i served on the Broadsword, Did the Armilla patrol in the Persian gulf, best class of vessel in the navy at that time. very quick for there size, reliable and well built. compared to other ships like leander class and Amazon the 22's were like a hotel. I remember a funny event, i was a chef on F88, we were at sea and some guy from the op's room came down to the galley and started questioning me about the potato peeling machine and what times i use it and for how long, I was bemused by the strange questions but it turned out that every time i turned the potato peeler on it was setting off alarms in the ops room as it was registering the same frequency as the motor of an incoming torpedo. At the time the ship was testing out a new sonar from Marconi and it didnt like my spud peeler.
Just 30 seconds in and I want to say you’ve seriously improved your narrating! Much easier to understand. Really appreciate the effort you’ve put into that, thanks captain.
These were such handsome ships, thanks for the videos, I really enjoy this series. I so appreciate hearing a human voice, even with the odd idiosyncrasy. Much better than the usual computer!
Served on 'Battleaxe 82-84 3GP , AB(M) ....in 'ruffers' the canteen flat was a great place to fly , if you timed your jump right you could jettison yourself from the hatch combing by the canteen shutters through to the 'forrd heads grating! Such was the height of the deckheads . The quarterdeck was a fine place for contempation and mailey writing especialy when the mighty Olympuses were wound up . The extra space unfortunately led to endless scrubbing out and during store ship the vertiflow system failed , constantly! Manked , moaned & loafed for the vast majority of my time , indispersed with some great runs ashore . Proud to have served as a batch 1 T22'er !
Have bin aboard once when the ship attended at the Dutch Naval days. The ship has a role in the Tom Clancy novel Red storm rising aside with the USS Reuben James.
@@UncleMisu Intretinute si cu un echipament mai nou + armament si rachete ghidate, si iese ceva frumos !Neaparat trebuiesc reconditionate mai rapid si sa ne vina si cele 4 corvete de la francezi de ultima generatie si suntem si noi " cineva" in Marea Neagra, mai ales acum cand avem nevoie cel mai mult de ele !
The 4 batch 4s definitely still had a lot to give, as command ships and power projection assets given their size but the two gws-25 launchers clearly needed an upgrade or replacement with a 6.5km range compared to 10km for vl sea wolf. Not sure a vl sea wolf refit would have been practical, possible or approriate but holding out for sea ceptor might have been great, especially for the exls launcher which would be a perfect solution rather than mushroom launchers
The Type 22's bucked the trend in having plenty of room for upgrades compared to say a Type 21, but they were Heavy on Fuel and Manpower,yes you could probably put Artisan and Sea Ceptor on them but would the expense have been worth it in the end ?.Fine Looking Ships nonetheless .
@@TheShipYard2 Well, your loss for our gain I'd say 😊 The pair serving in the Romanian navy made quite an impression in the Black Sea, so I reckon this deal had some strategic reasoning behind it as well considering who else is sailing big ships around here 😉 BTW good job with the name pronunciation (almost perfect for Regina Maria and acceptable for Regele Ferdinand). If you're wondering, these were the Romanian king & queen who lead the country through the first world war and managed to take Transylvania back from Austria-Hungary, making the country whole again. The names were also used by the 2 most powerful Romanian destroyers in WW2, ships that humiliated the much larger Soviet navy many times during that conflict.
It was a shame there were no takers for the other Batch 2 Ships - just bad timing probably as there were a lot of Decommisioned Escort Ships on the Market at that time.
The classification of destroyer, frigate, corvette etc, is not solely on size, but armaments and purpose. I should know, as an ex TAS rating who’s served on Southampton- a destroyer - and Brave
As a sidenote, Campbeltown was some 500 tonnes heavier than its sister ships due to its final refit strengthening beams fitted port and stbd starting at the Foc'sle and running aft to just under the start of the upper fwd screen. Served on Coventry, Cumberland, Cornwall and Campbeltown (twice). Decommissioned both batches.
Went on board Brazen when she visited Miami in 1992. I remember the forward SeaWolf reloads had to be wheeled on a cart down a corridor the length of the ship then out a door to reach the launcher. Wondering if the later batches added a forward magazine?
With point defence missile systems are nearly all reloaded the same isnt sea sparrow loaded same way sea dart which is a 60 000 ft range ship to air missile was loaded through magazine like most today.
Everyone I knew that had a 22 loved them, and they never wanted anything else. As a Pompey rating I was happy to never get one, but I wish they had also been based here.
As ex RN 85/90 I served in HMS INTREPID but was due to be drafted to HMS LONDON but got sent on a leading seaman course, even though my 18 month notice had just been put in which never made sense to me. I wish I had stayed but thought that the grass was greener on the other side. BIG MISTSKE, LOL.
Good video, but can I just state that COGOG is COmbined Gas Or Gas. That's a combination of any two Tyne GT OR Olympus/Spey GT. COGAG is COmbined Gas And Gas, which is the ability to have all 4 GT (2 x Tyne AND 2 x Spey) propelling the ship. Yours Aye, Buster, Ex HMS Chatham (T22 B3 ME Tiff)
Indeed, as someone who served, at an impressionable age, on HMS Brazen and HMS Coventry, I'm sure he has some insights to share. Might bring him back to memories when the Iraqi airforce decided HMS Brazen was in their way.
At some point, could you do a general brief on the different radar bands and what they're used for? I love all the info, but I don't have an appreciation of what the different radar outfits are for.
By the 90's, Prairie Air was tagged out and not used. Well on the 4 T22's I had they were, made more noise than anything else (coincidentally the T23 Masker Air system was also isolated for the exact same reason)
I feel I have to pick you up on a couple of points from your brief. 1) You seriously overstate the range of Exocet 2) Harpoon on the batch 3's was undeniably a far superior weapon to Exocet 3) The picture at around 11 minutes is not a Type 22. Otherwise a nice brief.
The ship shown at around 11 minutes is in fact a Type 22, it is ex HMS Sheffield (F96) a Batch 2B, which is now in the Chilean Navy as Almirante Williams (FF-19). She has been heavily modified with an OTO Melara 76mm gun, 8x Harpoon missiles and 2x Barak 1 point defence systems.
Awful. If you have a list of things, don't read them out, just type them onto the page, we can read much faster than you can speak, and we can skip over or pause if we want to ponder.
I served on a batch 2 type 22. I am afraid to say your spoken delivery is so random, it is really hard to follow. I was listening for your info on the batch two as their man role was towed array and ECM but the info is all over the place. .
@@TheShipYard2 I do not mean to be horrible. Maybe break the information down into topics and make the breaks between noticeable. Class intro/overview-builds and batches-career by batches etc.
Elocution my dear Watson. Many a RUclipsr I have tuned out the pronunciations so give him a chance. I’ve always thought that if I don’t have the talent to write, produce and edit a video I will be constructive with any criticism. Take it easy👍🍺🍺👍🍺
@@alphalunamare Nothing to do with pedantry; I'm not sure you know what the word means. If you are going to set yourself up as good enough to put stuff up on social media that is worthy of people's attention then you need to have an eye, and ear, to quality.
@@BrianSmith-ow9gy So 'what' is good enough for you is now to be The International Standard? May I ask where you learned your English? Which aristocratic class, I mean ... County, Flash Money or perhaps a Squire?
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i served on the Broadsword, Did the Armilla patrol in the Persian gulf, best class of vessel in the navy at that time. very quick for there size, reliable and well built. compared to other ships like leander class and Amazon the 22's were like a hotel. I remember a funny event, i was a chef on F88, we were at sea and some guy from the op's room came down to the galley and started questioning me about the potato peeling machine and what times i use it and for how long, I was bemused by the strange questions but it turned out that every time i turned the potato peeler on it was setting off alarms in the ops room as it was registering the same frequency as the motor of an incoming torpedo. At the time the ship was testing out a new sonar from Marconi and it didnt like my spud peeler.
Just 30 seconds in and I want to say you’ve seriously improved your narrating! Much easier to understand. Really appreciate the effort you’ve put into that, thanks captain.
IMHO the third batch Type 22 in the best looking warship ever designed, in the west, post war.
These were such handsome ships, thanks for the videos, I really enjoy this series. I so appreciate hearing a human voice, even with the odd idiosyncrasy. Much better than the usual computer!
Served on 'Battleaxe 82-84 3GP , AB(M)
....in 'ruffers' the canteen flat was a great place to fly , if you timed your jump right you could jettison yourself from the hatch combing by the canteen shutters through to the 'forrd heads grating! Such was the height of the deckheads .
The quarterdeck was a fine place for contempation and mailey writing especialy when the mighty Olympuses were wound up .
The extra space unfortunately led to endless scrubbing out and during store ship the vertiflow system failed , constantly!
Manked , moaned & loafed for the vast majority of my time , indispersed with some great runs ashore . Proud to have served as a batch 1 T22'er !
Have bin aboard once when the ship attended at the Dutch Naval days.
The ship has a role in the Tom Clancy novel Red storm rising aside with the USS Reuben James.
F99 Cornwall was a very well equipped ship, and would still be very useful today.
These tipes of ships are still used by the Romanian Navy. F98 and F95 to be exact under different names ofc.
@@UncleMisu Intretinute si cu un echipament mai nou + armament si rachete ghidate, si iese ceva frumos !Neaparat trebuiesc reconditionate mai rapid si sa ne vina si cele 4 corvete de la francezi de ultima generatie si suntem si noi " cineva" in Marea Neagra, mai ales acum cand avem nevoie cel mai mult de ele !
The 4 batch 4s definitely still had a lot to give, as command ships and power projection assets given their size but the two gws-25 launchers clearly needed an upgrade or replacement with a 6.5km range compared to 10km for vl sea wolf. Not sure a vl sea wolf refit would have been practical, possible or approriate but holding out for sea ceptor might have been great, especially for the exls launcher which would be a perfect solution rather than mushroom launchers
The batch three Type 22's were very fine warships that were sold out of the Royal Navy far too early.
Tell me about it, they were lush, but we’re defo sold too early. However I think that was on the grounds there RCS was huge
The Type 22's bucked the trend in having plenty of room for upgrades compared to say a Type 21, but they were Heavy on Fuel and Manpower,yes you could probably put Artisan and Sea Ceptor on them but would the expense have been worth it in the end ?.Fine Looking Ships nonetheless .
@@TheShipYard2 Well, your loss for our gain I'd say 😊
The pair serving in the Romanian navy made quite an impression in the Black Sea, so I reckon this deal had some strategic reasoning behind it as well considering who else is sailing big ships around here 😉
BTW good job with the name pronunciation (almost perfect for Regina Maria and acceptable for Regele Ferdinand). If you're wondering, these were the Romanian king & queen who lead the country through the first world war and managed to take Transylvania back from Austria-Hungary, making the country whole again. The names were also used by the 2 most powerful Romanian destroyers in WW2, ships that humiliated the much larger Soviet navy many times during that conflict.
It was a shame there were no takers for the other Batch 2 Ships - just bad timing probably as there were a lot of Decommisioned Escort Ships on the Market at that time.
YES.
The classification of destroyer, frigate, corvette etc, is not solely on size, but armaments and purpose. I should know, as an ex TAS rating who’s served on Southampton- a destroyer - and Brave
Great ships!! Proud to have served!!! 5 of them!!!
Still think the batch 3 type 22s were amongst the finest looking ships produced for the RN and one of the most potent.
I served on Battleaxe F89. Very roomy ships and luxurious compared to the County Class I'd previously served on.
Ex Battleaxe 82-84 . Going to the reunion in October?
served on the Chatham as a Leading Seaman Sonar one of the best crews in the fleet 1990 to 1994
As a sidenote, Campbeltown was some 500 tonnes heavier than its sister ships due to its final refit strengthening beams fitted port and stbd starting at the Foc'sle and running aft to just under the start of the upper fwd screen. Served on Coventry, Cumberland, Cornwall and Campbeltown (twice). Decommissioned both batches.
Went on board Brazen when she visited Miami in 1992. I remember the forward SeaWolf reloads had to be wheeled on a cart down a corridor the length of the ship then out a door to reach the launcher. Wondering if the later batches added a forward magazine?
With point defence missile systems are nearly all reloaded the same isnt sea sparrow loaded same way sea dart which is a 60 000 ft range ship to air missile was loaded through magazine like most today.
Everyone I knew that had a 22 loved them, and they never wanted anything else. As a Pompey rating I was happy to never get one, but I wish they had also been based here.
Jim Callaghan served in the Royal Navy in WW2
Superb Ships. Wonderful design :-)
"Shipyard" is one word, in conventional English!
As ex RN 85/90 I served in HMS INTREPID but was due to be drafted to HMS LONDON but got sent on a leading seaman course, even though my 18 month notice had just been put in which never made sense to me. I wish I had stayed but thought that the grass was greener on the other side. BIG MISTSKE, LOL.
Good video, but can I just state that COGOG is COmbined Gas Or Gas. That's a combination of any two Tyne GT OR Olympus/Spey GT. COGAG is COmbined Gas And Gas, which is the ability to have all 4 GT (2 x Tyne AND 2 x Spey) propelling the ship. Yours Aye, Buster, Ex HMS Chatham (T22 B3 ME Tiff)
Thank you ,fascinating, always liked this class off ships.
I really enjoy your videos, thankyou very much, entertaining and informative.
Someone share this with The Mighty Jingles. Maybe he can add more stuff
Indeed, as someone who served, at an impressionable age, on HMS Brazen and HMS Coventry, I'm sure he has some insights to share. Might bring him back to memories when the Iraqi airforce decided HMS Brazen was in their way.
nice video man thx i love warship history nice channel keep going!
The title sounds exciting
If I put it the right way round, yes, yes it does
At some point, could you do a general brief on the different radar bands and what they're used for? I love all the info, but I don't have an appreciation of what the different radar outfits are for.
I was wondering at the absence of 1066 and 968 but it was a long time ago :-)
Great video as usual. I didn't hear mention the prairie masker system though.
By the 90's, Prairie Air was tagged out and not used. Well on the 4 T22's I had they were, made more noise than anything else (coincidentally the T23 Masker Air system was also isolated for the exact same reason)
Who is the water skier at 3:15?
Oh and Greenhaugh is pronounced “greenalsh” , she was inboard of us - in Brave -in Rio
Great video!
I worked on T26 in build in they are BIG! With the Bustle on the arse end, they have ended up longer than T45. Beasts.
I feel I have to pick you up on a couple of points from your brief. 1) You seriously overstate the range of Exocet 2) Harpoon on the batch 3's was undeniably a far superior weapon to Exocet 3) The picture at around 11 minutes is not a Type 22. Otherwise a nice brief.
The ship shown at around 11 minutes is in fact a Type 22, it is ex HMS Sheffield (F96) a Batch 2B, which is now in the Chilean Navy as Almirante Williams (FF-19). She has been heavily modified with an OTO Melara 76mm gun, 8x Harpoon missiles and 2x Barak 1 point defence systems.
I did beaver, Sheffield and Campbeltown
Did they serve in the falklands war
yeah, 2 did at least. Broadsword was Coventry escort when she was hit
Yes Brilliant took bomb damage
Frigates type 22 were beaten for subsonic antiques Argentine Skyhawk....lost the battle with airplanes...
Awful. If you have a list of things, don't read them out, just type them onto the page, we can read much faster than you can speak, and we can skip over or pause if we want to ponder.
CHATHAM CARRIED SEA KING FOR ASW VERY RARELY HAD LYNX
Guy surfing 3:30 in lol
Great video thanks, slightly surprised they had missles though, I thought RN ships were fitted with missiles?
Anyone see the guy waterskiing behind the ship around 3:40
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I served on a batch 2 type 22. I am afraid to say your spoken delivery is so random, it is really hard to follow. I was listening for your info on the batch two as their man role was towed array and ECM but the info is all over the place. .
ahhhh, im sorry about that :(
@@TheShipYard2 I do not mean to be horrible. Maybe break the information down into topics and make the breaks between noticeable. Class intro/overview-builds and batches-career by batches etc.
Missiles not mislles
You sound drunk, slurred commentary 😂
Improved audio but pronunciation still needs work, th often pronounced as f.
Unlistenable commentary with its "wiv"s (withs) "free"s (threes) and especially "haitches" (aitches).
Elocution my dear Watson. Many a RUclipsr I have tuned out the pronunciations so give him a chance. I’ve always thought that if I don’t have the talent to write, produce and edit a video I will be constructive with any criticism.
Take it easy👍🍺🍺👍🍺
Pedant ... if you expected the men and women of The Royal Navy as thou would expect then you'd be speaking German.
@@alphalunamare Nothing to do with pedantry; I'm not sure you know what the word means. If you are going to set yourself up as good enough to put stuff up on social media that is worthy of people's attention then you need to have an eye, and ear, to quality.
@@BrianSmith-ow9gy So 'what' is good enough for you is now to be The International Standard? May I ask where you learned your English? Which aristocratic class, I mean ... County, Flash Money or perhaps a Squire?
@@alphalunamare Nothing to do with accent and everything to do with pronunciation and the ability to speak clearly.