When I got mine, I felt it was small for the price too but nowadays all are unless compared to very cheap ones. Later on, the more I compare it, the more I see the quality. If your hands are large, well it won't feel comfortable. Pelikans nibs "bounce a bit" and very wet, western nib sizes and either you love it or not. When I tried the other Pelikan M400,600,800 (so far) there are differences. The best way are Pen Showd to try them before buying or watch reviews, lengths,etc. Thank you for the video!
Hi Nick G, thanks so much for your comments. The M200 is definitely a quality pen and I did not pay full retail for it so I feel ok about the price. My hands aren't that large actually - I wear a glove size of Medium. The more I think about it, its not so much of the length thats uncomfortable (I can always post the pen) but maybe the slimness. As I get older, I find that I prefer pens that have a little more "girth". You are right that Pen Meets or shows are the best way to get to know what you like and dislike about pens however they aren't so common in Singapore.
It's beyond me how could people dislike this video. Being honest is not a sin. I have tried this pen here in Bangkok. I can feel the quality , but the price Pelikan asks here (Around 190 USD) refrains me getting one. At the price point, there are many other alternatives, seriously. I think Pelikan should get this model at a lower price point so that it's indeed affordable. Thank you for your honest feedback and the feelings.
@@yz249 The import tax for fountain pens are very high here and adding the shipping fees , I am sure the cost would be around the same I mentioned. Thank you.
@@yz249 Around 200 usd. As importing from Japan is an option for many , the custom clearance hassle and waiting time (sometimes might go up to 2 to 3 months) are difficulties. Another issue is, they reveal the duties at later stage, sometimes. Like you will get a notification of payment, then only you can get the package. It's better if one can afford to pay the retail and get it within a day or two. PS: This M200 nib itself is 70 usd here. Ha ha
@@thomashardy9994 thanks for your feedback. Appreciate it. You are right. It's better to score one within the EU as the price is quite good. I think retailers score a high mark up outside, hence the pricing is high. There is no doubt about the quality of Pelikans though. Excellent performers. 😊
Unfortunately I haven't as the size is about the same as the M200. I won't be surprised that the M400 nib is stiffer. It could be that modern gold nibs are made stiffer to cater for print writers and as people don't write cursive anymore. To be honest the M200 has become my ink testing platform and it is not in regular rotation writing wise. I also use it for drawing with permanent inks. I am targeting to get a M800 during the end of year sales and will post a video about it then.
@@WrexelsWorld I agree with you. The only difference is that the m400 comes with a gold nib. I have an m200 (Special Pastel Green Edition, M). It costed €128 for me here in Europe. You are absolutely spot on about the price, because in this price range I could easily afford to buy a Pilot Elite which comes with a gold nib. You are also right about the size. This pen is a "pocket" like pen. One could argue that it is kind of feminine, which was told about my pastel green. I don't care, because owning and writing with the pen makes me happy. Yeah, Your points are all valid. I guess it all comes down to personal preference how much value we can take out from a pen. I took a bet when I ordered it online, because there are no pen shows where I live. My only choice would be flying to London to attend one. Also, the nib units are swappable. The M400 gold nib is totally fit into the M200. It is great because buying a replacement gold nib is cheaper than getting an m400. Probably I am going to upgrade my m200 to an "M400" with a gold nib, although the waist band won't read the Souverän title. Thanks for your review.
I have been on the fence for this pen but I write small and my nib size preference is a Sailor fine or a TWSBI ECO with the Jowo extra fine nib. Is this a standard #5 size nib??? I may order the extra fine nib only to see how broad the ink line is. Thank You for a excellent review.
The Fine in my M200 with light pressure definitely produces a wider line compared to any Japanese Fine. I initially thought it was because the nib is much wetter in general but testing it on better paper yields the same results. Size wise it's roughly the same as a Jowo #5 but not exactly as Pelikan produces their own nibs. The EF on Pelikans is pretty popular for the reasons you described (as well as the BB and OBB).
Thank you for your thoughts! I have trouble finding pens slim enough to be nimble and comfortable for me. (Modern pens trend towards bigger and fatter, suggesting the manufacturers think these qualities are better and worth more money.) I also like to post my pens - it being easier to keep track of the cap. I know you don't like to cap pens so I understand your dislike for the pen's size. It's not for you. Your review is helpful for me - A Pelican may indeed be a pen for me. I'm just concerned that the EF won't be fine enough got my tastes.
Hmm. One of my daily use pens is actually a Preppy. Those are nice and nimble. Alternatively if you like to post your pens, you can go with the 3776. Nib feel is important, the Preppy is slightly smoother and the 3776 has more feedback.
way overpriced IMO...they are now available at around the 100 USD mark now, which is about the same as a Pilot Custom 74, if ordered from Japan. This pen to me should not be more than 75 USD......when compared to the competition....
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"This fine is not a real fine, it's like a Japanese medium". When did the Japanese nib width become international standard ?
Yeah, japanese mediums are not a real mediums, they are fine!
When I got mine, I felt it was small for the price too but nowadays all are unless compared to very cheap ones. Later on, the more I compare it, the more I see the quality. If your hands are large, well it won't feel comfortable. Pelikans nibs "bounce a bit" and very wet, western nib sizes and either you love it or not. When I tried the other Pelikan M400,600,800 (so far) there are differences. The best way are Pen Showd to try them before buying or watch reviews, lengths,etc. Thank you for the video!
Hi Nick G, thanks so much for your comments. The M200 is definitely a quality pen and I did not pay full retail for it so I feel ok about the price. My hands aren't that large actually - I wear a glove size of Medium. The more I think about it, its not so much of the length thats uncomfortable (I can always post the pen) but maybe the slimness. As I get older, I find that I prefer pens that have a little more "girth". You are right that Pen Meets or shows are the best way to get to know what you like and dislike about pens however they aren't so common in Singapore.
It's beyond me how could people dislike this video. Being honest is not a sin.
I have tried this pen here in Bangkok. I can feel the quality , but the price Pelikan asks here (Around 190 USD) refrains me getting one. At the price point, there are many other alternatives, seriously.
I think Pelikan should get this model at a lower price point so that it's indeed affordable.
Thank you for your honest feedback and the feelings.
they can be had for £65 on amazon in the uk.
@@yz249 The import tax for fountain pens are very high here and adding the shipping fees , I am sure the cost would be around the same I mentioned.
Thank you.
@@dashsunil yeah that's a shame, better options out there for 190 usd.
How much do pilot custom 74s cost where you are?
@@yz249 Around 200 usd. As importing from Japan is an option for many , the custom clearance hassle and waiting time (sometimes might go up to 2 to 3 months) are difficulties. Another issue is, they reveal the duties at later stage, sometimes. Like you will get a notification of payment, then only you can get the package. It's better if one can afford to pay the retail and get it within a day or two.
PS: This M200 nib itself is 70 usd here. Ha ha
@@thomashardy9994 thanks for your feedback. Appreciate it. You are right. It's better to score one within the EU as the price is quite good. I think retailers score a high mark up outside, hence the pricing is high. There is no doubt about the quality of Pelikans though. Excellent performers. 😊
150USD? try online. even in Germany, this pen starts at 115EUR in brick and mortar stores, but online you can get it starting at 75EUR
Now I want to kill myself after reading this, just bought one for 145$. Even worse, I'm actually going to Germany next Febuary
Have you tried the m400? I hear the m200 is much springier than the m400 even though the former is a gold nib.
Unfortunately I haven't as the size is about the same as the M200. I won't be surprised that the M400 nib is stiffer. It could be that modern gold nibs are made stiffer to cater for print writers and as people don't write cursive anymore.
To be honest the M200 has become my ink testing platform and it is not in regular rotation writing wise. I also use it for drawing with permanent inks.
I am targeting to get a M800 during the end of year sales and will post a video about it then.
@@WrexelsWorld I agree with you. The only difference is that the m400 comes with a gold nib. I have an m200 (Special Pastel Green Edition, M). It costed €128 for me here in Europe. You are absolutely spot on about the price, because in this price range I could easily afford to buy a Pilot Elite which comes with a gold nib.
You are also right about the size. This pen is a "pocket" like pen. One could argue that it is kind of feminine, which was told about my pastel green. I don't care, because owning and writing with the pen makes me happy.
Yeah, Your points are all valid. I guess it all comes down to personal preference how much value we can take out from a pen.
I took a bet when I ordered it online, because there are no pen shows where I live. My only choice would be flying to London to attend one.
Also, the nib units are swappable. The M400 gold nib is totally fit into the M200. It is great because buying a replacement gold nib is cheaper than getting an m400.
Probably I am going to upgrade my m200 to an "M400" with a gold nib, although the waist band won't read the Souverän title. Thanks for your review.
I have been on the fence for this pen but I write small and my nib size preference is a Sailor fine or a TWSBI ECO with the Jowo extra fine nib.
Is this a standard #5 size nib??? I may order the extra fine nib only to see how broad the ink line is.
Thank You for a excellent review.
The Fine in my M200 with light pressure definitely produces a wider line compared to any Japanese Fine. I initially thought it was because the nib is much wetter in general but testing it on better paper yields the same results. Size wise it's roughly the same as a Jowo #5 but not exactly as Pelikan produces their own nibs. The EF on Pelikans is pretty popular for the reasons you described (as well as the BB and OBB).
@@WrexelsWorld Thanks for the information.
Thank you for your thoughts! I have trouble finding pens slim enough to be nimble and comfortable for me. (Modern pens trend towards bigger and fatter, suggesting the manufacturers think these qualities are better and worth more money.) I also like to post my pens - it being easier to keep track of the cap. I know you don't like to cap pens so I understand your dislike for the pen's size. It's not for you. Your review is helpful for me - A Pelican may indeed be a pen for me. I'm just concerned that the EF won't be fine enough got my tastes.
Hmm. One of my daily use pens is actually a Preppy. Those are nice and nimble. Alternatively if you like to post your pens, you can go with the 3776. Nib feel is important, the Preppy is slightly smoother and the 3776 has more feedback.
Nice
way overpriced IMO...they are now available at around the 100 USD mark now, which is about the same as a Pilot Custom 74, if ordered from Japan. This pen to me should not be more than 75 USD......when compared to the competition....
Very overpriced. For plastic pens, stick with Lamy.