A few pillars or some empty arches at the ends of the hedges and edges of paths might have helped stability on the walls and added even further visual variation. This is a great build, using the scouring pads is a brilliant move!
Great ideas. I'm actually working on a few modular archways for the build at the moment to help add some more visual interest. Some pillars would also have been a nice touch. Might have to make a few to add into the scatter 😁 cheers
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I made some thicket pieces a few weeks ago using green scouring pads. I prefer 1” high “representative” walls so that everyone can see over them
This is perfect! I'm running a fairytale themed campaign right now and plan on a hedge maze scenario later on at the Red Queen's castle. Will definitely be using this!
Love the look of the hedge maze. Think I might have to give this a try, but not going to go all out with the flocking and details. Going to try to get 90% of the results either way 10% of the effort. Thank you.👍
Love it! The extra steps with the flocking, mini stuff and tufts makes it that extra bit magical! 🥰 It’s not a you video until we see those mini frogs come out 😋😘
If you had the flagstones pre-painted when you glued them down would it be feasible to have done the static grass then? It would have saved you having to put the glue down between the stones.
While watching this, my roommate and her friend came by and said "stop watching thirst traps." So there you go Seb, according to two university students in the US, you're the D&D thirst trap.
Looks amazing!! Love it. I have to build this!! The 3d printed animals and mushrooms look fantastic aswell! Can’t wait to see the video on the statues, garden beds and topiaries!
I would use this in a modular square grid, with the players getting a false sense of security because they can see the entire thing on the table (and have been able to map it out from a nearby hill or house in game), only to pull the rug under them by revealing each line or column can shift one space at random, separating adventurers from the rest of the party and screwing with their plans. Clever players would realize there is no exit, unless you reach a central space where you have to solve a puzzle after a boss battle.
This is super cool Seb! I love that you can add the pieces on as the players explore either randomly or via a plan. The 3 options of build quality really help make the video engaging too. Can't wait to see it in game at T&TRPG.
Cheers mate. Yer I like the idea of making things next level but showing people that you can still make something super basic that will work. I know most people don't want to spend hours and extra dollars for one encounter haha
ive put together a rough document, its ugly but gives you the idea of what i made drive.google.com/file/d/1rvtPf5dE2ZnTcBrwkgS9NGrFXpZodKZG/view?usp=sharing
Well, one positive of accidentally making those pieces too small, is that you could save a bit on storing space by placing the small pieces in the large pieces while not in use.
Yep! Happy accidents haha. The entire system fits nicely in a fairly small box by stacking them inside each other. It worked out well in the end aswell because I made them dead ends, so being smaller they fit easily in the gaps between the main peices
Nice! I"m a huge fan of modular terrain, but I prefer having the walls separate from the floors. I"ll probably try to make this, but with 1 inch thick walls (xps covered with scourer pads for texture) to be put between the floor tiles, for more modularity.
Another great way to do it. You could make a selection of walls and just have one big base peice that way so you could make any shaped maze section you like...could even have removable sections for secret doorways
These look great mate! Glad I’ve got a backlog of videos to watch from you cus I’m about to go on a binge! Honestly great work with all these details and loved your way of filming/presenting! Just wondering if you think priming would be useful if I wanted to make something similar to these that will get quite rigorous use?
Cheers mate! That means a lot! Hopefully you can find some other bits and pieces of inspo from my other byulds. As for this build, I'm not sure about primer, it couldn't hurt, but really everything is covered with glue which is a pretty good protective layer by the end. Also After filming I ended up hitting these with a fairly heavy layer of Matt clear coat as a way to give it some extra strength against use. Primer is never a bad idea tho haha
Well that all depends on how you choose to play the maze. My intention is a feywild enchanted maze so things will be changing and destroying the walls won't be as simple as some might expect. But then again you could make some modular destroyed wall if you wanted to let your players just smash their way through
This is great, I'm glad to have found this video. Appreciate the editing and nice work and respect to the idea's owner. I have a question though, if I can't use spray adhesive, what could I use?
Thanks. I'm sure you could manage with just about any kind of glue. You would just have to make a few changes to the approach. Like wood glue and super rglue would work, but you would probably need to do sections one at a time and wait for it to dry so the flocking doesn't fall off. The spray glue is handy as it goes tacky. You could even try using a green acrylic paint and covering it with flick as it dries for your first layer. Then filling in the gaps with other glues
Just thinking of a way to make an even more modular maze. Fold the scrubby pad over a decently thick wire, like the ground wire in Romex (thats the in wall electric wire here, any building site will have lots of off cuts). Glue the pad to itself and flock. Now you can bend the hadge to whatever shape you want and it's thick enough to stand on its own.
Looks very nice, indeed! I'd personally make the hedges shorter for playability's sake, and probably use styrofoam instead of scrubbing pads. You can get nice-looking shrubs and tree foliage with lumps of styrofoam, so I think it could work nicely as hedges, as well.
Yer I've seen some really nice styrofoam hedges in the past (I've even made some haha), but I think the results with the scourers is a lot nicer in the end as it kind of has that look of the small branches when you look at it up close. And the added bonus that if anything falls apart or breaks then the underlying layer still looks right, where as foam breaking or cracking will need a full repair. And I think you're right about the height, while mine looks nice on the table it will definitely cause some issues of sight for players, we will have people standing up to look down. I would probably go no higher than 1 inch if I was to rebuild this
Really good job on this. You've got me wondering if there is a way to dye/tint chipboard before cutting it up, so we can get a base color down before cutting it up into separate stone pavers. Like what you're doing here. **subscribed**
I use a combination of different foam flocking that I've picked up over the years. Some from hobby shops and some from Amazon. I don't know what brands or anything as I don't usually keep the packaging
As many times as I can throw my players into it, that's the fan of being a DM I can make it happen if I really want haha. Or I can just throw a handful of dungeon crawl one shots in the mystery feywild hedge maze
Yer I think that I may have just been rushing at that point haha. most of the measurements are accurate...accept that one. Might also have something to do with my ancient janky saw, but I guess a good workman should never blame his tools. Lesson learnt for next time 😁
Yer I'd love to go out and replace all my old hand-me-down tools but I can't afford all that haha. So for now I've just gotta learn to use them better, and measure twice
Uh... Nice build, really. S'fine and all that. Only really got one question, and, I mean, I think perhaps it's an important one... You do know most players have everything they need to remove a hedge, right? They can just slice and dice vegetation to make their own route? My brain asked 'Does anyone have an axe?' about Planck time into the video. Not to mention, you can look over the tops of hedges, they're not all that challenging if you have zero reason to leave them intact. Especially, you know as soon as a player sees the hedges, the rational response is probably to just set it on fire and wait for a bit. Monsters will have a bad day, and treasure usually survives fire. But, then, looking at your comments, I'm pretty sure you delete things you don't like, so, let's see how quick you'll do that.
You lack imagination my friend. Remember this world has magic. So maybe this is a feywild situation or it's just a maze that's been enchanted. Just gotta switch in your DM brain. "As you try to climb the hedges they seem to grow taller and taller continuing to block your view" "As you cut into the hedge you realise that there is a brick wall behind the hedge" "As you touch the hedge you begin to get sucked in with a razor sharp living vine" Also, I never delete a comment, I'm just lucky to be involved in a this great community.
The options are either that they can or they can't destroy the maze. So I gave you some reasons that they cant. My point is that in this fantasy world things never have to be as they appear and the solution to everything isn't "let's burn it down" But hey, if that's how you wana run your games then go nuts
Your response to the issues is to turn your hedge maze into something utterly indistinguishable from a standard dungeon except green. That's not 'the problems you see aren't problems' that's 'the problems you see can be ignored' If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and lays duck eggs, you have a duck. You have managed to invent a totally new way of doing Stock Default Game Mode 1 - if we paint it green, it's totally different. In my experience, you tell players something like that they ASSUME there's some reason behind it and try to find the trick, when you then tell them again and again that reasonable steps to try fail because you've decided they can't do them, you're going to have irritated players. You're not being imaginative, you're forcing a player base onto rails and patting yourself on the back for doing it. If i tell you, as a player, that upon a closer look the wizard's tower isn't stone, but is instead a writhing mass of worms so embedded with each other there's no telling where one begins and ends, you, well, virtually any player, is going to assume this detail has been added because it is relevant to resolving whatever dilemma is being faced. This is elementary story telling. @@SebMakesStuff
I think you're missing the entire point of this build, if you want this maze to be something the players can just carve their way through then you probably wouldn't be building a big modular terrain set for it. That can all go down in theatre of the mind. I personally am building this for a feywild dungeon crawl. So it is intended to essentially be a big enchanted trap. And yer making it green because sometimes it's fun to mix things up from the stock standard dungeon walls. And who's to say that there isn't a reason for everything in the maze to be the way it is, and that there might not be tricks to get around it. That's up to the individual and their game. I'm not here to tell anyone how to run their games. Some people might want to carve their way through everything, some might expect everything the DM says to be a clue or a trick, and some people might just enjoy a classic dungeon crawl in a pretty garden. But I find that if you establish the rules of the situation then it's not railroading, it's just the situation they are in and have to solve. There's always room for players to break the rules if they come up with something interesting. There's no wrong answers in this game, just the wrong tables.
This is real good. I want to make one now.
I recommend it, it's fun build to make and to have just to look at haha
grateful to youtube for suggesting to me tabletop gordon ramsey
Haha if I shave the beard and start dropping f bombs I could start doing a "craft nightmares" series
@@SebMakesStuffthat would be awesome, you should do it. Or name it Hells Crafting
loooool
A few pillars or some empty arches at the ends of the hedges and edges of paths might have helped stability on the walls and added even further visual variation. This is a great build, using the scouring pads is a brilliant move!
Great ideas. I'm actually working on a few modular archways for the build at the moment to help add some more visual interest. Some pillars would also have been a nice touch. Might have to make a few to add into the scatter 😁 cheers
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
I made some thicket pieces a few weeks ago using green scouring pads. I prefer 1” high “representative” walls so that everyone can see over them
Couldn't agree more! And yer I think I could have gone a little shorter with the walls. But it was just too easy to cut them in half haha.
Klasse, I have know a very good inspiration for the planned Barok Garden. Thank you.
Beautiful! I'm playing around with some other regards scatter for my next video aswell.
This is the best crafting video I’ve seen on RUclips. Looks amazing. Exceptional work!
That's a massive compliment, thankyou kindly.
you the gordon ramsey of dnd terrain
Haha I'll take it. Maybe I need to start a "craft nightmares" series
Blown away! Such a simple idea, but it looks incredible. Almost makes me want to create a hedge maze one-shot!
Simple yet effective! The best combination for craft projects. I'm very keen to run my maze game now!
Excellent video, perfect for what im going for
Brilliant, always love being of assistance
This is perfect! I'm running a fairytale themed campaign right now and plan on a hedge maze scenario later on at the Red Queen's castle. Will definitely be using this!
Perfect! I'm thinking of setting my maze in the feywild aswell
Love the look of the hedge maze. Think I might have to give this a try, but not going to go all out with the flocking and details. Going to try to get 90% of the results either way 10% of the effort.
Thank you.👍
That's the fun of this build, you can do the bare minimum and still have a perfectly playable set up. Hope they play out well on the table
Love it! The extra steps with the flocking, mini stuff and tufts makes it that extra bit magical! 🥰 It’s not a you video until we see those mini frogs come out 😋😘
I've missed the frogs lately, good to get them back. Thanks for always being my no1 supporter 😋
If you had the flagstones pre-painted when you glued them down would it be feasible to have done the static grass then? It would have saved you having to put the glue down between the stones.
Absolutely! This would have been a much better approach!!!!! Haha these are the kind of things I wish I pre thought out haha.....next time!
While watching this, my roommate and her friend came by and said "stop watching thirst traps." So there you go Seb, according to two university students in the US, you're the D&D thirst trap.
Haha I'll take it, seems like all that gym work is paying off.
Looks amazing!! Love it. I have to build this!! The 3d printed animals and mushrooms look fantastic aswell! Can’t wait to see the video on the statues, garden beds and topiaries!
Cheers, it's a super fun build and has me satisfyingly looking at the maze all the time haha. New video going up tomorrow with the scatter 😁
Gotta admit, The star wars top had me on the first frame of the video, also love the build
Haha perfect! Gotta represent the nerdome as much as possible
I would use this in a modular square grid, with the players getting a false sense of security because they can see the entire thing on the table (and have been able to map it out from a nearby hill or house in game), only to pull the rug under them by revealing each line or column can shift one space at random, separating adventurers from the rest of the party and screwing with their plans. Clever players would realize there is no exit, unless you reach a central space where you have to solve a puzzle after a boss battle.
its like youre in side my mind! haha this is basically exactly what im planning
Very cool!
Cheers 😁
This is super cool Seb! I love that you can add the pieces on as the players explore either randomly or via a plan. The 3 options of build quality really help make the video engaging too. Can't wait to see it in game at T&TRPG.
Cheers mate. Yer I like the idea of making things next level but showing people that you can still make something super basic that will work. I know most people don't want to spend hours and extra dollars for one encounter haha
These are so pretty! I love the little mushrooms and critters
Those little details are always my favourite part of a build
Just started my 4x4 board using this method!
Ohhhh exciting! I would love to see how that goes!
This looks insanely fun and i can't wait for the scatter terrain for it!! 💚🌿
The scatter is what makes it In my opinion! And it's sooooo simple to make
This is amazing! Any chance you could upload a pdf of the layouts you used? Thanks for your awesome videos!
I can definitely do that. I'll draw it up during the week and keep you updated
@@SebMakesStuff thank you! It'll be very helpful when I go to make this for Tyranny of Dragons. 😊
ive put together a rough document, its ugly but gives you the idea of what i made
drive.google.com/file/d/1rvtPf5dE2ZnTcBrwkgS9NGrFXpZodKZG/view?usp=sharing
@@SebMakesStuff thank you so much for that. It's perfect!
Happy to help, I'm sure there are more interesting and other cool options aswell. But I found this amount able to make most things I wanted
Really beautifully made 😊
Love all of the tiny details ❤
They bring the pieces together ❤😊❤
Thankyou kindly. And I agree, all those extra little details make such a huge difference on these kind of builds
@@SebMakesStuff you are very welcome ☺️
Well, one positive of accidentally making those pieces too small, is that you could save a bit on storing space by placing the small pieces in the large pieces while not in use.
Yep! Happy accidents haha. The entire system fits nicely in a fairly small box by stacking them inside each other. It worked out well in the end aswell because I made them dead ends, so being smaller they fit easily in the gaps between the main peices
Nice!
I"m a huge fan of modular terrain, but I prefer having the walls separate from the floors. I"ll probably try to make this, but with 1 inch thick walls (xps covered with scourer pads for texture) to be put between the floor tiles, for more modularity.
Another great way to do it. You could make a selection of walls and just have one big base peice that way so you could make any shaped maze section you like...could even have removable sections for secret doorways
These look great mate! Glad I’ve got a backlog of videos to watch from you cus I’m about to go on a binge! Honestly great work with all these details and loved your way of filming/presenting! Just wondering if you think priming would be useful if I wanted to make something similar to these that will get quite rigorous use?
Cheers mate! That means a lot! Hopefully you can find some other bits and pieces of inspo from my other byulds. As for this build, I'm not sure about primer, it couldn't hurt, but really everything is covered with glue which is a pretty good protective layer by the end. Also After filming I ended up hitting these with a fairly heavy layer of Matt clear coat as a way to give it some extra strength against use. Primer is never a bad idea tho haha
Great work
Thankyou kindly
very cool. was looking for a easy method for doing that. i just say it - i will steal this :DDDD
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw them! Steal away!
It does rely on the players not using Nanoha's maze solving technique and cutting/blasting through the hedges.
Well that all depends on how you choose to play the maze. My intention is a feywild enchanted maze so things will be changing and destroying the walls won't be as simple as some might expect. But then again you could make some modular destroyed wall if you wanted to let your players just smash their way through
This is great, I'm glad to have found this video. Appreciate the editing and nice work and respect to the idea's owner. I have a question though, if I can't use spray adhesive, what could I use?
Thanks. I'm sure you could manage with just about any kind of glue. You would just have to make a few changes to the approach. Like wood glue and super rglue would work, but you would probably need to do sections one at a time and wait for it to dry so the flocking doesn't fall off. The spray glue is handy as it goes tacky. You could even try using a green acrylic paint and covering it with flick as it dries for your first layer. Then filling in the gaps with other glues
@@SebMakesStuff that's a good idea. Thanks!
C'mon... Who didn't think of the hedge maze in "The Shining"?! Nice idea!
I'm so mad I didn't think of it while I was editing. That short of him looking over the maze would have been a great addition to the video
Love it looks fantastic. I think ill have a stab at making it my self.
Love that! Would love to see how your maze comes out!
Just thinking of a way to make an even more modular maze. Fold the scrubby pad over a decently thick wire, like the ground wire in Romex (thats the in wall electric wire here, any building site will have lots of off cuts). Glue the pad to itself and flock. Now you can bend the hadge to whatever shape you want and it's thick enough to stand on its own.
Ohh I like this! Bendy hedges would be great. I might have to experiment with this idea at some point
What a great build! Looks epic!
Cheers, I was so stoked with the end result
This build sent me over the hedge.
Hahaha well played my friend, well played
Gives me overlook hotel maze vibes
Oh dam, I missed a perfect meme opportunity to put in the shot where they're looking over the maze model.
Just wonderful, they are perfect 😊
Thankyou 😁 I was stoked with the end result. Can't wait to get them in the tabel
Looks very nice, indeed!
I'd personally make the hedges shorter for playability's sake, and probably use styrofoam instead of scrubbing pads. You can get nice-looking shrubs and tree foliage with lumps of styrofoam, so I think it could work nicely as hedges, as well.
Yer I've seen some really nice styrofoam hedges in the past (I've even made some haha), but I think the results with the scourers is a lot nicer in the end as it kind of has that look of the small branches when you look at it up close. And the added bonus that if anything falls apart or breaks then the underlying layer still looks right, where as foam breaking or cracking will need a full repair. And I think you're right about the height, while mine looks nice on the table it will definitely cause some issues of sight for players, we will have people standing up to look down. I would probably go no higher than 1 inch if I was to rebuild this
Very original!
Cheers
Really good job on this. You've got me wondering if there is a way to dye/tint chipboard before cutting it up, so we can get a base color down before cutting it up into separate stone pavers.
Like what you're doing here. **subscribed**
Oh now that is a very interesting though.....pre colouring the chipboard would be a game changer!!!! I may have to look into this 🤔
this is realy cool
Cheers 😁
Love this build!
Cheers mate, me too haha
Awesome!
Cheers mate
Very good idea! Great content thanks 😊
Thankyou 😁
With this you are my favourite creator on RUclips! 🤩I always wanted to make an Alice in Wonderland Maze, now I know, how!
That's a huge compliment, thankyou kindly. Ohh I hope your maze comes out looking super whimsical 😁
I wanna try this for kill team
Oh that would be a fun game of killteam. Would be cool to do some half destroyed hedges to mix in there
So cool 👍
Thankyou 😁
I love this :D
Thankyou kindly
what kind of flockings do you use?
I use a combination of different foam flocking that I've picked up over the years. Some from hobby shops and some from Amazon. I don't know what brands or anything as I don't usually keep the packaging
Nice, but I wonder how many times you'll be playing with this set?
As many times as I can throw my players into it, that's the fan of being a DM I can make it happen if I really want haha. Or I can just throw a handful of dungeon crawl one shots in the mystery feywild hedge maze
What’s the name of the material user for the walls? I couldnt catch it ob the video
They're scouring pads, usually used in the kitchen for cleaning
@@SebMakesStufftk you very much
do lattice archways.
Ohh that's a cool idea! It added to the list. I already have an idea for how to approach it
@@SebMakesStuff Use yarn sewing thingies.
Очень круто! Пожалуйста продолжай в том же духе!
Thankyou 😁 no plans to stop any time soon
Did you run the one shot yet?
Not yet, still making bits of Terrain to fill in all the maze sections. Got some cool fountains coming next week
Pellinor1´s free 3D models are trully small jewels.
They are the best free STL I have ever found!
Looks like you forgot to take the thickness of the saw blade into account when measuring.
Yer I think that I may have just been rushing at that point haha. most of the measurements are accurate...accept that one. Might also have something to do with my ancient janky saw, but I guess a good workman should never blame his tools. Lesson learnt for next time 😁
@@SebMakesStuff A wobbling or crooked blade might also cause an issue, but in that case, you'd have bigger problems.
Yer I'd love to go out and replace all my old hand-me-down tools but I can't afford all that haha. So for now I've just gotta learn to use them better, and measure twice
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I was planning to do a maze when i hit 100 sub so some of the tip might help me out when making one. =D
I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for that, always love to see how others approach similar builds
Uh...
Nice build, really. S'fine and all that. Only really got one question, and, I mean, I think perhaps it's an important one...
You do know most players have everything they need to remove a hedge, right? They can just slice and dice vegetation to make their own route? My brain asked 'Does anyone have an axe?' about Planck time into the video.
Not to mention, you can look over the tops of hedges, they're not all that challenging if you have zero reason to leave them intact. Especially, you know as soon as a player sees the hedges, the rational response is probably to just set it on fire and wait for a bit. Monsters will have a bad day, and treasure usually survives fire.
But, then, looking at your comments, I'm pretty sure you delete things you don't like, so, let's see how quick you'll do that.
You lack imagination my friend. Remember this world has magic. So maybe this is a feywild situation or it's just a maze that's been enchanted. Just gotta switch in your DM brain.
"As you try to climb the hedges they seem to grow taller and taller continuing to block your view"
"As you cut into the hedge you realise that there is a brick wall behind the hedge"
"As you touch the hedge you begin to get sucked in with a razor sharp living vine"
Also, I never delete a comment, I'm just lucky to be involved in a this great community.
XD Your solution to players working out how to overcome this is just to tell them they can't?
OK, Chucky, have fun with your friends.
@@SebMakesStuff
The options are either that they can or they can't destroy the maze. So I gave you some reasons that they cant.
My point is that in this fantasy world things never have to be as they appear and the solution to everything isn't "let's burn it down"
But hey, if that's how you wana run your games then go nuts
Your response to the issues is to turn your hedge maze into something utterly indistinguishable from a standard dungeon except green. That's not 'the problems you see aren't problems' that's 'the problems you see can be ignored' If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and lays duck eggs, you have a duck. You have managed to invent a totally new way of doing Stock Default Game Mode 1 - if we paint it green, it's totally different.
In my experience, you tell players something like that they ASSUME there's some reason behind it and try to find the trick, when you then tell them again and again that reasonable steps to try fail because you've decided they can't do them, you're going to have irritated players.
You're not being imaginative, you're forcing a player base onto rails and patting yourself on the back for doing it.
If i tell you, as a player, that upon a closer look the wizard's tower isn't stone, but is instead a writhing mass of worms so embedded with each other there's no telling where one begins and ends, you, well, virtually any player, is going to assume this detail has been added because it is relevant to resolving whatever dilemma is being faced. This is elementary story telling. @@SebMakesStuff
I think you're missing the entire point of this build, if you want this maze to be something the players can just carve their way through then you probably wouldn't be building a big modular terrain set for it. That can all go down in theatre of the mind.
I personally am building this for a feywild dungeon crawl. So it is intended to essentially be a big enchanted trap. And yer making it green because sometimes it's fun to mix things up from the stock standard dungeon walls.
And who's to say that there isn't a reason for everything in the maze to be the way it is, and that there might not be tricks to get around it. That's up to the individual and their game. I'm not here to tell anyone how to run their games.
Some people might want to carve their way through everything, some might expect everything the DM says to be a clue or a trick, and some people might just enjoy a classic dungeon crawl in a pretty garden.
But I find that if you establish the rules of the situation then it's not railroading, it's just the situation they are in and have to solve. There's always room for players to break the rules if they come up with something interesting.
There's no wrong answers in this game, just the wrong tables.
Very cool
Cheers