LG B8 OLED TV Review (incl. HDR Game Mode vs B7)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- We review the LG B8, an entry-level 2018 OLED TV from the South Korean brand. Topics covered include 3D LUT Autocal, black frame insertion, difference from step-up C8, HDR Game Mode vs 2017's B7 OLED, risk of burn-in, and more.
Our review sample is 65 inches in screen size, model number OLED65B8PLA which is the UK 3-pin-plug version. It may also be sold as the LG OLED65B8 or LG OLED65B8P.
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first time i've seen a HDTVTest video and i'm just so impressed by how fantastic and detailed this review is. thank you so much, fantastic reviewer.
Candle MedPet lucky you, I've seen loads of them and now I can't keep my mouth closed and dribble everywhere I go.
It's a shame this channel doesn't have more subs.
Bud The Cyborg Well Vince puts a lot of work in, really deserves more, but I think he does get loads of subs then loses some of them as folk aren't still looking for a TV after they buy one, and because it is monotonal dialogue with long "adverts" for Crampton and Moore etc.
Tell all of your friends. This is easily the best, no nonsense TV review channel.
Picking up on this, maybe it's just the ceiling within the TV hardware niche?
Just wondering which other AV channel has the most number of subs, so we'll know what to aim for. :-)
That was one of the most comprehensive reviews of anything Ive seen. This fella knows his TV stuff.
This is one of the best technical device reviews I've ever seen. Fantastic work. Wow.
As a 65" LG E7 owner, the vertical banding is a noticeable but minor issue.
I'm still extremely satisfied with my unit. I will only consider an upgrade with the next major tech upgrade...bit rate.
Glad to hear someone tell the truth about burn in on oleds I watch my 2015 model in the bedroom often and no burn in issues also have a 2018 model.
Michael Foster I have the 2016 model and I have burn in that lasts about 5 mins but when the image changes it goes away. Do you have that issue too? Where there's a temporary imprint left over
@@lazyfatferalcatchubby4996 NO I have no burn in at all and I have two oleds tvs , I hate that happens to you.
Lazyfatferalcat Chubby that’s called image retention. burn in is permanent
My friend recently bought a 65" B8 and after about 150 hours of viewing I offered to calibrate it. I was absolutely stunned at how accurate it was out of the box. For SDR, all I had to do was enable ISF Expert and disable "wide" colour gamut by setting it to "auto" and it passed the color checker test patterns with DeltaE of around 1.0 or below! From there, I just adjusted "OLED Light" to a sensible level. Grayscale and gamma charts were basically dead flat and any adjustments would have been completely invisible to the human eye.
Thank you for your great videos. I ended up buying the LG B8 55" It is a fantastic TV for the price.
I also ended up with a B8 55" based on this review, and now, nearly a year later, i must say that i am still immensely satisfied with my purchase! A worthy successor to my old Sony 40" W2000 :)
I got my self the b87 and I’m overjoyed with the quality of this tv. I love your reviews about the Lg Oleds and I thank you for making it easier for me to find a, in my opinion a fantastic TV. Keep up the work.
Bro this is the most detailed and professional Tv reviews I’ve watched
Vincent - you may have one of the most relaxing voices in the world.
Just received my C8. Never seen anything like it, just pure awesomeness! Putting on built in Netflix app with Dolby Vision content looks supreme! You get a little spoiled though, suddenly you want to have DV on everything.. Also really surprised how good it upscales "bad" content. I am no TV reviewer though, but have learnt a good bit from you Vincent, so thank you for that!
I bought it for cheap. Excellent for gaming. Fast response time vs LCD
Price please and country ?
Ashish Sharma Aus. Was $2500 got it on sale for $1700 for 55 inch LG B8 OLED.
Payed 1200$ for the 55 B8.
Vincent, again another fantastic review! I'm learning more every other day thanks to you! Thank-you for also confirming about burn in after so many people complain about it in a hypothetical sense stating that "there's no way they will spend £3k on a tv only for it to be burnt in after 1.5 years..."
For the testing, how about a Raspberry Pi or an Arduino board that can be hooked up with an IR blaster soldered to it? Then simply code it to turn on based on the system clock?
Bought a B8 55” from Richer Sounds today for £970, seems a bargain given what I’ve seen and read, swapped it for a slightly cheaper Sony XF90 which was delivered with a damaged screen, great service from Richer and six year warranty. Perfect for watching Netflix and gaming on my PS4 PRO😆.
bought my B8 today from Best Buy. Floor model without stand but in perfect condition. I paid $846 with 2yr warranty included. I hope I will like it much better than my current Samsung Js8500.
Thanks for the detailed review Vincent. Between you and Rtings, there really are no better TV reviewers on RUclips. Just ordered one of these 65" B8's for £1500 and it's all the more sweeter that you mention the £2800 in the video. £1500 for a 65" OLED seems like excellent value and I couldn't pass it up. Inky black letterbox bars, here I come!!
You can programme the Sky box to record manually, any time on/off, any duration, any channels. If its possible to leave the screen on you can create irregular activity. The recordings show in the Planner only as date, time and duration. Don't know if this of any help for what you need but it's free. There is no charge. Thanks Vincent, for another absorbing and comprehensive review!
You know how to talk for someone who deals with pictures. Always entertaining Master B8 Calibrator.
Could you make a video showing calibration settings for the B7 for gaming?
Please make a comparison video between LGC8 and LGB8
It is said that the panels don't differ between C, B, E, but rather the speakers and bodies do.
@Olympic Bear do they in the 8th gen? In the 7th gen I think they used the same processor in b and c models so I assumed that was the case in the 8th gen as well.
@Olympic Bear get on rtings.com website. They say that c8, e8, g8 and W8 are exactly the same, only the design is different. B8 uses a7 processor instead a9, but it's only a slight, unnoticeable difference. So go for b8 because it is the Cheapest.
Practic c8 are procesorul alpha9 care este mult mai performant , face sa fie televizorul mai rapid si alte mici îmbunătățiri la culoare ,hdr, dymanic range, nu este o diferenta extremă dar este puțin mai performant in general, problema este ca la pretul de vanzare al c8.lui găsești oled mai performante gen sony af8(2000 euro ) si panasonic fz800 2018 ( 1800 euro)
They both too similar to differentiate, however there's a 200nits difference in brightness.
I'd like to know if that 200 nits is appreciable
Funny how oled has banding uniformity issues when displaying dark content, which should be it's forte... And LED LCD (including QLED) has dirty screen effect uniformity issues when displaying bright content...
I really appreciate your knowledge.
Black Friday deal and your review brought me to buy this 55" inch LG B8 over last year's 55" inch LG C7, and it'll replace the Philips 32PFL9604H/12.
Thank you very much! (liked and subscribed of course) :)
My main worry about these TV's is the amount of stuttering or what looks like skipping in long panning shots, also upscaling older content like sdr Netflix. I mainly use my PS4 Pro for gaming and my Xbox one S for 4k media content. Also if anyone has any tips on how to reduce stuttering across any media format in the settings it would be greatly appreciated.
Choices are...
- Sony A8 (I hear its the best)
- Sony 95F (about 1000 NZD cheaper than the rest of these, and i'm not sure if they others are worth the cost accept for OLED)
- Panasonic FZ950 (Was my first choice as the screen looked amazing although upon further review, some videos said it had noticable stutter so i'm aprehensive unless theirs a way to lessen this effect)
- LG C8 (Don't know anything about stuttering)
I live in New Zealand so their aren't as many options i'm afraid.
Dis you try setting the mode to hdr?
Great job! I might purchase one now. Thanks
This guy is my go-to when checking reviews. Very very good review
And when I tell the lg C8 owners on AVForums.com that autocal is broken, I get called a troll. Why a certain calibration 'expert' who apparently supports Norwich City is still using autocal and saying its not broken is beyond me. That forum is full of wankers.
Good video Vincent.
Sadly he only looked at lighting mode. That is super fast (a few min.) The better mode takes hours and hours. Yes, not useful to someone visiting, but for people that own their own equipment, the slow mode is what would be used.
I would have liked to hear, even if not practical for him/his client, his thoughts on auto-cal 3dlut using 5000+ points.
Takes me about 10 minutes to fall asleep watching Vincent's OLED vids at night. Only the Sony ones keep me awake. Crawling dot looking for and counting backlit LED zones is particularly exciting for me.
It would be great to see setting for OLED B8
I am waiting for this to come! Thanks for the review Vincent. Awesome stuff!
I’m rolling a 65X850B bravia and the picture still blows my mind. I normally upgrade TVs every 4 years but I am scared that early tech of oleds will disappoint me with issues such as poor motion flow and image burn. It’s a big decision. I watch movies and game in 4K and my current bravia is flawless...
Sam Jones Sony are only on their second model now. Image burn is such an issue that if a section of the screen has had the same still image for too long, the Bravia will refresh the screen with scrolling white and grey lines. Not ideal for online gaming.
All you need to do Vincent is to pick your power saving settings on all of your inputs and the tv. On a Panasonic, switch on viera link and power off link, then turn on no signal power off. Set your tv's power save setting for a period longer than any of your connected devices, this means that no matter what power saving settings you have on your freeview box and console, if anythjng happens they will all turn off with the tv. This will give you some leeway as well, you can set your console power save settings to slightly more time than you play, and as a test just go on to RUclips or mixer and just let random videos play, the console will shut off if you're not there, and because you have set no signal power off, on, if you are not there the tv will turn off after 10 mins regardless of power save settings if no signal is detected. When you're ready to watch tv on your freeview box, you don't even need to set the power save settings on it if it's the last thing you do, the tv will shut it off when it goes, even if you fall asleep, like in real world viewing. Good video, and the right way to do an oled burn in test, comparative to real world usage.
The video processor should have a user control for "duty cycle" for the BFI setting, eg. a slider which lets the user dial in how many milliseconds of black frame they want per frame duration.
yeah you shouldn't be able to see a strobe effect while using big, right? cause on my c8 I can
I like the review and subtle humour
Did you ever fix your burn-in test issues? If not grab an arduino and some IR LED's (both wide and narrow), and an infrared receiver (e.g. TSOP38238). Even if you can't program it shouldn't be hard for you to write a program to turn the devices on and off. You can use the receiver to get the correct infrared codes for any remote function you like, build up a database of them, then just write a simple program that waits X seconds, then sends the code, in a loop.
It may sound daunting, but it's *much* easier than it sounds.
Still have b7 still love it since i bought it
You could just get a smart plug and plug any device into it scheduling on off timers for your test purpose. Great review as always Vincent.
I got it 1 month ago... AMAZING
A suggestion for the burn in test controller you could use a arduino with a clock and infrared module to control the tv with some data logging, pretty simple project that is highly customizable
Good video Vincent as always. This tv seems great but pricing is not consistent nor sustainable versus c8 and c7. Correct me if I am wrong but this is an improved c7 and should be priced accordingly. I can see this tv being a superb bargain Black Friday or q1 2019 potentially hitting £1k for 55 and £1800 for 65.
Just bought my 55 B8 for £1050 in April19 👍
Regarding the burn-in test device: I'd use an Harmony Hub and IFTT!
You can turn an activity on and off based on time & date and use whatever source you'd like
Do black bars top and bottom like the ones found in movies risk image burn?
2018 LG oled B8 User manual states the following.
Recommended Measures for
Preventing Image Retention-
• Adjust the settings as below when watching a video constantly
showing black bars on the left, right, top or bottom, in order to
remove the black bars.
- Picture Aspect Ratio Settings Aspect Ratio
Vertical Zoom or All-Direction Zoom
Damn dude I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to TVs but you make me look like a chump lol. Highly informative video great job👍
Turn sources on/off with a harmony remote. Then set a schedule with google or IFTT to trigger the harmony actions.
Well I don't really have a clue what you are taking about but I still really enjoy your videos. Thanks
Wow, exceptional review. Thank you.
Love your videos Vincent. I always feel challenged and like I’m learning something new. 👍🏻
You can use a Logitech Hamony Hub combined with home automation tools like Home Assistant. You could script switching inputs/channels (sending IR commands from the hub) and turning stuff on and off. The Logitech Hub has a huge library of IR commands built in.
I have this TV 5 years now
Another great review vincent and as always detail no one else talks about. Thanks
Wow! Great review! I learned so much, I know a lot about TV's, but this video made me much more knowledgeable! Thanks!
As always, a very high quality review from Vincent. I plan on buying the B8 but I am a bit concerned about using it with the nvidia shield. Is there any advantage/disadvantage with this combo? Wish hdtvtest would test the shield from the motion processing point of view, etc. Thanks
For output just use any SBC as the source device which can be programmed to turn itself on or off, most HDMI spliters can also be controlled with a small hack with a raspberry pi or an arduino, same goes for any TV with a rs232 connection those who do not have it can be controlled by emulating the IR remove via a Rasberry PI/arduino IR module, BT/Wifi remotes are even more easily emulated.
For burn-in testing: raspberry PI + their raspian OS + full-screen chrome browser + cronjob cec-client command to power on/off over HDMI = ~$USD 60 I use this setup for a family information display. Powers off during the night.
For an automatic source you could use an outlet timer (i.e. the same kind used to turn on lamps when you're on vacation) and a Raspberry Pi. The static desktop of the Pi alone would be a test, but you could also write a simple bash script to run on startup and play some downloaded video file (like a BBC or NatGeo recording)
Just bought one for $1200 from Newegg. Going to replace my x900e, which i plan to use as a pc monitor.
Love your videos. Question: have you done an episode about hdmi cables? New format v old format / ARC /sound v video. Etc. Seems to me better Audioquest cables make a real difference. You are probably only RUclipsr to be trusted!
Scott Wright Doing a video on cables is a time consuming thing. Yes better quality cables make a difference (not in the way zealots think, or those that debate them). A great cable will clean your image, the same as a power conditioner (The latter being more effective). As with anything to do with sight and sound, difference of that type will only be noticeable if you've spent enough time and become visually and audibly accustomed to the set up you have, and then change it. He'd have to spend a good bit of time with each cable, and maybe different tv's and equipment. It would be interesting, and a video I'd watch, but it would be time consuming.
Now that prices have come down considerably, which is better for general TV use (i.e. gaming & Netflix!): Sony XF9005 or LG B8? Can a a good, mature LCD with good processor compete with an (entry-level?) OLED?
Very clean & crip review about B8 , thank you Vincent
Awesome review! A lot of this information is over my head, but you've definitely demonstrated your authority over this subject. How are you able to get those pictures with frames streaming on the screen?
You can try the Power settings on the TV and Source Devices, most of them have auto power save shutoff features.
New sub...
Will definitely be checking out your channel for tips, knowledge and advice when buying my next tv... thanks and keep up the good work! 👍🏾
Hi Vincent, I love your reviews! Coming from Sony 55XE85 what do you recommend the 55B8SLC or the Sony 55XF9005 ? I really like Sony's upscalling and I'm afraid I would have that with an LG. And for HDR, which one is better suited ?
EVERY tv has a energy saving timer...on my philips i can start with 30 minutes...then 60,90,120 and so on...if i dont push a button within 30 minutes, the tv will go off. strange question
In past I had plasma TV, where burns were visible too. Then I had LED TV - no burn... but it was the only advantage... while the picture (naturalness) was realy poor with respect to old plasma. Now I am going back... to Oled. For "my eye taste" the best I can do.
Let Samsung makes big promo "no burn"... the only thing they can argue with... and it is tooooo little to me with respect to my experience.
By the way - thank you very much for erudite and proffesional video.
@HDTVTest / Vincent
I'm not sure this would work for your use case completely, but there are these sort of options for the wifi controlled power plugs that companies like amazon offer. You can schedule on and off times which would at least power and unpower the device, but for something like a console you would still be stuck turning it on... I Dont think there's a way you can do that without MANUALLY remotely launching it through something like the phone or pc apps for the respective devices.
Surely someone local can help you out with a basic RTI/Control4 processor to run a simple scene turning on and off two devices. A low-cost XP3 would do the trick
Use an 8 settings auto on and off timer power adapter then connect it with your bluray player to play vids automatically.
My question is... what kind of shirt is that? Seriously, I'd cop that in a heartbeat.
Great review. Really enjoyed it and I'm giving this TB a close look. Thanks for the level of information in here.
I got my B8 for $1999 pretty freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s 1k on Newegg rn😭
Howdy sir - would you mind sharing the software you use to display the digitized art frames (the frames specifically)? I think it's absolutely wonderful and would be something nice to have in my home. It would be most appreciated!!
Daves Archives its frim LG called Oled Gallery. You can also use your own photos.
thanks a million for this comprehensive review, well done.
What's your verdict on B8 vs C8 Bro?
Is the extra £200 worth it? RTings says it's not.
Is the extra 200 nits really a worthy uptick?
Lookin for an answer to this as well. The B8's currently £1299 and the C8's £1699. I prefer the B8 stand so i'm hoping the difference between the 2 isn't too large so I can go for the B8, i'll be using it for gaming only
Asking the real questions here. And still nobody has a satisfying answer 😢
Thomas Mustermann processor is the big difference (a7)
There obviously is a difference due to a better processor, but consider that the B8 is still an OLED TV that came out this year, so it is amazing by itself and I'd go for that one, considering the stand and the price. Who cares about that difference.
Geometry Dash Iuppiter
To me the C8 stand is too big for such a thin tv. Matter of balance
so the big elephant in the room is ....why won't LG change the tone mapping on the b7/c7? we see that not only LG fixed it for the 2018 sets AND that the 2018 sets track the EOTA curve more accurately. There are petitions and many angry customers and LG keeps ignoring us.
Simply because that is a different model and they are encouraging you to upgrade... aka they are basstards
From a business perspective it makes sense. I have no idea on this, though it could also be due to when they acquired this technology, which even sony is now using...
You could try a cheap android media box that supports remote switching when you're not at home and play back videos on loop simulating real world usage (a movie, couple hours of news and sports, a few hours of gaming recorded footage).
The more expensive and flexible way is to just use a HTPC, so I'm not sure if you want to go down that route.
Saw this TV in the store the other day and this framed picture display blew me away I had to get right up to the screen to see it wasn't an actual bezel on the TV lol
It sounds like Black Frame Insertion is just being used way too aggressively.
If you keep the flicker down to 4 milliseconds it should be fine, regardless of framerate.
Yes, I know that means you're not reducing motion blur "as much" but it's also still an improvement (separated frames instead of a continuous stream of colour).
Thank you for such a great technical review. One question that I have is the picture slideshow that you were showing on the TV. What are you using to generate that? Is it a TV channel or something from a computer? It really makes the TV look like a piece of art!
Thank you for this review.
Vincent, why isn't LG changing the way they approach to tone mapping on the 2017 models? Makes no sense seeing as they're doing it on their 2018 sets. I'm not talking about dyn tone mapping (which is incumbent on the a9 processor). Are they just trying to get 2017 owners to buy 2018 tvs? It makes no sense.
"Hardware limitations" supposedly
unless there is something unique with game mode (possibly because of games dynamism) then there's no excuse seeing as the 2017 oleds already have dyn. tone mapping in their other picture modes.
Your work is always amazing. Will you do a Vizio P Quantum? Its getting remarkable reviews in comparison to the Q9FN for picture quality.
Great review as always. I am buying another OLED this year. I have the original LGEA9800 (still running strong btw other than a couple of unresponsive sub pixels) I want to get into HDR and 4k. Is the panel and chip set of all 2018 OLED models the same for this year? I want the best picture I don't care about speakers etc...
Fantastic review, cheers Vincent.
For your burn in test, I could easily modify a blue ray player for you using a raspberry pi. Or you could just use a PC.
Not a fully formed idea but perhaps worth looking at a programmed PI Computer? Or one of those Intel sticks on a HDMI that will allow you to also run other tests etc??
I play red dead redemption 2 in game mode because it gives the lowest input lag. But, while playing, I switched to the 'vivid' hdr picture mode, and it looks 100 times better and so real. clearer image and and really crisp. Is there a way to play with this level of detail while maintaining a low input lag? because game mode picture quality just doesn't come close to how good the vivid setting looks
thanks for the great quality video
Great review with helpful information!
Hey Vincent!
How often should you do the pixel refresher on the LG c8??
Rtings done a test that automatically switches on/off I don’t know what it’s called though but perhaps you can ask them. Just google oled screen burn test rtings.
I respect you views highly. Live in the US so, I need information on models which can be purchased here. I am a fan of Panasonic products but alas, they pulled out their sales in the US. Because, using the LG OLED displays (same as Sony and Vizio I think) I feel they excell in their digital electronics circuitry design. What do you feel would be your model choice for a 70 - 77 inch size?
Great video. I'm looking to buy this model and your video was very helpful and informative. The question than I have is regarding of how many life time this TV and OLED panel coul have?. Do you have any data on this?.
Thanks
You could use Kodi scripts to automate playback of footage at various times, use game footage, TV footage etc to simulate general usage. Any chance Vincent LG will change their tone mapping on the 2017 models to match this B8 minus the dynamic tone mapping of course, if you've got the ear at anyone at LG please ask them.
Im surprised no one is talking about the screen coating. I just saw the 55" Panasonic 2018 model and it was extremely much better looking than any last year OLED tv. Reason? Because of non-agressive anti-reflective filter that dont ruin picture quality. It has been long known that matte coating ruin PQ, making the picture dirty and colors less vibrant. I have used only glossy monitors for years now and it has always been a pain since there is almost no market for glossy PC monitors. I just cant handle the dirty picture quality of a matte coating, even semi-gloss looks dirty to me.
Could you do a review on the LG SK9500?
not worth his time, its a shit tv
@@Eldrad235 you have tested it then?
@@erbalumkan369 no need to test, it's a turd.
Hi Vincent, love your channel and reviews. Can you add a review to LG 65SK9500PLA? It's sounds like a nice alternative to VA and OLED panels. I especially would like to know how it handles 720P and non HD content (all the kids channels are non HD). Keep on the good work...
Hi Vincent , your knowledge is outstanding. I am considering buying a C8 or B8 is there a real world benefit .
Good evening, I am thinking to buy LG OLED B8
I'm going to have some problem with Burn In in future?
Advise me this TV or better a LG Super UHD Nano Cell TV because of burn in?
thank you
Think I will avoid oled re burn in and no warranty cover for it as I’m a massive gamer gaming for hours on end sometimes. Would rather buy the best led LG for example the LG sk9000.
Was looking forward to displaying wide-color-gamut photos on my new LG B8 55", but when viewed on the TV they look much duller than on my calibrated WCG PC monitor.
Basic workflow:
1) convert photos from RAW using Lightroom
2) export the photos from Lightroom as JPEGs, using the DCI-P3 color space that the B8 should be able to cover
3) transfer the photos to the TV via a thumb drive
4) use the built-in photos app to display them
I guess that the built-in photos app just ignores the DCI-P3 profile and assumes sRGB, resulting in the muted colors.
Question: Do you see a way of showing the images in a wide-color-gamut on the B8 without hooking up a computer?
Thanks!
Vincent, please let us know how this LG B8 compares to Philips OLEDs 9002 and 803. Which one would you choose? Ambilight is tempting...