'Incel Riddler' was really funny. Having a scary serial killer character amicably thank his twitch chat for their donations was a stroke of comedic genius.
whyd he open his parachute at the only time that would make him eat shit though? That made no sense. Batmans suppose to be smart but that was a braindead move
@@cunstar7190 this was clearly his very first time flying with the suit though. Not only is it his second year as Batman, but you can also clearly see the fear in his face before he jumps. I very much prefer my heroes to be flawed like this instead of the Gary Stu ass batman who can take on anyone because he's giga brained or whatever
Definitely my favorite iteration of Gotham City so far, and the best since the Schumacher era. Say what you want about BF and B&R but his Gotham City was ripped straight from the comics.
Well a large portion of it was filmed in my neck of the woods, Glasgow. I can assure you that it wouldn't be too difficult to create a city that was beyond help.
I think the point of the interrogation scene was to show that under the mask, the Riddler feels powerful and intimidating, but when he’s just himself he’s the complete opposite, desperately trying to seem intimidating but coming off as hilariously pathetic
that makes sense, and maybe could be seen as a twisted mirror of how bruce wayne is just a pathetic and depressed orphan but hides it under the badass persona of batman
The ramp scene was funny, but let’s not forget about Da B-Man literally fucking smashing his face like an idiot with his flying squirrel suit and then getting up “my back” style
I didn't dig the movie but I loved batman having that "Oh shit" moment before jumping and not being graceful. it was both funny and made me care for him
@@hollykruse113 yeah, I hate how most comics try to paint batman as basically super human and logically perfect, as if he was incapable of making mistakes. Seeing him fuck up and get things wrong in this film was refreshing to say the least, felt a lot more human than a lot of iterations just for that
I like the fact that he went back to Batman's detective roots. And The Riddler was basically the Zodiac Killer, the Unabomber and the villain from the movie Seven. I also like the fact that they showed that Bruce Wayne's parents were not the perfect human beings they are oftentimes portrayed as in the other movies.
yeah but the most detective thing he dose is just walk around a bunch as batman go down a red hearing line. The movie relies heavily on a mystery thats not that good
He never actually solves anything as a detective though. He solves the cute little riddles( most of the time) but never puts the whole picture together. There's even a scene where Bruce throws a fit and rearranges shit in his house because he's soooo concentrated on solving the mystery and theeeen? Lol nothing. He gets it wrong again and the riddler gives himself up. Only to be a step behind again when the riddler floods the city. How are people calling this shit a masterpiece. Even his arc is tacked on with a slightly less bad "Martha" scene. Lol batman hears the riddler copy say "vengeance" just like he did so now his arc is complete. Masterfully done. This movie was a mess, I expected more from Matt Reeves. It's like a teenage redditor wrote it. Looked cool though I guess.
@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly I can understand this argument against the film. The only time they made him seem toe to toe with the riddles was when they were on the call together with the bomb strapped to Peter Sarsgaard. It was a good scene though. But people around pretty much solved some of those riddles for him. I gave this movie a 7/10. There's flaws, but it wasn't insulting. I thought Paul Dano played a great Riddler.
@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly I havent seen the movie yet but thats unfortunate. Ive heard people for years now say they wanted a more down to earth batman movie that didnt revolve around some "save the world/city" plot.
One part I can't believe no one's really mentioning (that you even play a clip from in this review) is the bomb blast that was apparently strong enough to send Batman flying 30 feet away but not strong enough to injure him in any way. Even if he was wearing armour, his mask barely covers half his face.
The only excuse I can think of is it’s a directional explosive. Much like the claymore in the movie Nobody. The explosion blew the guys face off but the shockwave and pressure sent da Batman flying backwards. I assume his outfit softened the rest of damage, heat, landing etc….
The reason nobody gives it a glance is because this is a superhero movie. As much as the director wants to go for realism, which for the most part was really good, at the end of the day it's a batman movie. Obviously there's gonna be plot armor and most people are used to that
thats standard hollywood at this point. any explosion that sends someone flying back is guaranteed to result in serious injury. movies have been doing it for years.
Tbh, I appreciated the post-capture interview of the Riddler. At his heart, the character of The Riddler is a dork. I felt they were playing his character far from his inspiration up until then. I liked the contrast of how in the end the Riddler looked and acted far less intimidating than before, it reminds us that you don't need to be strong or intimidating to be a killer, you just need chronic apathy and be willing to act upon it. So the interview scene is meant to downplay the Riddler, to explain his motives and show why he's in arkham rather than prison.
Ditto! I've been reading the comics for as long as I can remember and one of the things in the trailers I really was not thrilled about was reducing The Riddler to a scary serial killer. Like you said, most interpretations make him out to be an narcissistic nerd with serious underlying self-esteem issues so I felt him having a tantrum and losing all composure after batman just calls him a loser no one will remember worked really well. Also it was funny.
Yeah, he's just wounded and a sick guy. Come on, he was crying in his last scene because Batman was saving people. He's a loser. Addum missed the point. He assumes every villain in these movies is meant to be scary and intimidating.
If Batman had thought to investigate where the pictures of the mayor with the Russian girl were taken from the film would've been LEGITIMATELY 1:30h long.
The amount Batman fucks up in this movie was honestly my favorite part. He fucks up so bad that it's a testament to the storytelling that hardly any fan came away pissed at how much he failed. Although it makes me laugh every time someone's says "they finally made batman a detective" like...yeah a bad detective lol
Also the finale could have been averted if he'd looked at the murder weapon and thought "Gee I wonder what this is" rather than just going "yep, that's a murder weapon". I love it, this Batman's mix of competence in some areas and massive incompetence in others was great.
Yeah it's moments like this that made me question how a character like this could live for so long as a vigilante when dumb decisions are made all the time. But I guess he's bulletproof and explosion proof? It's like there's a hidden videogame health bar that refills between scenes.
One thing that made me laugh my ass of during the movie was when Bruce Wayne went to go talk to Falcone, who told him "It was Maroni" who killed his parents, which he immediately believed, proceeded to go and tell Alfred, who told him "It was Falcone," which he then immediately believed. Going from him saying "It was Maroni" to then saying "It was Falcone" in just one scene made it extremely comedic in the way this information was conveyed to the viewer.
@@ggthewhale no, the scene was pretty solid; its just that he went from believing "It was Maroni!" to "It was Falcone!" in the space of a single scene, after one conversation with Falcone then Alfred... pretty unintentionally comedic
That scene works because Falcone is smart enough to read Batman and his loneliness, and plays a father figure to him. You can tell how much Bruce really needs that, and Falcone plays him like a fiddle. A great, unique villain.
@BB-63 i watched the movie in a crowded theater surrounded by several friends who were really into Batman, so I had to stifle my laughter during the funniest parts. One of the parts when I felt like I was gonna have a brain aneurysm from holding back laughter was during the beginning when Batman is walking around Gotham city intimidating criminals and he’s like “I AM VENGEANCE.” Idk how they thought that line was unironically intimidating and not just hilarious, but i sure as hell found it mad comical.
@@gh0st_p3pp3r7 Like everyone I've spoken to thinks that line and the delivery was pretty sick. Obviously very subjective, but I don't know, maybe it's a you thing?
He's not much of a comic book/Batman fan, but he loves film, which is why he'll probably never love a Batman movie other than The Dark Knight(and to a lesser extent Batman Begins). Which is understandable anyways, The Dark Knight is my favorite film, and I'm an enthusiast of both the character of Batman and movies in general.
@@Crow-qm7zw If The Dark Knight was released today, Addum would be lukewarm to it at best. Heath Ledger and the score aside, it's a generic superhero movie, only slightly above average.
@@tiaaaron3278 I mean, if that's your opinion that's fine, but from Adam's praise of TDK I'm pretty sure you're wrong about him. He loves the direction of the movie, like the sound design and restraint(example: not using music during the chase scene), how the action effects throughout the movie were pretty much all practical, a ton of great performances, the entire score being phenomenal as opposed to The Batman(seriously, how many "The Batman theme but only the good part" videos are on RUclips?). There's also the incredible script, otherwise the same people saying the only great thing about it is Ledger's performance ironically wouldn't be praising it so much. And I tend to agree with him. Like a specific example is the Alfred hospital scene in The Batman. I felt nothing. Never mind Serkis' meh performance and the buildup to it, the music was insanely distracting during the scene. Why the hell do we need generic sad music? Let the scene speak for itself if it's supposed to be so emotional and personal between those two characters. There's a reason why The Dark Knight is considered an all time great movie 15 years later. Why there are many famous lines people still quote to this day from multiple characters. Why it's a literal national treasure sitting at the Library of Congress. I don't think The Batman even comes close to that level. What the hell am I gonna be quoting from The Batman in 15 years? But if it's more so your kind of movie that's fine, just a matter of taste.
Paul Dano was a magician in this film. As an actor, you take risks and hope that it works out. Sometimes it doesn't. But I swear, the fact that Paul Dano could make the choices he made in this film regarding his performance as Riddler and NOT come off as an absolute cringey embarrassment is actual magic to me. I don't even know how he did it. I have loved his work ever since There Will Be Blood, all the way to Love and Mercy. I loved this movie as well.
Nice way to put it, i also expected cringe incel vibes but it worked pretty well to me too, even if the ave maria also made me giggle a little in the movie.
He absolutely came of as a cringey embarrassment to me. Lol the way he just starts screaming and moaning. And his weird ass acting with the "joker". It was all horrible. He's at his best when he's standing menacingly like in the beginning
Especially his monologues! I've been fishing everywhere for his speeches. You know how every villain of late acts "cool and composed", Paul stood out from that. It's quickly becoming one of my favourite unorthodox performances in a while.
the fact that no one suffers any visible injuries during this entire film was also very odd and sort of annoying. The worst offense is when penguin rolls his whip 5 times during a high speed chase, the airbags dont go off and his face looks fine
It's known as... suspension of disbelief. In literally every superhero movie they do this, the Dark Knight LITERALLY does the same exact thing you're talking about when the truck Joker drove was flipped
Spoiler: On my second viewing I notice that it made sense why Batman didn’t understand what the carpenter tool was by the beginning of the third act. Like Selina said about rich folk, Bruce was grown as a privileged kid, why would he know what a carpenter tool would do. He never had to do any physical labour or any of the sorts .I love how Batman was actually a detective who makes mistakes instead of a all knowing super genius. 10/10 in my books
I think the same applies to the "el rata alada" riddle. Really loved how even the tiniest details add to Batman's arc of realizing how self-absorbed and unaware of his surroundings he actually is.
The Riddler thinks Batman is like him, someone raised on the street and had a similar upbringing, so it makes sense that he thought Batman would connect the dots on the carpet tool. Something like "Why did he choose a carpet tool as a murder weapon, that seems very intentional, oh it's probably because he used it, his room has a carpet, oh there's probably something under it". I think the same can go for the Spanish riddle. If you grow up on the streets you probably interact with more people of different ethnicities and languages, so Riddler thought Batman would understand.
That's what I thought of first, but he was very quick with the other riddles that it made me think that he did conclude that it was him, but he had to play it dumb just to protect his identity.
I for one loved Paul Dano's take on Riddler. Mostly because the scene of Riddler as Dark Web Vlogger was so funny. I've seen it twice now and that scene just gets funnier.
This movie has some pretty funny moments honestly. Batman decking Gordon than running away and that thumb drive joke were hilarious which is ironic because some critics were complaining how the movie was humourless.
Gotta disagree with your take on Paul Dano's Riddler. His performance is incredibly psychologically realistic as this scarred, deranged, socially-inept recluse. And no, I'm not one of those fans who says "it's bad because it's supposed to be bad." Paul Dano's performance simply isn't bad. It perfectly encapsulates social awkwardness and emotional disturbance
@@cannibalbunnygirl not really, adam does gives 7´s and above. plenty of movies he has given 10´s or has insinuated the highest score possible, The Batman just was an above mediocre movie. thats a 6/10, he enjoyed it. I think the same, 7/10 for me, enjoyable to watch, not as good as nolan´s
I just love that all of Adam's reviews feel so genuine. Even if I sometimes disagree with him, he always expresses himself honestly and he never distorts his feelings so he can conform to a more popular opinion.
@@chuckbatmangaming he's given 10s, they're just more rare, just like his 1s. He watches alot of movies, so 5s and 6s will inevidebly be the score for more decent/mediocre movies.
It's a miracle this film exists. A blockbuster that manages to feel like a 70' - 90's crime thriller. Doesn't sacrifice the integrity of It's story in an attempt to retain audience attention. It's a challenge to modern day film goers and in all 3 of my watches my faith in big budget films and their audience was restored. We want more of this!
I think youre really overselling this movie. It's fantastic but what exactly did it do that's so off from the mainstream? It gave us the best from the comics but you're acting like it's super experimental or something
"Doesn't sacrifice the integrity of It's story in an attempt to retain audience attention" Dude the car chase was nearly completely pointless, and the last 30 mins was straight up brain dead recreation of TDK's final act.
Weirdly enough, it did kind of feel like they presented Riddler as cute in that interrogation scene while presenting Batman as this horror monster. Like the way Dano was sitting all proper with a smirk on his face and then Batman shrouded in dark
Yeah I felt the rest of the scene was fine but when he started signing I lost it. Like I get why its in there but gotdamn theres not a better take? or just him smiling looking creepy?
Even in the trailer before the film came out, I feared wether or not the scene would work or not. Because when Batman punched the glass in the trailer, it was goofy. But now we got this Ave Maria crap
Can I be in both camps? On one hand the little incel losing his shit over his admired hero not liking him enough was pure gold. On the other this nobody incel little shit just buttfucked both the big scary batman and the city and they have no clue how
I saw this movie around 3 days ago in theatres. When it got to the car scene there was a loud alarm that blared. We thought it was just apart of the movie but it kept going on and on. Eventually someone on the PA said that there was an emergency happening. I had to pee at around that moment so I got out to pee and also see what had happened. Turns out the two sides of the theatre had to evacuate because of a fire (the theatre I was in was near the entrance so we didn’t have to leave). Firefighters came in and checked the damage and after fifteen minutes of the alarm blaring it finally stopped. No lie I think if that fire alarm didn’t happen my opinion on the movie would’ve been different because throughout that fifteen minutes the movie was still going on but I could not focus on it at all. *TLDR: Fire broke out at my local theatre and played a really loud alarm for fifteen minutes straight while I was watching The Batman*
On my first watch the movie felt about 5hrs long and the entire 3rd act didn’t connect with me whatsoever but really enjoyed the vibe of the movie. On my second watch the movie felt like 2hrs and the story made total sense to me, felt like I actually knew what’s really happening and not being crippled by my own massive expectations.
I think I need to watch it a second time if this is the case for you because I've only seen it once and was dissapointed with the 3rd act along with being crippled by my own expectations lol
Personally I just went hoping for a good movie and I felt it was way too long. I don't always agree with YMS but I fully agree with him on this movie. I did not like Paul Dano's Riddler at all. Not because of any prior expectation of how the Riddler should be, but because of that really annoying "crazy guy" impression of drawing out your words like you're soooooo unhiiiiiiiinged. It was like watching a Disney Channel villain. But I did like the way it was shot, and the slow detective Batman stuff.
Same here, the first time around I was annoyed by the score being just repetitive and Paul Dano's unmasked Riddler bothered me too. The second time around it all clicked and the whole movie felt more cohesive.
For me the hours flew by. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, even more so because the people in the theatre I was in would cheer everytime something cool happened on screen.
Something I really really loved was that they took a bunch of the Batman villains and turned them into realistic criminals. Instead of the penguin being a cartoonish fat man in a penguin tuxedo who lives in a cave with penguins. He’s not instead just a pink and club owner with penguin as his nickname
Very late, but you do realize that he has a mobster who owns a club in almost every iteration? Like a lot of Batman villains are supposed to have quite a bit of realism to them.
I will never understand the “overused theme” it felt just as appropriate as the how the theme in the Raimi Spider-Man films was used. I find it especially weird that Adum mentions it being overused, despite not feeling the same way toward Taxi Driver, even though the fucking saxophone motif in that movie played a fucking bajillion times.
Chance Kimber is spot on. Also consider that in addition to having a more complex melody that lasts longer than two notes, Taxi Driver is an hour shorter than The Batman, so whereas the Taxi Driver soundtrack may start to feel a little repetitive after two hours, by the third hour of The Batman its score becomes pretty grating.
@@MrMetalforever5 Would we apply that logic to Carpenter's score in Halloween? Cause thats just barebones as hell and its a poweful motif thats memorable and generally loved by most people
@@MrMetalforever5 Except that the film doesn’t play the Batman theme endlessly at all. Just go to the actual soundtrack and take a listen. The score is full of memorable and distinct melodies and motifs.
I thought the moment when the Riddler starts singing and Batman is punching the window angrily would be really really funny if it didn't have the bgm in the back, especially out of context
SPOILER I actually loved Dano's performance in this. I respect your take on it, but I actually felt like he was portraying the character as it was written. He plays a guy who feels robbed by a society that was supposed to take care of him in his particular situation but failed horribly due to greed/power. On the one hand, he is intelligent enough to pull off some grand plots of murder on the most corrupt leaders of said city. On the other, he's still a very awkward little boy who never really grew up and was deprived of acceptance. The shift in tones from the absolute psychopath in control of the situation to the timid boy making videos for his fans and trying his best to impress Batman were very well done, IMO. I loved the interrogation scene because that's where you realize he is living in a delusion of grandeur. You also get to see just how unhinged and unaware he is of the reality of things. I think Dano pulled that off perfectly. Loved the review, though! Glad you enjoyed the film overall!
I remember laughing at EVERY Riddler dialog at the movie, and actually falling from my chairaughing when the riddler started singing ave maria. The movie was great and every moment they try to solve the rata alada mas magnificent
I supposed I'm just used to longer runtimes as most of the films I watch that are shorter than 2.5 hrs are actually animated movies, but I really don't get what all the fuss is about. If people can sit through Endgame and Zack Snyder's Justice League (both significantly inferior films in my opinion), they should be able to sit through this, no? Perhaps it's just the roller-like, incessant tone that starts to feel overwhelming for some?
This film suffers from the same problem that the third PotA did, that is introducing a plot point in the second half of the movie and resolving it 5 minutes later. In PotA, it was the flower scene. Here, it's the problem with Thomas Wayne Falcone: Yo, your father was a murderer Batman: omg no my entire system of beliefs is shuttered Literally the next scene: Alfred: nah dawg, your daddy was a good man, it was an accident, chill
I agree all the Alfred storyline after Arkham should have been cut. The Falcone/ Thomas Wayne plot should be resolved in another movie, some doubt should have been allowed to grow in his mind, which would have been a great character arc... Like in let's say a court of owls or Hugo Strange plotline.
3 hours is proof that narcissism has taken over. Blade Runner is 1 hour and 30 minutes and it feels like it's packed with 2 hours of content, now you need a 3 hours movie for 1 hour of content.
i honestly didn’t mind the score, and i really loved that it was this long, for me everything mattered, like u said super consistent! and i loved that, i agree with the riddles and how batman got his info!! great review dude
There was a lot more to the score than that motif, but the motif was the most important part. I thought the way it was used was very clever, so that a very simple two note thing became emotionally very powerful by the end. (And honestly I thought the other non-motif parts of the score were derivative and not very inspired.)
I loved the movie, but honestly I think the biggest issue was the score for me. It kept pulling me out of the movie, I don't know if it was mixing or the choices.
I LOVED the first 2 acts of the film and the cinematography was beautiful, but good lord the 3rd act really undercut the whole movie for me. It spent 2 hours building up how realist and gritty gotham is, how it's a big city filled with small crime and batman cant be everywhere at once, then with absolutely no setup "I'm GoInG To FlOoD ThE CiTy" what in the actual fuck. Like even logistically who builds a city under sea-level, as soon as that happened I mentally checked out. Also Barry Keoghans joker is god awful and better not return
Disagree on everything after the word "fuck" but yeah, that plot point was stupid in my opinion. Generally for Batman solo movies, the lower and more personal the stakes, the better imo. Think: Year One, The Killing Joke, Under the Red Hood, The Long Halloween, hell, The Dark Knight Returns even. And seriously, while a Riddler following is believable for how wretched the city of Gotham is in this film, how on earth are they gonna pull off a city-wide mass terrorist attack in such a short time with presumably so little resources?
I really love how well you articulate yourself. I often feel the same way and agree with many of your points, but would struggle to put it into words the way you do.
I'm gonna have to hard disagree on Paul Dano's performance: the Riddler is a campy, cringy, goofy villain at his core. It's extremely hard to make The Riddler work in a serious, gritty detective story, and after Nolan's trilogy, I don't think audiences are going to be wont to accept a goofy, campy, silly batman movie for a long time. Batman is gritty and dark now, and that's just how he has to be. I think the choice to make him a livestreamer who's obviously this massive loser with no friends is a perfect direction to go in. The Riddler's ego is a core part of his character: he can't just be smart, he has to have his genius *recognized* and acknowledged by others, so that desperation leading him down a path of straight-up radicalization really worked for me. He is a campy, dumb, goofy loser who is putting on an act like he's Jigsaw, and the fact of it being an act that completely falls apart during the interrogation is integral to making him interesting to me. He's still just a pathetic loser who's trying to seem edgy and cool, he's just completely and utterly failing at it now. Dano's performance was definitely, shall we say, influenced by Ledger's Joker, but I thought it was insanely gripping the way the pendulum swung back and forth between 'haha I'm smarter than you' and 'I am having a mental breakdown because my worldview is so distorted' made me absolutely adore his performance and the role the character served for the narrative.
@@3U9ENE I don't know about that. There are plenty of highly intelligent serial killers that are losers in the real world as well. Ed Kemper is a good example.
I don't know why movies still feel so limited and constricting. The videgame by comparison absolutely knocked EVERYTHING out of the park in terms of batman and his villains. Everyone is as campy or villainous or serious or evil as they should be. Why do movies always hold back like they're afraid to just go all out.
I love that both Alfred and Batman were inches away from high yield explosives and not only lived but had zero burn marks on their face at all. Riddler was using some Fisher Price type dynamite
I hate Matt Reeves. His characters don’t behave like humans with emotions and brains capable of logical thinking. Eg. Mayor gets shot in the stomach, later casually walks in flood water holding Batman’s hand. No biggie. Bruce tells butler he’s basically family. Butler reached out hand and leaves it hanging until Bruce is guilted into touching it. Then bat light is on and Bruce couldn’t be out of there any quicker. Batman accuses cat woman of being a hoe. Cat woman is angry and then decides to tell Batman her deepest secrets in a vulnerable fashion. Then Batman wants to make out. In like 3 minutes. Humans don’t behave like this. Only incels would think this is how women work. Just neg Catwoman sure.
@@averagegoslingenthusiast2033 It is a very solid movie, that gets elevated to greatness if it clicks with you. It is probably a solid 7, maybe 8/10, but for me, it is a masterpiece. But it's definitely not to everyones taste.
I've gotta say, the fight scenes were really well choreographed, and I appreciated that the Batman actually looked like a guy walking around in bat armor rather than some comic book superhero. It was pretty cool
I like the bit about the music tones cuz that was one of the best parts of Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse: both Miles' motif and the Spider-Man motif were just two notes, and yet the way they're used does SUCH a good job showing Miles' growth as a character
Adum. I just want to express how much I like the consistency in your voice when it comes to reviewing movies. Even though I disagree with you almost 100 percent of the time, I still listen to your opinion on a movie because its from your perspective. I believe its important for people to find a reviewer whos personal taste differs from theirs just for the sake of opening up to new ideas.
@@thequestion8697 I wasn't sure, great great choice! I'd trade any Marvel movie for one single standalone movie about him. I've seen you around youtube, have been a silent admirer for a while
@@ruffusgoodman4137 I appreciate the compliments. Thank you very much. I would love to see a Question movie. A noir about a paranoid conspiracy theorist with a really unsettling mask would be really fun. We cpuld even have cameos from other DC detectives. Like Detective Chimp. Oh and ofcourse his romance with Huntress is adorable.
I feel like people didn’t rewatch the dark knight in a while before making the comparisons. I rewatched the entire trilogy before watching this film and I have to say that the dark knight and the Batman sorta felt like two different experiences. The dark knight was more of mob thriller with huge set pieces while the Batman is a very slow burn detective noir film like Chinatown or Se7en. Both films gave me different experiences and I can’t really argue if people thought one was better than the other. They both 10/10 in my book honestly.
"Rat with wings." Batman: Pigeon! Me: YOU HAVE A BAT ON YOUR CHEST GODDAMNIT. Edit: Should probably clarify that I really enjoyed detective batman in this movie, but it was odd that someone who had been portrayed and extremely smart and capable of deciphering the riddles up to that moment to suddenly get it so wrong.
It seems fair to me. Once you get a theory into your head, it can be hard to see even obvious things from a different point of view. Plus, Batman's never had to deal with anything this cryptic before - he's not experienced enough to second guess himself.
I hear for sequel villains they're considering Calendar man, Hugo Strange, Court of Owls and Mr. Freeze. Scarecrow would be awesome because Nolan films as Nostalgia Critic points out is wasted potential
@@heavydfunk Watch his review of Batman Begins, and tell me if he is wrong He isn't. Don't be a contrarian. You can dislike Nostalgia Critic and still agree with the point, Redditor
don't forget that after that GIANT pileup on the freeway caused directly by the penguin they, then just let him go because he gave them some vague information. So he can continue to be the Penguin in the next movie
@@porc1429 They treated him like he was scary. His mask made him terrifying. But his true self is just a mentally ill man who has suffered tremendously. But his frustration with his plan failing to work is exactly how the riddler would act. I did sorta laugh tho but it's not due to cringe but rather the massive difference between Riddler with and without his mask.
I laughed multiple times out loud during this movie, while my friends slept through the whole thing. There are so many shots of the characters walking around in their gimp suits and they are played so straight that you can’t help laughing at how awkward it is.
Thank you for not making me feel like the only one who wanted to laugh really hard in that interrogation scene because it felt so weird how everyone seemed to have a different experience (which is fine but I didn't expect an overwhelming amount of people to be into his performance in that scene)
I agree about the music score. They really do milk that theme to the extent it becomes draining. I didn't mind the long run time, or the tone or anything. But I felt like the movie didn't stick the landing, the Riddler just devolves into "I'm gonna kill everyone", like...why? It barely fits in to the established motive he had prior. And the climax scene was pretty lackluster, just felt like he was having a small fight with some typical grunts and then it ends. I felt very little. So I enjoyed the journey for the most part, but I can't see myself watching the movie again
It's weird, I went into this thinking it wouldn't leave much of an impression because of comic book/Batman exhaustion but I've been thinking about it days after seeing it, even running through the score. The story itself isn't memorable but it really, really, really gets the tone and atmosphere right. I'll argue this is the closest we've gotten to an actual Batman comic adaption since maybe Tim Burton. It's weird, unsettling and creepy. However it shouldn't have been as long as it was even though winding through the hell that is Gotham kept me interested, even if that interest was fading at times. I didn't have a problem with the interrogation scene, it's just revealing the Riddler is a loser despite terrorizing the city and going after the powerful. Despite all his work he's still just a spiteful dork in a looney bin.
I think the Catwoman romance is the greatest flaw. It's unconvincing and unnecessary. It pads out the second half unnecessarily and weakens the ending, arguably the most important part of any movie.
Gotham is basically a representation of New York so it makes sense that their first assumption is a pigeon. Just sayin, not a lot of bats in the city but plenty of flying rat pigeons
@@zachataxxii7126 At first I thought "Oh maybe Thomas Wayne was the rat and that's why Riddler knows who Batman is." But then the film pulled the carpet from under me by revealing Riddler didn't know who Batman was lol
@@MrHEC381991 I really liked that part because you can tell Batman is like "Oh shit, he knows who I am" when Riddler simply says "Bruce Wayne". He even looks visibly relieved when he realizes Riddler's just going on a rant and the only reason he hasn't connected the dots is because he can't comprehend the idea of Bruce actually going out and fighting crime.
I'm really not a fan of how many people in this comment section seem to want Batman to be a perfect Gary Stu (despite this clearly being him just starting out) or don't realize that the Riddler is supposed to be a pathetic incel once he's unmasked. Opinions on how they actually acted are valid, but it seems like way too many people refuse to look at any Batman character beyond surface level "This guy is badass/crazy/whatever" (Just look at all the people immediately comparing Barry Keoghan's Joker to Heath Ledger's despite having 6 minutes of screen time & 5 of that is in a deleted scene).
you are right. but going to the other side of the coin. A lot of people really like to give meaning where none is deserved to defend a piece of media, rationalizing faults, reaching for interpretations that are not deserved and being pedantic asf. This movie had plenty of flaws in tone vs acting, pacing, lack of development in characters, among others. there is no "meaning" in this flaws, there are just flaws. but people will refuse to talk about them and just cope. which its pathetic.
They were garbage, Batman tanked a billion shots because of his armor suit and nobody shooting in his face. If it wasn´t for his suit he would have probably lost to every single enemy.
@@xBox360BENUTZER the fight scene at the end was like a really bad ps2 game with your character having massive amounts of health and the AI being completely dumb
@@KellanGDM The point is batman being bad at unarmed combat and having to rely on his armor? He loses basically every fist fight if it wasn´t for his armor and rather takes a billion bullets instead of being intelligent or using gadgets.
the scene when we first see Catwoman jump down the fire escape consists of some very bad cgi and it probably costed more for the cgi than just hiring a gymnast.
everytime i heard the term "drophead" my eyes tried to escape my head through the back of my skull. catwoman felt really forced too, you could take the character out of the movie and nothing would change. also the police was like really hot for puting batman in jail and like nothing came out of it, also i'm sure pengüin and batman killed like a bunch of people in that chase scene and nothing was mentioned, like at least pengüin was directly responsible for some of that shit and they just left him there. i could go on, i think this is one of those movies that the more i think about it the more flaws i find. that reminds me of the last jedi, and that's bad.
I think the Riddler being a massive dork and not intimidating at all once the hood was removed was intentional. Like he thanks his patreon supporters for the tips and donos, him acting like that during the interrogation was 100% in line. Something along the lines of “This guy is is just a dork who had one bad day too many.”
Holy shit that bomb fakeout was so infuriating. I was in my seat going "Jesus christ Alfred answer the goddamn phone it's your one job" and then when it was revealed I just went "Oh." when I bet they expected an "Ooooooooh I didn't expect that" I didn't expect it because it was so stupid
At least 30mins of the movie should have been cut, the Alfred bomb storyline should have been cut, and subsequent hospital scene. Also the joker scene was completely unnecessary. Matt Reeves could have gotten much better takes of Paul Dano and reigned him in a bit, at times his performance was comical in a bad way. They tried to introduce too many characters and give them all backstory and motivation. They should have stuck with the Batman 1st person perspective (outside of the opening scene which is perfect), everytime they deviated from him POV the movie suffered. In retrospect it feels like I had the best dinner of my life for the first 2 acts but I'm served a microwaved chocolate bar for a Final act as dessert; the movie begins to get worse right around the Arkham scene. They nailed so much perfectly, it's hard to hate this movie but in hindsight this was so close to being a masterpiece it makes me wonder what could have been.
3:01 I feel exactly the same. I know I unfortunately may have irritated someone else in the theater bc I couldn’t help but at least giggle at some of The Riddler’s lines
Kinda disagree with you bud. I think Andy served a great purpose in allowing Bruce to realize that he’s not a “nocturnal animal” as he described earlier and that there are people in his life worth caring and fighting for was perfect. I strongly disagree with your opinions on Paul Dano. Thought he was the perfect balance between insanity and intelligence. Also I feel like Bruce solves a lot of the problems on his own while utilizing those around him who know about certain things that relate. I think the set pieces, particularly the last one were great. But I’m glad you enjoyed it overall! Keep up the good work👍
Honestly I felt like Batman hardly solved a single thing on his own. Alfred solves the cipher (which I actually liked, always nice to see Alfred help out with superhero stuff), random cop is the only one who recognizes the carpet tool, Catwoman has to tell him about the "real club", and Penguin is the one who recognizes the wordplay in the whole "el rata" thing. That's the bit I'm still not over. Warehouse shootout turned carchase turned giant pileup and fireball on the freeway, doubtless costing innocent people's lives, all because the World's Greatest Detective didn't pay attention in Spanish class. I found it hilarious, but they clearly didn't mean for that part to be.
@@gideonjones5712 Nah Bruce told Alfred what to enter to solve the cipher. Bruce finds the “thumb drive”. Bruce solves every riddle given. And yes a giant fireball happened because of Penguin running, hence why Bruce was trying to stop him. Kinda like the Joker chase in the Dark Knight. Also Bruce knows what the translation means and he figures out “URL”. I feel like he solved a lot of it on his own. It’s also only his second year as Batman too. But I respect your opinion, i still loved the movie regardless.
With the amount of corrupt politicians being targeted you’d think it’d be Neil Breen as the Riddler
"Isn't that immoral?" -Riddler Breen
OH NOOOOOO!!! Most people agree that my vids are the worst on RUclips. I agree to disagree. Please agree to disagree with the haters, dear gus
It would've been hilarious if the politicians just randomly start shootings themselves on live TV like in Fateful Findings.
Not enough laptops, couldn’t be him
"I'm feeling less stable."
'Incel Riddler' was really funny. Having a scary serial killer character amicably thank his twitch chat for their donations was a stroke of comedic genius.
Loved that scene.
@ChillyCloth I don't think Arthur Fleck was supposed to be an incel.
I love how the left has misused the word "incel" to the point it's lost 90% of it's bite. That's why they can't have nice things. And can't meme.
@@JoveJoved indeed.
@@JoveJoved oh come on way to go saying a group of people with a political idealogy doesn't derserve nice things
my fav part was when batman was flying and hit the bridge and ate shit. that shit was epic
I felt insane bc I laughed so hard while everyone else was quiet lol
whyd he open his parachute at the only time that would make him eat shit though? That made no sense. Batmans suppose to be smart but that was a braindead move
I thought that scene was hilarious, but nobody else thought so? I'm confused on what that scene was suppose to get at
My name is Vengeance and welcome to Jackass
@@cunstar7190 this was clearly his very first time flying with the suit though. Not only is it his second year as Batman, but you can also clearly see the fear in his face before he jumps. I very much prefer my heroes to be flawed like this instead of the Gary Stu ass batman who can take on anyone because he's giga brained or whatever
This is one of the few batman movies that understand Gotham as a city, the city truly felt beyond help.
Definitely my favorite iteration of Gotham City so far, and the best since the Schumacher era. Say what you want about BF and B&R but his Gotham City was ripped straight from the comics.
Not as dark as Chicago but it's good
Agreed. The nolan movies just shot modern day Chicago. I want gothic architecture & brooding moody lighting, etcetera.
Cringe
Well a large portion of it was filmed in my neck of the woods, Glasgow. I can assure you that it wouldn't be too difficult to create a city that was beyond help.
I think the point of the interrogation scene was to show that under the mask, the Riddler feels powerful and intimidating, but when he’s just himself he’s the complete opposite, desperately trying to seem intimidating but coming off as hilariously pathetic
I can see that
Sounds like the riddler to me tbh
I get that but did he have to make me cringe so hard
But the movie took the interrogation scene seriously
that makes sense, and maybe could be seen as a twisted mirror of how bruce wayne is just a pathetic and depressed orphan but hides it under the badass persona of batman
The ramp scene was funny, but let’s not forget about Da B-Man literally fucking smashing his face like an idiot with his flying squirrel suit and then getting up “my back” style
That scene was ridiculous. If riddler tried to kill Batman, the knife would just boing off his skin
Don’t forget the scene where a bomb goes off right next to his face and his only knocks him out
Best part of the movie
I didn't dig the movie but I loved batman having that "Oh shit" moment before jumping and not being graceful. it was both funny and made me care for him
@@hollykruse113 yeah, I hate how most comics try to paint batman as basically super human and logically perfect, as if he was incapable of making mistakes. Seeing him fuck up and get things wrong in this film was refreshing to say the least, felt a lot more human than a lot of iterations just for that
I like the fact that he went back to Batman's detective roots. And The Riddler was basically the Zodiac Killer, the Unabomber and the villain from the movie Seven. I also like the fact that they showed that Bruce Wayne's parents were not the perfect human beings they are oftentimes portrayed as in the other movies.
yeah but the most detective thing he dose is just walk around a bunch as batman go down a red hearing line. The movie relies heavily on a mystery thats not that good
He never actually solves anything as a detective though. He solves the cute little riddles( most of the time) but never puts the whole picture together. There's even a scene where Bruce throws a fit and rearranges shit in his house because he's soooo concentrated on solving the mystery and theeeen? Lol nothing. He gets it wrong again and the riddler gives himself up. Only to be a step behind again when the riddler floods the city. How are people calling this shit a masterpiece.
Even his arc is tacked on with a slightly less bad "Martha" scene. Lol batman hears the riddler copy say "vengeance" just like he did so now his arc is complete. Masterfully done.
This movie was a mess, I expected more from Matt Reeves. It's like a teenage redditor wrote it.
Looked cool though I guess.
@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly I can understand this argument against the film. The only time they made him seem toe to toe with the riddles was when they were on the call together with the bomb strapped to Peter Sarsgaard. It was a good scene though. But people around pretty much solved some of those riddles for him. I gave this movie a 7/10. There's flaws, but it wasn't insulting. I thought Paul Dano played a great Riddler.
@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly I havent seen the movie yet but thats unfortunate. Ive heard people for years now say they wanted a more down to earth batman movie that didnt revolve around some "save the world/city" plot.
@@DarranKern oh well it shows that Bruce Wayne's parents were human. Flawed and fallible.
One part I can't believe no one's really mentioning (that you even play a clip from in this review) is the bomb blast that was apparently strong enough to send Batman flying 30 feet away but not strong enough to injure him in any way. Even if he was wearing armour, his mask barely covers half his face.
This is barely an excuse but Bruce puts his arms over his face right before the explosion.
The only excuse I can think of is it’s a directional explosive. Much like the claymore in the movie Nobody. The explosion blew the guys face off but the shockwave and pressure sent da Batman flying backwards. I assume his outfit softened the rest of damage, heat, landing etc….
The reason nobody gives it a glance is because this is a superhero movie. As much as the director wants to go for realism, which for the most part was really good, at the end of the day it's a batman movie. Obviously there's gonna be plot armor and most people are used to that
thats standard hollywood at this point. any explosion that sends someone flying back is guaranteed to result in serious injury. movies have been doing it for years.
One of the only flaws with the movie for me.
Tbh, I appreciated the post-capture interview of the Riddler. At his heart, the character of The Riddler is a dork. I felt they were playing his character far from his inspiration up until then. I liked the contrast of how in the end the Riddler looked and acted far less intimidating than before, it reminds us that you don't need to be strong or intimidating to be a killer, you just need chronic apathy and be willing to act upon it. So the interview scene is meant to downplay the Riddler, to explain his motives and show why he's in arkham rather than prison.
Ditto! I've been reading the comics for as long as I can remember and one of the things in the trailers I really was not thrilled about was reducing The Riddler to a scary serial killer. Like you said, most interpretations make him out to be an narcissistic nerd with serious underlying self-esteem issues so I felt him having a tantrum and losing all composure after batman just calls him a loser no one will remember worked really well. Also it was funny.
Brilliantly said. Couldn’t agree more.
Yeah, he's just wounded and a sick guy. Come on, he was crying in his last scene because Batman was saving people. He's a loser. Addum missed the point. He assumes every villain in these movies is meant to be scary and intimidating.
If Batman had thought to investigate where the pictures of the mayor with the Russian girl were taken from the film would've been LEGITIMATELY 1:30h long.
The amount Batman fucks up in this movie was honestly my favorite part. He fucks up so bad that it's a testament to the storytelling that hardly any fan came away pissed at how much he failed. Although it makes me laugh every time someone's says "they finally made batman a detective" like...yeah a bad detective lol
Exactly.
wait, i just realized he didnt even try to find where exactly the photos were taken LOL
Also the finale could have been averted if he'd looked at the murder weapon and thought "Gee I wonder what this is" rather than just going "yep, that's a murder weapon". I love it, this Batman's mix of competence in some areas and massive incompetence in others was great.
Yeah it's moments like this that made me question how a character like this could live for so long as a vigilante when dumb decisions are made all the time. But I guess he's bulletproof and explosion proof? It's like there's a hidden videogame health bar that refills between scenes.
I'm going to take a wild guess that the next Batman movie will be released in the next 2-3 years and will also score a 6/10 on yms
Leaving a reply, just to be pinged in 4 years
I'm gonna also do the exact thing the comment above me did
Same
Sequel will probably be a lot better
⠀
One thing that made me laugh my ass of during the movie was when Bruce Wayne went to go talk to Falcone, who told him "It was Maroni" who killed his parents, which he immediately believed, proceeded to go and tell Alfred, who told him "It was Falcone," which he then immediately believed. Going from him saying "It was Maroni" to then saying "It was Falcone" in just one scene made it extremely comedic in the way this information was conveyed to the viewer.
Idk the falcone confrontation scene was my favorite in the movie. Surprisingly potent. Helps that both pattinson and turturro are fantastic
@@ggthewhale no, the scene was pretty solid; its just that he went from believing "It was Maroni!" to "It was Falcone!" in the space of a single scene, after one conversation with Falcone then Alfred... pretty unintentionally comedic
That scene works because Falcone is smart enough to read Batman and his loneliness, and plays a father figure to him. You can tell how much Bruce really needs that, and Falcone plays him like a fiddle. A great, unique villain.
@BB-63 i watched the movie in a crowded theater surrounded by several friends who were really into Batman, so I had to stifle my laughter during the funniest parts. One of the parts when I felt like I was gonna have a brain aneurysm from holding back laughter was during the beginning when Batman is walking around Gotham city intimidating criminals and he’s like “I AM VENGEANCE.” Idk how they thought that line was unironically intimidating and not just hilarious, but i sure as hell found it mad comical.
@@gh0st_p3pp3r7 Like everyone I've spoken to thinks that line and the delivery was pretty sick. Obviously very subjective, but I don't know, maybe it's a you thing?
Adam calling the Batman "decent" with that exact tone is the least surprising thing I've heard this week.
Honestly, that's high praise for a superhero flick from him. I might actually watch the movie at some point.
He's not much of a comic book/Batman fan, but he loves film, which is why he'll probably never love a Batman movie other than The Dark Knight(and to a lesser extent Batman Begins). Which is understandable anyways, The Dark Knight is my favorite film, and I'm an enthusiast of both the character of Batman and movies in general.
Considering how negative he was reacting to the trailers it was kind of suprirsing that he was positive in many parts of the review
@@Crow-qm7zw If The Dark Knight was released today, Addum would be lukewarm to it at best. Heath Ledger and the score aside, it's a generic superhero movie, only slightly above average.
@@tiaaaron3278 I mean, if that's your opinion that's fine, but from Adam's praise of TDK I'm pretty sure you're wrong about him. He loves the direction of the movie, like the sound design and restraint(example: not using music during the chase scene), how the action effects throughout the movie were pretty much all practical, a ton of great performances, the entire score being phenomenal as opposed to The Batman(seriously, how many "The Batman theme but only the good part" videos are on RUclips?). There's also the incredible script, otherwise the same people saying the only great thing about it is Ledger's performance ironically wouldn't be praising it so much.
And I tend to agree with him. Like a specific example is the Alfred hospital scene in The Batman. I felt nothing. Never mind Serkis' meh performance and the buildup to it, the music was insanely distracting during the scene. Why the hell do we need generic sad music? Let the scene speak for itself if it's supposed to be so emotional and personal between those two characters.
There's a reason why The Dark Knight is considered an all time great movie 15 years later. Why there are many famous lines people still quote to this day from multiple characters. Why it's a literal national treasure sitting at the Library of Congress. I don't think The Batman even comes close to that level. What the hell am I gonna be quoting from The Batman in 15 years? But if it's more so your kind of movie that's fine, just a matter of taste.
Paul Dano was a magician in this film. As an actor, you take risks and hope that it works out. Sometimes it doesn't. But I swear, the fact that Paul Dano could make the choices he made in this film regarding his performance as Riddler and NOT come off as an absolute cringey embarrassment is actual magic to me. I don't even know how he did it. I have loved his work ever since There Will Be Blood, all the way to Love and Mercy. I loved this movie as well.
Nice way to put it, i also expected cringe incel vibes but it worked pretty well to me too, even if the ave maria also made me giggle a little in the movie.
Honestly don’t understand what Adam was on about Me and my friends thought Dano was amazing all throughout the film.
@@Nah-ps7iy i did get cringe incel vibes but in a way that worked for me. like... yeah this is what a dangerously smart incel would be like
He absolutely came of as a cringey embarrassment to me. Lol the way he just starts screaming and moaning. And his weird ass acting with the "joker". It was all horrible. He's at his best when he's standing menacingly like in the beginning
Especially his monologues! I've been fishing everywhere for his speeches. You know how every villain of late acts "cool and composed", Paul stood out from that. It's quickly becoming one of my favourite unorthodox performances in a while.
Adum's version of Paul Dano's falsetto "Ave Maria" is eternal.
I thought he just played the clip from the movie
Reminds me of Filthy Frank lmao
Eternal cringe
Tbf I doubt any choir boy who went through puberty is gonna sound like he did before lmao kinda fit
the fact that no one suffers any visible injuries during this entire film was also very odd and sort of annoying. The worst offense is when penguin rolls his whip 5 times during a high speed chase, the airbags dont go off and his face looks fine
THANK YOU! The voice of reason, finally
Or when the mob boss guy (I forgot his name) gets shot in the face and there’s like barely any blood let alone his face being obliterated
@@339bailey Reason for that was because the movie is rated PG-13.
It's known as... suspension of disbelief. In literally every superhero movie they do this, the Dark Knight LITERALLY does the same exact thing you're talking about when the truck Joker drove was flipped
The pg-13 no blood policy was distracting, especially during the riddler murder scenes.
Spoiler:
On my second viewing I notice that it made sense why Batman didn’t understand what the carpenter tool was by the beginning of the third act. Like Selina said about rich folk, Bruce was grown as a privileged kid, why would he know what a carpenter tool would do. He never had to do any physical labour or any of the sorts .I love how Batman was actually a detective who makes mistakes instead of a all knowing super genius. 10/10 in my books
i grew up poor and i had no idea what that was
@@Wodro Well obviously not every poor person would naturally know what it was, but it’s basically guaranteed a sheltered rich boy would not know.
I think the same applies to the "el rata alada" riddle. Really loved how even the tiniest details add to Batman's arc of realizing how self-absorbed and unaware of his surroundings he actually is.
ooo good point!
The Riddler thinks Batman is like him, someone raised on the street and had a similar upbringing, so it makes sense that he thought Batman would connect the dots on the carpet tool. Something like "Why did he choose a carpet tool as a murder weapon, that seems very intentional, oh it's probably because he used it, his room has a carpet, oh there's probably something under it". I think the same can go for the Spanish riddle. If you grow up on the streets you probably interact with more people of different ethnicities and languages, so Riddler thought Batman would understand.
The fact that it never occurred to Batman to think of a "winged rat" as a bat was hilariously inept
Why would Batman think he himself was the rat?.....
Agreed
That's what I thought of first, but he was very quick with the other riddles that it made me think that he did conclude that it was him, but he had to play it dumb just to protect his identity.
@@mytime991 I don't think so because then he would've been able to warn Alfred in time and not be an hour late.
Because he wasn't the rat, he also at the time didn't know Spanish and couldn't get the context clue
I for one loved Paul Dano's take on Riddler. Mostly because the scene of Riddler as Dark Web Vlogger was so funny. I've seen it twice now and that scene just gets funnier.
This movie has some pretty funny moments honestly. Batman decking Gordon than running away and that thumb drive joke were hilarious which is ironic because some critics were complaining how the movie was humourless.
@@VarinderBhandal the thumb drive cracks me up
You’d better pay him some respect, he has over 500 followers.
Predictable, don't you think?
sir... you better see this... this guy has over 500 followers.......
Gotta disagree with your take on Paul Dano's Riddler. His performance is incredibly psychologically realistic as this scarred, deranged, socially-inept recluse. And no, I'm not one of those fans who says "it's bad because it's supposed to be bad." Paul Dano's performance simply isn't bad. It perfectly encapsulates social awkwardness and emotional disturbance
Lmao absolutely not
Nah man, it's pretty bad. Waaay too hammy.
Singing Ava Maria that way is realistic right? Sure
@@alcas4832 Clearly you have never witnessed psychosis before. Get out of the room and get exposed to the world some more, okay?
@@Clipzilla42 Really in the trenches
"it was decent"
you know what? That's good enough for me
I thought the same
By Adums score a 6/10 and decent is what most call a 9/10 and love
I was shocked he gave it a 6, a 6 in YMS usually means it's great 🤣
any comic book movie is decent or shitty to adum even if it's furry like da batman
@@cannibalbunnygirl not really, adam does gives 7´s and above. plenty of movies he has given 10´s or has insinuated the highest score possible, The Batman just was an above mediocre movie. thats a 6/10, he enjoyed it. I think the same, 7/10 for me, enjoyable to watch, not as good as nolan´s
This is basically a 10/10 by YMS to average viewer standard.
Yes
I'm convinced that Adam wouldn't give a film a 10/10 even if it was his favorite film of all time haha
@@inyrui Watch The Lighthouse review then ;)
@@lukaslazari oh damn, just did. I'm glad he liked that one so much. That was my favorite movie of that year
@@inyrui he has a IMDB page where you can see his 10/10s
I just love that all of Adam's reviews feel so genuine. Even if I sometimes disagree with him, he always expresses himself honestly and he never distorts his feelings so he can conform to a more popular opinion.
I absolutely loved the opening shot, with the Riddler stalking the mayor and Ave Maria playing.
That opening scene was cinematic brilliance.
I loved the parallel between him stalking the mayor and Vengeance stalking Catwoman
@@ThreadBomb that opening gives you this tingling sensation
Me: “c’mon, 6/10, 6/10…”
Adum: “I’m giving this a 6/10”
Me: “perfection”
I love that 6/10 for Adum is like 9/10 for any other reviewer
@@chuckbatmangaming true
@@chuckbatmangaming When he gave "I've been thinking about ending things" 10/10, I was baffled.
It felt like losing virginity.
@@ruffusgoodman4137 he gave that a 10?! I mean it was really good but...I didn't know Adum gave out 10s lol
@@chuckbatmangaming he's given 10s, they're just more rare, just like his 1s. He watches alot of movies, so 5s and 6s will inevidebly be the score for more decent/mediocre movies.
It's a miracle this film exists. A blockbuster that manages to feel like a 70' - 90's crime thriller. Doesn't sacrifice the integrity of It's story in an attempt to retain audience attention. It's a challenge to modern day film goers and in all 3 of my watches my faith in big budget films and their audience was restored. We want more of this!
I think youre really overselling this movie. It's fantastic but what exactly did it do that's so off from the mainstream? It gave us the best from the comics but you're acting like it's super experimental or something
@@simpsonlover100 Also, the story was really basic, so there wasn't much to sacrifice in the first place.
The challenge to modern day films goers shouldn't be to hold in their piss for so long. It was way longer than it had any right to be.
"Doesn't sacrifice the integrity of It's story in an attempt to retain audience attention"
Dude the car chase was nearly completely pointless, and the last 30 mins was straight up brain dead recreation of TDK's final act.
Are you being sarcastic? Is this bait?
Weirdly enough, it did kind of feel like they presented Riddler as cute in that interrogation scene while presenting Batman as this horror monster. Like the way Dano was sitting all proper with a smirk on his face and then Batman shrouded in dark
The best way I'd heard him described in that scene was him "having Chris Chan vibes".
@@mateuszjokiel2813 this is both incredibly accurate and chilling to the bone
@@mateuszjokiel2813 Chris Chan but if they were obsessed with terrorists
Knowing adum he probably left 2 seconds before the credits rolled and therefore can’t properly review it. Shameful
The absolute madman
That MONSTER
Ha.
Adum, you can't just give it a 6/10 because "it wasn't shown at Toronto International Film Festival"
True but he can give it a 6/10 for the reasons he listed in the video...
This made me lol 🤣
Glad I'm not the one who found the "ave maria" scene hilarious, everyone else seems to think it was terrifying
Yeah I felt the rest of the scene was fine but when he started signing I lost it. Like I get why its in there but gotdamn theres not a better take? or just him smiling looking creepy?
i would've been fine with it if batman just reacted like it was cringe and embarrassing
Because he comes off as unhinged
Even in the trailer before the film came out, I feared wether or not the scene would work or not. Because when Batman punched the glass in the trailer, it was goofy. But now we got this Ave Maria crap
Can I be in both camps? On one hand the little incel losing his shit over his admired hero not liking him enough was pure gold. On the other this nobody incel little shit just buttfucked both the big scary batman and the city and they have no clue how
I saw this movie around 3 days ago in theatres. When it got to the car scene there was a loud alarm that blared. We thought it was just apart of the movie but it kept going on and on. Eventually someone on the PA said that there was an emergency happening. I had to pee at around that moment so I got out to pee and also see what had happened. Turns out the two sides of the theatre had to evacuate because of a fire (the theatre I was in was near the entrance so we didn’t have to leave). Firefighters came in and checked the damage and after fifteen minutes of the alarm blaring it finally stopped. No lie I think if that fire alarm didn’t happen my opinion on the movie would’ve been different because throughout that fifteen minutes the movie was still going on but I could not focus on it at all.
*TLDR: Fire broke out at my local theatre and played a really loud alarm for fifteen minutes straight while I was watching The Batman*
What a shitty movie theater for just keeping the film going... during a fire alarm. A _fire_ alarm!
On my first watch the movie felt about 5hrs long and the entire 3rd act didn’t connect with me whatsoever but really enjoyed the vibe of the movie. On my second watch the movie felt like 2hrs and the story made total sense to me, felt like I actually knew what’s really happening and not being crippled by my own massive expectations.
I think I need to watch it a second time if this is the case for you because I've only seen it once and was dissapointed with the 3rd act along with being crippled by my own expectations lol
Agree 1000%
Personally I just went hoping for a good movie and I felt it was way too long. I don't always agree with YMS but I fully agree with him on this movie. I did not like Paul Dano's Riddler at all. Not because of any prior expectation of how the Riddler should be, but because of that really annoying "crazy guy" impression of drawing out your words like you're soooooo unhiiiiiiiinged. It was like watching a Disney Channel villain. But I did like the way it was shot, and the slow detective Batman stuff.
Same here, the first time around I was annoyed by the score being just repetitive and Paul Dano's unmasked Riddler bothered me too. The second time around it all clicked and the whole movie felt more cohesive.
For me the hours flew by. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, even more so because the people in the theatre I was in would cheer everytime something cool happened on screen.
Adam you can’t give it a 0 just because it’s not horse man
You mean Horse Ninja™?
@@Edax_Royeaux beat me to it
um cAN'T YOU SEE? HE NEEDS HIS SEXUAL URGES SATISFIED OR IT'S A NO GO!
The interrogation was so fucking funny especially when Paul Dano starts REEEing
Adum should play Condiment King in the sequel
What about Crazy Quilt!
or his nemesis, Kite Man
@@unforgiven_91 Hell yeah
What about the Gay Horse Man
Something I really really loved was that they took a bunch of the Batman villains and turned them into realistic criminals.
Instead of the penguin being a cartoonish fat man in a penguin tuxedo who lives in a cave with penguins.
He’s not instead just a pink and club owner with penguin as his nickname
The penguin cave Penguin was really only present in the Burtonverse. Originally, the Penguin had always been a regular, if comically short, mob boss.
Very late, but you do realize that he has a mobster who owns a club in almost every iteration? Like a lot of Batman villains are supposed to have quite a bit of realism to them.
I will never understand the “overused theme” it felt just as appropriate as the how the theme in the Raimi Spider-Man films was used.
I find it especially weird that Adum mentions it being overused, despite not feeling the same way toward Taxi Driver, even though the fucking saxophone motif in that movie played a fucking bajillion times.
There’s a difference between a motif and the literal same two notes being played ENDLESSLY.
Chance Kimber is spot on. Also consider that in addition to having a more complex melody that lasts longer than two notes, Taxi Driver is an hour shorter than The Batman, so whereas the Taxi Driver soundtrack may start to feel a little repetitive after two hours, by the third hour of The Batman its score becomes pretty grating.
@@LukeAmick94
Exactly. Like, don’t get me wrong I actually really like The Batman’s theme, it just got waaay overused.
@@MrMetalforever5 Would we apply that logic to Carpenter's score in Halloween? Cause thats just barebones as hell and its a poweful motif thats memorable and generally loved by most people
@@MrMetalforever5 Except that the film doesn’t play the Batman theme endlessly at all. Just go to the actual soundtrack and take a listen. The score is full of memorable and distinct melodies and motifs.
(Sees review score)
Riddler: AAAAAAAA, This is *NOT* the way it was supposed to go!
I thought the moment when the Riddler starts singing and Batman is punching the window angrily would be really really funny if it didn't have the bgm in the back, especially out of context
SPOILER
I actually loved Dano's performance in this. I respect your take on it, but I actually felt like he was portraying the character as it was written. He plays a guy who feels robbed by a society that was supposed to take care of him in his particular situation but failed horribly due to greed/power. On the one hand, he is intelligent enough to pull off some grand plots of murder on the most corrupt leaders of said city. On the other, he's still a very awkward little boy who never really grew up and was deprived of acceptance. The shift in tones from the absolute psychopath in control of the situation to the timid boy making videos for his fans and trying his best to impress Batman were very well done, IMO. I loved the interrogation scene because that's where you realize he is living in a delusion of grandeur. You also get to see just how unhinged and unaware he is of the reality of things. I think Dano pulled that off perfectly. Loved the review, though! Glad you enjoyed the film overall!
I remember laughing at EVERY Riddler dialog at the movie, and actually falling from my chairaughing when the riddler started singing ave maria.
The movie was great and every moment they try to solve the rata alada mas magnificent
blasphemous
I’m glad someone with some credibility criticized the runtime. Felt like an absolute crazy person
I supposed I'm just used to longer runtimes as most of the films I watch that are shorter than 2.5 hrs are actually animated movies, but I really don't get what all the fuss is about. If people can sit through Endgame and Zack Snyder's Justice League (both significantly inferior films in my opinion), they should be able to sit through this, no? Perhaps it's just the roller-like, incessant tone that starts to feel overwhelming for some?
This film suffers from the same problem that the third PotA did, that is introducing a plot point in the second half of the movie and resolving it 5 minutes later. In PotA, it was the flower scene. Here, it's the problem with Thomas Wayne
Falcone: Yo, your father was a murderer
Batman: omg no my entire system of beliefs is shuttered
Literally the next scene:
Alfred: nah dawg, your daddy was a good man, it was an accident, chill
I agree all the Alfred storyline after Arkham should have been cut. The Falcone/ Thomas Wayne plot should be resolved in another movie, some doubt should have been allowed to grow in his mind, which would have been a great character arc... Like in let's say a court of owls or Hugo Strange plotline.
3 hours is proof that narcissism has taken over. Blade Runner is 1 hour and 30 minutes and it feels like it's packed with 2 hours of content, now you need a 3 hours movie for 1 hour of content.
Wake up babe new YMS quickie just dropped
i honestly didn’t mind the score, and i really loved that it was this long, for me everything mattered, like u said super consistent! and i loved that, i agree with the riddles and how batman got his info!! great review dude
Based review of his review
There was a lot more to the score than that motif, but the motif was the most important part. I thought the way it was used was very clever, so that a very simple two note thing became emotionally very powerful by the end. (And honestly I thought the other non-motif parts of the score were derivative and not very inspired.)
@@Thatdudewiththedogs LOL
I loved the movie, but honestly I think the biggest issue was the score for me. It kept pulling me out of the movie, I don't know if it was mixing or the choices.
Why is every single blockbuster at least 2 and a half hours now? Do you have any idea how weak my bladder is?
For real. I had to pee throughout most of the movie, and I may have to watch it again since I do think it affected my experience.
I LOVED the first 2 acts of the film and the cinematography was beautiful, but good lord the 3rd act really undercut the whole movie for me. It spent 2 hours building up how realist and gritty gotham is, how it's a big city filled with small crime and batman cant be everywhere at once, then with absolutely no setup "I'm GoInG To FlOoD ThE CiTy" what in the actual fuck. Like even logistically who builds a city under sea-level, as soon as that happened I mentally checked out. Also Barry Keoghans joker is god awful and better not return
Literally 1/3rd of the Netherlands are below sea level LMAO
there are so many cities that exist that are below sea level
Disagree on everything after the word "fuck" but yeah, that plot point was stupid in my opinion. Generally for Batman solo movies, the lower and more personal the stakes, the better imo. Think: Year One, The Killing Joke, Under the Red Hood, The Long Halloween, hell, The Dark Knight Returns even. And seriously, while a Riddler following is believable for how wretched the city of Gotham is in this film, how on earth are they gonna pull off a city-wide mass terrorist attack in such a short time with presumably so little resources?
@@handsanitizeroos5235 gotham isn't in the netherlands
@@doomgu544 yeah but not right by the ocean which can be so easily flooded. Not in america at least
I really love how well you articulate yourself. I often feel the same way and agree with many of your points, but would struggle to put it into words the way you do.
I feel the exact same honestly. Best superhero film Tone wise in a long while.
Since “Logan” (2017) In my opinion
@@ThaBotmon and The Joker
Oh was tone loc commissioner Gordon, I thought I recognised him. That’s weird cos he was also in ace ventura with the first riddler
I'm gonna have to hard disagree on Paul Dano's performance: the Riddler is a campy, cringy, goofy villain at his core. It's extremely hard to make The Riddler work in a serious, gritty detective story, and after Nolan's trilogy, I don't think audiences are going to be wont to accept a goofy, campy, silly batman movie for a long time. Batman is gritty and dark now, and that's just how he has to be.
I think the choice to make him a livestreamer who's obviously this massive loser with no friends is a perfect direction to go in. The Riddler's ego is a core part of his character: he can't just be smart, he has to have his genius *recognized* and acknowledged by others, so that desperation leading him down a path of straight-up radicalization really worked for me. He is a campy, dumb, goofy loser who is putting on an act like he's Jigsaw, and the fact of it being an act that completely falls apart during the interrogation is integral to making him interesting to me. He's still just a pathetic loser who's trying to seem edgy and cool, he's just completely and utterly failing at it now.
Dano's performance was definitely, shall we say, influenced by Ledger's Joker, but I thought it was insanely gripping the way the pendulum swung back and forth between 'haha I'm smarter than you' and 'I am having a mental breakdown because my worldview is so distorted' made me absolutely adore his performance and the role the character served for the narrative.
I think making him a massive loser with mental issues make him far less scary than if he were you know, like a serial killer with high IQ.
they literally wrote and directed the riddler as "he is likely on the spectrum" which is lazy and super weird considering how pc we are in 2022
@@3U9ENE I don't know about that. There are plenty of highly intelligent serial killers that are losers in the real world as well. Ed Kemper is a good example.
I don't know why movies still feel so limited and constricting. The videgame by comparison absolutely knocked EVERYTHING out of the park in terms of batman and his villains. Everyone is as campy or villainous or serious or evil as they should be.
Why do movies always hold back like they're afraid to just go all out.
I love that both Alfred and Batman were inches away from high yield explosives and not only lived but had zero burn marks on their face at all. Riddler was using some Fisher Price type dynamite
What you you think of the leaked deleted scene where Catwoman gets help from Cool cat?
THANKS DADDY DEREK!
Never thought I'd want Derek to use guns unsafely but that time, I did
I hate Matt Reeves. His characters don’t behave like humans with emotions and brains capable of logical thinking.
Eg. Mayor gets shot in the stomach, later casually walks in flood water holding Batman’s hand. No biggie.
Bruce tells butler he’s basically family. Butler reached out hand and leaves it hanging until Bruce is guilted into touching it. Then bat light is on and Bruce couldn’t be out of there any quicker.
Batman accuses cat woman of being a hoe. Cat woman is angry and then decides to tell Batman her deepest secrets in a vulnerable fashion. Then Batman wants to make out. In like 3 minutes. Humans don’t behave like this. Only incels would think this is how women work. Just neg Catwoman sure.
Honestly this movie was a pleasant surprise, nothing crazy but a pretty interesting and fairly enjoyable
agreed
Facts. It’s not the masterpiece that the fans are claiming it to be, but still enjoyable
@@averagegoslingenthusiast2033 what a bold false statement to make
@@averagegoslingenthusiast2033 It is a very solid movie, that gets elevated to greatness if it clicks with you. It is probably a solid 7, maybe 8/10, but for me, it is a masterpiece. But it's definitely not to everyones taste.
@@Hunterfalke fair enough. If you loved it, that’s all that matters
I've gotta say, the fight scenes were really well choreographed, and I appreciated that the Batman actually looked like a guy walking around in bat armor rather than some comic book superhero. It was pretty cool
when the Riddler gave Batman the cards with the clues I got flashbacks to Lisa Simpson giving the Choo Choo Choose me valentines card to Ralph Wiggum.
I like the bit about the music tones cuz that was one of the best parts of Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse: both Miles' motif and the Spider-Man motif were just two notes, and yet the way they're used does SUCH a good job showing Miles' growth as a character
Adum. I just want to express how much I like the consistency in your voice when it comes to reviewing movies. Even though I disagree with you almost 100 percent of the time, I still listen to your opinion on a movie because its from your perspective. I believe its important for people to find a reviewer whos personal taste differs from theirs just for the sake of opening up to new ideas.
Is your avatar from the classic animated series?
@@ruffusgoodman4137 Good eye my dude! Its from the spin off animated series Justice League. The character is called "The Question".
@@thequestion8697 I wasn't sure, great great choice! I'd trade any Marvel movie for one single standalone movie about him.
I've seen you around youtube, have been a silent admirer for a while
@@ruffusgoodman4137 I appreciate the compliments. Thank you very much. I would love to see a Question movie. A noir about a paranoid conspiracy theorist with a really unsettling mask would be really fun. We cpuld even have cameos from other DC detectives. Like Detective Chimp. Oh and ofcourse his romance with Huntress is adorable.
@@thequestion8697 He and Huntress are an awesome couple. We don't see that very often these days
What it left with me: Orange
I feel like people didn’t rewatch the dark knight in a while before making the comparisons. I rewatched the entire trilogy before watching this film and I have to say that the dark knight and the Batman sorta felt like two different experiences. The dark knight was more of mob thriller with huge set pieces while the Batman is a very slow burn detective noir film like Chinatown or Se7en. Both films gave me different experiences and I can’t really argue if people thought one was better than the other. They both 10/10 in my book honestly.
"Rat with wings."
Batman: Pigeon!
Me: YOU HAVE A BAT ON YOUR CHEST GODDAMNIT.
Edit: Should probably clarify that I really enjoyed detective batman in this movie, but it was odd that someone who had been portrayed and extremely smart and capable of deciphering the riddles up to that moment to suddenly get it so wrong.
It seems fair to me. Once you get a theory into your head, it can be hard to see even obvious things from a different point of view. Plus, Batman's never had to deal with anything this cryptic before - he's not experienced enough to second guess himself.
Why would Batman think he himself was the rat tho?
Plus bat wasnt even the right answer
why would batman think he was the rat ?
He wasn't the rat though, it was Falcone at the end
More of this Riddler serial killer please, the costume was awesome and I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope scarecrow enters this universe.
I hear for sequel villains they're considering Calendar man, Hugo Strange, Court of Owls and Mr. Freeze. Scarecrow would be awesome because Nolan films as Nostalgia Critic points out is wasted potential
@@ManiacMayhem7256 You're using Nostalgia Critic as a reference for a good idea?
..... yikes.....
@@heavydfunk Watch his review of Batman Begins, and tell me if he is wrong
He isn't. Don't be a contrarian. You can dislike Nostalgia Critic and still agree with the point, Redditor
don't forget that after that GIANT pileup on the freeway caused directly by the penguin they, then just let him go because he gave them some vague information. So he can continue to be the Penguin in the next movie
I might be the only one to think that Paul Dano's performance in the interrogation scene was fucking incredible. But hey, I guess that's just me
You are not, I usually agree with Adam on most things but I think he really missed the mark there
Yeah it's great but it's still cringe and hilarious. If the movie didn't treat him like he's scary it would've been better
@@porc1429 They treated him like he was scary. His mask made him terrifying. But his true self is just a mentally ill man who has suffered tremendously. But his frustration with his plan failing to work is exactly how the riddler would act. I did sorta laugh tho but it's not due to cringe but rather the massive difference between Riddler with and without his mask.
@@jasonalv7436 Yeah I was talking about the interrogation scene. It was hilarious
@@porc1429 Seeing an absolute narcissist go ballistic like a child after his plan fails to work is just funny
I laughed multiple times out loud during this movie, while my friends slept through the whole thing. There are so many shots of the characters walking around in their gimp suits and they are played so straight that you can’t help laughing at how awkward it is.
paul dano did great...
I gave this movie a 6-7/10 and got FLAMED on tiktok, insta, and reddit. "iT's sO rEaLiStiC, yOu jUsT dOn'T gEt iT mArVeL fAn bOi" lmao xd get bent
Thank you for not making me feel like the only one who wanted to laugh really hard in that interrogation scene because it felt so weird how everyone seemed to have a different experience (which is fine but I didn't expect an overwhelming amount of people to be into his performance in that scene)
Two notes?
Sooooo..... they couldn't afford a third one ?..... Huh.
BAD BAD MANAGEMENT.
I agree about the music score. They really do milk that theme to the extent it becomes draining.
I didn't mind the long run time, or the tone or anything. But I felt like the movie didn't stick the landing, the Riddler just devolves into "I'm gonna kill everyone", like...why? It barely fits in to the established motive he had prior. And the climax scene was pretty lackluster, just felt like he was having a small fight with some typical grunts and then it ends. I felt very little.
So I enjoyed the journey for the most part, but I can't see myself watching the movie again
I would watch it again and stop once the third act starts lol
I didn't feel like it understood the sociological themes it tried to incorporate
the movie was partially filmed in my home city, and its VERY obvious because they used some of our cities most iconic buildings as major set pieces.
It's weird, I went into this thinking it wouldn't leave much of an impression because of comic book/Batman exhaustion but I've been thinking about it days after seeing it, even running through the score. The story itself isn't memorable but it really, really, really gets the tone and atmosphere right. I'll argue this is the closest we've gotten to an actual Batman comic adaption since maybe Tim Burton. It's weird, unsettling and creepy. However it shouldn't have been as long as it was even though winding through the hell that is Gotham kept me interested, even if that interest was fading at times.
I didn't have a problem with the interrogation scene, it's just revealing the Riddler is a loser despite terrorizing the city and going after the powerful. Despite all his work he's still just a spiteful dork in a looney bin.
i thought it was way too slow. other than that, well made.
I cant believe adam gave my new personality a 6/10
Underrated comment
I liked this movie, and I approve this message
I'm surprised you never mentioned how obvious it was that this was originally meant to be an R film and then was re-cut to make this edit
I completely agree this movies greatest flaw is its length
I think the Catwoman romance is the greatest flaw. It's unconvincing and unnecessary. It pads out the second half unnecessarily and weakens the ending, arguably the most important part of any movie.
@@ThreadBomb eh, this version of batman is basically an incel and you could see it when they first meet that batman is thirsty
If you asked 100 people "what do you call a flying rat?" 98 people would've said "a bat".
That bit bothered me.
Gotham is basically a representation of New York so it makes sense that their first assumption is a pigeon. Just sayin, not a lot of bats in the city but plenty of flying rat pigeons
Why would Batman think the rat was himself, though? That wouldn't make sense either
@@zachataxxii7126 At first I thought "Oh maybe Thomas Wayne was the rat and that's why Riddler knows who Batman is." But then the film pulled the carpet from under me by revealing Riddler didn't know who Batman was lol
@@MrHEC381991 I really liked that part because you can tell Batman is like "Oh shit, he knows who I am" when Riddler simply says "Bruce Wayne". He even looks visibly relieved when he realizes Riddler's just going on a rant and the only reason he hasn't connected the dots is because he can't comprehend the idea of Bruce actually going out and fighting crime.
@@zachataxxii7126 lol I liked it when Catwoman says "whoever you are, you're clearly rich".
I'm really not a fan of how many people in this comment section seem to want Batman to be a perfect Gary Stu (despite this clearly being him just starting out) or don't realize that the Riddler is supposed to be a pathetic incel once he's unmasked. Opinions on how they actually acted are valid, but it seems like way too many people refuse to look at any Batman character beyond surface level "This guy is badass/crazy/whatever" (Just look at all the people immediately comparing Barry Keoghan's Joker to Heath Ledger's despite having 6 minutes of screen time & 5 of that is in a deleted scene).
you are right. but going to the other side of the coin.
A lot of people really like to give meaning where none is deserved to defend a piece of media, rationalizing faults, reaching for interpretations that are not deserved and being pedantic asf.
This movie had plenty of flaws in tone vs acting, pacing, lack of development in characters, among others. there is no "meaning" in this flaws, there are just flaws. but people will refuse to talk about them and just cope. which its pathetic.
What’s the time jump he’s talking about for the bomb scene? I remember a jump forwards, but not backwards
This movie had some of the best action sequences I’ve seen in a long time
They were garbage, Batman tanked a billion shots because of his armor suit and nobody shooting in his face. If it wasn´t for his suit he would have probably lost to every single enemy.
@@xBox360BENUTZER That's the point of his suit, genius
@@xBox360BENUTZER the fight scene at the end was like a really bad ps2 game with your character having massive amounts of health and the AI being completely dumb
@nikolai 1939 I kinda said it because of how there weren’t really quick cuts
@@KellanGDM The point is batman being bad at unarmed combat and having to rely on his armor? He loses basically every fist fight if it wasn´t for his armor and rather takes a billion bullets instead of being intelligent or using gadgets.
the scene when we first see Catwoman jump down the fire escape consists of some very bad cgi and it probably costed more for the cgi than just hiring a gymnast.
everytime i heard the term "drophead" my eyes tried to escape my head through the back of my skull. catwoman felt really forced too, you could take the character out of the movie and nothing would change. also the police was like really hot for puting batman in jail and like nothing came out of it, also i'm sure pengüin and batman killed like a bunch of people in that chase scene and nothing was mentioned, like at least pengüin was directly responsible for some of that shit and they just left him there. i could go on, i think this is one of those movies that the more i think about it the more flaws i find. that reminds me of the last jedi, and that's bad.
Can we agree as the world's greatest detective, Batman couldn't find cuff links in his own building while getting dressed as Bruce?
The interrogation scene had me and my friend crying from laughter.
I couldn't take The Riddler seriously after that.
Yeah, i was like, STOP PUNCHING THE GLASS, YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT!!
@@somerandolad same.
@@somerandolad to be fair I feel like that’s the point. It felt like he was supposed to be looked at as an brat throwing a tantrum.
You're like those people who laughed at the scenes in The Shining because they didn't allow themselves to buy into the film.
Thumbnail was 9999999% Robert Smith
3:21 I liked his performance except for that moment.
I think the Riddler being a massive dork and not intimidating at all once the hood was removed was intentional. Like he thanks his patreon supporters for the tips and donos, him acting like that during the interrogation was 100% in line. Something along the lines of “This guy is is just a dork who had one bad day too many.”
The interrogation scene didn't really work for me either. I was kinda surprised that people seemed to be praising it.
I'll never understand how this got approved to be almost 3 hrs long lmao
Maybe someone will do like a fan supercut and trim it down a bit someday?
haven’t watched, gonna guess adum gives it a six
Yup
ye
Did you watch this one the whole way through or skipping?
Holy shit that bomb fakeout was so infuriating. I was in my seat going "Jesus christ Alfred answer the goddamn phone it's your one job" and then when it was revealed I just went "Oh." when I bet they expected an "Ooooooooh I didn't expect that"
I didn't expect it because it was so stupid
The reason they only played two notes is that they didn't want to license the rest of the Imperial March
I could NOT disagree more with that Paul Dano take, damn.
Sure you liked it, you identify with the protagonist. Batman is visibly depressed.
Better, tighter editing. Different, non forgettable characters, especially Catwoman, and a reason to care about them and it could have been better.
At least 30mins of the movie should have been cut, the Alfred bomb storyline should have been cut, and subsequent hospital scene. Also the joker scene was completely unnecessary. Matt Reeves could have gotten much better takes of Paul Dano and reigned him in a bit, at times his performance was comical in a bad way. They tried to introduce too many characters and give them all backstory and motivation. They should have stuck with the Batman 1st person perspective (outside of the opening scene which is perfect), everytime they deviated from him POV the movie suffered. In retrospect it feels like I had the best dinner of my life for the first 2 acts but I'm served a microwaved chocolate bar for a Final act as dessert; the movie begins to get worse right around the Arkham scene. They nailed so much perfectly, it's hard to hate this movie but in hindsight this was so close to being a masterpiece it makes me wonder what could have been.
@@adamjung6104 amen! I was all about it through the first act and then peaked at the car chase... And then... Slog
3:01
I feel exactly the same. I know I unfortunately may have irritated someone else in the theater bc I couldn’t help but at least giggle at some of The Riddler’s lines
Kinda disagree with you bud. I think Andy served a great purpose in allowing Bruce to realize that he’s not a “nocturnal animal” as he described earlier and that there are people in his life worth caring and fighting for was perfect. I strongly disagree with your opinions on Paul Dano. Thought he was the perfect balance between insanity and intelligence. Also I feel like Bruce solves a lot of the problems on his own while utilizing those around him who know about certain things that relate. I think the set pieces, particularly the last one were great. But I’m glad you enjoyed it overall! Keep up the good work👍
I thought Alfred didn't serve much purpose in the film apart from dropping some gossip from his hospital bed, but Andy's performance was good.
Honestly I felt like Batman hardly solved a single thing on his own. Alfred solves the cipher (which I actually liked, always nice to see Alfred help out with superhero stuff), random cop is the only one who recognizes the carpet tool, Catwoman has to tell him about the "real club", and Penguin is the one who recognizes the wordplay in the whole "el rata" thing.
That's the bit I'm still not over. Warehouse shootout turned carchase turned giant pileup and fireball on the freeway, doubtless costing innocent people's lives, all because the World's Greatest Detective didn't pay attention in Spanish class. I found it hilarious, but they clearly didn't mean for that part to be.
@@gideonjones5712 Nah Bruce told Alfred what to enter to solve the cipher. Bruce finds the “thumb drive”. Bruce solves every riddle given. And yes a giant fireball happened because of Penguin running, hence why Bruce was trying to stop him. Kinda like the Joker chase in the Dark Knight. Also Bruce knows what the translation means and he figures out “URL”. I feel like he solved a lot of it on his own. It’s also only his second year as Batman too. But I respect your opinion, i still loved the movie regardless.
I legit took a nap in the movie and woke up feeling the same way as if I watched all 3 hours.