to be fair all they are doing is what practicing chdristians think but are too scared for the right reasons to protest. Most christians i know think LGBT should be respescted like humans but they think they are snful and to be honest i have seen pride and many people there are perverts
There are many including one priest who has resigned over it. www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2019/31-may/news/uk/priest-resigns-in-transgender-pupil-row
It was always going to happen when 21st century western social values clash with stone age religious dogma. Important that Damien Hinds supports the schools rather than running scared of 'offending' Muslims. The panel on the 'Pledge' in general made the right call on this issue.
Over 80% of muslims think homosexuality should deserve to be illegal and deserving of imprisonment or worse in UK according to a poll. The rest of the society meanwhile is almost entirely tolerant of homosexuality in the UK though.
intempify no the only thing they have a role in is actually educating ppl with facts not lies that anal sex is a healthy natural way of life! Lies I didn’t think anal leakage is natural or forcing a penis up an exit! And another lie they will teach is a man can become a woman and visa versa! Which is a big lie!! Why are there not mental heath weekly classes,or knife crime! That’s way more important at this point in time!
@@cottonsockzc2405 No they won't this is about healthy living relationships. It's common knowledge and questions asked have to be answered the best appropriate way. This has exposed the bigotry in society
I am a practicing Muslim and I oppose the Muslims protesting in this way (using bullying tactics and disinformation). I am for inclusion, rights, representation and education regarding the LGBT+ community.
I don't understand Trevor's argument, he says all state schools should teach these LGBT classes, but he's also in favour of faith schools? So is he expecting an Imam or other Islamic scholars to give pro LGBT lessons in an Islamic faith school? Or is he saying that those who go to faith schools would be exempt from the 'No Outsiders' programme?
Muslims have the same views on LGBT that the greatest generation had the generation before them and so on. It’s such a shame that we Muslims have to stand up for what is right and our so called Christians/Jewish brothers and sisters who have the same doctrine can’t stand by us. We’re prepared to go alone because if God is with us, who can be against us?
Well what was the solution when Christianity was against same sex couples? Same premises, I think it's getting the Muslim community to talk with itself and solve its issues
Democracy=minority HAS to follow majority. Please don't be such a crying baby playing the victim card, LGBT. I don't think these muslim parents are wrong though I myself is an atheist.
Democracy in the context of the western world is, minority has to follow the majority, unless the majority violates fundamental rights of the minority. In this case the majority violates the freedom of education and the freedom of family life, as codified in the UN charter of human rights and the European treaty of human rights. Conclusion, in this case it is the majority that has to back off. With your reasoning we can reintroduce the death penalty tomorrow....
@@niwuwuginger9041 Of course they can be amended, and I would agree that these laws are not by definition perfect. However, I would not give up freedom of education or freedom of family life. The alternative is rather totalitarian.
Trevor is the guy. Legend. If we always put human rights above religious rights we don't need need to keep having this discussion. Just stand up for Liberalism and it's sorted.
Well some people simply cannot help the fact that there different thats just the very sad truth! do u think most people would out up with there life styles if they were able to change it?
@@Justatroll78373 they made the choice. disabled people are different cuz God created them that way, people make their choice due to desire or dont have confident in themselves, think in wrong body... sadly most regret the charges they made. They forget to Thank God for the beautiful life God has given all.
They shouldn't be teaching that sort of thing in school at all. There's much better things to spend time doing
If only the Muslim is just as concerned about their man marrying a 12 year old as they are concerned about the LGBT classes.
Bad point. They dont push that through politics or teach that to childs at school. The lgbt community does.
Ignorant idiots here
Six year old!
intempify Look at the Catholic Church
The speaker deliberately mixes up LBGTQ education and bullying. I learned not to bully at school. I learned about LGBTQ later in life. No problem.
They are really saying Tommy Robinson is right.
Wili Wds Stephen Yaxley Lennon is a fraudster
@MCVE III No he does not!
to be fair all they are doing is what practicing chdristians think but are too scared for the right reasons to protest. Most christians i know think LGBT should be respescted like humans but they think they are snful and to be honest i have seen pride and many people there are perverts
Ironic lol
I am with Muslim parents in this battle, would love to know where the Christian leaders are on this issue
There are many including one priest who has resigned over it.
www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2019/31-may/news/uk/priest-resigns-in-transgender-pupil-row
Yet everyone who hates it leave. They are segregating themselves. One day bigots like that will die our
On the USA we recently had Christian parents standing with Muslim parents on keeping the gender confusion lobby out of schools
IslamaPHOBIA Vs HomoPHOBIA.
I’ll get my popcorn 🍿
What are the odds? 2/1 on Islam lol
james fox-nah-gotta be LGBT-the ISLAMISTS dont like it up em!!!!.
It was always going to happen when 21st century western social values clash with stone age religious dogma.
Important that Damien Hinds supports the schools rather than running scared of 'offending' Muslims.
The panel on the 'Pledge' in general made the right call on this issue.
Exactly
Since when was pushing indoctrination and gender confusion classes a part of Western society and social values?
HA! the wheels are coming of now for the left.
It’s parents choice first! Our society is tolerable enough!
Over 80% of muslims think homosexuality should deserve to be illegal and deserving of imprisonment or worse in UK according to a poll. The rest of the society meanwhile is almost entirely tolerant of homosexuality in the UK though.
@intempify I think it was a poll commissioned by channel 4. Moreover, half of them also said homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to teach.
intempify no the only thing they have a role in is actually educating ppl with facts not lies that anal sex is a healthy natural way of life! Lies I didn’t think anal leakage is natural or forcing a penis up an exit! And another lie they will teach is a man can become a woman and visa versa! Which is a big lie!! Why are there not mental heath weekly classes,or knife crime! That’s way more important at this point in time!
Vegan4ever so what if they do? R u the thought police?
@@cottonsockzc2405 No they won't this is about healthy living relationships. It's common knowledge and questions asked have to be answered the best appropriate way. This has exposed the bigotry in society
I am a practicing Muslim and I oppose the Muslims protesting in this way (using bullying tactics and disinformation).
I am for inclusion, rights, representation and education regarding the LGBT+ community.
Hip Hop Library agreed. I have no problem with tolerance. It's unfair for people to lump entire groups into one when a minority are complaining
The world's gone mad! Everyone and everything has to be counted and needs a label. Why have people turned so needy?
Because people who are heterosexual are the majority and dictate society and anyone who isn't the majority is labelled same happens with us Autistics
It's called intersectionality (labelling) and it has failed utterly.
WE LIVE IN A VERY SAD WORLD
I don't understand Trevor's argument, he says all state schools should teach these LGBT classes, but he's also in favour of faith schools? So is he expecting an Imam or other Islamic scholars to give pro LGBT lessons in an Islamic faith school? Or is he saying that those who go to faith schools would be exempt from the 'No Outsiders' programme?
Muslims have the same views on LGBT that the greatest generation had the generation before them and so on.
It’s such a shame that we Muslims have to stand up for what is right and our so called Christians/Jewish brothers and sisters who have the same doctrine can’t stand by us.
We’re prepared to go alone because if God is with us, who can be against us?
6:20 - What a Queen 👏🏽
Why do we need Faith schools?
We don’t.
Faith in the House of Lords is bad too
@intempify Yet it's ridiculous in this day and age. Barely anyone goes to church.
Richard Dawkins did a great channel four doc. "faith school menace"
ruclips.net/video/bErdsn-00Uo/видео.html
Threatening parents saying they would have less of a say in classroom, they don’t get a say now, so protestors haven’t got much to lose. 😔
Well what was the solution when Christianity was against same sex couples? Same premises, I think it's getting the Muslim community to talk with itself and solve its issues
Wouldn't it be a good idea if the parents and teachers sat down together and came up with a way of teaching this stuff which they can both agree on?
Mocking Islam and smearing us as homophobe but no Muslim in the panel classic gammon activity
Trevor is just brilliant!
6:20 Nailed it. She is absolutely right in what she says.
Will the schools be teaching about drug addicted families, alcoholic families etc too, cant discriminate.
Democracy=minority HAS to follow majority.
Please don't be such a crying baby playing the victim card, LGBT.
I don't think these muslim parents are wrong
though I myself is an atheist.
Democracy in the context of the western world is, minority has to follow the majority, unless the majority violates fundamental rights of the minority. In this case the majority violates the freedom of education and the freedom of family life, as codified in the UN charter of human rights and the European treaty of human rights. Conclusion, in this case it is the majority that has to back off.
With your reasoning we can reintroduce the death penalty tomorrow....
@@91Durktheturk Laws are NOT innate, they are man-made.
Which means they can be wrong and can be rectified.
@@91Durktheturk And the laws made by the EU or UN are
nowhere near perfect.
@@niwuwuginger9041 Of course they can be amended, and I would agree that these laws are not by definition perfect. However, I would not give up freedom of education or freedom of family life. The alternative is rather totalitarian.
@@niwuwuginger9041
All religions are man made and there for claims of Gods laws are rather silly .
Trevor is the guy. Legend.
If we always put human rights above religious rights we don't need need to keep having this discussion. Just stand up for Liberalism and it's sorted.
why can't they just get normal teachers to teach these classes rather than getting men in makeup dressed as women
Wasn't it Mr Philips who coined the phrase Islamaphobia in a previous incarnation. I think he has a lot to answer for
He's a known Islamophobe. The term was around before he came along though.
Nice discussion.
Help there has been a glitch in the Matrix.. NPC's revolt
Does not compute!
Does not compute!
5 years old Muslim or not there to young
5 years old should know about sex!!!!!!!!!???????
I'm with the Muslims on this one.
1:57
He sounds like a transman.
What makes people think that everyone wants tp live in a mixed society ? continuous coverage of issues tells a different story …..
Human rights and equal rights come before religious rights. Religion has no place in politics, or schools.
Tell that to the new king who's head of the church
*Now let's make this debate about teachers pushing Islam in public schools.*
Birmingstan
What does that mean?
Why should we allow a Lifestyle to kill in the name of love. A wrong decisions can never be right.
Well some people simply cannot help the fact that there different thats just the very sad truth! do u think most people would out up with there life styles if they were able to change it?
@@Justatroll78373 they made the choice. disabled people are different cuz God created them that way, people make their choice due to desire or dont have confident in themselves, think in wrong body... sadly most regret the charges they made. They forget to Thank God for the beautiful life God has given all.
dabbing
dabbing
Tripleknight21 and I are dab bros
@@Greenpoloboy3 no to drugs
@@Wwe101-v2h yeah
I used to dabble.
Racists