I'm happy that you've found this peace and sense of aesthetic for yourself. Indeed, there is so much in this world that is intrinsically beautiful. For me, however, it's not at all a sad thing to appreciate beauty in conjunction with the divine. In my worldview, the two are inextricably linked, part and parcel of each other. I can't conceive of one without the other, nor do I believe that this world exists apart from the grace and gift of a loving God. And I don't find that sad at all :-)
Even though there is debate going on in these comments, it is amongst the most civil I've seen on the topic on RUclips. And not a single "I'm 10 but I hate modern music and love this. Look at how special I am". Kudos.
@sanjosemike Quite the opposite here. I'm a devout Christian, and would absolutely love to hear this in church live and produced with such mastery while contemplating my Lord and Savior. That said, I agree with Capselo - put down your issues for 10 minutes, turn up the volume a bit and listen to true earthly beauty.
Mauricio Kagel said: ''Is possible that not all the composers believe in God. In J.S. Bach, all of them believe''. For me, a merely aspirant of conductor and composer, J.S. Bach is the most great possible that the life gave to us.
@sanjosemike Ah....Bach! As Radar would say on M*A*S*H. Who cannot be transformed by hearing this gorgeous music.....with its mathematical precision. Virgil Fox, a famouse organist, always played lots of Bach but always gave Bach the credit for the performance ("It's easy....you just hit the right keys and the rest takes care of itself.).......Even a virtuoso like Fox was humbled by the genius of Bach so your reaction to hearing it is......no mistake.....
@sanjosemike Even "militant" atheists may have conscience such alike "the voice of God" whispering inside, talking about truth with your inner self... Cos' this minor B is based on the conscience: "J.S. Bach wrote his last great choral composition the Mass in B minor (BWV 232) to express the alternating emotions of loneliness, despair, joy and rapture that arise as conscience reflects on a departed human life" (wikipedia info). Am I making a great mistake here or what ?
@sanjosemike You know that Nietzsche felt the same when listening to the passion of St Matthew. Being an atheist does not make you an insensitive klutz. That music tickles the right nerve endings.
@theviol93 People are inspired by all sorts of things. That doesn't mean that they are good, or that they should be done. But let's all just enjoy the pretty music. :)
schön, z.b. weil mit wenig vibrato-überladung, auch weil der hall-effekt des riesigen kirchenraumes ein bisschen zur geltung kommt (evtl. ein bisschen zu wenig hier), nur ein bisschen mehr kontraste (z.b. mehr differenzen in der lautstärke) und es wäre sogar noch schöner ;o)
Deutschland 89 spoilers This music makes the scene where Schweppenstette, the HVA officials, and everyone else watching the East German refugees storm the Border on TV so much more powerful.
How did he do all of this without a personal secretary? Bach constantly had his table full with duties that would vex the most multi-tasking person on earth. (Is that the definition of playing the organ?) Do you suppose it was his wives who served as his secretary? (How could they with all those children?) Have any Bach researchers found that he had a personal secretary in his church offices? I operated a surgical center, but had a full time secretary to help. Does anyone know the answer?
Beautiful interpretation ,but a liittle bit fast , but it does not matter i am sure it is in the St Thomas Church in Leipzig, what i can see at the begining and the end of the video . Of course it is sensitive the presence of the BACH' School music . I was luky for those circunstances of the life to be there before 3 months earlier when the wall fall down for ever , and i could heard Matew' Passion and The this Mass , just 5 meters of BACH's tomb. BACH music for ever and ever !
Good music is good music, and all human beings, of different ages and different religions, will enjoy it. Even the plane-crashing muslim extremists would enjoy this piece chanting the existence of the Christian God.
@Pedroconifer Your post is utterly strange. Forgive me if I can't understand it. What is your point? As it turns out, my surgical center was completely Federally and State licensed. My question was how Bach allocated his time. He was probably one of the most busy classical or baroque composers, with numerous Church and administrative duties. I assume you're trying to be funny. But your humor escapes me completely. Probably also most readers. Sarcasm does not usually work "in print."
@sanjosemike it is an everlasting creational power which is touching our sense of spirituality, of wholiness/holiness which lives in every human being, and makes us different from animals
Well, you "may or may not" be right. 'Who knows". But I think it's a fact that in our Godless age Bach is the artist invoked more than any other (and that includes painters, etc.) as inspiring thoughts of a Deity even by those ill-inclined to such thoughts.
That´s a fact. And I wonder why...? My theory is that its music doesn´t need God at all to develop from its very begining. How, why? That's the nature of life.
@Ritzounett Other way around. Bach stated himself that he is a man of god before music. He dedicated his career to the service of god. It is music handed to god, from the god of music, Bach. Many musicians in the past have dedicated their existence and the measure of their worth through means of religion... In other words, he did it for god, it wasn't something god gave to him. Study up on bach, hes one of very few composers who worked to no end to become talented. Its the cause of his blindness
I am perfectly capable of appreciating beauty without there being a deity involved. Whether that beauty involved praising or not. I do not value a cathedral's grace and lofty spires because the person who built it believed one way or another. I appreciate beauty for what it is. It is a sad day when someone can only appreciate beauty if there's a deity involved, because much in this world is beautiful without it.
This piece proves the superiority of German music once and for all. The monotony of the rhythm, texture, melody, tempo, and all other aspects of this piece speak for itself. After all, monotony is the essence of beauty, excitement, profundity, and virtue. For something that doesn't put most people to sleep, check out Rameau's operas, Mozart's piano concertos, Rachmaninov's preludes, or Beethoven's symphonies.
This is the Kyrie from Bach's Mass in B minor, dear KhagarBalugrak, which is widely accepted as one of the supreme achievements of human artistic expression. But if it does send you to sleep, you might want to check out Justin Beiber's As Long As You Love Me, Dawn's Tie A Yellow Ribbon Around The Old Oak Tree, and George Michael's Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go. They are also very good.
Sad indeed is the fact that You miss the whole point..an fail to realise that this beauty was made for and inspired by"Deity involved..and that God gave those Composers like Bach,Chopin,Mozart the musical talents that they are known for.
I understand where most athiest are coming from. I don't understand the ones you feel so strongly about it. How can you feel so strongly about something you know not to be true?
@sanjosemike if ur an atheist that enjoys G-ds tricks here is another one --> Allegri - Miserere (best quality) :) these seem like some of humanity's greatest attempts to grasp at ultimate reality
God made Bach and Bach praised the Lord for he knew that God does indeed exist.Yes thank God for such gifts.It amusing to see atheists listen to church music relating to God..hmm maybe they are missing something in their lives after all???
Thank God for such a gift he has given us, Bach's music
Glenn Gould was once asked if he believed in god. His answer: I believe in Bach's god.
sorrowful and divine. my favorite interpretation mass in b-minor.
I wish I could meet Bach!
I'm happy that you've found this peace and sense of aesthetic for yourself. Indeed, there is so much in this world that is intrinsically beautiful. For me, however, it's not at all a sad thing to appreciate beauty in conjunction with the divine. In my worldview, the two are inextricably linked, part and parcel of each other. I can't conceive of one without the other, nor do I believe that this world exists apart from the grace and gift of a loving God. And I don't find that sad at all :-)
A real care for the soul.... Thank God for Mr. Bach who was so humble to let govern his inspiration on you....
Эта музыка-ещё одно доказательство бытия Бога
Even though there is debate going on in these comments, it is amongst the most civil I've seen on the topic on RUclips. And not a single "I'm 10 but I hate modern music and love this. Look at how special I am".
Kudos.
Johann Schmidt I feel you I hate modern music too!
I am a militant atheist, but somehow Bach played a "trick" on me. He wrote music that makes me cry every time I hear it.
Бесподобно, как и все его творения...
imagine living in the 18th century hearing this piece for the first time, nothing short of an amazing experience. it had to, it still is
This is a really good looking video; I must say the quality is excellent.
very well done. My choir is singing this in about 5 months. very exciting
@sanjosemike Quite the opposite here. I'm a devout Christian, and would absolutely love to hear this in church live and produced with such mastery while contemplating my Lord and Savior. That said, I agree with Capselo - put down your issues for 10 minutes, turn up the volume a bit and listen to true earthly beauty.
Mauricio Kagel said: ''Is possible that not all the composers believe in God. In J.S. Bach, all of them believe''. For me, a merely aspirant of conductor and composer, J.S. Bach is the most great possible that the life gave to us.
No tengo palabras para esto, es simplemente de lo mejor del mundo
i love how it goes from a major sounding chord to a minor
Like it or not, this will make you cry....
wonderful piece. And love the dude the ben franklin hair :)
A majestic performance!
@sanjosemike Ah....Bach! As Radar would say on M*A*S*H. Who cannot be transformed by hearing this gorgeous music.....with its mathematical precision. Virgil Fox, a famouse organist, always played lots of Bach but always gave Bach the credit for the performance ("It's easy....you just hit the right keys and the rest takes care of itself.).......Even a virtuoso like Fox was humbled by the genius of Bach so your reaction to hearing it is......no mistake.....
@sanjosemike Even "militant" atheists may have conscience such alike "the voice of God" whispering inside, talking about truth with your inner self... Cos' this minor B is based on the conscience: "J.S. Bach wrote his last great choral composition the Mass in B minor (BWV 232) to express the alternating emotions of loneliness, despair, joy and rapture that arise as conscience reflects on a departed human life" (wikipedia info). Am I making a great mistake here or what ?
@sanjosemike You know that Nietzsche felt the same when listening to the passion of St Matthew. Being an atheist does not make you an insensitive klutz. That music tickles the right nerve endings.
@theviol93 People are inspired by all sorts of things. That doesn't mean that they are good, or that they should be done. But let's all just enjoy the pretty music. :)
@rlocke1027 This piece was never played in an actual mass (at least not the whole piece). It is way too long. It was normally performed in sections.
Very moving . Our high school a Capella choir sang this
schön, z.b. weil mit wenig vibrato-überladung, auch weil der hall-effekt des riesigen kirchenraumes ein bisschen zur geltung kommt (evtl. ein bisschen zu wenig hier), nur ein bisschen mehr kontraste (z.b. mehr differenzen in der lautstärke) und es wäre sogar noch schöner ;o)
I have loved this piece for a long time! Does anyone know the bpm for this? Please and thank you!
58 bpm
@bluebunny61 very well put.
Deutschland 89 spoilers
This music makes the scene where Schweppenstette, the HVA officials, and everyone else watching the East German refugees storm the Border on TV so much more powerful.
How did he do all of this without a personal secretary? Bach constantly had his table full with duties that would vex the most multi-tasking person on earth. (Is that the definition of playing the organ?) Do you suppose it was his wives who served as his secretary? (How could they with all those children?) Have any Bach researchers found that he had a personal secretary in his church offices? I operated a surgical center, but had a full time secretary to help. Does anyone know the answer?
Very beautiful!
I didn't know George Will also conducted brilliant Bach pieces. :)
Beautiful interpretation ,but a liittle bit fast , but it does not matter i am sure it is in the St Thomas Church in Leipzig, what i can see at the begining and the end of the video . Of course it is sensitive the presence of the BACH' School music . I was luky for those circunstances of the life to be there before 3 months earlier when the wall fall down for ever , and i could heard Matew' Passion and The this Mass , just 5 meters of BACH's tomb. BACH music for ever and ever !
@PhysicalsimForever definitely needs to be at this tempo, else it's stodgy! The music is gorgeous but needs to flow like this.
Good music is good music, and all human beings, of different ages and different religions, will enjoy it.
Even the plane-crashing muslim extremists would enjoy this piece chanting the existence of the Christian God.
@bluebunny61 no, Bach is sharing his creation that was in no way influenced by your sky-fairy.
@constantly87 Sure, Bach copied the sound track from a Hollywood movie for this mass. That's why it sounds familiar to you.
@sanjosemike Militant aetheist...what an interesting term. I mean no offense by that, however, I've never heard those words mixed together.
extraordinario......
Magnificent!
@Pedroconifer Your post is utterly strange. Forgive me if I can't understand it. What is your point? As it turns out, my surgical center was completely Federally and State licensed. My question was how Bach allocated his time. He was probably one of the most busy classical or baroque composers, with numerous Church and administrative duties. I assume you're trying to be funny. But your humor escapes me completely. Probably also most readers. Sarcasm does not usually work "in print."
@Felidae08 Tomaskirche, wo arbeitet Bach.
It takes away my spirit.
gyes99 You are hysterically funny. thanks.
incredible
J'adore!
4:52 what is up with that guy, did they pick him up off a park bench?
what silly comments. God may or may not exist. Who knows. Bach exists though and takes us closer to something transcendental with this music
@sanjosemike
it is an everlasting creational power which is touching our sense of spirituality, of wholiness/holiness which lives in every human being, and makes us different from animals
@sanjosemike sounds to me that at heart you are actually a deeply spiritual person, though just not a fan of religion, and for that I don't blame you.
Just let the composers be and listen.. for christ's sake...
Kyrie, eleison
Christe, eleison
Kyrie, eleison
@gyes99 awesome, do you know what movie?
Peccato che non si vive abbastanza a lungo per ascoltare tutta la musica di Dio.
Grazie JS Bach
Giorgio caio cestio
@sanjosemike That "trick" is your soul itching for the love of God.
Why don't the traditional Catholic Churches with the Latin masses still play this music? It's so beautiful!!!
Because this was written for the Lutheran church, not the Catholic.
@Ritzounett From Bachs hand?
they're actually models =P
weiß jemand, welche Kirche das ist?
Sorry, without the focus and mening that Bach himself intended its just...entertainment, and a whole dimension is lost.
@sanjosemike
Hé oui, mon gars...
was this from a movie? it sounds familiar.
Well, you "may or may not" be right. 'Who knows". But I think it's a fact that in our Godless age Bach is the artist invoked more than any other (and that includes painters, etc.) as inspiring thoughts of a Deity even by those ill-inclined to such thoughts.
That´s a fact. And I wonder why...? My theory is that its music doesn´t need God at all to develop from its very begining. How, why? That's the nature of life.
@erroll9621 true that, some of you will never change.. but neither does God. His arms are always wide open for you.
Bach&Haydn were christian composers many of the other famous 1s like beethoven and mozart weren't.
Κύριε Ελέησον.
@theviol93 of course he was! But it's all a delusion, and it was his job. At any rate, let's all just enjoy the beautiful music. :)
L'immensità
wow
If you like this, check out Miserere Mei Deus
@Ritzounett Other way around. Bach stated himself that he is a man of god before music. He dedicated his career to the service of god. It is music handed to god, from the god of music, Bach. Many musicians in the past have dedicated their existence and the measure of their worth through means of religion... In other words, he did it for god, it wasn't something god gave to him. Study up on bach, hes one of very few composers who worked to no end to become talented. Its the cause of his blindness
I am perfectly capable of appreciating beauty without there being a deity involved. Whether that beauty involved praising or not. I do not value a cathedral's grace and lofty spires because the person who built it believed one way or another. I appreciate beauty for what it is. It is a sad day when someone can only appreciate beauty if there's a deity involved, because much in this world is beautiful without it.
depends on how you define the word "deity"
This piece proves the superiority of German music once and for all. The monotony of the rhythm, texture, melody, tempo, and all other aspects of this piece speak for itself. After all, monotony is the essence of beauty, excitement, profundity, and virtue.
For something that doesn't put most people to sleep, check out Rameau's operas, Mozart's piano concertos, Rachmaninov's preludes, or Beethoven's symphonies.
Wtf
This is the Kyrie from Bach's Mass in B minor, dear KhagarBalugrak, which is widely accepted as one of the supreme achievements of human artistic expression. But if it does send you to sleep, you might want to check out Justin Beiber's As Long As You Love Me, Dawn's Tie A Yellow Ribbon Around The Old Oak Tree, and George Michael's Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go. They are also very good.
Patrick Downey
I, too, love Rammstein.
I love Valesca Popozuda
Sad indeed is the fact that You miss the whole point..an fail to realise that this beauty was made for and inspired by"Deity involved..and that God gave those Composers
like Bach,Chopin,Mozart the musical talents that they are known for.
I understand where most athiest are coming from. I don't understand the ones you feel so strongly about it. How can you feel so strongly about something you know not to be true?
@sanjosemike Ergo, Bach IS God. :-)
A bit too fast, but good nonetheless.
if there was no bach, god would be such a second-rate figure
@sanjosemike if ur an atheist that enjoys G-ds tricks here is another one --> Allegri - Miserere (best quality) :) these seem like some of humanity's greatest attempts to grasp at ultimate reality
why is their skin all so pretty? Like the sun does not shine where they live. Their hands...not a spot on any of them.
I do believe in a superior entity, not God but BACH.
FOR GOODNESS SAKE JUST SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO THE MUSIC
@bluebunny61 yours is your time to waste.
LOL
@mystersamuel The whole mythology of christianity doesn't make any sense.
Far more transcendental than the immoral scribblings in the bible.
i don't like this version..... ts too overdone
@TheSecretHarp umm no. There are no souls, there is no god.
God made Bach and Bach praised the Lord for he knew that God does indeed exist.Yes thank God for such gifts.It amusing to see atheists listen to church music relating to God..hmm maybe they are missing something in their lives after all???
Americans don't like this video (9:11).
Фу