I added Gaia II to my Q Acoustics Concept 500 and sound difference was huge, to the point I was able to open rear bass ports with the speakers pretty near to back wall. Definitely they decoupled speakers from floating wood floor which was reinforcing bass perception as mentioned in video. Now speakers bass ports are opened, sound is more clear and I have still to re-fine tune system eq. I also decouped my SVS 3000Pro subs with their optional SVS feet and bass were more controlled and not depending on the room resonance.
I was hoping to see graphs of the with and without the things. The one graph shown in the entire review did not make clear what was the difference without these artifacts. Edit: I see others mentioning that it can improve response, quality etc. If that is true, where are the measurements that show it?
There is a graph showing w and without GAIA. It's not a trivial matter to capture this. The resonances shift in spectrum with and without the isolation feet despite the amplitude response remains virtually unchanged.
I have concrete flloor and used GAIA I and they have made a substantial improvement in my two channels system. Clearer midrange, cleaner bass, and broader soundstage. I highly suggest using the GAIA footers for wood floor to get more accurate sound. The vibration from the wood floor does reinforce the bass, but that is not accurate.
Ive had my Polk LSIM 706C center on an iso acoustic center channel stand for many years. When running room correction the pink noise tone sounds different when it hits my center channel speaker on this stand. Results are always great and yes dialogue is clear with a nice bass presence to it. Definitely not snake oil. Only glitch with this stand is once you put a speaker on it for awhile you just cant take it apart to add height option. The stand is so sturdy you cant pry it apart,
For a review at the minimum I was hoping to actually be shown the device with weight on it and how it can or can't move. I was really hoping you would at least push it around to show that it does have a decoupling effect.
As a long time fan of audioholics this was sad to watch. This is not a “review”. Its a marketing video. Half the video was installation ( most can figure that out) the other half was was a half ass anecdote . I want to know more about the product, how the technology actually works to justify the price. How is this better over svs isolation feet or a pad of sorbathane or heck even yoga mat? As others have mentioned, some measurements with our without this installed. Putting out trash reviews like this brings audioholics down to the level of other paid shills on youtube.
I used the aperta 300 on a midrange Krix sub a few years ago. Couldn’t personally notice a different and returned it. Not an expensive sub in a room with no treatment.
Nice quick review! I replaced my spikes with M8 rubber cones (vibration dampers for machinery, was like $6 per cone), for a lot less money and they look great. Too bad the comparison is between spikes and this and not any other run of the mill rubber feet, would have loved to see the difference, but you can’t test everything.
I have the bookshelf feet and earlier version of the stands and in my opinion they work great i have the stands under my 2 subwoolfers and have stopped the vibration on both subwoolfers and on my 7 bookshelf speakers (including the 2 Atmos speakers). As I live in 12x12x8 room.
IsoAcoustic stuff is not snake oil but extremely overpriced imho. If you have $10K speakers it shouldn't be a problem to get fancy $600 isolation pucks but there also are more budget friendly options that may work as well.
Trying the Gaia for bookshelf on stands I could definitely hear a difference, but then again the tweeter gets raised as the speakers ends up standing taller.. so if it was decoupling or just the fact previous mentioned I couldn’t tell. They do look nice though :)
Knowing what floor construction you have in your listening room is critical to getting the most out of your system. Whether you need to couple or decouple your speakers depends on this construction knowledge. For concrete, ceramic tile over concrete or stone tile over concrete coupling is recommended because these floor constructions dissipate the excess energy your speakers produce and this cleans up what would be muddled sound quality. The exception is wood over concrete floor construction which, because of the wooden part, reflects back into the speaker which muddies up and destroys the speaker’s imaging. Any surface treatment over conventional wooden flooring construction requires isolation as it reflects back into the speaker and causes the same issues as the wood over concrete construction. This can be conquered with isolation stands and feet as covered in this video. The fact anyone would want their sound affected in an adverse way to vary it from the real I find sad as your speakers’ true character cannot be known if the excess energy they deliver to the floor goes unaddressed. To each their own. A speaker’s true abilities are not known until it is properly coupled or decoupled based on addressing the floor construction issue. That is a fact friends, not an opinion!
I am about to receive my second attempt at owning floor standing loudspeakers, my original pair were DALI Oberon 5's. This time it will the Acoustic Energy 109mk2's which I bet will perform beyond the DALI's. The big question is how to cheaply couple or decouple them, I have wood over concrete flooring on carpet. Spikes were not very stable with the DALI's and I imagine the same for the AE109mk2's.
Snake oil? I don’t think so unless Isoaccoustics is making claims that can’t be substantiated - are they expensive? Sure. Are nice looking cables with upgraded connectors expensive? sure. Is it worth it - up to you. It would be interesting to see measurable performance of these vs others to see if they provide extra value for the $$$ but for now what I see are expensive isolators that sound like they do the job and look nice.
But there is more to this. The IsoAcoustics Gaia II AND the Perlisten with their stands and steel feet spokes are meant for each other. Almost seems like a custom factory mod. Not sure what other bookshelf stand or floor standing speaker would benefit from the IsoAcoustics Gaia II screwed into the base?
Hey Gene, why don’t you guys do a review of Q Acoustics Concept 500 speakers? They are supposed to be textbook engineering and affordable . Would be good to see what you guys think of those compared to other speakers you’ve reviewed.
Yea that’s a continuous problem unfortunately. I’m guessing the camera is set to Auto Focus so it keeps focusing in (no pun intended) on various areas when it’s close to them. 🤷♂️🤔
@@Audioholics if I get a storm audio mk3 32ch processor can I use the digital out to connect to a ml 32d and like the trinnov simultaneously use it with the analog outs to go up to 46-64ch or is the software in the processor not supporting this?
Speaker isolation is real thing with real effects, look at recording studio monitors, they are often isolated. But these things are crazy overpriced for some rubber.
@@ErackEMM same can be said about expensive cables, which might improve teh signal, but the price you pay for a minor, and I mean tiny miny little one is not worth it and be categorize it as snake oil. And if you buy good speakers they come with quite feet I guess next up is cable reviews, and if they gonna say its an improvement, well we gonna go and buy some upgraded cables then
one mans "snake oil" is another mans "best upgrade" just have your own experience brother. I know it seems silly that some of these little bits of gear are so expensive but some people enjoy them which is what the hobby is all about (enjoyment) and for those that don't we get to save money :)
They do look nice but i am not convinced its any different from the spikes you had.These isolation feet are more effective where the speakers rattle things or the floor creating other sounds around the room, they wont be any better here , but its all subjective .
A well-known company that sold 1/3 of all speakers in the world 40 years ago placed 4 pieces of felt on its top model as insulation from the floor. Comment?
Simply do a blind test Jean to see if 2 squash balls cut in half is inferior to this product? Will be interesting to see if you do, especially as your affiliated with this product and many people don't like hypocrisy...
The only hypocrisy is made up in your head. Shane is entitled to his own opinions as a reviewer on our channel or his. That said I'd love to do such a comparison, but that's something to add to a very long laundry list of things I'm currently working on.
@@Audioholics Would have took 2 minutes to put squash balls underneath and measure so 🤔...Shane's opinion on your channel is Your opinion by default...
Idiotic. You don't need a blind test to know physically decoupling a speaker from the floor will change its behavior. The question is which way do you prefer. I did the test in a very controlled manner and heard a clear difference as linked up in this video. Shane’s experiences match what I heard in my testing too.
@@Audioholicsthe laser vibrometer data shows there is some behavior that has a measureable difference. What it does NOT prove is if that difference is perceptible and furthermore if the perceptible difference is desired. Blind tests are also not required to "know" different speakers sound different, but they sure have helped us learn about how we perceive sound from loudspeakers. Dismissing a method to control for bias in testing an extremely overpriced product is a bad look.
There is no small snake oil in these I’m not gonna say it again and they worth money as much money as they pay for them but definitely improve the sound quality definitely without out. So it’s up to you if you want to spend on money but I’m telling you it is different.
Svs sells something like this for much cheaper. Maybe see if they do the job and save the $$
Svs Soundpath is very good, had these. 👌
I added Gaia II to my Q Acoustics Concept 500 and sound difference was huge, to the point I was able to open rear bass ports with the speakers pretty near to back wall. Definitely they decoupled speakers from floating wood floor which was reinforcing bass perception as mentioned in video. Now speakers bass ports are opened, sound is more clear and I have still to re-fine tune system eq. I also decouped my SVS 3000Pro subs with their optional SVS feet and bass were more controlled and not depending on the room resonance.
I was hoping to see graphs of the with and without the things. The one graph shown in the entire review did not make clear what was the difference without these artifacts.
Edit: I see others mentioning that it can improve response, quality etc. If that is true, where are the measurements that show it?
There is a graph showing w and without GAIA. It's not a trivial matter to capture this. The resonances shift in spectrum with and without the isolation feet despite the amplitude response remains virtually unchanged.
I have concrete flloor and used GAIA I and they have made a substantial improvement in my two channels system. Clearer midrange, cleaner bass, and broader soundstage. I highly suggest using the GAIA footers for wood floor to get more accurate sound. The vibration from the wood floor does reinforce the bass, but that is not accurate.
Ive had my Polk LSIM 706C center on an iso acoustic center channel stand for many years. When running room correction the pink noise tone sounds different when it hits my center channel speaker on this stand. Results are always great and yes dialogue is clear with a nice bass presence to it. Definitely not snake oil. Only glitch with this stand is once you put a speaker on it for awhile you just cant take it apart to add height option. The stand is so sturdy you cant pry it apart,
For a review at the minimum I was hoping to actually be shown the device with weight on it and how it can or can't move. I was really hoping you would at least push it around to show that it does have a decoupling effect.
As a long time fan of audioholics this was sad to watch. This is not a “review”. Its a marketing video.
Half the video was installation ( most can figure that out) the other half was was a half ass anecdote .
I want to know more about the product, how the technology actually works to justify the price. How is this better over svs isolation feet or a pad of sorbathane or heck even yoga mat? As others have mentioned, some measurements with our without this installed.
Putting out trash reviews like this brings audioholics down to the level of other paid shills on youtube.
You poor thing.
I loved the video and Shane's perspective. You're welcome to think otherwise.
@@nerovero9164 you poor thing.
@@therealshanelee Wow what a personality black hole - please bore off to your own channel that we can avoid.
Can I put these on the legs of my sofa and decouple myself from the room?
Yes, and your farts will be silent 🤘
@@AudioClownHT not if its leather or foix leather 🤔
I used the aperta 300 on a midrange Krix sub a few years ago. Couldn’t personally notice a different and returned it.
Not an expensive sub in a room with no treatment.
Nice quick review! I replaced my spikes with M8 rubber cones (vibration dampers for machinery, was like $6 per cone), for a lot less money and they look great. Too bad the comparison is between spikes and this and not any other run of the mill rubber feet, would have loved to see the difference, but you can’t test everything.
I have the bookshelf feet and earlier version of the stands and in my opinion they work great i have the stands under my 2 subwoolfers and have stopped the vibration on both subwoolfers and on my 7 bookshelf speakers (including the 2 Atmos speakers). As I live in 12x12x8 room.
IsoAcoustic stuff is not snake oil but extremely overpriced imho.
If you have $10K speakers it shouldn't be a problem to get fancy $600 isolation pucks but there also are more budget friendly options that may work as well.
Trying the Gaia for bookshelf on stands I could definitely hear a difference, but then again the tweeter gets raised as the speakers ends up standing taller.. so if it was decoupling or just the fact previous mentioned I couldn’t tell. They do look nice though :)
Could you review the all new Arya Audio Labs Revopods damping feet
Shane, can you tell me the size of the M8 1.25 long threads are for the Perlisten r7t/s7t, so I can just buy those at a hardware store?
where did you get the top part that adjusts the screw when you install the
IsoAcoustics
Knowing what floor construction you have in your listening room is critical to getting the most out of your system. Whether you need to couple or decouple your speakers depends on this construction knowledge. For concrete, ceramic tile over concrete or stone tile over concrete coupling is recommended because these floor constructions dissipate the excess energy your speakers produce and this cleans up what would be muddled sound quality. The exception is wood over concrete floor construction which, because of the wooden part, reflects back into the speaker which muddies up and destroys the speaker’s imaging. Any surface treatment over conventional wooden flooring construction requires isolation as it reflects back into the speaker and causes the same issues as the wood over concrete construction. This can be conquered with isolation stands and feet as covered in this video. The fact anyone would want their sound affected in an adverse way to vary it from the real I find sad as your speakers’ true character cannot be known if the excess energy they deliver to the floor goes unaddressed. To each their own. A speaker’s true abilities are not known until it is properly coupled or decoupled based on addressing the floor construction issue. That is a fact friends, not an opinion!
I am about to receive my second attempt at owning floor standing loudspeakers, my original pair were DALI Oberon 5's. This time it will the Acoustic Energy 109mk2's which I bet will perform beyond the DALI's. The big question is how to cheaply couple or decouple them, I have wood over concrete flooring on carpet. Spikes were not very stable with the DALI's and I imagine the same for the AE109mk2's.
Snake oil? I don’t think so unless Isoaccoustics is making claims that can’t be substantiated - are they expensive? Sure. Are nice looking cables with upgraded connectors expensive? sure. Is it worth it - up to you. It would be interesting to see measurable performance of these vs others to see if they provide extra value for the $$$ but for now what I see are expensive isolators that sound like they do the job and look nice.
Did you have to cut off some of the long screw to get the Perlisten cap on?
But there is more to this. The IsoAcoustics Gaia II AND the Perlisten with their stands and steel feet spokes are meant for each other. Almost seems like a custom factory mod.
Not sure what other bookshelf stand or floor standing speaker would benefit from the IsoAcoustics Gaia II screwed into the base?
I would love to put them under my old POLK RT-5000 system for the look... but it,s too expensive and useless for the sound
Ho da poco cambiato tutti i piedini che erano giá buoni con i Gaia Il,orea Indigo Aperata sub e aperta per surround meraviglia Audio. Top top 👍👍🎵🎞️
Hey Gene, why don’t you guys do a review of Q Acoustics Concept 500 speakers?
They are supposed to be textbook engineering and affordable .
Would be good to see what you guys think of those compared to other speakers you’ve reviewed.
Not sure about how much these cost but i made something similar for $20 with enough material left over to make another 6 sets
The camera focus is wonky
Yea that’s a continuous problem unfortunately. I’m guessing the camera is set to Auto Focus so it keeps focusing in (no pun intended) on various areas when it’s close to them. 🤷♂️🤔
It would be interesting to see some A-B comparison measurements...
Can i use this for all jtr and klipsch floor standing speakers?
sure you can!
@@Audioholics if I get a storm audio mk3 32ch processor can I use the digital out to connect to a
ml 32d and like the trinnov simultaneously use it with the analog outs to go up to 46-64ch or is the software in the processor not supporting this?
I thought the moto of this channel was "No snake oil"...
Speaker isolation is real thing with real effects, look at recording studio monitors, they are often isolated. But these things are crazy overpriced for some rubber.
@@ErackEMM same can be said about expensive cables, which might improve teh signal, but the price you pay for a minor, and I mean tiny miny little one is not worth it and be categorize it as snake oil.
And if you buy good speakers they come with quite feet
I guess next up is cable reviews, and if they gonna say its an improvement, well we gonna go and buy some upgraded cables then
one mans "snake oil" is another mans "best upgrade" just have your own experience brother. I know it seems silly that some of these little bits of gear are so expensive but some people enjoy them which is what the hobby is all about (enjoyment) and for those that don't we get to save money :)
@@NemoPropaganda nicely put :) ok, I can agree on that :)
@@sneikiusas a cable can never improve the signal.
They do look nice but i am not convinced its any different from the spikes you had.These isolation feet are more effective where the speakers rattle things or the floor creating other sounds around the room, they wont be any better here , but its all subjective .
Drinking Game: Take a shot each time you hear ISO Acoustics.
How many times was it said?
@@therealshanelee Maybe he's to wasted to reply right now 🤷♂
@@northeastcorals😂
A well-known company that sold 1/3 of all speakers in the world 40 years ago placed 4 pieces of felt on its top model as insulation from the floor.
Comment?
They don't know what surface you will be placing the speakers on
can't wait until you start reviewing cables 😆
They have. Several times. Including measurements
I remeber a video where he said some expensive speaker cables changed the way speakers imaged. What BS.
@@TokeBoisen I think he was specifically referring to Shane, it was sarcastic. He's pushed the snake oil cable stuff in the past.
@@andrewjackson9417 Shane Lee may have said this on his own channel but it's never something I ever made a claim to here.
@@Audioholics Sorry Gene, I didn't mean to imply that you had if it came across that way.
Simply do a blind test Jean to see if 2 squash balls cut in half is inferior to this product? Will be interesting to see if you do, especially as your affiliated with this product and many people don't like hypocrisy...
The only hypocrisy is made up in your head. Shane is entitled to his own opinions as a reviewer on our channel or his.
That said I'd love to do such a comparison, but that's something to add to a very long laundry list of things I'm currently working on.
@@Audioholics Would have took 2 minutes to put squash balls underneath and measure so 🤔...Shane's opinion on your channel is Your opinion by default...
wow, we are well into snake oil now... blind tests or it didnt happen.
Idiotic. You don't need a blind test to know physically decoupling a speaker from the floor will change its behavior. The question is which way do you prefer. I did the test in a very controlled manner and heard a clear difference as linked up in this video. Shane’s experiences match what I heard in my testing too.
@@Audioholics Nice response... not!
Its not snake oil
@@Audioholicsthe laser vibrometer data shows there is some behavior that has a measureable difference. What it does NOT prove is if that difference is perceptible and furthermore if the perceptible difference is desired. Blind tests are also not required to "know" different speakers sound different, but they sure have helped us learn about how we perceive sound from loudspeakers. Dismissing a method to control for bias in testing an extremely overpriced product is a bad look.
@Timoxi80 as long as you believe it makes a difference, who cares if it's real or not? Just enjoy.
Skipped the step of raising the speakers up as a control/compare.
This product change a 100,000 Dollar speaker into a 1,000,000 Dollar speaker.
But only for Rap music…
There is no small snake oil in these I’m not gonna say it again and they worth money as much money as they pay for them but definitely improve the sound quality definitely without out. So it’s up to you if you want to spend on money but I’m telling you it is different.