFT HER NOT BECAUSE IM A SPECIAL PARENT. BUT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I DID AND WILL DO
Please remember the most tomb, important rules in life first rule never trust anyone with anything that you love second rule never ever forget the first
Some people have to work to afford health care so there's no way they can be at the hospital with their kid 24/7, especially in America. Do not victim blame any parents because they weren't at their child's bedside. Besides, the killer could still do harm in plain sight by lying about treatments or waiting until the parent is asleep.
I was born February 18th 1991 at Grantham hospital. 4 days before her first victim. I thank my lucky stars i was a healthy child.
R u okay now?
Thank God!! He’s the one that protected you that day! Hope you are fine
Yikes!!!
yeah definitely didn’t happen
@@siilentttt
The person is alive, so it happened. *Just because nothing interesting happens to you, that doesn't mean this didn't happen* 🤡
It's disturbing to think that history might be repeating itself again with the Lucy Letby case currently going on.
Exactly I've been asking myself this! How did this happen again?! Lucy killing innocent babies. As a retired registered nurse from the NHS I cannot get my head around this. As a nurse you are in a great position of trust and you do not betray that trust. My condolences to the parents of those innocent little babies. Xx
it has happened again
I am here because it has happened again- how?
Amelia Dyer, Beverley Allit and now Lucy Letby...
@@judithlee842 It is a miniscule statistic, don't worry too much.
With Lucy Letby and Beverly Allit it does make me wonder if there have been other cases where it's either not been noticed or swept under the rug, Lucy almost got away with it.
I think the same, and I also think that there will be other baby's that were murdered by Lucy just as with Dr Harold Shipman they think his number of murdered victims was at very least 400+ so next time a doctor or a nurse says ...trust me I'm a nurse or trust me I'm a doctor 😳 alarm bells will be ringing in my head
Almost surely. There are so many millions of helathcare workers in the west , those other places cant even be measured really. The odds against any evil payhcopaths being in a field for so ling where its so eailsy hiddne... those caught may be a small minority
@@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq totally agree, there will more than likely quite a few that have got clean off Scott free and gone totally un-noticed for the most intelligent knows that hiding in plain sight is the best cover they can have as long as they don't think they are to clever and put themselves at the centre of attention at the forefront shouting I'm here I'm here, then many will slip the net faded in the background the quiet ones the silent types that never say boo to a goose, yes it's almost certain to have happened before and more than once and in different jobs in the medical field just look how long Harold Shipman got away with it, he was only caught really through greed, trust me I'm a doctor trust me I'm a nurse, trust me I'm a policeman and so on and so on ...and we do trust these kinds of people because we never think there could be anything wrong with someone in a job that society's trust, but the trust levels are now declining fast I feel, but if we can't trust people in those jobs who can we trust, it's a case of we have to go on putting our trust into these people ( with a little caution) let's not forget there are only a few rotten apples on a good apple tree ✝️🛐❤️🫂🤝🫂
Happens more often then you think. Hospitals like to make people resign so they dont get sued and to protect there image
I worked with someone like this. Compulsive liar. She has nearly qualified as a nurse now and i am sick and tired of telling her superiors that she is very dangerous .
Until she actually kills someone, i suppose they cant do anything.
I did try though, and i will keep warning staff who find themselves working with her.
I will more than likely be reported for harrassment 🙄
Defo look into investigations!!! Quite a few years before Lucy Letby was found guilty, people working in the hospital with her did become suspicious of her. In 2017 an investigation was launched and then a few days ago she was found guilty.
Please remind them of the cases of Lucy Letby and Beverly Allitt!!!
Exactly!!!And thank you!!!
My sister is a liar and schemer and has the right to take children from those not deemed fit to be parents.....but she's worse!! I've tried to report her....she also looks into everyone's medical notes!! But it's me that's called the liar....My Abusive mother backs her up and vice versa!! ....so I just have nothing to do with them!!!
That Would be a scary situation to be in for sure! I’ve been in the hospital over the years & some of those nurses act like they are runnin the whole Show! Hopefully they are not killers but after hearing all This it kinda makes you wonder !!
How in the world can anyone harm a child? RIP sweet babies.
Right now the Pope is in Quebec and admit that some of his Priests did bad things, nothing about the Catholic Church that moved Priest, no charges, and won't RECIND THE DOCTORINE OF DISCOVERY. WE NATIVES ARE RESTLESS, and I'm Metis. 🇨🇦
Rose, there are many very sick people that work in many "help" industries. Too many sociopaths or psychopaths to count. The inability to feel emotion, to feel empathy for others, to care what others feel when they harm another human being. They can often MIMIC human emotion, and do it well, but not actually and truly being able to FEEL said emotions ... that is a dangerous person who, unfortunately, is beyond our help with the science we have today. I'm not sure they should ever be allowed back into society.
The human mind can be a frightening and unknown place in many instances. I hope that science, one day, can "fix" or "cure" these types of people. Until that time, we have to protect the people from folks like this woman.
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They are a special kind of evil!
Millions of people
For reasons of economy they took away the position of Matron in hospitals, replaced them with managers who have little of no medical knowledge , just know how to save more money to cover their inflated salaries. Matrons were strict but mostly caring people to patients and staff, they would have recognised so many deaths around one person so much quicker. Now management by distance.
That wasn't the reason
This is a very good comment. The matron knew each nurse at such a personal level that they could define their abilities and capabilities. If there was a red flag emerging, they could analyse it, yet protect, and direct the individual. It is such a loss that these role models were removed.
IMO Allitt should not have been put in a mental hospital. She showed no remorse for those babies so why should she be shown compassion? Should have let her rot in the jail cell!
Exactly....evil isnt mental health illness...
@lisasuzannekear-ranby8101 It is, it's psychopothy. But you're both still right, she should be in jail just like all other psychopaths.
One of my workmates when he was 3 was ill in Grantham hospital when Beverley Allitt was on the same ward. He still is shook up today at what could have been an untimely ending to his life, luckily fate spared him.
Came hear after the lucy letby case, almost an identical case its actually scary
They look related as well
Letby is even worse.
@@melgrant7404 I wonder if Beverly was like an idol to her 😕 so disturbing
Never heard of this case and ive lived in Grantham for 10 years. Its eerily similar to Lucy Letby
This is a heartbreaking story. Those poor parents. That she even dared do this with a perfectly healthy child just admitted as a precaution after her sibling died. How callous to keep targeting that family. The staff must feel awful for not realising sooner.
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I know. My heart goes out to that poor doctor that Recommended they bring in the other baby. Of course he had no idea at the time what was goin on. Bless him.
@@blossom1643909
Here after the Lucy letby conviction
Yes same. Letby is even worse.
I don’t understand how they didn’t make the link. Beverly starts on the ward, and babies start having collapses and dying
Look at the idiot of a doctor that worked there though, and his attitude to the police
How could people harm such innocent babies so helpless it’s really sad and evil
When I was 7, I was tortured by female nurse.
I was from a loving family, so I was so confused by the violence and hate directed at me.
I'm 48 now, but I can still picture her.
The next day, I was made to pose for some happy pictures, whilst my parents thanked the nurse for her kindness.
Just thought I'd share this.
So she had clearly deceived your parents then? What an awful experience for you.
That is truly awful, I'm so sorry you had to go through this. Please don't let that evil human being affect your life, seek help if you need it 🙏
Awful, I feel you’re pain. I went through similar situations. I’d be tempted to hunt her down and confront her.
@@Cristobal_2012 She'll either be dead or an old biddy by now. I bet I wasn't the only one too. Hopefully , the Universe will weigh her up against better people.
I hope so x
Some nurses are evil. One tried to force my Dad to sign a do not resuscitate order without letting him read it. Threw towels at him and shouted at him. Shockingly their colleagues often cover up mishaps to protect each other. She was giving my Dad a different patient’s meds and tried to inject him with insulin. My Dad didn’t ever want to go back to hospital after that even when gravely ill
And now we have The trial of Lucy Letby.
No lesson learned here.
British law is way to lenient. Make that manipulative broken narcissist sit in a cell forever.
Oh screw that doctor that said the police presence was obstructive - like, dr. Sir, your hospital is not running so great if 4 kids unexpectedly die?! Weirdo.
Awful doctor how dare he speak like that!
Should be struck off
The staff around Allitt, some of whom appear in this video, were probably negligent at the time, I'd say. How did nobody notice this "staggering" phenomenon of children mysteriously dying, pretty much continuously, for so long? It really is appalling.
I see what you mean but hindsight and all that. If you expect good of people you can be blind to evil. Her colleagues probably feel guilty to this day but she was the one to blame, not them.
@@ab-hs3ouI know this is a late reply but it's an important one of the nurses who worked with Allit was my wife's godmother she committed suicide because she couldn't live with the thought she didn't spot it sooner.
My family know most of the staff from that time and they're haunted you can see it in they're eyes.
Anyone seeking to blame them should be ashamed of themselves with their assumptions
How awful. I'm so sorry to hear this.@@stephenwilliams5575
Because No one Believed a Nurse could do this!!! 😢 It's No one's fault but HERS!!!
This sadly isn't an isolated case. We've had at least 2 here in the US.
Recently in Cheshire, England a nurse named Lucy Letby had been charged w/ the murder of 8 babies and attempting to murder 2 more
Attempted 10 more.
And it will continue there’s many who haven’t been caught 😢
Lucy Letby attempted to kill 15 more babies
It’s frightening to think she could be free next year, having served 30 years!!
Surprised she still alive after killing baby's fucked evil
Just because she could doesn't mean they will!🙏
I hope she stays in prison for her entire life. She will kill again if she's free
Wtf
I hope she doesn't get out of prison. She's a psychopath
Rehabilitation for a serial killer? What a joke this system is!
At least it helps them to become a more stable person
@@bambiesdoomsdayblueIt doesn't though. That kind of mental illness can't be treated.
anyone who could hurt kill, or harm a baby should never see light of day again. on another note martina cole my fav author
I remember a case of a male nurse in Germany and a lesbian nurse in Canada. There is a book called doctors who kill that covers health care workers who kill.
Seriously, in those days, they could have hid some cameras around the place. That's nuts they had to wait for months while she harmed children to get enough evidence against her.
They didn’t want to know. Do you know how many cases there are like this? The victims counts are so high and usually they will have like 15 hospital jobs. People start noticing everyone dies only when so and so is working. Once it’s basically known they just let them move on to the next hospital. No one wants those lawsuits. It’s horrendous. Also never mind a psychotic nurse or dr trying to kill you your chances of straight up stupidity being what kills you in a hospital are very high! I’m pretty sure the third leading cause of death in hospital is human error. Yeah ! I may be off on on exactly how far up the list it is but yes human error. That’s why they have to write NO on the arm or let they aren’t operating on! Hahahaha as an extra precaution
Allitt should be in prison not a Mental Health hospital. I don't think it's right she gets a nice easy life in a Mental health hospital when those poor babies and other child victims are dead or still suffering from what she did!!
How dare that dr call the police a nuisance! I have no doubt they closed ranks and were awkward as possible. I will go further l would bet that Allitt could have been stopped quicker if they'd been helpful. I am glad the police stuck it out. And l hope that dr goes to hospital some time and receives the same general crappy treatment you generally get.
This is so heartbreaking & disturbing, Those parents that's so sad that four parents lost a child at the hands of Beverly Allitt, may she rot in prison!
And this has just happened all over again in the UK
Crazy how similar lucy letby is to her. It's like she got inspired and wanted to recreat this. Even the attention seeking personality is the same
Even their smile 😦
Letby is far worse evidently.
As a nurse I find it so rare to see a nurse who doesn't want to heal. That's why it's news..
Psychopath come in all forms
Not true. I worked in a hospital for years, lots of crazy nurses, and doctors. Reason I quit. Sick
@@phillipsmom6252 statistically very low. Crazy and murderous are different
@@phillipsmom6252 what did you do in the hospital? I find that hard to believe. I've worked in hospital nursing homes and yes crazy nurses this is murder. Way different
@@phillipsmom6252 yeah about that. that's not the reason you quit and you know it.
Should have gotten LIFE!.... She will never be cured....She will never change...
Watching this doc after Lucy letby is sentenced
And yet murderers get let out of jail/prison all the time.
Lucy letby is this case all over in court at the mo in Manchester uk terrible terrible situation 😢
This is truly one of the most evil people I've heard of
I dont go into hospital anymore because the last time i did this nurse came in and pulled up my pjs and said she was going to give me a injection to stop my blood from clotting but she wanted to push it into my belly. Now i wasn't undergoing any operation or having anything major done. I believe if i hadnt grabbed her wrist and stopped her she would have killed me. i also said no i didnt want it and she said why dont you push the needle in yourself and thats when i grabbed her wrist and she ran out of the room. If it had been a injection i needed why didnt the doctor say anything to me about refusing it then?
Lol that's standard for anyone in hospital. It's because you're sedentary in bed whilst in hospital. They give it to almost all adults and it is totally normal. She wasn't trying to kill you. 😂😂🤡🤡🤦
This is most stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in a long time! Clexanes are standard treatment for all patients admitted to hospital - this does not only include people undergoing surgery - it basically anyone! 😅😅😅
@@THEMADHATTRESS i wasnt sedentary in the bed i was still up and walking around so no i didn't need the injection and sure you hear all about nurses giving patients doses of medicine to kill them to ease their work load
@@sarhflynn061thankfully in 35 years I didn’t hear that. Or see it. Nurses tend to leave the profession to reduce workload.
@@sarhflynn061 It's given BEFORE you go for an operation, in preparation for when you are sedentary in bed after your op.
Now you got Lucy Letby out here murdering babies smh 🤦🏾♀️
Lucy letby: hold my beer
I think here in England no one who was around when this hit the news can forget it
How can a nurse hurt children when there supposed to be minding them not harming them it's awful, Rest in Eternal Peace the four Sweet little angel children who died at the hands of Beverly Allitt
Someone who preys on the weak & defenseless is a cruel, sadistic coward. This one needs to rot in prison.
I’m only watching this now because I heard about her so much the past few days because of them comparing her to lucy Letby , I wonder if both of them have the same problems 😊
Oh wow both cases are very similar but at least they done what they can to stop her
I have heard of this case, it is told very well in this series. this isn't an isolated case I think there was few in the united states as well.
Yes there were. One of them was Genene Jones in Texas and another was Kristen Gilbert in Massachusetts. Not sure about any others in the US
The presenter is acting all tough and rough. It's really strange for such a serious documentary.
Rest in peace lovely babies. It makes me so angry that this creature isn't in a proper prison .
Who's here because of lucy lethby
I grieve for the life they should have had with their children.
The scary thing is; we are surrounded by serial killers all the time. It could be your next door neighbour, the local post worker, a teacher, a doctor, a care home assistant etc. It could be ANYONE and they often get away with it for years before being found out. Most never get caught. Terrifying 😮
I did not working with children as a nurse. I was somehow timid and scared to do all the mean stuff to them we nurses have to do. I passed my clinicals with flying colors but i told my instructor honestly. It wasnt a dislike of children at all as i has 4 of my own. I was just scatterbrained and timid and nervous.
I can't be the only one watching this following the conviction of Lucy Letby.
Please check out “Dagmar Overbye” babykiller from the early 1900s Denmark..least 8 children was murdered
She needs to go to jail and if she hurts herself, then that's up to her!
I already heard about Beverly Allitt case but this documentary really done great work I am horrified by what is she done to that little children poisoning them with insulin I can't imagine how that poor baby's feeling it is agony to have so much insulin in organism it is terefaing especially because baby's are so small that they can't say everything I am so sorry about 4 baby's who are die and I hope that they rest in peace 🕊️👼❤️ thanks to God 🙏 that other children survive my heart ❤️ gose to the parents and family's who lost their little angels 😇❤️ I am really mad 😡 because this psycho monster who is coold bloody murderer now is in hospital where she have everything what she needs and live free ❗ I mean what ❓ she deserves to be in prison forever ❗ this is not justice for what she done because she is selfish manipulative and calculated monster who just sicking atancion ❗ she manipulate even the court pretending that she is insane and have a mental health issues believe me that she is not mentally ill I know what I am talking about it is easy est in situations like this that person desided to harm herself to avoid everything for what she is responsible what Munchausen by proxy ❓❗ because she harm herself she must have diagnoses that is the way how psychiatry works what is terrible in this case especially for parents I really don't have a word for this I am sorry for my bad english because it is not my first language so I hope that you will understand me because I am from Croatia
Understood your English perfectly 👏👏
In my country, MBP is the one "mental illness" you can have & still go to a normal prison, though where I live the mental ward is said to be WORSE than jail..
everyone knows why I'm here today....
Unfortunately no death penalty in UK?
No let them rot in prison
It's a pity there were shabby errors in the presentation. The narrator refers to Allitt's 'hypochondria' (extreme anxiety about having a disease or developing one). Allitt was not a hypochondriac, she was diagnosed with Munchausen syndrome by proxy, which is entirely different. She also refers to 'psychotic' behaviour in a way that suggests it's just being used as a synonym for 'mad'. The narrator also says 'grievious' more than once. There's no such word: it's 'grievous'.
She was also a hypochondriac.
She could be both?
She had/has Munchausen's syndrome (faking illness in yourself) and Munchausen syndrome by proxy (faking or inducing real illness in those in your charge).Hypochondria does not involve any faking. It's a highly distressing anxiety disorder, in which people truly believe their lives could be at risk of disease or death, despite the absence of evidence of a serious disease or the risk of developing one (my mother suffers from it, and, as a psychotherapist, I treat people with it). Anxiety and fear are alien to Allitt, who, despite her monstrous crimes, slept perfectly well throughout this horror story (and presumably still does), indifferent as she is to the victims of her terrible crimes. @@jenny2tone242
Agreed! The "grievious" always gets me!
How can anyone call that a lady?
And now the case has repeated itself, but worse… tragic
Letby is even worse.
Poor little babies 😞😭😢sad life
This series is interesting and somewhat addictive. Thanks so much! :)
Nobody can run away from the Universal Laws of Karma , just as nobody can run away from Ageing , Sickness & Death! Deepest condolences to the Families & Friends of the Departed Innocent Toddlers ... May their Innocent Souls be Blessed to a Better World & Realm ...
Sorry but if karma is universal, then it implies the babies must have done something to deserve this (which is obviously not correct)..? Or what am I missing
@@Tiger-789The babies may have wanted such experiences from their past lives to help such a person live out their negative karmas.
I totally believe that mother!! She will be waiting
I wonder, even today, if there might be a way to give a psych assessment to potential nursing staff. I know it's not going to catch all incidences of mental health, but, it may help somewhat.
At the very least for children and infants !!
I totally agree with you
They can’t find staff and take anyone sadly
Not sure if psych assessments but in Spain if the NHS has a van an y for a doctor or a nurse position the applicants have to go through a very difficult exam, almost university level exam, to proof all their knowledge. It takes a person to study for months to the go to take that exam. Only the best get to filled the position. Hence the calibre of medical staff in that country. I was surprised when I moved to the uk that you can apply to any NHS job like any other job in the private sector.
Police officers have to undergo a very detailed physiological assessment to make sure they have the mental competence and empathy to police others with compassion. We should employ such an approach to every type of position that gives power to one over others.
No one did a blood sugar when these babies collapsed??A basic instant test that would show what the problem was! And weeks to get a blood test back showing high insulin levels? Disgusting.
Thank you for this video.. Now I will feel asleep
💜 LOVE these true crime videos
No life Like you say to others👍🤣🤣
She was supposed to get out last year? Any update?
Well researched
I blame lazy supervision and lax drug accounting systems.
Its not more difficult to work out why women kill. It's all the same stuff, abuse, narcissism, anger etc. The guy at the beginning who says there was never an incident of nurses killing children is doing a disservice because there are many instances of female serial killers in history, and no doubt societies ignorance about lady killers has allowed many to get away by never being identified and caught.
Bla bla bla still nowhere near as many as men.
@@luckystone2293 Many go under the radar and statistics don't tell the full story , and also the environment i.e society plays a big part, and society is changing in many ways.
@@mhtbfecsq1 If they are going under the radar and not being caught, how on earth do you know for certain they exist? You don't know, pure speculation on your part. We can only go on those who have been caught and in that, women serial killers are nowhere near as many as male serial killers. Fact.
@@luckystone2293 Your statement doesn't disapprove anything. There are other female serial killers who were also caretakers for both newborns and seniors. They lived in the functional but deeply flawed society so it went unnoticed for these cases until the body count was becoming a concern. This shows that women can kill, just like men, since you know, they are all humans.
Mad how 30 years later and the enquiry into Lucy Letby was so much worse and so much slower
At the management's hands. Fortunately there's a public enquiry next month
This broad got no justice for her crimes she will most likely be killed if she ever GETS OUT! I for one thinks she should be in hard core prison and take what ever her mate's give her.
Better still b4 she gets out.
Great coverage
There is no treatment for this woman no pill in the world would make a difference send her back to prison it’s what she deserves
Per Wikipedia: "On October 3 2023, it was reported that Allitt was appearing before a mental health tribunal to be assessed for a potential transfer to a mainstream prison. If the transfer takes place, Allitt will be eligible for parole after six months."
Why don’t they put cameras in the wards of special little babies
The 90’s were such a different time - the nhs took anyone on that showed an interest in nursing - very few checks
What makes you think today’s any different to what it was in 90’s? NHS is currently in so much need for nurses that will basically hire anyone! No matter how competent one is!
Some nurses are indeed evil
What a shame to think that! 23 YEARS now and still the same, NHS will take anyone!
I work with this women before I left company won’t say no more
Thank you for the upload. Could no one hold that lady's baby at 20 min lol
Just weird that she's not locked in at a prison ! My thoughts and empathy goes to these parents. This is not justice for the children she did killed, harmed and these who survived an attempted murder. And not justice for the parents!
I was born in grantham hospital in 1971 glad it was before beverley allit worked there
Just read Lucy Letby story. This looks exactly the same . WOW.
She was only just a nurse.
I live a half hour drive away from the hospital
Wow! Made her godmother of remaining child!!!
Lucy Letby next
Um it took weeks to get the results of a blood sample? Really?? In 1991?
It's now August 2023. Thirty years since she was sentenced. She is supposed to be eligible for parole after 30 years. Any updates, anyone??
why ''angel'' of death... shouldn't it be devil of death?
Wait a minute. Is this the wonderful Martina Cole. I'm reading one of her books right now ❤
They should place her with Lucy Letby and record it.
So 4 innocent die in the hands of a sadistic person, and she will be out this year,she should have got life,RIP to those poor kids 😢
A murderer is a murder . A multiple murderer stays a multiple murderer . Yes we can search why they kill but their place is in jail for a long time . 30 years aren’t so long for an individual who can return to freedom . She was 26 . At 56 years old , She can kill again . She doesn’t need motive , she just need the desire .☹️
your DB Cooper podcast didn't even mention Cocaine Bear! :(
Did hospitals 🏥 have camera security to care for babies 😢
My carers twins were in hospital at the time allitt was working on that ward luckily they stayed with
There twins and didn’t leave them alone at all. Both left unharmed thankfully
i bet shes furious now because shes not the only one now....
Seems lessons were not learned because lucy letby just done the same and worse
My daughter had a tumor ALWAYS either I or her papa. SHE WAS NEVER LEFT ALONE FOR WEEKS. BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE INSANE COMPLETELY BOGOS. TO LEAVE ANY CHILD WITH ANYONE. BUT FAMILY. PERIOD we as parents, of course, get very tired, sleepy. The feelings are immense, but we are not the ones who are suffering. It’s the child. This is a personal thought never in my life no matter how many times or how long has she ever been left alone for any reason. Am I the ONLY ONE WHO DOES THIS????
I am speaking of YEARS IN ALL KINDS OF MEDICAL FACILITIES FOR TUMORS. I NEVER LEFT HER NOT BECAUSE IM A SPECIAL PARENT. BUT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I DID AND WILL DO
Please remember the most tomb, important rules in life first rule never trust anyone with anything that you love second rule never ever forget the first
Some people have to work to afford health care so there's no way they can be at the hospital with their kid 24/7, especially in America. Do not victim blame any parents because they weren't at their child's bedside. Besides, the killer could still do harm in plain sight by lying about treatments or waiting until the parent is asleep.
@karenelizabeth1590 EXACTLY! How disgusting to blame the parents who probably already torture themselves over what happened to their innocent babies!
I have read all of her books sometime read twice keep writing books martina and I’ll keep reading😂😂😂