The Pros & Cons of Living In Stockholm
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Having lived in Stockholm for over a year now, I get a lot of questions about what it's like to live there. In this video I discuss some of the things I like and dislike about living in the Swedish capital.
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I'm manifesting getting a job at Spotify, so I'm watching as many videos about Stockholm/Sweden as I can, and your channel is a godsend
Did it work? Are you in stockholm now?
@@yasz6031 wondering the same thing i hope they got the job!
@@landsproduction6702 seriously! spotify's an epic place to work
At Midsummer in Sweden, the sun pretty much starts rising right after sunset.
The sun is like "what's this horizon thing? I don't like it".
You can get a mansion elsewhere in Sweden for the price of an Östermalm apartment!
😮, ostermalm is expensive
isnt it kinda awkward that sweden has a higher english litteracy than the UK and America xd
@C J oh no, we have a higher litteracy than ur native speakers too.
Jesper Lian ägd
@C J and it's you're, lol
@C J well since you're spell checking, I couldn't care less to be honest :)
@C J it's, isn't, that's and you're. Just a few examples of your spelling :)
Guess what they do at night when there is no public transportation available? They do maintenance work on the tracks. :-)
I don't think so. In the winter the trains are always late..... always. You would think that a country that has harsh winters every year would be prepared. But Sweden is not prepared it seems like the snow in Stockholm comes as a surprise. If I had to trust public transportation to go to work I would probably have to start 1 or 2 hours earlier every morning.
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@@zplattt9358 Actually they do. The delays have to do with the cold weather. Snow blocking the tracks. Slippery rails. Or rails that just simple warp like it can do when it is to hot or to cold. The subway is rarely late even in winter it is the commuter trains that are late.
Actually public transportation is available around the clock in stockholm theres the nightbus that goes all around. We also have 24-7 open pharmacy
@@zplattt9358 if public transportation is too late you have insurance/guaranteed from SL and SJ and if you take a cab instead you can have the cost covered.
I was laughed at because I said we lived in a big city in Sweden with 100,000 inhabitants. the couple lived in atlanta
Buying is still an option. But 1.8 Million SEK for 30 sqm is crazy! You missed the biggest pro: the archipelago! What a dream of islands directly accessible from the city center (Strömkajen)
Bor i England och det här är det som jag länktar till mest! Finns nästan inget liknande i värden och jag vill flytta till Sverige såååå mycket
Du lär väl knappast hitta en etta på 30 kvm för 1.8 m I centrala Stockholm.
You can't even get an apartment that cheap in Gothenburg in any respectable area.
Mad values! I got a 100 sqm + basement for less than that in the countryside
Thats exactly what is drawing me to Stockholm. My wife can have her city life and I can take my boat to the archipelago whenever I want... can't wait 🤗
Visiting Stockholm in June. Cannot wait 😊
You chose a pretty good time of the year to visit. But remember it will probably rain at some point... just so you know. (Especially on midsummer eve... it always rains on midsummer eve...)
Eva Wettergren Thanks 😊
I'm from the future..sorry for you not being able to travel due to the pandemic😔
hey stefan, i would recommend u to watch kiki's delivery service, the film has got inspiration by stockholm. the film is literally in stockholm. its an anime from the late 80s
I love Hayao Miyazaki!!! I didn't know it was inspired by Stockholm, now when I watch "Kiki" I'll see it in a different light. Thanks!!
@@PaulaTheLittleOne just google it ) its supposed to be stockholm. very very good film
@@PaulaTheLittleOne And Visby :)
kiki's delivery service is the reason i'm watching this video :)
The advantage of a city of Norrköping size is that you can get where you want by bike. You don't do that in a million cities.
For me, it takes 1 hour to get to the center of Stockholm and I don't even live in the Stockholm area.
Can you PLEASE make a video about your experience/journey finding and renting a place in Stockholm? I'm moving there soon and freaking out
If you havent found a place yet you always have the possibility to have a students apartment as long as you attend or pass classes the semester. Those apartments are cheap central and available for all students.
Stefan, Everybody says the fish is better in Göteborg
Jacob Reeve that may be true, I didn’t have any sea food the one time I visited there
Stefan Thyron 😂 jag tycker inte om fisk
@@StefanThyron this is true. All the best fish is in Göteborg
if you want good fish then you go to Norway ;) swedish fish is disgusting
I remember being in Stockholm until midnight (that’s when my train left for Kiruna in the northern tip of the country, where there was midnight sun) and it was ONLY then that the sun dipped below the horizon, but it was _still_ only a dark blue outside. Sweden is a fucking amazing place.
Im from usa live in stockholm for 9 years now. love it. The weather isnt as cold as NY and we dont get the snow.
There are busses 24/7 :)
Thank you for this !!!
Tristian Mahese- Mosley my pleasure as always 😇
One thing I’ll add based on my experience is the Card or cash payment method. It was so difficult to find a shop, clubs, restaurant that accept cash. There are YES but you need to find them or better go to press or 7/11. I don’t use my Debit card when I travel because there’s tendency from where I live that my bank acct be on-hold if multiple usage abroad is made. I don’t have credit card too. I still love Stockholm though I miss Lidingö
I live in Sweden and I have not used cash for about two years now. There is no need for it for most people. But as you say, there are drawbacks to the cashless system that we're adopting in Sweden.
You should experience the summer on the Swedish west-cost! It´s amazing!
*Your first video made me your fan. Thanks for sharing with us. Lovely.* ❤❤
Interesting how size is different from U.S. to Sweden to Iceland where I call it home. Iceland has a population of roughly Malmö. The capital region of Iceland as what is developing into a newly defined metro area has 290,000 people, and the rest of the country only 85,000 more! 🙂
My first Swedish gf lived in Täby when she got married (not to me, obviously, and sadly).
You should do a tour-video of each island of Stockholm! A series on Södermalm, Norrmalm, Gamla stan, etc!
Kommer du få rösta i valet 2022?
Anyone else stalk this channel for new videos?
Rath hopefully I’ll post more frequently again soon so the stalking won’t need to be quite as frequent 😉
Hahaha ”I have a feeling that some people from Gothenburg might have a thing or two to say about this video”, ooohh yesss!😂 fun video though!! - girl from Gothenburg
You Gothenburgers pop up a lot on here 🙈
every bit you said is really true, i wish i could grab that topic before and made video about it , kidding. Love it keep up
Stockholm is very beautiful.
moving to stockholm in two weeks to work for a Swedish company and one thing that I cannot find information anywhere is, those local small 24hours convenience stores, do they have it in stockholm? those are lifesavers
The closes thing you will to a 24/7 is 7 eleven, not all of them but some of them are open 24/7. We dont have the 24/7 stores here. Supermarkets are open at latest until 22, some rare are open to 23. But thats it
Mickey and the 24/7 7elevens are almost exclusively in the city centre
Because of the very high labor costs (2-3 times the normal wages) associated with being open at night in combination with a low amount of customers at those times makes 24 hour stores very uncommon in Sweden.
There are petrol stations that are 24/7, also some 7/11 etc, most larger food stores are open 7-23.
Nice video man! Good content. I met you at the subway from t-centralen to stadion with your friend. Look forward to next video
Stumbled upon your video blog while looking for swedish language content. Your assessment on cultural differences is spot on lol. I'm also american and been to stockholm a few times. I'll be out there in september i hope, once this virus thing calms down. peace!
I live in Vt and I’m studying abroad in Stockholm this fall from August till December! I’m very excited! Thank you for all your videos!
Vermont? What classes let you study abroad?
Yeah I live and go to a university here. I am studying women,gender and sexuality while in Stockholm this fall.
@@brihappy99 Enjoy^^
Thanks!
I want to move to a big city where it lives 30 000 People. That is big for me😂😂
Portland in 2020, it easily takes me 1.5 hrs to get from one side to the other on peak times. and this is in a private vehicle.
With that said he failed to mention city density. Portland's downtown is really only 2.2 sq.mi., the rest is just suburban sprawl. When measuring the core city of Stockholm I got 14-ish sq.mi. where the majority of the buildings were 5 stories tall. This did not include Stockholms suburbs. Even on a busy day in Portland , let alone any other city in the US except NYC, I bet Portland is no where near as busy as Stockholm's core.
Well, I lived and worked in megacities like Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai, New Delhi, Istanbul plus medium sized like Johannesburg, Melbourne, Dubai and I kind of like it when it's not too complicated to get around . If you can afford staying in the city centre in Shanghai you are fine but to commute from a distant suburb is another story.
I really wanna visit Stockholm or at least Sweden someday soon. Maybe sometime next year.
interesting note about population size in cities. it tends the have a pattern with the biggest city having x population 2nd city having x/2 population, third biggest having x/3 population and so on. this is roughly true for sweden (stockholm 2,3 m, gothenburg 1 m, malmö .7m) and roughly true for the us (nyc 8.3m, la 4m, chicago 2.7m). so although stockholm is slightly higher than that rule it's basically pretty normal. and an amazing fact that may get you thinking.
Never been a fan of larger cities. Perfectly content in mine with a little under 10,000 inhabitants.
I liked being in Sweden. The people are nice but not overly friendly and tend to keep to themselves. My American neighbors are always snooping into my business.
Stockholm sounds a lot like Amsterdam, Netherlands where I live :-)) except for the longlasting dark winterdays :0 I think I would find that hard as well
Gothenburg has more or less no winter - it is hell there in february... Cold, rainy, humid and windy but no snow...
Trueeeeeeee
Lappland is actully the only landscape in the country with the midnight sun from what i learned in school
Svenska: Lappland är det ända landskap med midnattssolen från vad jag lärde mig i skolan
Jag är från Sverige och är glad att du har mer pros än cons! Så glad
Awesome !!!! Welcome to Stockholm
What do you think it would be like for American students to come into Swedish schools in elementary and middle school? Is it feasible if they don't speak Swedish yet? We are planning a move to Gothenburg and while there are some English speaking schools, the lists are long and I'd almost rather they just immerse. I just hope, socially and academically, it's not to rough. Thoughts from your perspective as an American that is a teacher in Sweden?
Hello Stefan , nice 👍 video , can you please tell the duration of summer and winter season there . Is it true that winters are longest and summers only for 4 months ? , thanks
Okej men nu hoppar vi till det viktigaste.... du kommer väl rösta på Dotter i Melodifestivalen? ;)
"Really nice summer" You're lucky dude, past few years have been way warmer than usual, guess Sweden is one of those places benefiting from climate change
Steve Glans in the summer yes, but winter is more boring. It has snowed for two days this year and that was in the end of February, the snow is actually quite beautiful in the winter but that is pretty much gone now
Eh no, that summer two years ago was a nightmare.
The best place in Stockholm is the train to Gothenburg :)
I am retired and looking at suburbs of Stockholm - not too far out - can you suggest some that are connected by rail or subway?
Solna, sollentuna 😊 don't tell someone
hur tycker du att sverige är hittills? (din svenska är otroligt bra! :D)
Stefan, you have Ullna Backen i Täby where you can ski and other places in Täy for cross country skiing. Ps. I'm coming home for a visit in April to Täby.
My son and daughter in law just outside Stockholm
Oh shit, you live like 500 meters from where I lived for 14 years. A really nice area.
Edit: and then you dropped the second arrow like 500 meters from where I live now. Stop creeping me out.
You live in Stockholm’s city center? Did you have to go on the waitlist? Can you explain that to me? And can you bypass the waitlist if you have enough money?
@@chairmanofrussia
The basic idea is that there is a cap of how much you are allowed to charge for rentals, which differ depending on the type of rental and if you are a private induvidual or business (basically renting out more than 3 rentals). Hyresrätt is the most common and cheap one.
In Stockholm most landlords only chose to rent out hyresrätter via Bostadsförmedlingen. That is where you queue up if you want to rent an apartment. Then when applying for a specific rental the person with the longest queue time gets the apartment.
Landlords don't have to go through Bostadsförmedlingen, although it's basically impossible to get those rentals without contacts (I was lucky enough for my dad to know someone). There are illegal black market deals where you buy a contract, although it's becoming less and less common. You'd be expected to pay around 10 000 kr/M^2 in central Stockholm.
The other option is to rent a bostadsrätt privately or buy it, although they can get a lot more expensive. E.g. my apartments rent would be about twice as much.
The reason for the price difference is because the price for hyresrätter is based on standard, quality and service, but not on location. So an apartment in central Stockholm could cost just as much as a similar one in the middle of nowhere. While for a bostadsrätt you set the price based on capital and operating cost, and due to the high market prices in Stockholm the capital cost drives the rent up a lot.
To sum it up if you move to Stockholm; your best bet is to rent privately or buy an apartment. When you have a Swedish social security number (or you are a student) you can queue up in bostadskön, and within a year you can expect to find a hyresrätt outside of Stockholm. It can take over 20 years to get a good one in central Stockholm though.
This was a lot longer than I expected, even though I skipped over so much.
@@5illyMe No need to apologize for making it long. In fact, I prefer to hear every detail. I’m an EU citizen living in the United States and I really want to leave this insane, psycho country. If you have anymore to tell me, please do. I could talk about this all day.
So if I want to have an apartment in the center (Kungsholmen, Vasastan, Normalm, Gamla Stan, Södermalm etc.) in a reasonable timeframe (1-5 years), I basically have save up for a down payment and a mortgage? (I hope Swedish banks are willing to lend to foreigners like me.) If I have the money, can I then move to one of those neighborhoods without having to wait a quarter of a lifetime? Or do I still have to waitlist?
I also heard somewhere that most rental contracts in Sweden aren’t always renewable, is that true when renting privately? Because I don’t see the point in paying more if I have to move out in 9 months. If not, can you tell me a little bit more about böstadsratt?
And my god, the 200,000 people living in central Stockholm are so lucky, especially the ones living in Östermalm. I envy you so much, living in Södermalm.
And again, thank you for your time. You’re clearing up so much already.
@@chairmanofrussia Yeah, if you want an apartment in a reasonable time frame you'll have to either buy one (around 100 000 kr/m^2 in central Stockholm, with a down payment of 15%) or rent a bostadsrätt. There is no wait list for that.
For hyresrätter there is no time limit on the contract. If you rent a bostadsrätt it's up to the contract you sign though. You either rent "until further notice", which can be terminated by the landlord after 3 months for any reason (can be longer if stated in the contract but not shorter), or you rent for a specified period after which the contract need to be renewed.
EU citizen living in the US with the name chairmanofrussia. Talk about confusing!
@@5illyMe Haha yeah, my username was a little joke. I’ve had this username for over 10 years now, so I was just a kid when I made it.
Really, I want to thank you for all the info you gave me. 🙏🏽 I’ll have to start budgeting now.
I have a hard time pointing out the pros at this point and been living here for 57 years. It´s a city, i was born here, that´s the pros for me.
Yeah, and i don´t want to advertise for the city in these times for some unmentioned reasons. No offense to Stefan, not relevant with my reason.
I move in Goteborg soon. Any thought from locals about the differents with Stockholm ? (which I already know a little)
Goa Gubbar i Göteborg enna
@@eliteranger1001 Tror inte han talar Svenska....
Everyone moves slower in Gothenburg. It is more chill.
I think Gothenburg is the best. Second largest city but not expensive like Stockholm, easy and reliable transportation, friendly people, weather is good and much more +
Yousif Babiker 👍🏼 This was Stockholm 20 years ago but now 🤷🏻♂️
hey stefan are u back in Sweden yet?
Black Army I am! Still posting some vids from when I recorded in the US though 💁🏼♂️
@@StefanThyron Nice would be cool with a meetup some where at some point
Hi Stefan how are you?I m moving to Stockholm at August.Is it hard to find a staff job?Does this job center helps or not? Thanks u
Thanks for the video! Does anyone know what it's like to live in Lund?
Michael Purser It is a small, university focused city.
Michael Purser I have some friends who study there... the student life looks very fun! 🙌🏼
@ Near Malmö and Malmö is near Copehagen, bigger than Stockholm
@@rolar321 Noone cares. Noone in their right mind wants to be close to Malmö.
@@Guildforsucks Why does no one want to be close to Malmö? I'm curious because I've heard nice things about that city and would like to visit.
Hahahahhaha
Stefan: let me know what you guys think about stockholm
Me from gothenburg and northern sweden: alright lets go..
Stefan: I have a feeling people from gothenburg might have a thing or two to say.
Me: well.... you got me 😂😂😂
Hello! I would like to know how easy is for someone who has basic level in English language to live in Stockholm permanently. Is it possible?
Hej Stefan! Hur mår du?
*_1_* The happiest, *_least_* corrupt countries with the *_highest_* standard of living in the world are the Scandinavian countries-Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. They are socialist countries and most of their citizens are atheist, agnostic, or skeptic and many of them speak English.
*_2_* Copenhagen, Helsinki, Reykjavik, Oslo, and Stockholm are expensive cities to live in but they are gorgeous-no garbage on the streets; no tagging of public or private properties; no homeless people like in NYC, LA, Seattle, San Diego, San Jose; very few drug users unlike in Omaha, Phoenix, Mesa, Indianapolis, Minneapolis. (BTW, the most expensive city in the world is Tel Aviv.)
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Sweden dropped like a stone since you read that and whatever your source is for it, trust me, it´s irrelevant in 2023.
Interesting, however, it is mostly descriptive commentary. Thus, it is not very meaningful. Try garnering some hard data - e.g. how much does a 1 bedroom rental cost...etc. That would make it a lot more helpful
Yeah stockholm is pretty big ... it's almost as big as a neighborhood in India lol
Can someone tell is it worthing living in there i mean normaly day in life i'm planing to move there but idk i'm 18 and i'm going to live alone i there👀
Stefan!
I have been watching your interesting postings on RUclips for a while where you make a lot of comparisons between your native US and Sweden, but I find no information about how you ended up in Norrköping, Stockholm and Sweden in the first place?
I would love to know. What is a young American guy like yourself doing here? Swedish girlfriend?
I have a son myself about your age named the same as you, Stefan, but coming from the US you ought to be called Stephen?
Kolla hans tidigare videor så får du veta....
Tyska föräldrar. Hade svensk söt (född asiat) flickvän, de träffades när hon var au-pair
@@annikaerf Hans pappa har tyskt påbrå mamman har Italienskt
how many cases in stockholm right now?
Don't forget that Stockholm has a lot of museums and that many are for free =) (Statliga) kommer inte på ordet på engelska just nu =) haha
Bus system should be running most of the night.
Says he will answer how to find housing...
Proceeds to ignore and dodge the question. Where are websites, housing agencies, student housing website, etc. Etc. Here's a crazy idea, we all know it's difficult to move from abroad but what if you already have it figured out?
Du är jättebra. 👌👌👌👏👏💪💪👍👍
High schools and universities have closed throughout Sweden, and they are preparing to close schools and preschools because of the corona virus
Would you say the cost of living in Stockholm is similar to New York City ?
definitely not i mean it depends where but tbh no sthlm prices are lower in general
Come to Gothenburg and hang out! We could probably diversify your opinion on what a city should be like ^^
I laugh when ever some one says stockholm is big because my home town is about 800 km² with a population of 8-13 million
😂😂
Have you ever been in Kolsva?
Casper K never have!
Stefan Thyron okej it’s kinda close too Stockholm. Just saying
But MTA def has SM BEAT
Where in Stockholm is where all the tech people live ? 😅
Ummm....no? NYC MTA is very effective...I live past bed stuy in Brooklyn, I end up in HARLEM 125 in 40 min.... That's about 2 miles further then what you just showed us... I can go to Boston in 3.2 hours, Philly in 5. Albeit, our metro is nowhere near as reliable....sorry but NYC has stock beat....in every area....out winters are nicer, our summers you can actually SURF without a wet suit....btw I'm from north Germany. NYC ...I love it but HATE the hood people. Btw NYC is the safest city of it's size we're also very clean (since covid is gotten worse I admit )
I can't seem to find a place where to submit questions, so I guess I'll leave this here. I'm planning to visit Sweden for the first time either this year or next year around the Midsummer celebration. I'm currently trying to make a list of places to visit while I'm there, and I was wanting to know if you or anyone else had any recommendations for places to check out? I'm not big on "touristy" places and prefer to have as close to an authentic experience as possible, so any hole in the wall type places would be awesome. Thanks!
Jeptha definitely go check out a fotball game if you are intrested in those type of stuff. Otherwise you can go to ”stadshuset” to check out the view and so on. Don’t go to far on the green subway line😂 (much crime going on there) Good luck!
@@positivyxa thank you for the suggestions. I've always wanted to experience a non-american football/futbol/fotball (so many ways to spell it haha) game in a stadium, so I'll add that to my list. You have any must try restaurants you recommend? Also, aren't most of the crimes gang on gang violence, or is it getting worse?
Jeptha The resturants is really depending on your budget. If you have high budget then a place like ”AG” is very good (steaks). But as you know (being american) the most resturants are brands that you’re used to, TGIF for example. There are som really nice resturants with Sushi and stuff like that, we love that here (even if I know many americans dont). The criminality is not huge maybe but its getting worse, thats for sure. There are places, around were I live, were robbery happends all the time, mostly kids which is scary. I have lots of friends that have been exposed to such.. Anyway if your not in those areas you should be fine👍
Jeptha Well yeah you really should try a football game because the atmosphere is great and special compered with MLS which for us Swedes look kinda plastic (no offense)
@@positivyxa I want to eat authentic Swedish dishes (like reindeer steak), so my budget will be whatever it needs to be. And Sushi is one of my favorite foods :P
Are you saying kids are doing the robberies, or that they're the victims? Either way, that's insane.
No offense taken. I actually agree with that statement. Americans only really show any interest in "soccer" when the national women's team is on their way to winning a championship. I personally have never gotten into it because I couldn't get over the fact that flopping was part of the strategy for most teams. But I heard that they changed the rules to discourage flopping, so I need to set aside the time to give it another chance. I've also been wanting to go see a match in an overseas stadium because I've been told the energy is even crazier than American football stadiums, so sign me up :)
you should make a video about the Swedish subculture ''raggare''
I live in a town of 22 000 people...
Wow jättefin
Your surname is Thyron, is that Swedish?
Malmö also has a thing or two to say about this video ;)
Malmö will set off some handgrenades and demolitions when seeing this video.
@@Guildforsucks It's called entertainment.
@@Hellspooned2 lol
Malmö speaks with fake Danish, we dont understand ;-}
@@HappySwedishPancake And stockholmers sound as if they have a long stick up their butt when speaking.
Stockholm is the best city in Sweden. I used to live the in my youth (your are now). That was the best time s ever! :)
Not really, Gothenburg is better.
Calm down, its not that cold in Stockholm xD
It is if you're from the Pacific Northwest.
Portland doesn’t have 2.5 million people 😂 I think you mean 650 k the whole of Oregon only has 4 million people .
Wow jättebra
Bor också i täby!:)
I love Stockholm❤️
Stockholm sucks
Drakmamma 65 Nope my mom and half of my relatives comes from Gothenburg still I prefer Stockholm. It is so beautiful
I live in Stockholm and think the city is okay but avoid places like Tensta or Norsborg, there is a lot of crime there.
Our size is literally 10 times yours ....our Metro is by far faster....it just is... YOU just didn't know how to use it if you visited, it's the largest Metro is any city in thebWORLD...If you I close NJT , Amtrack, and Metro North... Lol well always be..
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Beautiful
Lifeless
I'm from Gothenburg
Det gör inget.
Anyone else here after trump tweeted some dumb shit?
Östergötland.
One big negative with sweden, is their stupid look at cannabis and drugs in general.
Weeds is drug!
What is that look?
Sweden have comparatively strict laws when it comes to illicit drugs.
Whether that's a good or bad thing is a matter of opinion.
Ooh Stefan...shame on you...forget about the beautiful Gamla Stan ❤️....( Just kidding)😉
Roslagsbanan renoveras hela tiden 😖🥴
Natt bussen
If you're a first time mover to Stockholm (and don't wanna wait those pesky 20 years) what's the advice on finding a place?