Irish senators: Free speech in Ireland under threat | Full panel discussion

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 178

  • @sarahmurphy-nf4yl
    @sarahmurphy-nf4yl 4 месяца назад +142

    Helen McEntee should be fired and charged for her incompetence and her hatred of the Irish people.

    • @MonaLisa-lu8zi
      @MonaLisa-lu8zi 4 месяца назад

      Unfortunately, she lives up to the proverbial image of the dumb blonde.

    • @MonaLisa-lu8zi
      @MonaLisa-lu8zi 4 месяца назад +1

      Living up to the image... The proverbial dumb blonde

    • @michaeloconnor3138
      @michaeloconnor3138 4 месяца назад +1

      Under what act do you think she should be charged?

    • @Michael-jy5rn
      @Michael-jy5rn 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@@michaeloconnor3138stupidity

    • @AnnLawton
      @AnnLawton 4 месяца назад +3

      How she is still in her job is unbelievable. We do not want this new hate speech legislation. EU migration pact was passed without any discussion or debate because gov't knew lrish people would not want us to opt in. They have no regard for what lrish people want for this country.

  • @marymcneill9914
    @marymcneill9914 4 месяца назад +112

    It's really not about hate speech, it's about the suppression of truth.

    • @ZabZab-s3i
      @ZabZab-s3i 4 месяца назад +12

      The real reason behind the legislation is to stop criticism or insulting of Muhammad.

    • @margaretmorrissey4540
      @margaretmorrissey4540 4 месяца назад +8

      That's exactly what it is to shut people up when there telling the truth about anything

    • @edscannell1019
      @edscannell1019 4 месяца назад +4

      It’s speech THEY hate!

    • @s.m.m6710
      @s.m.m6710 4 месяца назад +3

      They say they're for diversity but no diversity of thought is tolerated

  • @Ronny.81
    @Ronny.81 4 месяца назад +81

    S. Harris and Helen Mc entee need to go for the better of the country

    • @europeanliving6077
      @europeanliving6077 4 месяца назад +10

      Need to go to jail! and be stripped off all they own.

  • @eamon-fitzpatrick
    @eamon-fitzpatrick 4 месяца назад +36

    Great admiration and appreciation for the speakers in this video for highlighting and speaking against this evil law

    • @paulcolin9071
      @paulcolin9071 4 месяца назад +5

      Controlled

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 4 месяца назад

      And it is evil, it's not filling a hole left by the loss of God, it's actually what the. Christian message was for. Without a shared common ethical understanding we descend into a bickering mob with no shared values at all. The story of the tower of Babel comes to mind. And so it goes.

  • @verali164
    @verali164 4 месяца назад +61

    That woman who the soldier beat up , was at the pride parade and wants the hate speech brought in. And some mayor in Ireland wants a statue put up of her, what about ashling murphy, wheres her statue, when her boyfriend spoke out he was hit with a mouthful of abuse from a certain crowd. What about the gay men in sligo where are their statues, and all the women that were beaten or murdered. Whats so special about her,, she is milking it.

    • @O3177O
      @O3177O 4 месяца назад

      She is actress , is it contrived to push the agenda? News is faked

    • @evelynvanzale4757
      @evelynvanzale4757 4 месяца назад +11

      Let them put their statue up, but how long it will stand is anybody's guess!! It seems a few years ago, an unfortunate trend started where we rip down those who've achieved something and elevate those who've achieved precisely nothing, and indeed, perpetrated rather a lot of damage e.g. George Floyd!

    • @davidking7298
      @davidking7298 4 месяца назад +9

      I was with her to be fair until she started with the pride and hate speech laws shit.
      She is an attention seeker. I saw an interview of her speaking about the attack. She was smiling, and it was if she was chatting about a great night out. It put me off her.
      Like the comment before, where are all the marches for the victims of immigrants? I'll probably be in jail for this comment next year...

    • @lc86_65
      @lc86_65 4 месяца назад

      She is a pawn, and the government is going to use her as a distraction to pass more laws to keep us all in line... plenty of more violent and serious crimes committed by foreigners against women and children and there hasn't been one protest, one peep about it!

    • @bidbadgray
      @bidbadgray 4 месяца назад +4

      We don't need statues, still waiting for the one for the survivors of clerical abuse. would that just be a reminder of the failures of many departments within governments past and present

  • @sarahmurphy-nf4yl
    @sarahmurphy-nf4yl 4 месяца назад +83

    Ireland us becomming backward and totalartarian under current government

    • @Lynda-z9v
      @Lynda-z9v 4 месяца назад +6

      You ain't seen nothing yet.

    • @evelynvanzale4757
      @evelynvanzale4757 4 месяца назад +8

      Hence Mehole Martin telling us 'We want nothing to do with the backward idea of sovereignty' and 'Ireland's future will remain a European future'! I'm sure our ancestors and those who died for Ireland would be delighted to hear it ... NOT!!

    • @Awakenedsoul1583
      @Awakenedsoul1583 4 месяца назад

      Its happening all over Europe. We all need to say no to this control.

    • @FAILED00CREATION
      @FAILED00CREATION 4 месяца назад

      ADF are a right wing evangelical religious organisation... what the fuck do you think they will restrict.. everything that Jesus doesn't like they just sugar coat it with freedom bullshit

  • @unahanlon7562
    @unahanlon7562 4 месяца назад +31

    Shows you just how crazy society and those in supposed power are that we are even having this conversation.

  • @thomascooney6644
    @thomascooney6644 4 месяца назад +27

    Good we fought for it long enough without throwing it away !

  • @charlesd3a
    @charlesd3a 4 месяца назад +17

    Our Constitution should be protected ouf speech should be protected.

  • @vickyoconnor7396
    @vickyoconnor7396 4 месяца назад +13

    Never let your voice go. Speak out we will hear you. That the way it has always been.

  • @Poppy456-l4c
    @Poppy456-l4c 4 месяца назад +24

    It’s Orwellian. Democracy is in severe danger.

    • @columboyle527
      @columboyle527 4 месяца назад +4

      Democracy is what's brought us here. Majority/Mob rule. We're supposed to be a Constitutional Republic

    • @Lala-kc2fw
      @Lala-kc2fw 4 месяца назад

      ​@@columboyle527we're an oligarchy

  • @eyeintheskiesdavid9277
    @eyeintheskiesdavid9277 4 месяца назад +21

    Do they think I have a right to tell people what they can say 🤣😅😂 never in Ireland 🇮🇪 ✊🇮🇪

  • @kieranbrennan7350
    @kieranbrennan7350 4 месяца назад +21

    Great debate 👏
    And welcome the legend Andrew Doyle!

  • @popdetailers545
    @popdetailers545 4 месяца назад +12

    In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
    George Orwell

  • @mariehaverty8209
    @mariehaverty8209 4 месяца назад +40

    We are voting in what we don't want, why is this?

    • @evelynvanzale4757
      @evelynvanzale4757 4 месяца назад

      It's because those who purport to uphold our democratic rights refuse to do so aka tyranny!

    • @eireisrising
      @eireisrising 4 месяца назад

      Because it is controlled, i saw it first hand during the local elections wheni ran, the whole system needs to be broken back down and fixed.. too much control in the wrong hands..

    • @freedomcontrolled6190
      @freedomcontrolled6190 4 месяца назад +9

      Public servants & NGO's voting for their salaries & pensions & a bloated public & NGO sector always making sure they vote!

    • @paulcolin9071
      @paulcolin9071 4 месяца назад +3

      Nobody is voting in anything

    • @mariehaverty8209
      @mariehaverty8209 4 месяца назад +1

      @freedomcontrolled6190 so I'm wasting energy voting so, how do we break this concept? 😤

  • @chachatruth
    @chachatruth 4 месяца назад +29

    These people in government wer voted in by the people
    But thr sence of power has gone to thr head!
    Have they forgotten that it's the taxpayers pay them!

    • @paulcolin9071
      @paulcolin9071 4 месяца назад

      No the dopey citizens have forgotten about holding them accountable. The senators are just extra trash on the gravy train voted for by forever student geeks though

    • @kevindoom
      @kevindoom 4 месяца назад +4

      we democratically voted against the speech laws by 74% we should have our democracy

  • @moneybags-s4i
    @moneybags-s4i 4 месяца назад +19

    It should be called 'The shut up law'

  • @johnobrien2207
    @johnobrien2207 4 месяца назад +16

    Freedom to have a referendum on migration pack would have been the noble thing to do.?

    • @latchmere100
      @latchmere100 4 месяца назад +3

      That will never happen 😢

  • @mariehaverty8209
    @mariehaverty8209 4 месяца назад +16

    Awareness of what's happening is priceless, I think the streets have the answers, but it must be done with dignity, hate is just a word. 😮

  • @lindsaytwort8655
    @lindsaytwort8655 4 месяца назад +5

    This will make everyone feel as if they are walking on ….egg shells! No one will give their opinion! Absolutely Bin this legislation. It is outrageous! George Orwell. Everyone should read this book in schools.

  • @GMAN420BC
    @GMAN420BC 4 месяца назад +27

    It is the UN requiring member countries to implement it. Canada is doing the same thing. Bill C 63 - Online harms bill.
    It will be interesting to see what happens in the USA. The UN requirements of the bill directly contravene their constitution.

    • @GMAN420BC
      @GMAN420BC 4 месяца назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/od3Y97WsuOc/видео.htmlsi=OTPp8tMUQS7Kyttf

    • @TrueLife-o2j
      @TrueLife-o2j 4 месяца назад +18

      No to blasphemy laws, no to laws criminalising critical speech.

    • @paulcolin9071
      @paulcolin9071 4 месяца назад +1

      The Irish Constitution has been toilet paper for a while now 🤣

    • @patriciakimball8150
      @patriciakimball8150 4 месяца назад

      The UN? Complete BS. Iran heading up Human Rights, its voting record over the years, the complete abdication of UNIFIL & Resolution 1701, ignoring atrocities against Christians in Africa by jihadists….long list of reasons why this organization is worse than worthless.

  • @user_w3n
    @user_w3n 4 месяца назад +4

    Free speech is god given and enjoyed all over the world , let our intelligent people speak their minds without the police threats on behalf of failed politicians who lie to our nation and achieve nothing for our people .

  • @margueritegenockey4171
    @margueritegenockey4171 4 месяца назад +6

    Well done Ronan, Lorcan and Sharon and those who organised this discussion. It is very informative. Its a pity it wasn't aired before this legislation was passed. Ronan I didn't realize you were so witty. 😂

  • @elizabethmurray5781
    @elizabethmurray5781 4 месяца назад +5

    Wonderful woman we are lucky to have her ❤❤❤❤

  • @bidbadgray
    @bidbadgray 4 месяца назад +2

    From my understanding the public are right behind you on this issue.

  • @lenwilkinson672
    @lenwilkinson672 4 месяца назад +7

    The people not the government are the ones who decide freedom of speech.and parliament legislate its supposed to be democracy. Parliament exists by the will of the people. Not the other way round. Wake up people you call the shots.

  • @fionnolamorris94
    @fionnolamorris94 4 месяца назад +11

    RUclips counts 21 comments? I count 6 comments, plus 2 replies. Why is RUclips mathematically- challenged? Go back to school. If you are going to censor, remove the bad words - we can cope with the other parts of comments.

  • @sonnyirish3678
    @sonnyirish3678 4 месяца назад +4

    Lock McCuntee up with her new friends from Africa.

  • @akacoogan3333
    @akacoogan3333 4 месяца назад +5

    Like ever thing we will have no choice 😡

  • @kevindoom
    @kevindoom 4 месяца назад +3

    they say they have parliamentary privelege folks when did we give them that?

  • @roseannatyrrell4498
    @roseannatyrrell4498 4 месяца назад +6

    So why do the people not get to have a vote on whether or not we get deprived of the right to speak our minds freely. Why is the EU allowed to govern us without being our elected representatives. How long is our Government going to kneel down and let EU /WEF representatives order us about. It's time the government grew a spine.

    • @eireisrising
      @eireisrising 4 месяца назад +2

      We can blame that referenda, that they made us vote on TWICE for that one, they did not except our initial vote, and we should never have allowed them to re do it.. Democracy is dead in éIRe , we just have not realised it yet.. when we do, only then can we change things..

    • @basicconcepts1d
      @basicconcepts1d 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@eireisrisingYour bang on there Eire. That is the origin of Irelands problems today. Good luck with the next referendum. God bless Ireland.

    • @Molly-mg2bk
      @Molly-mg2bk 4 месяца назад +1

      The government is 'tentacled' from within and without.... it has no need for spines!!!!

  • @hb19110
    @hb19110 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for this.

  • @annesshaughnessy9005
    @annesshaughnessy9005 4 месяца назад +1

    Well done- keep up good work 🙏

  • @Galwayblazer
    @Galwayblazer 4 месяца назад +2

    I live in the north of Ireland, in the six counties , some people might say my description of where I live could constitute a hate crime as it doesn’t acknowledge the state of Northern Ireland and it’s loyal citizens but in all honesty there’s hardly a person living up here that wouldn’t fall foul of the Hate legislation as we are too comfortable with the sectarianism within our society . The thousands of Orange parades that take place annually with “ Blood and Thunder” bands robustly battering their bass drums as loud as they can playing tunes that harken back generations celebrating the battles the Protestants won over the Catholic population and the subsequent massacres that inevitably took place could easily be prosecuted under the Hate laws , if these parades celebrated the domination or defeat of Hindus, Jews or Muslims they would be stopped immediately and quite rightly too . The Catholic population of the north has been subjected to these intimidating, militaristic parades for many generations but because the participants are part of the establishment they are deemed acceptable, many political leaders and heads of industry actually take part . The sectarianism pervasive still within our society in the north is ignored while in the south you jail people for refusing to use the pronoun that certain individuals demand contrary to the accepted rules of grammar . Freedom of speech should always be protected , we can always agree to disagree , a problem arises though when speech is deliberately used to incite violence against an individual or individuals or to undermine their own fundamental rights within society including the right to be left alone .

  • @anthonykelly3175
    @anthonykelly3175 4 месяца назад +3

    Why would they want to restrict speech if they felt they were on the side of right

  • @aliceainscough1858
    @aliceainscough1858 4 месяца назад +3

    Will the people who openly critacise the hate speech law later be punished by that law.

  • @desfinnegan7086
    @desfinnegan7086 4 месяца назад +9

    Are we in China , Cos i feel we are ,I dont want imagrants

    • @peterbyrne3228
      @peterbyrne3228 4 месяца назад +2

      Bet most of them can spell better than you

    • @desfinnegan7086
      @desfinnegan7086 4 месяца назад

      @@peterbyrne3228 Immigrants ,you tosser

  • @rocko6783
    @rocko6783 4 месяца назад +6

    We the people do you remember who you are and who put you there
    We could have a lot of hate that you don't want words are spells

  • @shayhoulihan4391
    @shayhoulihan4391 3 месяца назад

    Shay checking in from dublin Ireland thank you ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ALavin-en1kr
    @ALavin-en1kr 4 месяца назад +1

    This man sure has the gift of the gab. He should definitely be allowed to speak freely, otherwise it would be a major loss.

  • @donalrees6523
    @donalrees6523 4 месяца назад +5

    Helen Mcentee aka Cromwell's love child

  • @MonaLisa-lu8zi
    @MonaLisa-lu8zi 4 месяца назад +7

    Comments are being removed.

  • @JoanOhare-ty9mm
    @JoanOhare-ty9mm 4 месяца назад

    Everyone has a Right to Free Speech under natural law

  • @edscannell1019
    @edscannell1019 4 месяца назад +3

    No government will EVER tell me what I can & can’t say! Next….

  • @davidking7298
    @davidking7298 4 месяца назад +1

    9:58 is my problem with the conversation about free speech. It doesn't seem to have allowances for hate crimes towards the majority. Surely, it should be a law to protect all, not just people who are considered minorities.

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 4 месяца назад +2

    On the definitional problem. It beggers belief that any legal system would even draft legislation without defining the meaning of the words used. Blacks dictionary is published specifically because it is essential the legal profession has a statement about what is the meaning of a word at the time it is used.

  • @johnosullivan1985
    @johnosullivan1985 4 месяца назад +1

    Very good keep it going

  • @Kipperbob
    @Kipperbob 3 месяца назад

    If this gets passed I think we all have a moral obligation to blatantly defy it. Literally say all the things we're told we're not allowed to say, even if we don't hold the opinions we have to state, say it anyway just to make the point. They can't jail us all.

  • @seamushopkins2591
    @seamushopkins2591 4 месяца назад +2

    All about control

  • @joewhelan5018
    @joewhelan5018 4 месяца назад +1

    We have never had it so good. So what's the problem

  • @vannesagannon4555
    @vannesagannon4555 4 месяца назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤fantastic

  • @catherineoconnell3213
    @catherineoconnell3213 4 месяца назад +2

    "gagging law"
    01/07/2024

  • @williamcannon7262
    @williamcannon7262 4 месяца назад

    Do not let them shut you up !!

  • @barbarafarrell4080
    @barbarafarrell4080 4 месяца назад +2

    Lobbied tds in relation to eu migration pact and it still was voted in

  • @BridRyan-fu4zx
    @BridRyan-fu4zx 4 месяца назад +2

    Go raibh míle maith agaibh! Labhair amach i gconaí! Is maith lion do gruaig a Rónáin!

  • @vannesagannon4555
    @vannesagannon4555 4 месяца назад

    ❤❤❤❤free speech for all ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤love to all

  • @lindadoherty9176
    @lindadoherty9176 4 месяца назад

    Just throw it out go back to rights of people

  • @basketballfan5763
    @basketballfan5763 4 месяца назад +5

    A pacifist....by physique 😂😂

  • @sasskin1
    @sasskin1 4 месяца назад +11

    14 comments ? i c 4

  • @franobyrne2032
    @franobyrne2032 4 месяца назад +3

    Ireland 'Ted'!!🙄😂

  • @BernieWhelan-l6r
    @BernieWhelan-l6r 4 месяца назад

    A general strike might make them sit up and listen, but then what to do with the civil service?

  • @lindsaytwort8655
    @lindsaytwort8655 4 месяца назад

    Watch Douglas is cancelled on ITV A media man on TV who has gone to a wedding, got tipsy and what he said has gone viral and poor man is cancelled for something he can’t even remember he is supposed to have said. It is very topical of the mad woke world we find ourselves! Hugh Bonnivale

  • @kevm7751
    @kevm7751 3 месяца назад

    Stop voting in the same parties over and over again.

  • @patman142
    @patman142 4 месяца назад

    be under no illusions, this will be prioritised and the Gardai will be given huge resources to police this

  • @Lala-kc2fw
    @Lala-kc2fw 4 месяца назад

    Return to the EEC

  • @brianmallon1810
    @brianmallon1810 4 месяца назад +2

    Useless palaver mostly. Only sensible thing I heard was ''Bin it!''

  • @tomgreene1843
    @tomgreene1843 2 месяца назад

    Does this forum run in any other Irish university ....UCD perhaps ?? BTW the Taoiseach has been seen at a good few agricultural shows ....I wonder why ?

  • @bidbadgray
    @bidbadgray 4 месяца назад

    Misinformation and disinformation regulation has to apply to all media organisations ect ect

  • @dermotgilmartin1818
    @dermotgilmartin1818 4 месяца назад

    😎 🙏

  • @kcribin5654
    @kcribin5654 4 месяца назад

    McEntee….mm, blonde suits it.

  • @fionapower7348
    @fionapower7348 4 месяца назад

    Pester power 💪😅

  • @JoanOhare-ty9mm
    @JoanOhare-ty9mm 4 месяца назад

    One needs to read the Holy Bible ..Word of God..ie.The 10 Commandments book of genius, New Testament and. Book of Revelation ..

  • @thankstrek5759
    @thankstrek5759 4 месяца назад +2

    Well I hate cauliflower, does that mean I will offend someone that loves cauliflower, am I in trouble,if I hurt someone's feelings about cauliflower

    • @basicconcepts1d
      @basicconcepts1d 4 месяца назад

      That hurts the grower and seller of vegetables. I hate Winter. Who have I offended?.

  • @PaulOconnor-hu5sg
    @PaulOconnor-hu5sg 4 месяца назад

    They have no right to stop the freedom of speech just remeber we are the irish people living here and we are entitled to say what we we think is right in our own country