As nice and as capable as this is I'd still take a Fleming over a Nordhavn any day. The extra speed that a semi displacement hull gives you is godsend when you need to outrun some bad weather. A great review as always Jack. Thanks
The N51 is the smallest medel in the new generation of Nordhavns that can give you a feeling of a proper cross-ocean yacht. The N41 is gorgeous but it's just too small that it even doesn't have a pilot house, let alone the laundry room and so on. Adding 10 feet makes a huge difference that N51 just looks like a different kind of boat.
I like it! I watched the owner video from hull #2, and he had a ton of commissioning problems after it was delivered, which made me wonder how normal that was, and if the yard had sorted their quality procedures out.
No fixed seating in the aft cockpit & the bow bench are brilliant- the most Zen view is almost always back to the wake or from the very front. Separate washer & dryer in the engine room is also eminently practical; those combo units are useless for drying & the noisy cycle takes HOURS. Love the huge single sink in the galley, too. Clearly listened to their clients' feedback. Kudos Nordhavn.
The problem Nordhavn have is they've consistently & thoroughly spoilt their followers with exquisite luxury finishing both inside & out, which is why the exterior of this offering, with its endless blanketing of white sterile plastic, gives the impression that it's a Nordhavn that's been stripped & looted. The interior was uninspiring too & would definitely benefit from a bit more elbow room on the beam. In conclusion, it looks overpriced.
Would love to have seen: 1. The cockpit cleats recessed into the bulkhead so wobbly-legged lubbers don’t scrape their shins on them; and 2. That pilot house dinette table slide north-south, to facilitate easier ingress when rocking at sea; and 3. All that pretty walnut in the pilot house should be black/dark grey (sorry, less pretty but way better at night); and 4. NON-recessed overhead grab rails in the salon. Recessed grab rails; really silly. Other than that, yup, it’s a rock-solid, SAFE long-hauler, and that’s what you’re paying $2mm for. Safety and dependability.
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Thanks for the review, Jack - Love your work! I think this particular Nordhavn N51 is stunning, however, the only thing I'd add is maybe have double helm seats on the flybridge - If Nordhavn has the option to add an extra helm chair, I would seriously consider buying one - perfect for "America's Great Loop" (I'd also want to add a bimini enclosure for the flybridge)
G’day Jack. A question that I can’t quite get my head around. This yacht has twin 160’s. Why wouldn’t it perform the same with twin say twin 175hp outboards? Cheers, Michael 🇦🇺
To answer your query and sorry for the long reply but its not a quick answer: Design Philosophy Displacement boats like the Nordhavn 51 are built for long-range cruising and efficiency, not high speeds. Their hull design and propulsion systems are optimized for steady, economical operation over long distances. Efficiency and Range Inboard diesel engines are significantly more fuel-efficient than outboard motors, especially at the low speeds typical of displacement hulls. This allows for much greater range, which is crucial for long-distance passagemaking. Reliability and Durability Marine diesel engines are renowned for their reliability and longevity. They are designed to run continuously for extended periods, which is essential for ocean crossings and extended cruising. Propeller Design Displacement hulls work best with large, slow-turning propellers. Inboard engines allow for optimal propeller placement and size, which is not possible with outboards. Noise and Vibration Inboard engines, when properly installed, produce less noise and vibration compared to outboards, enhancing comfort during long voyages. Seaworthiness Having the engines inside the hull, below the waterline, improves stability and handling in rough seas. Outboards would be exposed and vulnerable in heavy weather. Fuel Capacity Inboard engines allow for much larger fuel tanks to be integrated into the hull design, which is crucial for the long-range capabilities of vessels like the Nordhavn 51 Power Characteristics The John Deere engines used in the Nordhavn 51 are chosen for their low-end torque and ability to operate efficiently at low RPMs, which is ideal for displacement hulls. Outboard motors are generally designed for higher RPM operation. While outboard motors have their place in certain types of boats, they are not suitable for the design goals and intended use of displacement trawlers like the Nordhavn 51. The inboard diesel engine configuration is fundamental to achieving the long-range, efficient, and seaworthy characteristics that define these vessels.
@@Leosarebetter So technically, hp is hp and the outboards could propel this yacht at similar speeds, it’s just that outboards are not as well suited to the task at hand?
@@SpatialGuy77 HP is HP - but torque (which outboards dont have in comparison) and propeller size/pitch and hull design are some of the deciding factors. Personally i have always lent towards diesel engine, either leg or shaft drive over any outboard petrol or (aghast) inboard petrol. Carrying around a few tonne of very high explosive fuel where just one spark will go BOOM is not my idea of relaxation.
Yet another sensible tour, the kind YachtBuyer is becoming known for. Even with the wide angle lens, it feels a bit cramped as a liveaboard to me. Perhaps they are hoping to compete, layout feature by feather, with 56 or 58 footers. The fly bridge looked overly bright indeed, even via the camera. I'll look forward to how you spec its rivals, Jack. Thanks for the tour!
That's an incredible boat. Yes, it is over 2 million, but there's a lot of boat for the money. Pretty much the only thing this demo boat is lacking is a MF/HF (GMDSS) on the bridge, other than that I'd be happy to take it over the Atlantic. The other thing that I noticed was that does the N51 have a good spot for the compacted trash? During longer voyages that becomes a problem and larger transatlantic yachts have dedicated freezers for that.
A 54 or 57 in this new style would be roomier and more ideal to spend a month or two on the water. I think them not adding a cover for the flybridge was a big miss.
"designed to clear that away"... yea, every time I see loose furniture on a yacht, I wonder... where in heaven's name are they gonna put it all when underway in not-so-nice weather? Great tour as always :)
Nor one of your speedy Lady's of the Sea. She a explorer, a Norhaven who moves at the speed that allows you to take in your surroundings. Her exterior is practical with safety in mind. The Flybridge has the greatest view. But the interior is contemporary, stylish light colored wood. Love the master cabin at the front, lots of storage for long term voyages. The salon and galley very family oriented, very sociable space. The guest cabin is not as large but more than adequate, twin or double beds. Engine room, accessable to inspect everything for an owner owed boat. The only thing I'm not keen on is all the white it would be headaches inducing for me. But apart from that I like her.
Any professional yacht broker advises not to spend more than 10% of net worth on a yacht so you need 22 million to responsibly be considering this thing. No thanks. It’s worth a million two max
Nordhavns are nice but so damn slow. I get it’s a long range yacht but tops out at 11kts… at some point you want to get somewhere. I couldn’t do a 20 hour passage Miami to key west.
You cannot be serious. "Attract at younger public" at the same time the price "FROM TWO point TWO MILLION DOLLARS" show up on the screen. Which young public can pay a tenth of that amount, which also need like a budget of 100 K a year in service costs? What a joke.
Some Young Kick streamers come to mind. Aiden Ross earns $100mil a year. Some others earn $5-10 mil It's not your Fathers economy anymore. I didn't even mention the Crypto (scammers) millionaire's 😂🤣😝💰😎
As a former N47 and N57 owner all you need to know is listen to the cheap RV crap fiberboard cabinets opening and closing. Sounds like a catamaran. Spend your 2 mil on a real N from 15 years ago. Made in Turkey? Bwahaha.
Read our in-depth REVIEW with pricing, rivals, deck plans and data: www.yachtbuyer.com/en/reviews/nordhavn-51-2022
Definitely a Nordhavn, beautiful throughout with nice finishes and a nice layout. Nice tour Jack thank you.
Our pleasure Sean, cheers! - Jack
As nice and as capable as this is I'd still take a Fleming over a Nordhavn any day. The extra speed that a semi displacement hull gives you is godsend when you need to outrun some bad weather.
A great review as always Jack. Thanks
The N51 is the smallest medel in the new generation of Nordhavns that can give you a feeling of a proper cross-ocean yacht.
The N41 is gorgeous but it's just too small that it even doesn't have a pilot house, let alone the laundry room and so on. Adding 10 feet makes a huge difference that N51 just looks like a different kind of boat.
Agreed, they've used the extra space well - Jack
I like it! I watched the owner video from hull #2, and he had a ton of commissioning problems after it was delivered, which made me wonder how normal that was, and if the yard had sorted their quality procedures out.
No fixed seating in the aft cockpit & the bow bench are brilliant- the most Zen view is almost always back to the wake or from the very front. Separate washer & dryer in the engine room is also eminently practical; those combo units are useless for drying & the noisy cycle takes HOURS. Love the huge single sink in the galley, too. Clearly listened to their clients' feedback. Kudos Nordhavn.
Proper little ship. Nice one 👍 ... 🇬🇧
Beautiful, strong, perfect LRC for an active couple with occasional guests or family of 4.
The problem Nordhavn have is they've consistently & thoroughly spoilt their followers with exquisite luxury finishing both inside & out, which is why the exterior of this offering, with its endless blanketing of white sterile plastic, gives the impression that it's a Nordhavn that's been stripped & looted.
The interior was uninspiring too & would definitely benefit from a bit more elbow room on the beam.
In conclusion, it looks overpriced.
thanks for this one, jack. been waiting for this one.
My pleasure! - J
Oooh baby, that´s my Nordhavn.....love it
Good review Jack 👍
Thanks 👍
Would love to have seen: 1. The cockpit cleats recessed into the bulkhead so wobbly-legged lubbers don’t scrape their shins on them; and 2. That pilot house dinette table slide north-south, to facilitate easier ingress when rocking at sea; and 3. All that pretty walnut in the pilot house should be black/dark grey (sorry, less pretty but way better at night); and 4. NON-recessed overhead grab rails in the salon. Recessed grab rails; really silly. Other than that, yup, it’s a rock-solid, SAFE long-hauler, and that’s what you’re paying $2mm for. Safety and dependability.
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Thank you very much for this video!
It's our pleasure!
Thanks for the review, Jack - Love your work! I think this particular Nordhavn N51 is stunning, however, the only thing I'd add is maybe have double helm seats on the flybridge - If Nordhavn has the option to add an extra helm chair, I would seriously consider buying one - perfect for "America's Great Loop" (I'd also want to add a bimini enclosure for the flybridge)
Cheers Craig, I believe both of those are options - Jack
G’day Jack. A question that I can’t quite get my head around. This yacht has twin 160’s. Why wouldn’t it perform the same with twin say twin 175hp outboards? Cheers, Michael 🇦🇺
To answer your query and sorry for the long reply but its not a quick answer:
Design Philosophy
Displacement boats like the Nordhavn 51 are built for long-range cruising and efficiency, not high speeds. Their hull design and propulsion systems are optimized for steady, economical operation over long distances.
Efficiency and Range
Inboard diesel engines are significantly more fuel-efficient than outboard motors, especially at the low speeds typical of displacement hulls. This allows for much greater range, which is crucial for long-distance passagemaking.
Reliability and Durability
Marine diesel engines are renowned for their reliability and longevity. They are designed to run continuously for extended periods, which is essential for ocean crossings and extended cruising.
Propeller Design
Displacement hulls work best with large, slow-turning propellers. Inboard engines allow for optimal propeller placement and size, which is not possible with outboards.
Noise and Vibration
Inboard engines, when properly installed, produce less noise and vibration compared to outboards, enhancing comfort during long voyages.
Seaworthiness
Having the engines inside the hull, below the waterline, improves stability and handling in rough seas. Outboards would be exposed and vulnerable in heavy weather.
Fuel Capacity
Inboard engines allow for much larger fuel tanks to be integrated into the hull design, which is crucial for the long-range capabilities of vessels like the Nordhavn 51
Power Characteristics
The John Deere engines used in the Nordhavn 51 are chosen for their low-end torque and ability to operate efficiently at low RPMs, which is ideal for displacement hulls. Outboard motors are generally designed for higher RPM operation. While outboard motors have their place in certain types of boats, they are not suitable for the design goals and intended use of displacement trawlers like the Nordhavn 51. The inboard diesel engine configuration is fundamental to achieving the long-range, efficient, and seaworthy characteristics that define these vessels.
Excellence answer from @Leosarebetter. Couldn’t have put it better myself! - Jack
@@Leosarebetter So technically, hp is hp and the outboards could propel this yacht at similar speeds, it’s just that outboards are not as well suited to the task at hand?
@@SpatialGuy77 HP is HP - but torque (which outboards dont have in comparison) and propeller size/pitch and hull design are some of the deciding factors. Personally i have always lent towards diesel engine, either leg or shaft drive over any outboard petrol or (aghast) inboard petrol. Carrying around a few tonne of very high explosive fuel where just one spark will go BOOM is not my idea of relaxation.
Yet another sensible tour, the kind YachtBuyer is becoming known for. Even with the wide angle lens, it feels a bit cramped as a liveaboard to me. Perhaps they are hoping to compete, layout feature by feather, with 56 or 58 footers. The fly bridge looked overly bright indeed, even via the camera. I'll look forward to how you spec its rivals, Jack. Thanks for the tour!
Thanks Jack, glad you like our approach - Jack
That's an incredible boat. Yes, it is over 2 million, but there's a lot of boat for the money. Pretty much the only thing this demo boat is lacking is a MF/HF (GMDSS) on the bridge, other than that I'd be happy to take it over the Atlantic.
The other thing that I noticed was that does the N51 have a good spot for the compacted trash? During longer voyages that becomes a problem and larger transatlantic yachts have dedicated freezers for that.
It's got a large amount of storage in the lazarette that could probably be put to use for that... - Jack
Great boat. great review.
Thanks!
Tremendous boat.
Your videos are not just a spectacle, they are a real journey of knowledge and discovery. Keep up the good work!🎄🦣🏅
Thanks Jack! 😅
Cheers Chris!
A 54 or 57 in this new style would be roomier and more ideal to spend a month or two on the water. I think them not adding a cover for the flybridge was a big miss.
Top speed is only 11 kn ? well I guess I just won’t able to pick up any women with this particular yacht. Nice walk-through Cheers, Jack.
Slow and steady on this one, Jeff... - Jack
Awanui NZ has a sibling.
Could you review the Nordhavn 625?
We’d love to!
The Mercedes air vents in the cockpit are a quirky touch.
"designed to clear that away"... yea, every time I see loose furniture on a yacht, I wonder... where in heaven's name are they gonna put it all when underway in not-so-nice weather? Great tour as always :)
Thanks!
Nor one of your speedy Lady's of the Sea. She a explorer, a Norhaven who moves at the speed that allows you to take in your surroundings. Her exterior is practical with safety in mind. The Flybridge has the greatest view.
But the interior is contemporary, stylish light colored wood. Love the master cabin at the front, lots of storage for long term voyages. The salon and galley very family oriented, very sociable space. The guest cabin is not as large but more than adequate, twin or double beds.
Engine room, accessable to inspect everything for an owner owed boat.
The only thing I'm not keen on is all the white it would be headaches inducing for me. But apart from that I like her.
Prefer a Bering Nordhavn sometimes too utilitarian it is still well built though but accommodation is poor for a 51ft boat
Any professional yacht broker advises not to spend more than 10% of net worth on a yacht so you need 22 million to responsibly be considering this thing. No thanks. It’s worth a million two max
Nordhavns are nice but so damn slow. I get it’s a long range yacht but tops out at 11kts… at some point you want to get somewhere. I couldn’t do a 20 hour passage Miami to key west.
The telly is on the wrong side.
Can't help thinking that this looks like a Nordhavn copy built by Bavaria boats.
You cannot be serious. "Attract at younger public" at the same time the price "FROM TWO point TWO MILLION DOLLARS" show up on the screen. Which young public can pay a tenth of that amount, which also need like a budget of 100 K a year in service costs? What a joke.
I mean it literally has attracted a younger buyer, though that buyer probably still isn’t that young…
Some Young Kick streamers come to mind. Aiden Ross earns $100mil a year. Some others earn $5-10 mil It's not your Fathers economy anymore. I didn't even mention the Crypto (scammers) millionaire's 😂🤣😝💰😎
No way would i pay that amount of money for that boat. I wanted to love it but hate it.
The secret in my opinion: it is the Mercedes-Benz G-Class of the yachts.
Not sure how Nordhavn would feel about that one 😅
More like a G-Class with 100bhp 3-cylinder.
@@mwinner101 I remember the G 230 with 4 cylinders and an incredible 150 hp.😂
@@chrilliB123 This is about the equivalent to that old timer. This is not the 2024 G63, that’s for sure. Paddle boarders will be passing this boat.
Can I get one for Christmas please
Serious chimney at your place? - J
A Nordhavn passage maker without a Portuguese Bridge. Not for me.
As a former N47 and N57 owner all you need to know is listen to the cheap RV crap fiberboard cabinets opening and closing. Sounds like a catamaran. Spend your 2 mil on a real N from 15 years ago. Made in Turkey? Bwahaha.
Sorry to say this, but...
I am Jack hayens, welcome to Jack ass. 😂 i hear it like 2 years or so....
😄
China crap mucho?🎉
Love them but they have been in neutral forever. Same old blah with nothing new and the market is saturated with similar modernized versions.
And based on the experience of Awanui NZ about as reliable as a baby’s arse
For hull #1 of a brand new boat Awanui has been relatively trouble free. The systems that have gone wrong aren't really to do with Nordhavn.
Still a floating plastic