If this guy's opinions set someone off, they're just as deranged as TDS people. He's basically a run of the mill center-left as far as I can tell. I don't think you can hold it against people that they have TDS if someone saying they don't like Donald Trump actually offends you, is all I'm saying.
There is not one hateful bone in Batya's body! She is a delightful woman, honest, truthful and full of wisdom and knowledge about the trials and tribulations of the American people.
Mark Halperin was Tucker Carlson's guest yesterday. He seriously believes if Trump wins we will see a wave of mental illness nationwide. Batya, your nursing the poor man moves me to tears.
Hearing people who talk about rule of law without speaking out against the obvious lawfare and weaponization of the DOJ against Trump in the most fascist ways possible is just hypocritical to me. Take a look at what Leticia is doing in New York and the election interference of Jack Smith.
They truly believe it will move Trump voters to hate him when they call him a “convicted felon” as if the entire legal process wasn’t used to try to make it possible for them to call him that.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat They've tried everything they can to put him down including assassination, twice, nobody can survive that. If he was that bad why has his support stuck like glue despite all the demonizing? In fact part of the reason his support is growing is because he has overcome everything thrown at him, many voices in conservative media were beginning to clamour for Ron DeSanctis, because they wanted "normalcy" to return. The media has made people even smart people to hear AMERICA FIRST, and think it's the worst thing ever especially independents and leftists. Well TRUMP BAD led everyone to 3+ years of Biden and bidenomics, now many people have grown numb to him being demonized.
What is weaponization of the DOJ? Going after crimes? I'm sorry, when did the term "law and order" change for y'all that it now means letting crime happen. Law and order is enforcing the law. That's what the DOJ is doing. Enforcing the law is not weaponization.
Although TDS is totally legitimate I believe it is more like CDS (Conservative Derangement Syndrome). It happened under Bush and will happen after Trump with DeSantis or Vance or whomever picks up the mantle. TDS is just an acute case of CDS
@@passivezealot5631 When they can weaponize it against their opponents. Otherwise, as Kamala Harris has done, they raise money to bail violent criminals out of jail and seek to defund the police.
@@passivezealot5631 Ikr. Their administration not only actively defies our laws, (ex: DEI = unconstitutional, censoring citizens' free speech on social media, etc.). But they fail to enforce our laws (open borders, Soros DAs not prosecuting certain crimes, etc.) They violate the social contract by not honoring laws voted in by our representatives whom we elected. Thus, governing WITHOUT the consent of the governed.
it so is... I see this constantly... "why doesnt he ever condemn and disavow the KKK and racists" (show said person a montage of Trump doing exactly that 35 times) answer: "yea sure. he's saying that but thats not what he actually MEANS!!!" (and of course if he DOESNT condemn or disavow out loud it is... "see... he didnt disavow!!!" TDS is a HELL of a drug.. a hell of a drug
How is it possible that I know more about the details of these issues than Joe? If I only knew the few details that he articulates, I might agree with him.
This seems to be very common. I have a couple of close friends who are of the dem persuasion. Very smart people, just not very political. Their knowledge of Trump and controversies around him is made up almost entirely of MSNBC type media. It's actually sad what it has done to them.
@@slider292 Fool. Trump called for 10K national guard, because of the protesters who were going to collect in DC without their guns to demand recounts and audits. Nancy, Milley, and the DC mayor nixed it. Some of the worst instigators are still anonymous or were untouched by the DOJ until public outcry by Trump supporters. Chicago cops found the Osundairo brothers in about five minutes, tracing them back to their homes. Both the FBI and Kamala Harris are protecting the planter of the pipe bomb that "almost killed her." Is instigating war in Ukraine an interest in peace? Bolton, Kristol, Cheneyx2, Bush, Clinton are not interested in peaceful transfers of power. They seek the opposite, so they back Harris.
@@slider292Says the side that claims he was an illegitimate President that stole the election & would never leave the office... Despite leaving office.
If you can't make it through 4 minutes of a run of the mill center-left person talking, you have a Derangement Syndrome of your own. Try to get out of your bubble.
@@matthewbentley7033 The real TDS is suffered by the people who will never stop voting for or ever criticise Trump no matter what he says or does. If any Democrat said or did just one of the thousands of mad, ignorant, lunatic, conspiratorial things Trump has said and done since 2016, they would be demanding that person’s immediate removal from office. But Trump could literally turn up to every debate butt naked and his fanboys would still vote for him. It’s a cult.
Trump isn't divisive. The media's reaction to him made him divisive. Imagine how great this country would be if they just gave him 50% positive coverage instead of 95% negative. 90% of the things people with TDS hate about Trump are actually things he's responding to liberals or the media have done to him. I don't know why this is hard to see. That man has taken every bullet for us from them and he just keeps moving forward. That's what I want in a leader!!
He says that Trump is selfish and doesn't care about what's good for the country, only about himself. That's exactly what people voting for Kamala are doing. You're putting your emotions before your country's benefit. You're voting for Kamala just because you don't like Trump, not because Kamala is good. So you're worse than Trump. According to you, he cares about the benefits he's getting from becoming president, which is why he fights to become president, but you're putting your country at huge risk just because you don't like him. Now, who's worse, you or Trump?
I think if Trump would try to be more unifying, it would certainly help. Still, there's a group of people out there that will always hate him. If he cured cancer, they'd say he destroyed the world because too many people are alive now. Everyone needs a boogeyman for their problems and grievances and he plays the role perfectly for them. He hasn't been President for 4 years and some people can't go a day without mentioning him.
The problem is the media and the Democrats. People that were friends with Trump for decades, started calling him fascist and a Nazi and racist the minute he said he was running for president as a Republican. There was never any chance they were going to give him an opportunity to be reasonable. They have gone after him with lie after lie after lie. The CIA the FBI, the deep state the media I mean Hillary Clinton and the DNC were literally found guilty by the federal election commission for lying and spending money to create lies to the media about Trump. The man is actually incredibly moderate. He is a 1990s Democrat. He is not analog. he is the most centrist Republican to probably ever run for president because he’s actually not a Republican. He’s not really a conservative. It would’ve been the best chance ever for both sides to work together and compromise and do watch right for America. But that’s never gonna happen because the left hates America. The left hates the constitution. They say it all the time. Look at how they think literally even the Supreme Court justices on the left and the Democrats and the world, economic forum, and the world health organization, John Kerry they all literally say the constitution is a problem. The first amendment is a problem. These people hate the constitution. They hate America. They hate freedom. They hate democracy. We haven’t actually had democracy or capitalism in America since the early 1900s. America is by definition a textbook fascist country and has been for decades. Thanks to the left. Thanks to the media. Thanks to the Democrats and let’s be honest with a lot of help from the establishment wing, which is about 20% of the Republican party. But those people are not conservatives. They were Democrats until Vietnam and then they moved to the Republican Party. But they were never on the right. They were never conservative or libertarian. They were always big government liberals. But they were pro life and pro war.now they’re moving back to the left where they belong but not fast enough. Trump has been attacked since day one. Mary Catherine Hamm explained on the Bill Marshall, how the left and the Democrats and the media destroyed all of the norms to try and destroy Trump because in their opinion he’s gonna destroy democracy so they’re gonna destroy democracy first to save democracy. Other words is exactly what Abraham Lincoln did because the Civil War was not a Civil War. It was the second American revolution was completely unconstitutional because the states left through a legislative process legally part of the constitution the same way they joined, and it was not about slavery. It was about Lincoln being a tyrant, and forcing the south back into the union. We know this for a fact, because Lincoln said on several occasions and you can read it by googling Abraham Lincoln‘s letter to Horace Greeley. he shit on the constitution to save democracy or America or whatever version he thought because he was a tyrant and authoritarian. The left they are authoritarians. They are fascists. They use identity politics and Marxist tactics to brainwash people. But all they care about is power. Again, they hate the constitution they hate democracy. They hate freedom. They are nothing but authoritarian that crave power. Therefore they will do anything because the ends justify the means.
The real TDS is suffered by the people who will never stop voting for or ever criticise Trump no matter what he says or does. If any Democrat said or did just one of the thousands of mad, ignorant, lunatic, conspiratorial things Trump has said and done since 2016, they would be demanding that person’s immediate removal from office. But Trump could literally turn up to every debate butt naked and his fanboys would still vote for him. It’s a cult.
I really hope this guy writes better than he talks. Every single “argument” of his was a showcase of TDS. It basically was: downplay anything positive while attributing the worst possible motives.
The real TDS is suffered by the people who will never stop voting for or ever criticise Trump no matter what he says or does. If any Democrat said or did just one of the thousands of mad, ignorant, lunatic, conspiratorial things Trump has said and done since 2016, they would be demanding that person’s immediate removal from office. But Trump could literally turn up to every debate butt naked and his fanboys would still vote for him. It’s a cult.
As a former sufferer of TDS, I can attest it can be cured. For me the cure was Biden/Harris. I know it’s no way near that easy for a lot of TDS afflicted folks though.
Batya, I’ve loved you since I first saw you on Leland Vitrer’s show. I love that you are everywhere now. You are so smart with a wicked sense of humor.
I really enjoyed this discussion. It's amazing how much better I hear, how much more I understand, when everyone is courteous and discusses actual issues. More of this, please! ❤
he has the worst case of TDS I've ever seen. He won't even listen to Batya or facts and just keeps spewing straight up Dem propaganda talking points that aren't even true. Batya should get a medal from being so calm and collected despite all the emotional ranting from Joe. I like hearing from other perspectives especially that I don't agree with but his ranting and emotional reaction did nothing to move the conversation forward or help me understand the TDS perspective better.
With all due respect, JOE doesn’t JUST have a major [severe] case of TDS level 1000 BUT truly believe he’s IRREPARABLY done… It’s very very sad 😑 Thank goodness for the 100 + million people who absolutely will vote for TRUMP on Nov 5 so they can FINALLY realize THEY were indefinitely wrong- Seriously??? 🙄🙄🙄
It’s nice to have a discussion where views are exchanged and challenged in a civil manner. I give both of you credit for presenting your opinions and being able to still hug it out in the end. Thank you TFP
Ha! This was great. Batya is fabulous. 💜 There's no need to "hate" anyone. Joe, drop the "hate". Poor Joe. 90% of his allegations against Trump are tantamount to emotive bullpucky.
Trump's wife and mother are immigrants. His dad was second generation. He doesn't have a problem with immigration, just ILLEGAL immigration smh. Batya was right when she said that some people like to use the topic of immigration to virtue signal.
The problem with the current round of trump hysteria is that we've already HAD Trump. The world did not burn down (whereas now...). And while the Jan 6 riot was appalling, it was still a minnow compared to the George Floyd riots that the Democrats were perfectly content to ignore.
“A summer of love”…… I was an essential worker throughout the entirety of Covid. Worked in downtown Seattle during the height of the pandemic. Saw everything firsthand, nothing peaceful about it. Politicians had to deal with one day of having their perfect lives disrupted while the rest of us had to put up with it for half a year. They get no sympathy from me.
Yeah, it's that double-standard I don't get. Like I do think it's disgraceful how Trump so boldly rejected the election result, and so weakly discouraged the Capitol attackers. But then Hillary and high-profile Democrats also spent years claiming that _"Russia hacked the election."_ Trump was a Kremlin asset, and _"Riots are the voice of the unheard."_ whilst people were burning down civic buildings and shops.
You'd think that four years of more-or-less business as usual under Adolf J. Trump (so to speak) would have inoculated them against this pathogen. Apparently not: Covid viruses globally are seething with envy :)
She was way too nice to that jerk. She had so many opportunities to push back on his histrionic delusions yet let everything go as if he was telling the truth.
With these TDS people, You have to have a certain amount of envy, that their live’s are completely FREE of any problems, they’ve essentially runout of problems, and can focus every waking moment toward hating Trump… While most people are worried about whether they’ll be able to make their rent, car payment, or even have a job next month, these TDS people aren’t the least bit concerned with any of those issues!! I’m envious!!!
It is interesting how the left loves to preach love and tolerance, yet are fast to marginalize and excommunicate those they disagree with. This happened long before Trump. I’m a centrist and find plenty to disagree with both parties, but I argue the issues and don’t attach entire groups for their position
I don’t agree with everything Trump does or says , I also don’t agree with all of his policies but as a lifelong dem I can not stand behind what my party has become. They have become delusional as you see with this older gentleman. Turning the doj into a political weapon was the last straw for me. I’m not going to rock the Trump flag or the hat but he has my vote in November. Someone has to put a stop to this madness ….i never thought I say this but Trump2024 please fix our country😢
You're not the only one. Everything you said is pretty much how I feel as well. I was a Dem until 2010 when Obama already started a few more wars (which is why I voted for him, saying he would end the wars only to do the opposite 🤦🏽♂️). In 2016 I said I'd never hire for Trump (I wrote in Ron Paul). After seeing how absurd, hypocritical, and deranged the Democrat party was acting with Trump as president that continued pushing me further and further away from the left. I wrote in Tulsi Gabbard in 2020. Then with the DOJ corruptly going after Trump throughout Biden's presidency I couldn't believe I was ever a Democrat. After Tulsi & RFK Jr joined Trump it became very clear who I was voting for in 2024. Yes, Trump embellishes the truth constantly but when it comes to flat out lies, twisting of words, propaganda, authoritarianism, etc the MSM, MIC, and Democrat Party make Trump look like a saint! I'm not afraid to admit I used to be a Democrat, I'm just ashamed to admit I was a Democrat!
Democrat activist judges kept Trump from doing things. You can't THEN later say that Trump wasn't able to do those things, if you also believe that federal judges have this kind of power. You have to pick a side, my friend.
Trump started doing DNA testing on kids and so-called parents to seperate kids from human traffickers. Biden ended that. I think the DNA testing was a great idea and could help families be reunited. It may be impossible for those not DNA tested.
It has even spread into Canada despite our strict border protocols. I have had both a neighbour and a relative cut of communications with me while discussing US politics. In both instances they refused to even consider that Donald Trump was misquoted on numerous occasions. When I asked them why they hate a person they have never met so passionately, they both quoted statements allegedly said by Donald Trump. I began by telling them I am not a fan of Donald Trump and have never really cared for him on a personal level, then tried to explain to them that even left-leaning media sources had debunked those statements, they literally cut off communications and walked away from years and a lifetime of relations.
They have a hate boner for this man. I get it they hate this man with a passion. No one cares. I still don't like Michael Jackson, but I do not post a video a day saying how much he is the spawn of Satan or how he destroyed music. I just don't like his music, if you like it, cool. But to hate this man so much that your reasoning skills have gone out the window.
Joe should say the things Trump actually has done, but he keeps saying about things he said. Joe just seems to be a defender of the Liberal without even realizing it.
Donald Trump is referred to as 'Mr. President'. The same is true of Barack Obama. The difference is that at this moment Barack Obama may be the de facto current President (as it doesn't appear that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris are capable of performing that role.)
This is fascinating. I wonder what it's like to be so confused. That moment when he was condescending to his coworker about union membership numbers under Trump, acting convinced that union membership numbers didn't go up, when any looking into the question at all would have shown him he was dead wrong, and it was absolutely clear he had no idea at all about it and was just making it up entirely... astounding. That a grown professional in the thinker class could be that blind to his own badly dysfunctional thinking is really wild. Twenty minutes of mind reading by a guy that I guarantee can't read minds...
I won't weep if Trump is reelected because I know exactly what that means - higher tax cuts for the very rich, no more social liberalism but Trump won't turn back anything either, more money/weapons to Israel, etc. None of these will really impact me much. The "swamp" won't be drained since his administration will be staffed by literal GOP operatives. And in 4 years you'll have another election.
With all due respect, JOE doesn’t JUST have a major [severe] case of TDS level 1000 BUT truly believe he’s IRREPARABLY done… It’s very very sad 😑 Thank goodness for the 100 + million people who absolutely will vote for TRUMP on Nov 5 so they can FINALLY realize THEY were indefinitely wrong- Seriously??? 🙄🙄🙄 OTHERWISE, he slightly redeemed himself at the end- BRAVO Batya & Joe to an extent 💙🤍❤️🦅 TRUMP 2024 ⏰⏰⏰
I think it's great The Free Press is airing a conversation like this.
The sad thing is it took me like a minute and half before I stopped basking myself if this is a "bit" or not.
If this guy's opinions set someone off, they're just as deranged as TDS people. He's basically a run of the mill center-left as far as I can tell.
I don't think you can hold it against people that they have TDS if someone saying they don't like Donald Trump actually offends you, is all I'm saying.
@@henrygeorge377im a minute in and you are saying this isn’t a skit?
It’s hard to tell for me. I think it may be a skit. This TDS guy HAS to be making fun of real lefties.
There is not one hateful bone in Batya's body! She is a delightful woman, honest, truthful and full of wisdom and knowledge about the trials and tribulations of the American people.
Mark Halperin was Tucker Carlson's guest yesterday. He seriously believes if Trump wins we will see a wave of mental illness nationwide. Batya, your nursing the poor man moves me to tears.
ha! Good one.
I watched the same interview. No one can help this guy. Stress is a killer and this guy may not survive four years. T D S is a real thing.
The mental illness is self inflicted. Because libs have nothing REAL going for them except to demonstrate how weak and perverted one can be 😂😂😂
Hearing people who talk about rule of law without speaking out against the obvious lawfare and weaponization of the DOJ against Trump in the most fascist ways possible is just hypocritical to me. Take a look at what Leticia is doing in New York and the election interference of Jack Smith.
They truly believe it will move Trump voters to hate him when they call him a “convicted felon” as if the entire legal process wasn’t used to try to make it possible for them to call him that.
"the most fascist ways possible" is quite the claim, Wil. I'm not sure you really thought that through.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat They've tried everything they can to put him down including assassination, twice, nobody can survive that. If he was that bad why has his support stuck like glue despite all the demonizing? In fact part of the reason his support is growing is because he has overcome everything thrown at him, many voices in conservative media were beginning to clamour for Ron DeSanctis, because they wanted "normalcy" to return. The media has made people even smart people to hear AMERICA FIRST, and think it's the worst thing ever especially independents and leftists. Well TRUMP BAD led everyone to 3+ years of Biden and bidenomics, now many people have grown numb to him being demonized.
What is weaponization of the DOJ? Going after crimes? I'm sorry, when did the term "law and order" change for y'all that it now means letting crime happen. Law and order is enforcing the law. That's what the DOJ is doing. Enforcing the law is not weaponization.
Imagine thinking the guy who openly pressured his multiple AGs to go after his enemies was the guy who wasn't weaponizing the DOJ
Please seek medical treatment without delay !!
Get over it, nato results speak for itself.
He’s the only one not ahead of anyone else.
He’s the only one not ahead of anyone else.
It's far worse than COVID!!! 😆
Although TDS is totally legitimate I believe it is more like CDS (Conservative Derangement Syndrome). It happened under Bush and will happen after Trump with DeSantis or Vance or whomever picks up the mantle. TDS is just an acute case of CDS
Half his points against trump would apply to his own camp
Yup! What Dem care about the rule of law?
Yes.
Way more than half.
@@passivezealot5631 When they can weaponize it against their opponents. Otherwise, as Kamala Harris has done, they raise money to bail violent criminals out of jail and seek to defund the police.
@@passivezealot5631 Ikr. Their administration not only actively defies our laws, (ex: DEI = unconstitutional, censoring citizens' free speech on social media, etc.). But they fail to enforce our laws (open borders, Soros DAs not prosecuting certain crimes, etc.) They violate the social contract by not honoring laws voted in by our representatives whom we elected. Thus, governing WITHOUT the consent of the governed.
One of the side effects of TDS is mind-reading apparently
I saw the same thing. It's incredible how many leftists believe they know exactly how everyone thinks and feels.
it so is... I see this constantly... "why doesnt he ever condemn and disavow the KKK and racists" (show said person a montage of Trump doing exactly that 35 times) answer: "yea sure. he's saying that but thats not what he actually MEANS!!!" (and of course if he DOESNT condemn or disavow out loud it is... "see... he didnt disavow!!!" TDS is a HELL of a drug.. a hell of a drug
NATO members have been barely paying for their own defense, this guy is deranged
i am a european….and I confirm this message
Why don’t US just empty the bases world wide?
which defense are you talking about? Blowing an essential infrastructure like the northern stream can't be labelled as "defense"
@nicolagianaroli2024 defense spending whole nato nations agreed to meet and than didnt bother for many years
Yes, of all the times to apply the political rhyme mantra "pay their fair share," they don't apply it here?
Oh he’s got it bad
This was a great listen. I am so impressed with Batya. She is calm, personable, well spoken and informed and open minded.
1 brother, 1 sister has TDS like the angry Nocera. I am voting for Trump.
How is it possible that I know more about the details of these issues than Joe? If I only knew the few details that he articulates, I might agree with him.
This seems to be very common. I have a couple of close friends who are of the dem persuasion. Very smart people, just not very political. Their knowledge of Trump and controversies around him is made up almost entirely of MSNBC type media. It's actually sad what it has done to them.
I'd like to know that as well. It's like they've never heard of the internet.
You mad, bro?
What's funny is that you think the politicians you like aren't narcissists.😅
Exactly!! Kamala Harris…huge narcissist, liar, far left socialist/marxist. She is the one who’s a danger.
This old man is quite lost and theres so many of them out there
I can personally say it can be cured. I suffered from Stage 4 for many years, was consumed by it. No longer.
Whats stage 4? What number stage is when the patient goes completely insane they go murder someone? Btw this actually happened.
Apparently TDS is terminal.
The only cure may be a complete transfusion of the social media and people from whom they get thier information.
My daughter’s cure started with the Kavanaugh hearings.
Made it through the first 4 minutes. Couldn’t take it anymore. These TDS people are batshit crazy.
Right, the ones who laud peaceful transfers of power, and candidates that support it, are the crazy ones.
@@slider292none auditable elections, and counting votes for days =!democracy? thank god I live in europe
@@slider292 Fool. Trump called for 10K national guard, because of the protesters who were going to collect in DC without their guns to demand recounts and audits. Nancy, Milley, and the DC mayor nixed it. Some of the worst instigators are still anonymous or were untouched by the DOJ until public outcry by Trump supporters. Chicago cops found the Osundairo brothers in about five minutes, tracing them back to their homes. Both the FBI and Kamala Harris are protecting the planter of the pipe bomb that "almost killed her." Is instigating war in Ukraine an interest in peace? Bolton, Kristol, Cheneyx2, Bush, Clinton are not interested in peaceful transfers of power. They seek the opposite, so they back Harris.
@@slider292Says the side that claims he was an illegitimate President that stole the election & would never leave the office... Despite leaving office.
If you can't make it through 4 minutes of a run of the mill center-left person talking, you have a Derangement Syndrome of your own. Try to get out of your bubble.
Her argument is about facts and his about how he feels about how he THINKs trump feels
Brilliant, I was a Democrat who didn’t like Trump in 2016 & 2020.
Now I’m an Independent and I’m voting Trump 2024
Well you’re about as ignorant, irresponsible and unpatriotic as it gets then.
Same here. I had TDS - bad. Then they started to say that men are women. Opps! I recovered.
@@matthewbentley7033 The real TDS is suffered by the people who will never stop voting for or ever criticise Trump no matter what he says or does. If any Democrat said or did just one of the thousands of mad, ignorant, lunatic, conspiratorial things Trump has said and done since 2016, they would be demanding that person’s immediate removal from office. But Trump could literally turn up to every debate butt naked and his fanboys would still vote for him. It’s a cult.
@@rosemaryalles6043same here. Finding out about Biden's corruption pushed me over the edge
Im so glad this man is able to read DJTs mind like this. I wish we all had this ability.
Denial is the first stage ...
...for supporting Trump.
Wow, that guy's insufferable. Batya's the best though
Batya, call him on his BS
Trump supporters will talk to anybody
Point being what, exactly?
@@slider292 he said you have both sides not talking to the other. It’s not both
No they won’t 😂.
@@jacobdeem8499 Lol...Bari isn't a Trump supporter, and "talking to everybody" is basically the premise of the Free Press, you dolt.
@@slider292 lol that’s not what he said.
Trump isn't divisive. The media's reaction to him made him divisive. Imagine how great this country would be if they just gave him 50% positive coverage instead of 95% negative. 90% of the things people with TDS hate about Trump are actually things he's responding to liberals or the media have done to him. I don't know why this is hard to see. That man has taken every bullet for us from them and he just keeps moving forward. That's what I want in a leader!!
Tell all the people whose family rejects FEMA assistance, risking their lives how uniting Trump's lies are.
@@galileogalilei9297 you're so stupid, it's painful.
He says that Trump is selfish and doesn't care about what's good for the country, only about himself. That's exactly what people voting for Kamala are doing. You're putting your emotions before your country's benefit. You're voting for Kamala just because you don't like Trump, not because Kamala is good. So you're worse than Trump. According to you, he cares about the benefits he's getting from becoming president, which is why he fights to become president, but you're putting your country at huge risk just because you don't like him. Now, who's worse, you or Trump?
This poor guy is delusional.
It’s amazing how calm Batya comes across vs the person who hates Trump.
I love you, Free Press. Free discourse. So refreshing.
Yeah, that's why they take down comments.
I think if Trump would try to be more unifying, it would certainly help. Still, there's a group of people out there that will always hate him. If he cured cancer, they'd say he destroyed the world because too many people are alive now. Everyone needs a boogeyman for their problems and grievances and he plays the role perfectly for them. He hasn't been President for 4 years and some people can't go a day without mentioning him.
The problem is the media and the Democrats. People that were friends with Trump for decades, started calling him fascist and a Nazi and racist the minute he said he was running for president as a Republican. There was never any chance they were going to give him an opportunity to be reasonable. They have gone after him with lie after lie after lie. The CIA the FBI, the deep state the media I mean Hillary Clinton and the DNC were literally found guilty by the federal election commission for lying and spending money to create lies to the media about Trump. The man is actually incredibly moderate. He is a 1990s Democrat. He is not analog. he is the most centrist Republican to probably ever run for president because he’s actually not a Republican. He’s not really a conservative. It would’ve been the best chance ever for both sides to work together and compromise and do watch right for America. But that’s never gonna happen because the left hates America. The left hates the constitution. They say it all the time. Look at how they think literally even the Supreme Court justices on the left and the Democrats and the world, economic forum, and the world health organization, John Kerry they all literally say the constitution is a problem. The first amendment is a problem. These people hate the constitution. They hate America. They hate freedom. They hate democracy. We haven’t actually had democracy or capitalism in America since the early 1900s. America is by definition a textbook fascist country and has been for decades. Thanks to the left. Thanks to the media. Thanks to the Democrats and let’s be honest with a lot of help from the establishment wing, which is about 20% of the Republican party. But those people are not conservatives. They were Democrats until Vietnam and then they moved to the Republican Party. But they were never on the right. They were never conservative or libertarian. They were always big government liberals. But they were pro life and pro war.now they’re moving back to the left where they belong but not fast enough. Trump has been attacked since day one. Mary Catherine Hamm explained on the Bill Marshall, how the left and the Democrats and the media destroyed all of the norms to try and destroy Trump because in their opinion he’s gonna destroy democracy so they’re gonna destroy democracy first to save democracy. Other words is exactly what Abraham Lincoln did because the Civil War was not a Civil War. It was the second American revolution was completely unconstitutional because the states left through a legislative process legally part of the constitution the same way they joined, and it was not about slavery. It was about Lincoln being a tyrant, and forcing the south back into the union. We know this for a fact, because Lincoln said on several occasions and you can read it by googling Abraham Lincoln‘s letter to Horace Greeley. he shit on the constitution to save democracy or America or whatever version he thought because he was a tyrant and authoritarian. The left they are authoritarians. They are fascists. They use identity politics and Marxist tactics to brainwash people. But all they care about is power. Again, they hate the constitution they hate democracy. They hate freedom. They are nothing but authoritarian that crave power. Therefore they will do anything because the ends justify the means.
He told people to drink bleach to cure COVID...y'all are on another planet
Yup, those are the typical TDS talking points that have no basis in fact.
Does he think Biden respects the rule of law?
Just started this video. I hope it’s hilarious.
Update: Baldy has an incurable case of TDS and probably suffers from narcissism.
The real TDS is suffered by the people who will never stop voting for or ever criticise Trump no matter what he says or does. If any Democrat said or did just one of the thousands of mad, ignorant, lunatic, conspiratorial things Trump has said and done since 2016, they would be demanding that person’s immediate removal from office. But Trump could literally turn up to every debate butt naked and his fanboys would still vote for him. It’s a cult.
I really hope this guy writes better than he talks.
Every single “argument” of his was a showcase of TDS.
It basically was: downplay anything positive while attributing the worst possible motives.
The real TDS is suffered by the people who will never stop voting for or ever criticise Trump no matter what he says or does. If any Democrat said or did just one of the thousands of mad, ignorant, lunatic, conspiratorial things Trump has said and done since 2016, they would be demanding that person’s immediate removal from office. But Trump could literally turn up to every debate butt naked and his fanboys would still vote for him. It’s a cult.
DSM 6 is coming out soon. Hope the psychiatrists have added TDS to the list of diagnosis conditions.
Most psychiatrists are socialist/progressive, so that's not likely.
The voice tells us all we need to know.
As a former sufferer of TDS, I can attest it can be cured. For me the cure was Biden/Harris. I know it’s no way near that easy for a lot of TDS afflicted folks though.
Batya, I’ve loved you since I first saw you on Leland Vitrer’s show. I love that you are everywhere now. You are so smart with a wicked sense of humor.
I really enjoyed this discussion. It's amazing how much better I hear, how much more I understand, when everyone is courteous and discusses actual issues. More of this, please! ❤
Cesar Chavez was against illegal immigration
As an independent I had mild TDS in 2020 and decided not to vote. Watching Kamala campaigning the last 3 months has cured me
Omg dude the rule of law!? He needs a rubber room
The rule of law means nothing. The greatest leaders didn't care for it. Trump shouldn't either. Give him full powers.
he has the worst case of TDS I've ever seen. He won't even listen to Batya or facts and just keeps spewing straight up Dem propaganda talking points that aren't even true. Batya should get a medal from being so calm and collected despite all the emotional ranting from Joe. I like hearing from other perspectives especially that I don't agree with but his ranting and emotional reaction did nothing to move the conversation forward or help me understand the TDS perspective better.
Right, these people are bizarre. Everything they say is a talking point I have heard a million times on MSNBC.
Glad he's at the free press and willing to talk. The deprogramming is working.
Can this guy tell this story to those who lost their loved ones to immigrant crime
Jordan Peterson and Dr Phill have clearly said, Trump is not a narcissist, he's a show man and a really good businessman and executive.
With all due respect, JOE doesn’t JUST have a major [severe] case of TDS level 1000 BUT truly believe he’s IRREPARABLY done… It’s very very sad 😑
Thank goodness for the 100 + million people who absolutely will vote for TRUMP on Nov 5 so they can FINALLY realize THEY were indefinitely wrong-
Seriously??? 🙄🙄🙄
Its hard to watch this poor Joe guy being gaslit so extremely hard about trump
Batya, you brought the receipts. The "union membership went up" moment was hilarious. "IT DID??"
It’s nice to have a discussion where views are exchanged and challenged in a civil manner. I give both of you credit for presenting your opinions and being able to still hug it out in the end. Thank you TFP
How can someone so emotionally broken write on serious issues?
I loved this so much! Thank you! Long live The FP!
Ha! This was great. Batya is fabulous. 💜
There's no need to "hate" anyone. Joe, drop the "hate".
Poor Joe. 90% of his allegations against Trump are tantamount to emotive bullpucky.
Trump's wife and mother are immigrants. His dad was second generation. He doesn't have a problem with immigration, just ILLEGAL immigration smh. Batya was right when she said that some people like to use the topic of immigration to virtue signal.
Purple…….
I dig it.❤💙
The problem with the current round of trump hysteria is that we've already HAD Trump. The world did not burn down (whereas now...). And while the Jan 6 riot was appalling, it was still a minnow compared to the George Floyd riots that the Democrats were perfectly content to ignore.
“A summer of love”……
I was an essential worker throughout the entirety of Covid. Worked in downtown Seattle during the height of the pandemic. Saw everything firsthand, nothing peaceful about it.
Politicians had to deal with one day of having their perfect lives disrupted while the rest of us had to put up with it for half a year. They get no sympathy from me.
Yeah, it's that double-standard I don't get. Like I do think it's disgraceful how Trump so boldly rejected the election result, and so weakly discouraged the Capitol attackers. But then Hillary and high-profile Democrats also spent years claiming that _"Russia hacked the election."_ Trump was a Kremlin asset, and _"Riots are the voice of the unheard."_ whilst people were burning down civic buildings and shops.
You'd think that four years of more-or-less business as usual under Adolf J. Trump (so to speak) would have inoculated them against this pathogen. Apparently not: Covid viruses globally are seething with envy :)
Remember "fiery but mostly peaceful".. 🤣🤣
That went about the way I expected.
Won't do any harm to Trump, but hating someone you never met is bad for the soul.
Good luck to Joe.
She was way too nice to that jerk. She had so many opportunities to push back on his histrionic delusions yet let everything go as if he was telling the truth.
All ex-Presidents are referred to as President. It has nothing to do with narcissism.
Yep. But the media tends to call him “Donald Trump” while calling Obama “President Obama”.
@@jacquieloller8504 they conveniently forget to use it with Trump.
@@julessantana643 exactly
I love seeing these two converse!
Has he actually listened to Trump in length? Or is it what he reads and see's on TV.
With these TDS people, You have to have a certain amount of envy, that their live’s are completely FREE of any problems, they’ve essentially runout of problems, and can focus every waking moment toward hating Trump…
While most people are worried about whether they’ll be able to make their rent, car payment, or even have a job next month,
these TDS people aren’t the least bit concerned with any of those issues!!
I’m envious!!!
Gotta love Batya.♥
You really don't, actually.
@@slider292do you keep a box of Kleenex in your pocket?
You should, considering the tears constantly flowing down your face.
She needs to do part two but with video clips
Bryan Cranston has stage 4 TDS
TDS is like being a vampire and facts are like garlic.
It is interesting how the left loves to preach love and tolerance, yet are fast to marginalize and excommunicate those they disagree with. This happened long before Trump. I’m a centrist and find plenty to disagree with both parties, but I argue the issues and don’t attach entire groups for their position
Loved this conversation ❤
I don’t agree with everything Trump does or says , I also don’t agree with all of his policies but as a lifelong dem I can not stand behind what my party has become. They have become delusional as you see with this older gentleman. Turning the doj into a political weapon was the last straw for me. I’m not going to rock the Trump flag or the hat but he has my vote in November. Someone has to put a stop to this madness ….i never thought I say this but Trump2024 please fix our country😢
You're not the only one. Everything you said is pretty much how I feel as well. I was a Dem until 2010 when Obama already started a few more wars (which is why I voted for him, saying he would end the wars only to do the opposite 🤦🏽♂️). In 2016 I said I'd never hire for Trump (I wrote in Ron Paul). After seeing how absurd, hypocritical, and deranged the Democrat party was acting with Trump as president that continued pushing me further and further away from the left. I wrote in Tulsi Gabbard in 2020. Then with the DOJ corruptly going after Trump throughout Biden's presidency I couldn't believe I was ever a Democrat. After Tulsi & RFK Jr joined Trump it became very clear who I was voting for in 2024. Yes, Trump embellishes the truth constantly but when it comes to flat out lies, twisting of words, propaganda, authoritarianism, etc the MSM, MIC, and Democrat Party make Trump look like a saint!
I'm not afraid to admit I used to be a Democrat, I'm just ashamed to admit I was a Democrat!
Great Video LOL! Time to be unburdened by TDS...
There needs to be a voluntary free TDS Recovery Course fir those who want help.
Newton's third law states that for every action (force) in nature there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Democrat activist judges kept Trump from doing things. You can't THEN later say that Trump wasn't able to do those things, if you also believe that federal judges have this kind of power. You have to pick a side, my friend.
In short its probably incurable.
Trump started doing DNA testing on kids and so-called parents to seperate kids from human traffickers. Biden ended that. I think the DNA testing was a great idea and could help families be reunited. It may be impossible for those not DNA tested.
Its very aggressive how he responded after SOMEONE TRIED TO KILL HIM
Leaving breaking points for Batya at the TFP
Al Gore gracefully stepped aside🤔🤨……🤣🤣🤣
It has even spread into Canada despite our strict border protocols. I have had both a neighbour and a relative cut of communications with me while discussing US politics. In both instances they refused to even consider that Donald Trump was misquoted on numerous occasions. When I asked them why they hate a person they have never met so passionately, they both quoted statements allegedly said by Donald Trump. I began by telling them I am not a fan of Donald Trump and have never really cared for him on a personal level, then tried to explain to them that even left-leaning media sources had debunked those statements, they literally cut off communications and walked away from years and a lifetime of relations.
Not this TDS case. His hatred for Trump is beyond help.
This was super sweet❤
They have a hate boner for this man. I get it they hate this man with a passion. No one cares. I still don't like Michael Jackson, but I do not post a video a day saying how much he is the spawn of Satan or how he destroyed music. I just don't like his music, if you like it, cool. But to hate this man so much that your reasoning skills have gone out the window.
...and his supporters have a blind spot for him.
His response 4 minutes in was so stupid I just clicked off. Peace!
All of these points he brings up apply to the democrat party and harris as well
Note how it's all something Trump said.
Listen to Nocera's tone and Batchya's tone
Where does this fool get his news?
Joe should say the things Trump actually has done, but he keeps saying about things he said. Joe just seems to be a defender of the Liberal without even realizing it.
“I don’t hate Kamala Harris at all…” Their biggest stumbling block is rational thought
Stop being so worried about what Trump says, and start being worried about what the Democrats DO.
Donald Trump is referred to as 'Mr. President'. The same is true of Barack Obama. The difference is that at this moment Barack Obama may be the de facto current President (as it doesn't appear that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris are capable of performing that role.)
This is fascinating. I wonder what it's like to be so confused. That moment when he was condescending to his coworker about union membership numbers under Trump, acting convinced that union membership numbers didn't go up, when any looking into the question at all would have shown him he was dead wrong, and it was absolutely clear he had no idea at all about it and was just making it up entirely... astounding.
That a grown professional in the thinker class could be that blind to his own badly dysfunctional thinking is really wild. Twenty minutes of mind reading by a guy that I guarantee can't read minds...
I pray that I can see people like this weep because Trump is reelected.
People who pray would be the ones dumb enough to want him to be re-elected.
I won't weep if Trump is reelected because I know exactly what that means - higher tax cuts for the very rich, no more social liberalism but Trump won't turn back anything either, more money/weapons to Israel, etc. None of these will really impact me much. The "swamp" won't be drained since his administration will be staffed by literal GOP operatives. And in 4 years you'll have another election.
Stay informed the best you can. People that you think are intelligent aren’t.
This was a great show. As a Trump supporter it was nice to hear the other side discuss him without villainizing his supporters.
I love when Free Press presents their “fight club” episodes.
ROFL. This dude has bad TDS. You can't reason with them.
With all due respect, JOE doesn’t JUST have a major [severe] case of TDS level 1000 BUT truly believe he’s IRREPARABLY done… It’s very very sad 😑
Thank goodness for the 100 + million people who absolutely will vote for TRUMP on Nov 5 so they can FINALLY realize THEY were indefinitely wrong-
Seriously??? 🙄🙄🙄
OTHERWISE, he slightly redeemed himself at the end- BRAVO Batya & Joe to an extent 💙🤍❤️🦅
TRUMP 2024 ⏰⏰⏰
Terminal TDS
Good Grief
Why is she letting him get away with the BS he's spewing. I expect better from Batya.
They’re friends and colleagues. She got her points across. FP subscribers know what’s BS.
He would have evolved into a tantrum, possibly physical
He might be selling sneakers because New York charged him 500 million dollars cash for paying a loan.
I thought the third question would be what democratic process made Kamala the democratic nominee. Explain it to everyone slowly.
This needs to be hours longer!
This was really quite good! Its great to hear the sincere otherside of the argument even if it gets a bit illogical lol