What makes combat mission special summarized: - We're gonna have both teams target the enemy - Alpha team starts to open fire immediately - Bravo team cannot as they're undergoing a significant emotional event
I have been playing this game and the other games in this series for over 2 decades now and this is an excellent video intro to the game. I would make only one, small point regarding the wounded man mentioned @8:45 The "Combat Mission" games will award points based upon casualties and the chance of a wounded soldier becoming a KIA rather than a WIA is significantly higher if they are NOT given aid. It is not always a good idea to do so in the line of fire of the enemy; just saying it does make a difference (even in one-off engagements).
@@d.c.6065 I'd reckon he got it (via talking to them or BF) to help them promote it, and create a bunch of content to help Steam newcomers. As he has a very serious and solid video library of concise and effective tutorial content for the product... Call him an 'ambassador'... ;D
Awesome video! Your tutorial videos taught me a lot about this game. Not only how to play, but just how intricate and complex this unsuspecting little game can be. And for anyone that is interested, Steam has these games on sale. Like $23 US. I just bought Combat Mission: Black Sea last night.
@@usuallyhapless9481 well, either way there always well made and good to watch. It'd be good if some people at Battlefront see this series, and perhaps think about hiring you to make some tutorial videos. I know that at least one other youtuber has made tutorial videos for a games company ('Many a True Nerd' for Paradox), maybe Battlefront could ask you to do something similar.
yet again another great vid that does a better job at explaining the CMx2 engine better than battlefront would. It would be interesting to see how well CMSF 2 will be received by steam users, since now it will be openly and directly compared with other tactical sims.
Another brilliant video. Hoping that you move on to showing how to conduct an assault of an enemy position, base of fire etc. It's a really interesting point that you raise about the micro-terrain. People all too often focus on sticking to hedge rows and clumping squads together etc not realising that bullets don't get stopped by twigs.
Nice video! As the commando from C&C would say: "Keep 'em coming!" I have a request for a C2 tutorial, as I'm still pretty in the dark about how that exactly works and what the benefits of being in C2 link are.
Would be cool if they would implement some sort of mechanic in to the campaigns where failing to buddy aid a casualty that results in him dying causes that unit to carry a slight morale debuff in to the next mission.
Nice vid, Hapless! I wonder, how would have the firefight developed if you controled the defender syrian section. I did some tests by myself (in ww2 themed CM games however) and concluded that the section/platoon under my command wins nearly all the time, whatever army i'm in control. What are you thoughts about it? The AI is weak in concentrating firepower or what?
Yeah, the AI is no real match for a human opponent (which is good- no Skynet!). It mostly relies on the TacAI to select targets and choose when to engage, so here it opened up with the RPD at 500m, then it would engage with the RPG and AKMs at about 300m. A human player ordering it to engage at 500m would get those weapons going and an RPG landing in the US squad would really ruin their day.
just found yer channel first vid i watch was you as the syrians fighting your pal as the dutch . bought the game tonight will be playing tomomrrow and goona wastch all your vids on it :) and also ive subbed and belled
Another great video Hapless! I see you are advancing "one square at a time" with the A team. I'm guessing you are issuing some pause command at each square. Is this so they can spot for new targets at every opportunity or just so that the end of the turn won't caught them in the middle of a run? Maybe both? What are your thoughts on the game coming to Steam? I think it's great and hope it works out so more games will be published there.
Yes, I was going forward a square and pausing for either 5 or 10 seconds. The concept is the old "I'm up, he sees me, I'm down" to hopefully minimise pixeltruppen exposure. They can do some spotting and take some pot shots too. I think CM coming to Steam is going to be good for the game in general. There's obviously going to be a lot more exposure, more sales and hopefully Battlefront can re-invest that in the game.
i mean when you think about it the ai in games like this is making mostly rational and sound decisions but the player however is basicaly god and can do god knows what
I really wish NATO infantry doctrine could be properly modeled in game engines. Battle drill 1 & 2 are simple to teach and execute in real life, but quite hard to force a computer to do effectively.
What in particular do you mean? Give me a short summary please of what you're looking for the game to do. Are you talking airland battle? The Russians have it easy. They just have to do that big battalion March thing with BMPs and tanks and infantry. I'm really not sure what a classic NATO infantry doctrine is
That's exactly what commanders in the field should say, when one of their troops is in shock. Yell on the radio "! I'M UNABLE TO GIVE YOU COVERING FIRE, MY MACHINEGUNNER IS HAVING AN INSIGNIFICANT EMOTIONAL EVENT!".
Can you tell me the point of buddy aid? I under stand it in quick battles but does it do anything in Campaign like make the soldier come back later or no.
It doesn't do much. Soldiers incapacitated in a campaign are out of the fight and probably headed to hospital for some time, assuming they survive. Replacements do come in during campaigns, but in set percentages and at set times chosen by the campaign designer. So if you buddy aid some troops and it looks like they come back in the next mission, it's just coincidence.
Might get it when it releases on steam have been messing with the demo a bit hope it gets some UI reworks and some form of right click orders radial or move menu.
Not sure a UI re-work is on the table, but you can press spacebar to bring up a little orders menu at the mouse instead of using the bottom right panel, if that's any help.
@@zyhgar25 i feel how much a game is worth maybe 50 percent how much effort is put into it, this game although kinda fun doesn't have a ton of effort into it
Oh, man, I got their latest demo and... Holy cow, they did not change graphics, UI and splash screen since 2000, when I bought the very first Combat Mission O_O Even gun fire and smoke sprites are the same! 20 years...
you said cuz one of the team got shot the others were cowering, 5:31 This can also infuriate a fellow soldier but i don't think this mechanic exists in the game right? Who am i too say maybe sever mechanics should of been added instead one just cowering you know add different one to add to the realism
if you've bought CMSF2 from Battlefront already, there's a system for getting a Steam key: community.battlefront.com/topic/137434-how-to-get-your-cmsf2-game-on-steam/ It's not so much a transfer as making the game free on Steam if you already own it. As for non-port forwarding multiplayer, the Steam version is exactly the same as the Battlefront version, so no. For now at least.
Not in the commerically available games. You can stitch one together by saving every turn, recording them and putting them together in another program but... that's not great.
Anyone knows if this game is easy to learn for new players? I recently got Steel Division and Wargame: Red Dragon and micro managing in these games are very intense.
Gameplay here is almost the opposite of micromanagement, im learning it myself atm, and it is not that difficult if youre patient enough (and watch hapless' videos). The game also punishes mistakes hard, as in real battles, but thats how you learn, right?
I just hope it’s like 20-30 dollars. But nothing above that. They need to sell many titles so they bring more and get a larger audience. They aren’t well known, they don’t have the popular recognition to sell things for higher prices.
@@robertd9067 I like your optimism, but I don't think so. Its USD$60 on the BF site, and Slitherine (the Steam publisher) has plenty of wargame titles in exxy end of the scale
What makes combat mission special summarized:
- We're gonna have both teams target the enemy
- Alpha team starts to open fire immediately
- Bravo team cannot as they're undergoing a significant emotional event
Ngl, their cowering animations makes it look like they're crying for mama
@@jhudrickwrayterrado8791probably are lol
@@jhudrickwrayterrado8791 They just watched their buddy get his face shot off, I bet they are
"undergoing a significant emotional event"
Comic gold
Even as an "advanced" player, I'm really loving those Basics and Unit Guide videos!
Thanks very much man! I'm usually learning something new making each one.
Me too. Thanks Hapless.
You can play this game for years and still always learn something new.
@@holoween8103 One day I hope to learn how to win. ;)
Reinforcing the fundamentals in your mind can never hurt.
I have been playing this game and the other games in this series for over 2 decades now and this is an excellent video intro to the game. I would make only one, small point regarding the wounded man mentioned @8:45 The "Combat Mission" games will award points based upon casualties and the chance of a wounded soldier becoming a KIA rather than a WIA is significantly higher if they are NOT given aid. It is not always a good idea to do so in the line of fire of the enemy; just saying it does make a difference (even in one-off engagements).
"They are having a significant emotional event."
A fellow Nicholas ' The Chieftain' Moran enjoyer I see.
Oh yes
Noice!!! Wowa! You're all official now with the Steam version! Congrats Hapless!
Cheers man!
Didja get it early because of your channel? Or does everyone who had the game from Battlefront now have it on Steam before the 25th?
@@d.c.6065 I'd reckon he got it (via talking to them or BF) to help them promote it, and create a bunch of content to help Steam newcomers. As he has a very serious and solid video library of concise and effective tutorial content for the product... Call him an 'ambassador'... ;D
Regarding the wounded, I sometimes will make use of a scout team of 2 and relegate them treating wounded.
Awesome video! Your tutorial videos taught me a lot about this game. Not only how to play, but just how intricate and complex this unsuspecting little game can be. And for anyone that is interested, Steam has these games on sale. Like $23 US. I just bought Combat Mission: Black Sea last night.
What's this?! A Saturday Special?! Two videos in two days?! You're spoiling us Hapless(!)
Methinks hapless earned his name again...
Seems like a blitz of content before the steam version comes out. But yes, we are spoiled.
Yeah, a little bit. It's such a complex game I wanted to make sure I had got some extra tutorial-type content out before the Steam release.
@@usuallyhapless9481 well, either way there always well made and good to watch.
It'd be good if some people at Battlefront see this series, and perhaps think about hiring you to make some tutorial videos. I know that at least one other youtuber has made tutorial videos for a games company ('Many a True Nerd' for Paradox), maybe Battlefront could ask you to do something similar.
Thanks for the great videos. I picked up the game not long ago and your tutorials are great.
Glad you're enjoying them!
Need a video about urban, building-to-building combat - since that is the most dangerous one
Certainly in the pipeline ;)
yet again another great vid that does a better job at explaining the CMx2 engine better than battlefront would.
It would be interesting to see how well CMSF 2 will be received by steam users, since now it will be openly and directly compared with other tactical sims.
פעם ראשונה שאני רואה ישראלי מתעניין במשחק הזה חוץ ממני
@@stardekk1461 עוד אחד
@@Mikelp79 יפה
Another brilliant video. Hoping that you move on to showing how to conduct an assault of an enemy position, base of fire etc. It's a really interesting point that you raise about the micro-terrain. People all too often focus on sticking to hedge rows and clumping squads together etc not realising that bullets don't get stopped by twigs.
Your the spearhead of learning this game keep it up knowledge is power
Great tutorial as always Hapless. Keep up the good work! The community appreciates what you're doing!!
Yesss, combat mission is gonna be on steam finally!!!!
Nice video! As the commando from C&C would say: "Keep 'em coming!"
I have a request for a C2 tutorial, as I'm still pretty in the dark about how that exactly works and what the benefits of being in C2 link are.
Cheers man! C2 is a very murky area, but it's absolutely on my list.
this was very well edited. the bit at the end was very satisfying.
Thanks for this! It would definitely be cool to see you build this up with more units and equipment, as you say.
I really like this kind of content. Thanks for all the effort you put into making videos for such a niche game!
Thank you! This is awesome. This “split teams” tip helped me a lot.
Another excellent tutorial video...thanks for all you do.
Excellent vid. Really explained a lot that you don’t see while playing. Thx
Would be cool if they would implement some sort of mechanic in to the campaigns where failing to buddy aid a casualty that results in him dying causes that unit to carry a slight morale debuff in to the next mission.
Great video, I really like the idea, looking forward to new videos.
Subscribed and ringbell for that series keep up the great Work, and have a nice Day im waiting for more!
😁
Thanks Hapless ;)
Been in touch with Slitherine hey. Hapless live steams on the official Slitherine twitch channel confirmed!!!
If only I could guarantee peace and quiet around here... the audio for the videos has a fair bit of editing going on behind the scenes.
Nice vid, Hapless! I wonder, how would have the firefight developed if you controled the defender syrian section. I did some tests by myself (in ww2 themed CM games however) and concluded that the section/platoon under my command wins nearly all the time, whatever army i'm in control. What are you thoughts about it? The AI is weak in concentrating firepower or what?
Yeah, the AI is no real match for a human opponent (which is good- no Skynet!). It mostly relies on the TacAI to select targets and choose when to engage, so here it opened up with the RPD at 500m, then it would engage with the RPG and AKMs at about 300m. A human player ordering it to engage at 500m would get those weapons going and an RPG landing in the US squad would really ruin their day.
just found yer channel first vid i watch was you as the syrians fighting your pal as the dutch . bought the game tonight will be playing tomomrrow and goona wastch all your vids on it :) and also ive subbed and belled
Please, when the game comes out on steam. Make a steam guide where you link back to these videos for new players.
That's the plan ;)
thanks for your awesome videos, makes learning a lot easier
Most rods don't have lumps and bumps in them large enough to hide a solder... unless you live in New Mexico.
i hope we will be able to move over to steam version with already purchased copy from battlefront
;) community.battlefront.com/topic/137434-how-to-get-your-cmsf2-game-on-steam/
Usually Hapless awesome thank you
Another great video Hapless! I see you are advancing "one square at a time" with the A team. I'm guessing you are issuing some pause command at each square. Is this so they can spot for new targets at every opportunity or just so that the end of the turn won't caught them in the middle of a run? Maybe both?
What are your thoughts on the game coming to Steam? I think it's great and hope it works out so more games will be published there.
Yes, I was going forward a square and pausing for either 5 or 10 seconds. The concept is the old "I'm up, he sees me, I'm down" to hopefully minimise pixeltruppen exposure. They can do some spotting and take some pot shots too.
I think CM coming to Steam is going to be good for the game in general. There's obviously going to be a lot more exposure, more sales and hopefully Battlefront can re-invest that in the game.
I hope steam workshop is going to be coming along with it?
If CM is coming to Steam, my friend, then nothing is impossible.
Slitherine do have other games with Steam Workshop support, so here's hoping.
i mean when you think about it the ai in games like this is making mostly rational and sound decisions but the player however is basicaly god and can do god knows what
its a shame that graphics arent polished, it could have been epic
Another question sorry. Can you make engineers breach a wall without entering it?
Yes, by using the Blast command (providing they have demo charges). If you put the command on your side of the wall, they'll just blow a hole in it.
@@usuallyhapless9481 great to know. Thank you!
Thank you!
Nice video! Thx
I really wish NATO infantry doctrine could be properly modeled in game engines. Battle drill 1 & 2 are simple to teach and execute in real life, but quite hard to force a computer to do effectively.
What in particular do you mean? Give me a short summary please of what you're looking for the game to do. Are you talking airland battle? The Russians have it easy. They just have to do that big battalion March thing with BMPs and tanks and infantry. I'm really not sure what a classic NATO infantry doctrine is
That's exactly what commanders in the field should say, when one of their troops is in shock. Yell on the radio "! I'M UNABLE TO GIVE YOU COVERING FIRE, MY MACHINEGUNNER IS HAVING AN INSIGNIFICANT EMOTIONAL EVENT!".
Can you tell me the point of buddy aid? I under stand it in quick battles but does it do anything in Campaign like make the soldier come back later or no.
It doesn't do much. Soldiers incapacitated in a campaign are out of the fight and probably headed to hospital for some time, assuming they survive. Replacements do come in during campaigns, but in set percentages and at set times chosen by the campaign designer. So if you buddy aid some troops and it looks like they come back in the next mission, it's just coincidence.
Might get it when it releases on steam have been messing with the demo a bit hope it gets some UI reworks and some form of right click orders radial or move menu.
Not sure a UI re-work is on the table, but you can press spacebar to bring up a little orders menu at the mouse instead of using the bottom right panel, if that's any help.
Do you think this game is even worth 60
@@zyhgar25 i feel how much a game is worth maybe 50 percent how much effort is put into it, this game although kinda fun doesn't have a ton of effort into it
@@zyhgar25 yea, so the fact its 60 seems kinda overpriced to me, the least they could do is make the soldiers move normal but they don't even do that
@@zyhgar25 yea that would be nice
Oh, man, I got their latest demo and... Holy cow, they did not change graphics, UI and splash screen since 2000, when I bought the very first Combat Mission O_O Even gun fire and smoke sprites are the same! 20 years...
Is there anything you could do with the casualties? Like treat them or something? New to the game
Not a lot, pretty much just stabilise them and possibly steal weapons and ammo: ruclips.net/video/XDaKrXvEKkI/видео.html
you said cuz one of the team got shot the others were cowering, 5:31 This can also infuriate a fellow soldier but i don't think this mechanic exists in the game right? Who am i too say maybe sever mechanics should of been added instead one just cowering you know add different one to add to the realism
Well, I'm not sure angry pixeltruppen would make any difference, whilst cowering ones do.
Are there any mods/any rangers or special forces? Game looks cool
excellent video,but how to aid a wounded comrade and take weapon?
11:17
American Forces in a nutshell lol
Fuck yes steam CM!!!!!! Steam groups will make easy more easy to find rnd matches and players!!!
is there a combat missiom discord where we can share and learn from each others?
discord.gg/xjqtqE ;)
Do we know if we can transfer our non steam version to Steam? And will it have non port forwarding multiplayer?
if you've bought CMSF2 from Battlefront already, there's a system for getting a Steam key: community.battlefront.com/topic/137434-how-to-get-your-cmsf2-game-on-steam/
It's not so much a transfer as making the game free on Steam if you already own it.
As for non-port forwarding multiplayer, the Steam version is exactly the same as the Battlefront version, so no. For now at least.
What does it mean when the circle under the troops is yellow rather than green?
It means the soldier is lightly wounded- so he's been hit by something, but he's able to carry on.
Is there a way to get a full replay of a match?
Not in the commerically available games. You can stitch one together by saving every turn, recording them and putting them together in another program but... that's not great.
Bit buggy/glitchy those troops are,have they or do they plan to sort that?
Does "coming to steam" mean no longer available from Battlefront.com direct as an option?
No, the games will also be available directly from Battlefront and Slitherine.
@@im8015 Thanks. I never want to be locked into the Steam system.
Anyone knows if this game is easy to learn for new players? I recently got Steel Division and Wargame: Red Dragon and micro managing in these games are very intense.
Gameplay here is almost the opposite of micromanagement, im learning it myself atm, and it is not that difficult if youre patient enough (and watch hapless' videos). The game also punishes mistakes hard, as in real battles, but thats how you learn, right?
1500 rnds?! Sweet Jesus.
is the game free?
Looks like ARMA Gold Edition.
How do you viewlock on a unit?
Tab
what is this map?
How much will the steam version be?
That's the big question. I'm watching closely.
I just hope it’s like 20-30 dollars. But nothing above that. They need to sell many titles so they bring more and get a larger audience. They aren’t well known, they don’t have the popular recognition to sell things for higher prices.
@@robertd9067 I like your optimism, but I don't think so. Its USD$60 on the BF site, and Slitherine (the Steam publisher) has plenty of wargame titles in exxy end of the scale