Canon 1ds Mark 3. Thoughts from a professional photographer in 2021
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2021
- My thoughts on the Canon 1ds Mark III DSLR camera in 2021. I have been shooting professional assignments with this camera since its launch in 2007. For the last few years it been retired and sits on the shelf in my office. In this video I show some of the photographs I have shot and give my opinion on some of the good and bad aspects of this classic camera. This camera cost over £5000 pounds when new but can now be found for as low as £350.
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I use the 1DS mark iii quite often. The advantage of this underrated camera is that you have the beautiful colours and rendering of the early 5D cameras - with their famously ‘filmic’ sensors - but in higher resolution, in an incredibly well-built professional body with dual card slots. It has the largest and brightest viewfinder I've ever seen on any camera, ergonomics are flawless, and it balances perfectly with larger L lenses. And you can buy them for next to nothing. It’s a no-brainer!
The 1Ds MkIII was the first full-frame body I bought as a second-hand body, went from a poor Canon 400D straight to the big league, what a beast of a camera, a friend of mine came out with me a few years back, and I'd borrowed a 100 - 400 mm and I did not notice, but my friend was convinced that I had changed my name to Moses, as wherever I stood with this combination, the people would just part like the Red Sea!
Haha! Yes it’s a tank that somehow demands respect especially when stuck on some big glass.. also handy for knocking muggers down with if need arises.. you ain’t getting up too quickly after a smack round the chops with a 1ds3!
@@RoyRiley if push come to shov, and you really needed a nail hammered in... it'll do 😅
Great review Roy. I finally found a mint 1 DS MK III two weeks ago after searching for a few years to upgrade from my old 1DS MK II. BY luck I found one with 1500 actuations and not a mark on it, still in original packaging with all the software and cables - all for the bargain price of 470 British pounds. I have to admit it is a big upgrade and I am more than satisfied with the camera. This should last me for the rest of my life. As an amateur, I just cant afford or justify to spend on a DX model, as fantastic as they are.
Cheers! I appreciate the feedback. Good luck with your new camera.. good find!
Loving these videos Roy, thank you for taking the time to put them together and share your thoughts.
Cheers Matt! Appreciate your comment. It’s good to know people find the content enjoyable. Hope you have a good week. R
Fab review Roy. Technology moves on so rapidly, and so does the marketing and advertising that goes with it, and the net result suddenly means older tech almost appears obsolete, but this review just proves the opposite. In some ways I feel modern cameras are packed full of features, only because the manufactures 'Can' and as it often turns out, most of the tech packed into them, never gets used. This camera was designed for the working pro, and it gives them precisely what they needed, hence why it's just as relevant now, as it was back in 2007. Great work mate, keep it up:)
Thank You Gavin! I really appreciate your comment. Tempted to shoot my next commission with this beast just to use it in anger again. Feels great to use still!
Great point Gavin, I have been using the 1 Series for 20+ years . I do not upgrade until it is absolutely needed. I still have an original 1D Classic. The camera is still capable of making beautiful images be it small files .
Excellent points and its the manufacturers drivel that means poor people like me whom can never afford a pro camera can buy a used one many years later and it will still compete with the latest new cameras for the same price. I’ve just acquired one of these for £350, looks brand new, 5000 shutter counts.
The man is easy on the eyes and has a sexy voice. He knows his camera and has found continuous value in old tech. Good job...
Very kind of you to say! Thank you for your support. RR
Brilliant video. I have compared the 1ds3 with the 1dx and 5d3, and the 1ds3 is still the best in terms of picture quality.
I Just got a 1ds mark 3 from ebay this year! its something special about how amazing this camera really is! its like the images are oozing with so much character and once you get used to it you'll never let go! thank you for the awesome review!
Thanks for this review, bought one today. Its my first full frame camera and intend to learn much as possible.
Nice! Good luck with your new camera. Best wishes to you and your family. R
@Waxel Punkt. that’s an interesting g fact about the lenses being better value for canon. I had not noticed. Well Worth considering when attempting to build a low cost system
Brilliant informative video, thanks for making the effort to share your experience with this model. Possibly my next one if my 5D Mk1 ever craps out.
Glad you enjoyed it! Still a great camera - bit chunky though if you are used to a 5d..
I find your videos very interesting and really enjoyable. I hope to see many more. Thank you.
Thanks Michael! Really appreciate your comment. I will do my best! RR
Great video. I started my 1D trip with 1D mark II when it was already cheap. Bought 7D mark II later, but missed 1D body style. 1DS III was my second from series. Absolutely great camera. Then I took a chance to upgrade to 1DX II during 2018 for half a price. I still keept my 1DS II for some years, until last year when I have sold it for solid 750 euro. This camera will always have a value. I already own mirrorless Canon, but I will keep my 1DX II forever.
I never owned this 1Ds III but shot with 7D’s, 5D’s, 1Dx, 1Dx II AND R5. I’m keeping the 1Dx II and thinking of picking this 1Ds III as well. You had used them both in the past. Do you care to share your experiences between the two and why did you sell the 1Ds III? I’m not going to sell my 1Dx II either.
Eos-1ds Mark III's CR.2 files + Capture One Pro = Pure awesomeness,
unparalleled microcontrast & detail....
Great review!
Interesting! I have not tried these files with Capture One Pro. I should give it a throw! Cheers RR
Would that stand for the 5D Classic as well?
@@gaborkiss1425 no expert with C1 I’m afraid. But I do plan to do some testing. I will do a video on it at some point
@@gaborkiss1425 Yes ! C1Pro produces superior results (vs the Adobe Engine) with most camera brands and files
,no wonder it's the software of choice in commercial advertising studios everywhere! In order to better assess the differences in file rendering etc you should be using a calibrated high-end Graphics monitor (such as an Eizo CG series or Benq sw series display) to view your files! Avoid glossy imac screens or monitors not suitable for photography....
Such a refreshing talk about the Canon 1Ds Mkiii. I have just started to get motivated to shoot again and this camera was like an old reliable friend, compared to my Nikon . I have now subscribed because your style of presentation is really cool . Cheers to a fellow Roy .
Thanks Roy! Really lovely to hear this kind of feedback - pleased you are getting back into photography. What kind of thing are you going to be shooting? My 1ds3 has been like a reliable old friend too. Never let me down. I have used quite a few Nikon’s over the years but just seem to prefer the colours with Canon. Thanks for your time and for your subscription. All the best. Roy
I've just ordered one so your video was extremely helpful.
Good luck with it Ray! May the force be with you
Thankyou for such an honest and genuine review Roy.
It does look like a wonderful, well built piece of hardware..
These cameras are beasts! If you get bored taking pictures they are great for DIY projects like banging in nails or knocking down walls
@@RoyRiley LOL!...kitchen DIY, here we come!!
Great review! I had mine since 2012, and it is still rocking, use it together with 5Dmk4, actually I sold the 5Dmk3 and keeped 1DsIII, as I found out that at iso 100 where I usually shoot, the image file was actually better then 5Dmk3. 1Ds is just epic...
Cheers! Agreed. Amazing piece of kit. Also strong and heavy enough to knock a street robber down with if need ever arose!
i have so mu ch to learn about this skill, and i just picked up a 1 D mark 3, thank you for the breakdown very well done
Love this series, thanks!
Cheers Bert! Wishing you the very best for 2022
Very nice review, spot on. Bought mine second-hand after my Nikon D700 (with lenses) and Leica X1 was stolen in Sicily.
Subbed! I just found your channel after searching for reviews on the 1d mark iii. I know they’re not the same camera but this 1ds mark iii video helped a ton in my decision making. My 1diii arrives tomorrow!!
Thanks for the sub!
The way your face lights up when you talk about this camera, makes me want to some day try one. I seem to be moving in retrograde motion with my photography, shooting vintage lenses with a 6Dmk2, and loving it. I've just ordered an original 6D, and can't wait to test it out against the mk2. I've never had any 1D series, they are too big and overkill for me, (mostly shooting street photography) but still… You only live once. Excellent breakdown... 😇
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed the video. Good luck with your cameras. Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forwards!
Another great video Roy.
Cheers!
Would love to hear the stories behind some of these shots you’ve taken with that beauty (similarly to the video about Cuba). As always, awesome vid Roy!
Cheers man. As always, I appreciate the support! R
Love that shutter sound
Excellent review video. As a long time Nikon user, but currently working with Canons, I do have to credit them with being tough as old boots, and then some, as your salty 1ds proves. Hopefully going to be working with R5 soon, though it'll be another 10years to see if it's as tough as the dslrs...
Cheers Andrew! Yes it’s a beast for sure. Will be interesting to see how the R cameras hold up over a similar period of time. Just been using the R5 and it really is an amazing camera. Will be interested to hear your thoughts if you get hold of one. All the best. Roy
Very nice review. I recently bought a 1DS3 in good condition for 290€. Also a Zeiss Planar 85 f1.4 for 280€. I had for a long time a 17-40 f4 L USM for architecture, plus a 50 f2.5 macro. The whole set is gorgeous, I love it. Many people obeying marketing orders to migrate to mirrorless almost give you stunning DSLR gear, it is like christmas time all year long.
I just discovered your channel. You're awesome. You're speaking with hearth. Thanks !
Cheers Jonathan. Much appreciated. RR
@@RoyRiley i just bought a 1DX today.
I don’t have the chance to find a 1DS 3 but i now understand the 1D philosophy.
Thanks R.R.
I bought one a few months ago with less than 1500 shutter actuations. Still under 1800 its fun to use. You have to think a little more, but the results are great. And I shoot with a Sony A7RIII and a canon R6. I actually had a 1DX and sold it to get the 1DSiii. For some reason the 1DX had weird colors that I didn't really care for.
Thanks for your comment. Interesting about the 1Dx colour. Good luck with your photography moving. All the best. Roy
Love your comment… I can’t afford the DX but you recommend it for pictures only
I have one being delivered in a couple of days and after watching your video, can’t wait to try it out. Got it on EBay for $770 and the owner claims less than 3000 shutter actuations, so I’m thinking I have a bargain.
Also have a replacement 100-400 L series coming for it (drowned the last one) so I’m going to be a busy fella for a while.
Your review has made me more confident about my purchase too. Not much more complicated than the 50D that I have now,but much more capable than it.
Thanks again
Sounds like a good deal! Wishing you every success with your new gear. R
Two years since you've made this video. I use to be a professional photographer but got out of it about 6 or 7 years ago. My youngest daughter is graduating this year from high school and I'm going to be doing her senior photos. I own this camera and have had it for over 10 years and it's been a workhorse. Yes, not really a sports camera but I had other bodies for that type of shooting.
Out of the 4 or 5 bodies that I still own (all newer than the 1DS) I decided to use the 1DS MKiii. It's true what you said about, it's hard to articulate the quality or feel of the photos that come from this body. Like you, I don't think I'll ever get rid of it. It's been stored for over 4 years and I charged the batteries and attached a lens and it works flawlessly. They don't made them like this anymore. Great overview on this classic body. If there was a camera hall of fame, this one should be in there.
Thanks for this and well done to you for raising daughters! I have two myself so know the challenges. All the best. RR
Thank you for the video.
Had I been an indoor photographer; I would definitely get it. By default, I'm an old gear lover. Likewise, I own its brother 1D Mark IV that I use for wildlife photography with profound joy. The supporting camera for this purpose is 7D. My landscape and street photography cameras are 5D Classic and 5DII.
Nice set ups! Great set of cameras.
thank you for the great review, ive always dreamt of getting a 1ds and really could not justify the price of a 1dx (which I only really wanted for the faster/better autofocus)and you have helped me to be glad I stuck to my decision to get a 1ds mark 3.
Thanks Ian! The 1Ds mark 3 is an absolute cracker of a camera!
@@RoyRiley ive just unpacked mine and even just holding it/having the first plays with it , I can tell its tons better than the 5d mark 1 I have taken all over the world and can't wait to get to use it properly:)
@@iancloete8540 good luck with it! Hope all your dreams come true. RR
Thank you, Roy! Very interesting and helpful!
No worries! Glad you enjoyed it. Where in the world are you watching? RR
@@RoyRiley Moscow, Russia)
Never had "1ds" mkIII, but I owned "1ds" (had lots of troubles, but loved that camera), and now I thought - why not get one of mkIII. Especially they much cheaper nowadays)
Give it a try, may be just for enjoyment, or as second\spare camera - Im still in love with sturdiness of original 1ds, low input (shutter) lag and sense of beautiful tool for a job)
-- Blissful sense of _TAKING_ PICTURE)
So, you got me thinking...)
For me it's all pros and not many cons... May be worrying a little about auto-focus, and tether-shooting or can it be every day carry?.. May be little more about spare-parts.
But for a price... - may be just simply give it a go)
Cheers, and thanks again!)
@@photography_night_school thank you 🙏 I think the feel of a camera is very important and how it makes us feel. You explain it very well. Hoping life is good for you in Moscow. RR
I have to say that I really enjoyed your review of the Canon 1Ds MK III , Roy. You have a new subscriber. The reason I was looking for such reviews is that a friend of mine has just bought one of these cameras for £150 online. I have no idea what condition my friend's camera will be in but it will be interesting to see what sort of images it will produce. He has spent the last few years shooting on a Canon 20D so this will be a huge upgrade for him.
Such amazing value! In all good faith I cannot think of one good reason not to buy at that price. They are a big heavy lump by todays standards but these cameras still feel great in the hand. I’ve still got PTSD from dropping 5k of credit card debt on this thing only a few years ago
Very nice video Roy. I’m seriously thinking about having this camera, to try something new, to keep on having fun while walking in different places to seek for the nice place to shoot. I’ve been using Nikon for years (D700, D3, D7500 among others…). Oldie but goldie as we say. Your enthusiasm might be contagious. Thanks anyway for sharing your thoughts.
Thank you! What a camera the D3 is though.. and the D700.. never used the 7500 so cannot comment. Good luck with it all. R
Yes! I am currently a D3S, D3S, D700 shooter (& I love them), but I feel an urge to try a 1DS3 now. 😊
Subscribed, great videos Roy, I've been buying some old Canon pro cameras dirt cheap but in mint condition, so far have 2 Canon 1d Mark ii N bodies with less than 20k clicks, liking the look of this 1ds Mark iii I think it's next on the shopping list, a handful of L glass and I'll be sorted, amazing images still to be had even at 8mp so the ds should be great for my needs.
Thanks Dan! Appreciate your feedback. I never had the mark II N but interested to have a go with one. Will keep my eyes open if one comes up at a good price. All the best. RR
This video just came back up in my RUclips feed, Thought I'd take the time to post an update, I got a 1DS Mark iii after watching your video and it's an amazing camera for the money. Paired it with an EF 80-200 F2.8L and it's pin sharp. Only negatives, the rear LCD screen isn't the best compared to modern cameras but it's clear and bright. The buffer is pants if shooting raw but as you said in this video, learn to time your shots rather than rattling off dozens of frames. I think it's a great tool to go back and re-learn the art of photography rather than relying on modern tech to do it all for you. Nice to re-watch this video again. @@RoyRiley
i m lucky to have this 1ds3, i bought mine in 2013,i had 5dmark 2, the mark 3 then i bought the 1dx, more modern. the 1ds3, has, by far, the best image quality, the colors, especially in portrait, and the sharpness, are insane. in fine details, like hairs of a model, you can see huge differences with other cameras. i don t know if it s about low pass filters but that old 20 mpx sensors looks like a 40 mpx with a good lens. And the dynamic range at low iso in crazy. I can sell my 1dx but i ll never sell my 1ds3. and that shutter sound, omg that shutter sound
Thanks for this. Very interesting points and I totally agree about the sound. Awesome camera!
I bought 1ds mkiii in 2022, and I like it. In competition of my 550d is the monter in great sense. My next target is L lenses.
I've had mine since 2010. Extremely happy with it!
Nice! Batteries still holding up?
@@RoyRiley Battery about due for a change.
I bought one of these in 2022 cost £290 with 60,000 shutter count, I have had great results photographing moving aircraft with a 24/105 canon lens, great results, yes it’s s bit antiquated but it just does the job
Easy to use, my go to camera
Well I’ve had my 1Ds 5yrs now and love it my nex camera 1Dxmiii I just love the big body Thank you sir..
There is something about the chunky 1 series that inspires such confidence. Glad you have found your groove. R
Hey I love it. Instead of constantly hearing of what you don't have, there is someone speaking on what he has, and what the rearl benefits are, really good. Roland
glad you found value in the video Roland.. sticking with what we have and learning to make the most of it is rather important sometimes
just got one for EUR 10.-- (should broken) in a prof. camera store?!?! It's still alive now wit a new battery... - Still fresh and fast (compare to my new Fujis)- after using min. 25 Canon bodys in my career. I'm happy to be back :-) Great videos and work 👏👏
I had this model since 2011. It's bloody brilliant.
Agreed Tommy! What a machine
I grew up with 35mm film then transitioned to digital. The 1ds mk3 was a dream camera until I found one a few weeks ago for just over £500 with battery and charger and only 2000 actuations, it's mint and not a mark on it. My planned use is for landscape but having used older camera's for most everything else from still life to sports I am pretty confident that my new besty will cope fine. Thanks very much for posting your insights from the professional point of view. It's easy to start thinking I made a mistake when I see people raging about how superior more recent cameras are but like you observed the 1ds can output files that can be printed at billboard size and still look good from close to.
My own opinion is that if the camera can print for a typical photo exhibition where the photo's will be viewed from a sensible distance, ie not right up close with a magnifying glass, and look fine, then there is no downside to what might be the smaller files from the 1ds mk3.
Good luck with it! You have made a wise choice! RR
Great video, tried the R6 for a few days and did not like the electronic viewfinder, the viewfinder is so important sounds like the 1ds mk3 has a good one
I haven't tried some of the most recent canon cameras but as far as dslr goes, it is the best camera canon had ever produced. 5Ds may have more detail but having a 15yo dinosaur that edits so well with 5D4 or 5Ds side by side is amazing. You can easily shoot mid-size campaigns on it day by day in 2022.
and quite handy for knocking muggers out with if need arise..
What a brilliant and honest review Roy. I don't own one, but I would love to own one. I have a 5D mark ii. As you said, the image straight out of the camera is beautiful. I am just a hobbyist, but enjoy taking photos very much. It is great to hear that you would use it tomorrow for a professional shoot if you had to. When you say dual card slot, is that 2 CF cards? Anyway, one day if I find a half decent one for not too much money, I would be very much tempted after seeing this video. Thanks. 😊
Cheers! One CF card and one SD card slot. Nice and easy!
@@RoyRiley Thank you Roy.
Great video, I love the 1D Series, those cameras are built to last, it can take a licking and keep on ticking. I have a 1D Classic, every once in a while I pull it out a make a few images with it.
Nice! You can knock a gear thief out with it and barely miss a frame!
@@RoyRiley yes, as an ole retired cop I can replace one of my camera bodies as a replacement tool on my gun belt.
Great video thanks Roy. I still have three of these ‘beasts’ and will not part with them ever. I have bought a 1Dx Mark II but still use these bodies from time to time as second or even third bodies. I bought the third one a year ago on eBay as it only had 15 000 actuations was in mint condition for only £400. It has become ‘my precious’ (Gollum voice).
Nice collection of proper cameras! Nothing compares to these big old beast.. back in the time when surfboards were made from wood and men were made of iron.. ( I’m a surfer.. quote from Big Wednesday!)
Love this video!
Ive used 1ds mk2, loved that! Also used 5d mk2 but love the 1ds image more
Thank you! Yes the image from the 1Ds is very very nice.
@@RoyRiley … would it be good for sports
@@ADivaForLife What sports do you mostly shoot?? what lenses will you be using?? And what is your intended purpose of use for the final images? With these answers I can give a more accurate response. Many thanks. Roy
@@RoyRiley .. I shoot football, basketball, baseball and track😄
@@ADivaForLife I have used the 1ds mark 3 for shooting most sports. and it is certainly capable of producing amazing results, However for the sports you mention I personally would prefer a crop sensor camera that would give a bit more reach, also likely a faster burst rate and maybe faster AF. The Canon 80 or 90D, 7d mk1 or 2 and 1Dx might be worth a look. Hope this helps. Roy
Great video on an amazing camera. I'm just looking at these 2nd hand and cannot believe what you get for the money. Very tempting 🤔
Cheers man. I still struggle to get my head around how much some cameras depreciate just because they are a few years old. Good luck which ever way you go. Roy
@@RoyRiley I've got a Canon 10D which cost me £1100 new, the CF card was nearly £200 for a 1 or 2GB i can't quite remember. The 10D now worth £50?? Crazy.
@@timcam8713 haha! Yes. I had the 10d too! Really was a great camera in its day. I still have work in my portfolio shot on that camera
I really like your "vintage" camera reviews. They confirm what a lot of us know that, for most amateurs, there are no excuses now.
Cameras have been good enough for 10 years, and probably better than most photographers can make full use of. I mean, a Canon 6D and a 50mm f/1.8 is less than £500!!!! (add a 24-105mm f/4 IS USM for £400).
There's never been such amazing value around on the used sites.
The "Mirrorless revolution" is going to throw up thousands of bargains. The Canon 7D is £240 !!!!! (I remember when that was the Wildlife camera of choice).
Great cameras don't become bad cameras.
Completely agree that the file is great out of the box.
So much better than many of the newer cameras!
My 1DMK2 (used for wildlife) was $4000, my 1DsMK3 (portraits/Landscapes) was $9000 … Yep. It still works great. Nice video!
Nice set up!
Roy, would you mind doing a video on your Lightroom edits? That would be awesome. Another fantastic video my friend. We are blessed to have found your channel 🙂
Thank you! Kind words. Means a lot! Do you mean how I use Lightroom to edit my pictures?
@@RoyRiley yep! 🙂
Helpful to me. I’m going to buy one.
Not sure how well these cameras are supported these days by Canon if anything ever needs repairing. Might be worth checking. Good luck whichever way you go. RR
I've just acquired a 1ds with a 100x400mm lens.
And can't wait to start getting some great images with it.
Nice set up! Very capable
@@RoyRiley I'm hoping that I have the capability to capture some great images and think that the initial investment will be worth every penny in the long term. 🤙
Excellent review. I know I’m late to the party but I just now purchased the 1Ds mkiii, I shoot skateboarding and use manual focus 95% of the time so this camera is just fine, plus it can take a beating. I upgraded (loose terminology) from the 80d because I needed dual card slots and I don’t need to shoot video. So far I’m elated with this camera.
Nice! Good luck with it. RR
@@RoyRiley thank you, your photos are amazing, do you have an Instagram?
@@xxxxxxxxxx9188 I am a reluctant instagrammer! roy_riley
@@RoyRiley I just messaged you on Instagram
Just dug my one of these out for first time in years. I'd forgotten how lovely the photos are, esp. portraits. There's something film like about them. Not as clinical as modern digital cameras. Do I mean softer? Not really. Smoother, perhaps. Also, I love the simplicity. I had the camera set up and was shooting with it in minutes. And the weight damps my familial tremor nicely. Will be using it much more often.
Nice one! It’s like revisiting an old pair of slippers.. seems to fit rather comfortably. I agree regarding the clinical nature of new cameras. It’s hard to put your finger on exactly but it does exist! All the best. RR
Great video
Cheers! I really appreciate hearing positive feedback. What other kind of videos would you like to see? All the best. Roy
Just a quick comment to say fantastic content
Fantestic photos.
I still have my old 1Ds2. I used it for wedding and studio. It was state of the art then. My biggest problem is not the resolution, but the dust spots. It is pain in the ass. I agree with you, photo produced by old 5D and 1Ds2 are special, just can’t explain it.
Agreed! The 1Ds2 was a huge dust monster. Lots of my grey hair is due to that camera and it’s dust issues! Big blue skies and a wide angle lens Still makes me feel anxious!
Look at the old Kodak Kodachrome photos and the Canon 5D classic, they are as close as digital can get to the Kodachrome in my opinion.
@@johnstephenson7620 Sensor was made in joint development with Kodak. :)
I just did a RL shoot and the Editor said my god the images are what I remember from RL back in time...... Amazing he said..... and guess what, I used my 1DS MK III ..... I also used a Canon D1X MK III and a Canon 5DSR and he loved the 1DS MK III images !!!!!!
That’s an interesting story! Great sensor..
Thanks ❤️ my first camera i buy for 300 £ mint condition. Am so lucky 👌 i like original natural colour from this camera picture.
Good luck with it! RR
Great review, I actually have a 1dsmk3 and there is definitely something about the images it produces. My canon 5dsr feels to clinical in comparison even though it is newer technology. I have subsequently bought a hasselblad H2 with a phase one p45+ back and the CCD sensor again has something about it which the canon 5dsr can’t match
Interesting stuff! I have not used the 5dsr extensively but keep looking at them second hand because the prices are so good and on paper at least they look epic. Would love to get my hands on some second hand medium format kit… keeping my eyes open on eBay!
@@RoyRiley Ebay is a great source, I got my 1DSMK3 and hasselblad from there and all for a good price. Having shot with a hasselblad 503cx, I like manual and keeping it basic.
Authentic and sincere.
Cheers! Appreciate your comment. RR
..... oh yes... the portrait of Sir Ranulph Fiennes is FANTASTIC.
Thanks Go Humberto! Apologies for not replying lately. Been rather busy with the rich tapestry of life. Appreciate your comments though.. good luck with the 1d mkIIn. Always a classic!
I still love my 1dsiii & 5d classic
Nice set up!
Enjoyed your video and comments very much, particularly as I have just picked up a mint 1Ds III with only 328 (not a typo) shots for A$474. It does have a slightly dicky shutter, which I will be able to work with and am hopeful that with some use it may correct itself. However, it's not my only camera, so it's not a problem.
Great photographs!
Thanks Hippo!
Hey Roy, enjoyed seeing your vids on this and the 5D II. I transitioned out of pro photography when the original 1DS was released (twilight of film career). I remember first using it and feeling a touch nervous about dropping a $10K+ camera setup in the early 2Ks. But I digress. I've read a lot of debate (from both sides) about the look of images out of the older cameras vs. new; you alluded briefly to it in the 5D2 vid. So (he he) the question is ... is this "look" being nostalgic in your opinion, or is there really something about those old cameras that the new cameras lack? I've been dealing with a GAS-induced nostalgia kick and have been looking at the original 1DS (since I used it briefly), the 5D classic, and more recently, the 1Ds II and III, along with the 5D2. Seems there's debate about the look between the 5D Classic and Mark II, where there are those who prefer the classic. So I'm curious about your perspective, since you currently have both, the 1Ds3 and 5D2, and used the 1Ds2. I still have an old Rebel Xt with the 8 meg sensor, which I'm guessing is around the 5D classic timeframe. I'd think the sensor technology is about the same, albeit the cropped size for the Xt. Anyway, would enjoy hearing your opinion RE the nostalgia vs. something special debate.
Very interesting question! Honestly I think it is all down to personal preference. Just because a certain camera is widely considered to have "a good look or feel" does not mean that everyone will like the image from it. Nor should they! I have had certain cameras over the years that I simply like the image straight out of the camera, explaining why is tricky.. it just looks good to my eye. Other cameras I am not so fond of the straight out of camera image but in post production the RAW files they produce will often produce amazing results. In summary I do not think there is any right answer. You just have to find and use what is right for you and your own unique visual preference. Hope this helps in some way! Good luck whichever way you go. All the best. Roy
Amazing photos. The used market really is an embarrassment of riches these days. I judge cameras by the sensor, and obviously the 1DS has a beautiful one. I'm hoping the R6 will prove as beautiful as the 6D which I love (the R6 is the 1DX III sensor).
We certainly have lots of choice these days. Interesting about the R6 sharing a sensor with the 1dx3. I’m still getting to grips with the sensor on the R5. Time will tell! RR
Great video and camera body, literally just won one on ebay lunchtime today for £256 plus postage, hopefully the seller won’t back out!
what a bargain! Hope it all works out for you. All the best. Roy
@@RoyRiley Thanks, bought one around 3 years ago and it was £600 ish, do love the 1Ds bodies.
@@HorseRadish138 really there is still nothing that comes close in terms of a rugged camera that you could knock a mugger down with! Maybe the Nikon D3?
It's a great camera. The big thing is that it is an all-weather camera and it is engineered for 100s of thousands of actuations. The Canon 1 series are used by the guys that shoot sports in all kinds of nasty weather. Their paycheck depends of getting the job done so they buy these cameras. I have found it delivers darn good dynamic range. So you can use it in all kinds of situations and out in the rugged wilderness.
Bang on George. The thing I love about the 1D series is that if anyone tries to steal your camera gear you can use it like a club and then just carry on shooting..
It's a "if only this camera could talk" type of story that's quite heart warming. I'm hoping in 5 or so years I can post something like this.
Yes! I build these weird relationships with my cameras. I know it’s a bit odd but they are the tools of the trade and trusty companions on my travels and adventures. They also pay the bills! Good luck with your journey. RR
Excellent review Roy! +1 and subscribed. Your energy, passion and enthousiasm is very invigorating (to coin a rare but nice English word) for us nostalgic fans of the old 1Ds III camera.
Q1. What would you advise us to choose as color profile setting for portraiture on the 1Ds III in daylight natural light?
Q2. Would you advise ISO 50 or ISO 100 for best skin tones in daylight natural light using fast Canon lenses?
Q3. What Canon or Zeiss EF mount prime lenses would you recommend to couple with the 1Ds III for everyday portraiture?
Thank you for your lovely and most intelligent comment. I am away on assignment at the moment but will answer you at the earliest opportunity. Soon. RR
So my answers might be slightly less interesting than you may have hoped! In terms of profiles I tend to keep everything standard and shoot in RAW and then apply whatever I need at the editing stage. Others will swear by profiles at a capture stage but I stick with standard. Works for me.
I tend to use 100iso as my lowest speed unless there is a specific need for slower (like obtaining blur or movement… I cannot remember exactly who I do this but I believe there were maybe some quality issues with the lowest iso option on early digital cameras and it may have stuck somewhere! Old habits die hard.
My main lenses are the Canon L Zooms. I shoot such a variety of work that zooms have always given me the most flexibility even though ultimately I would love to shoot just primes. I have never used a Zeiss lens on a canon camera.. only because I have always stuck with canon glass and it’s always served me well.. not to say Zeiss is not amazing.. I have owned and used many of the canon primes and mostly they have all been very good once calibrated. Favourites for portraits would have to be the 50mm and 85mm F1.8 versions of both are good value and have great images quality.
@@RoyRiley Thanks alot for your reply Roy! Interesting comment about the native ISO! I will investigate that further, and settle for either 100, 50 or 200, once I find out what the 1Ds III's native sensor ISO is.
PS. We would love to see a followup video on a more general talk about professional client relation stories.
How some work came to be, how things can (or almost went) wrong and what can be learned, and what type of work you would still dream of doing some day in the future.
I am sure more many other folks here would love that from you! :)
@@RoyRiley If you shoot at ISO 50, camera actually shoots at 100 and darkens the image. So you don't want to shoot at 50 if there are any highlights in the scene, since they will be clipped, even if exposure is correct otherwise. Shadows will have more information though, but personally i haven't seen much difference, and you want to avoid recovering shadows on such old sensor, since they will be noisy almost immediately, even at ISO 50.
@@RedBagMods thanks! Much appreciated. I tend to avoid the “extended” zones of iso range ( typically low and very high) they always seems to push IQ too much. Having said that I have made use of iso 50 if I need a lower shutter speed for whatever reason. Extra blur.. creativity etc
Классная камера... До сих пор считаю, что этот аппарат один из лучших, что получился у Кенон.
I have a 1ds3 and a a 1dX....Still use them all the time, even though I have many, many, too many, newer cameras
Both very amazing cameras.
Hi Roy, I'm a content creator and I really enjoyed this video, Thanks so much for your opinion - I will be checking out your other stuff.
Thank You!
I own a 1ds m III and still love it . You mentioned slow auto focus ? You must of meant slow shots per second, because I find the auto focus super fast and accurate on the 1DS mark III . Great video tho 👍
Love mine too! When the opportunity presents I will attempt to do an unscientific AF test with the ds3 against a couple of other cameras in a fast paced environment. What do you think would be a fair comparison? Dog running towards camera on beach? Ballroom dancing? Rugby match? I think the AF is fast but maybe not quite as rapid as later cameras but we will see! I guess it ultimately comes down to individual users, what they shoot, the lenses they shoot with and their individual skill. Im pretty sure a good photographer with a ds3 would shoot rings around most other people packing all the latest gear!
Update... you are costing me money!!! I just bought a Canon 1D mk2 N (a 1.3x crop sensor, APS-H). Excellent condition for €239 !!! That's a drop of €4,261 since it was launched.
I figure that great cameras don't stop being great just because new tech comes along. Most pro photographers at the 2004 Athens Olympics used the 1D mk2 (apparently).
Thats a nice camera 😊
@@galacticmex where did you find a 1d classic? I can't find one anywhere and I have been searching.
While it was a top of the line camera, in its day, there are many cameras, now, that are better in all areas.
I'm really taken with your account of the 1DS mk3 . I've thought about buying a Canon to play with, but I'm not a Canon guy so the idea of a 1DS has never previously occurred to me. I looks like a great choice for a cheapskate portrait shooter. I currently have a Nikon D3X from the same 2008 era and I like that for studio & strobe - so this Canon would be really interesting to compare.
Just bought a nice looking, boxed 1ds 3 from LCE. The don't know the shutter count, but it was owned from new by an amateur, so it sounds like a nice one. Can't wait for it to arrive!
it would be interesting to see how it stacks up against your D3x. I really wanted a D3 when they first came out but the opportunity never arose.. I should look for one now because I would imagine there are a few bargains around. Hey, Good luck with your new camera man.. Hope it goes well for you. RR
@@RoyRiley I bought a nice 80K D3 for £349 last year (I was amazed that it was the same price as D700 bodies with only slightly lower shutter counts.)
@@Cotictimmy back when the D3 launched Nikon sent me a big box full of all their new stuff to try out. I utterly loved it but had just spent a fortune on canon gear so had to send it all back.. somewhere in my heart there is unfinished business with the D3
Great video, I'm on a very tight budget and have found one of these, in good condition and low shutter count. I'm new ISH to photography and love to do product photography and a few head shots and currently using a canon m3. Would this be any good to replace the little M3
Would be a big jump up in terms of size and might be a slight jump back in terms of userbility. These 1d cameras are beasts and would most likely require new lenses. I would maybe suggest looking at something like the 60, 70 or 80d but f you wish for the DSLR style camera. That said the 1ds mark 3 is an amazing camera and will create beautiful photographs if that’s the way you go. Good luck with it all. R
@@RoyRiley thanks for the reply, I have quite a few EF mount Len's already as I use them on my blackmagic cinema camera. And also on the M3 using an adaptor.
The 70d is also in my scope it's a hard toss up between the two really, to be honest I just want something that will take a nice sharp image and last me until I have finished university and can get earning some better money.
Are you able to say which files you prefered, the 1Ds Mark II or the Mark III?
Totally agree with what you say about older cameras files having a certain quality to them, I loved my old 5D Mark 1 for this very reason, but have an urge to get a 1Ds II or III for purely personal use. The lens calibration thing you mention is a big concern to me on the Mark II, as I plan to use it with fast glass, but Im unsure if I dont prefer the files from the older Mk II and 5D etc?
1Ds mark 3 for me, every time over the 1Ds mark 2. Pretty much everything is better
@@RoyRiley Thanks mate, really appreciate your video and reply to my comment :)
I guess the Mk3 is just much more usable, with the joystick AF select, AF microadjust, bigger screen and dust removal like you say.
In terms of AF, are they pretty much the same?
@@NickEnglishPhotography1 I believe the mk3 has very slightly better AF.
Roy, my favourite set up, 1ds mkiii and 135mm L f2
I have always wanted to own that 135F2 it’s an amazing lens! Good combo!
Hi Roy, hope you're well, wondering what your thoughts are on the Canon 24-70 L mk 2 lens, cheers buddy
@@Peterbenham56 Hi Peter. I had the MK1 version for years and it was always a good lens. Always sharp and consistent. Always liked the images it produced. I believe the Mk2 to be at least as good if not better then the MK1. Mine got wrecked by an airline company and these days I use the 24-105 F4 which in many ways is much more flexible option because of the extra reach and IS. I do not think you will go far wrong with any of the lenses mentioned here. However I would recommend testing to make sure you have a good version.
@@RoyRiley Roy, many thanks for your reply, keep safe and keep well, keep working
Not sure which one to get now after watching your video. either the 1DS lll or 1DX. The 1DX cost little bit more. 🤔
Hmmmm. Good question! Not sure which one I would choose either I’m afraid!
Nice one keep doing it, I'm a professional I base in Nigeria I need you to tell me more about Canon 1D series thanks
Robust, heavy, simple, reliable. Highly capable and very good value but starting my to feel rather old when compared to modern mirrorless. Very much depends what you are shooting. A good photographer will take great pictures for many years with these cameras and no one will know or care what camera they are shot on
£5,000, you were lucky! My 1D cost that, but my previous camera, which I was almost forced to buy [long and painful story] cost £10,500, a while ago I admit, 2000 and, wait for it, 2.1mp! As a professional motorsport photographer I could see the benefits, but the PCMCIA cards were huge, and not very much capacity, 256mb, but it was only a 2mp sensor. I was still using my 1Ds in 2010, when I was mentoring and recommended a 5D3. After a week I decided to upgrade myself. I know what you mean about theft, I had all my kit[other than what I had with me on that day] stolen. Everything from a T90 to an EOS 1n and a lot of digital, not to mention my 85 f1.2 etc. Oh, and an XL2 video. I still think about the history I lost. Anyway, I was tempted to get a s/h 1Ds3, only I have far too many bodies as it is.
Great story BB! Yup. I had those ten grand cameras back in the day. Fortunately not paid for by me! I seem to remember wrecking one somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic. Definitely not waterproof..
@@RoyRiley I used to play on the water once, trying to get in Ken Beken's' shots, only he had a better boat. I drowned a Canon F1, T90, 200mm lens etc, then in the Solent, chasing a 3/4 ton yacht a Mamiya 645, those were the days.
@@blisteringbooks2428 Haha! Sounds like fun! Yes I used to cover Cowes week quite often so spent plenty of time on the Solent over the years.. we probably shared a camera boat at some point
Roy I just got my Canon 1DS mark 3 Could you start me off with some of your settings your ISO shatterSpeed and aperture readingsI sure would appreciate some help from you.
Hi Don. To be honest all of these settings need to be adjusted according to the available light and the type of photograph you are trying to achieve. I do t want to mislead you by giving you
My settings as they will be different for every situation. Hope that makes sense
Hey roy if someone wanted to start sport photography professionally would two bodys in good shape for 600 with batterys and extras a good deal
Well. These are great cameras IF you understand the nature of the beast! Slower, heavier, bigger, slower, HEAVY, SLOW. Not great in low light. SLOW! But full frame and still capable and that sounds like a reasonable price for two in good order. Not sure if Canon still service or repair this body so worth checking. I used this camera for sports back in the day but these days… I don’t know man.. there are so many well priced faster smaller more efficient cameras out there and the competition in sports in fierce. You have to be able to out shoot the human next to you at an event.. tricky when they are armed to the teeth with R3 cameras.. don’t mean to put you off but worth considering at least… when you shoot professionally you need the right tool for the job. Hope this helps. RR
I got one at my local camera shop with only 8500 shutter which was crazy.
Amazing! Sounds like you got a really good example. RR
I just bought a "Good" condition Canon 1DS Mark III which I am waiting for to be delivered for 279 USD or around 213 pounds. because I beat up my entry level DSLR (Rebel 3Ti) while photographing sports and wildlife. Most of the lens I use on the 3Ti were film camera lens.
Nice! Sounds like a good deal…Wish you every success with it! Spend the time before it arrives doing some back strengthening exercises.. it’s a bit heavier than a rebel! Let me know how you get on
@@RoyRiley is there a limit on size for the CF cards? I have read for SDHC the limit is 32GB (maybe the larger cards like 64GB are SDXC ) but I can't find anything about a size limit on an CF card. The weight of this camera reminds me of the weight of some of my film cameras like TLR cameras
If you want more megapixels more resolution from your camera then it has , there are ways to do it , as long as it is not a moving subject . Just saying . Or increasing your DR , or decreasing your noise . It all can be done , as long as it is stationary target . Or at least a slow moving one .
Thanks PP.To be honest lack of resolution has not really ever been a problem with this camera for me anyway. Interested in what you mean though?? Maybe you are referencing techniques to blend a number of exposures together to remove noise or add detail and resolution?? I have used this a number if times over the years and it’s a good strategy but like you say only when things are rather static! There is also the means in photoshop or similar to interpolate the image to add data to make it bigger in size for when we only have one frame if that is the desired outcome. To be fair to the 1Ds cameras though I don’t think I have ever had much need to use any of these techniques as it’s native resolution is actually very good, even for a camera if this age.
@@RoyRiley Yes , of course , i run 5D it has 13Mpix, plenty enough . Im just saying if there is a need for more pixels , there are ways to achieve it .
Things like Mosaic , Dithering , Stacking and others , im referring to that , if need arises .
@@dedskin1 Never heard of Dithering before! But i do like the sound of it! Spend a lot of time dithering about what camera to buy next! I will look it up.. Thanks for your interesting comment. R
@@RoyRiley Its a pretty specialized technique , but Google Pixel phones use it for example . You take 4 picture but between each exposure you move the sensor 3-4 pixels to one side .
and then you align and combine those 4 photos , what happens is that your Sensor Noise gets Blurred because your picture moves across the sensor , so that dead pixel for example is not in the same place , it moves , but your picture doesn't because you aligned it .
And that way you blur dead pixels , and everything else that is not a picture .
That is called Dithering
@@dedskin1 thank you! I have used this technique but did not know the official name! Very effective
Wouldn’t b using in studio, just out & about w/ birds, macro, landscape. Weight is a concern as I can only use one arm. But arm & I wrestle enuf w/ tripod. The birds are saying get a kick hearing me curse. The burst rate on canon &0d doesn’t appeal 2 me as it it only 10 shots. Not enuf indeed as buffer takes long time to clear.
It’s heavy one handed! That’s for sure! Sounds like you do very well though!
Hi is this camera suitable for wedding photography
Yes. But more modern cameras will have more flexibility. Professional Wedding photography is all about making sure you make the absolute most photographically of someone most important day. It is up to each photographer to make sure they have the right tools for the job.
So these cameras where not so weather resistant?
Well they certainly had weather sealing and mine survived many years of extreme punishment. But everything has limits. I would say they are roughly the same as most other pro level cameras. maybe weather sealing has got better in recent years but then so has the complexity of cameras and the sheer number of moving parts and extra buttons.. all this can play a part. If I had to go round the world on a sailing boat with an R5 and a 1Ds mark 3.. my money would be on the 1ds3 lasting longer than the R5.. my opinion only and i would happily be proved wrong! Hope I am proved wrong because I shoot with the R5 these days!
How can I get the best out of my Canon EOS 1D? Thank you
Not sure exactly what you mean and I have not used the 1D personally but here are some guideline to follow..1.Understand the basics of photography. 2 Learn to use the camera, 3. stick some half decent glass on the front, 4.find something interesting to photograph, 5.learn to process the pictures. 6. make a print. 7. Go for 5 pints and a packet of ready salted. 8 repeat
@@RoyRiley thank you for replying I took what I thought were some excellent pics at Wimbledon last year and the commonwealth games but when I print them they aren’t as sharp as they look on the screen
@@RoyRiley I have a Sigma 300mm f2.8 which I’m guessing isn’t as sharp as the canon one I’m sure! I also notice I lose so much speed and light unless massively bright during summer sun! If I push iso I get detail wash! Is it the lower megapixel as the is the Canon Eos 1D 8.2 ? Thank you
Probably a mixture, the lens might be a bit soft, the camera is knocking on a bit now and the low res and ISO capability will show by todays standards. especially in darker conditions..Also printing is an art by itself and can expose weakness in all the above areas. Sometimes a whack load of sharpening needs to added to get a decent print.. sometimes not so much. sometimes getting a decent print is harder than most people imagine@@codenamegrimlock7510