Post Race Talk after Kyle Busch spins Dale Jr. at Richmond

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  • Опубликовано: 2 май 2008
  • Interviews with Kyle Busch and Dale Jr. Kyle trys to explain it wasn't his fault and that Jr. didn't give him enough slack. Dale Jr. was just very disappointed and said that it was just very unfortunate that he got wrecked.
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  • @DavidJameson687
    @DavidJameson687 15 лет назад +14

    I'm far from a Junior fan, but he had a great attitude about this whole situation. Classy guy.

  • @purplecow5150
    @purplecow5150 3 года назад +10

    i think this race had major impact on the rest of junior's career going forward.

    • @DavidJameson687
      @DavidJameson687 5 месяцев назад

      I agree with that. Dale Jr's career momentum took a big hit for a while after this race. Only in 2014 and 2015 did he perform like he did in his prime (2000-2004).

    • @patrickroden4481
      @patrickroden4481 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@DavidJameson6872012 was also on par with that era until the concussions. 2011 and 2013 were also pretty good

  • @SuperRobbie1976
    @SuperRobbie1976 13 лет назад +3

    dale jr is the class of the field.JR win or loose you the man

  • @ScottXC91
    @ScottXC91 11 лет назад +5

    Watching Jr during this sort of 2009-2010 or 2011 period is just plain depressing. He's just always so out of it. I'm really glad to see he's got some pep in his step again.

  • @djanderson8615
    @djanderson8615 9 лет назад +1

    I love it how people say Kyle turned right to finish the job but if he didnt do that then they both would of spun. He was just saving himself from wrecking at the end of the race

  • @ethanhamm428
    @ethanhamm428 8 лет назад +13

    At least Kyle apologized

    • @ericmonaco2276
      @ericmonaco2276 8 лет назад +4

      Still don't like him

    • @billyrouse4813
      @billyrouse4813 8 лет назад

      +Steven Simpkins in Sprint Cup only, yes.

    • @JJA1987
      @JJA1987 8 лет назад +7

      Kyle never apologizes for shit

    • @caseymcdonald4431
      @caseymcdonald4431 5 лет назад

      Thats the only driver Kyle apologized to.

    • @wesfinch1676
      @wesfinch1676 4 года назад +1

      One is a champion and the other is an Earnhardt.

  • @paulagilliland6718
    @paulagilliland6718 9 лет назад +9

    all I can say is that Dale Jr. is his father's son.........so he was sticking to his line.

  • @dbeezycentex
    @dbeezycentex 14 лет назад +15

    whenever Kyle wrecks someone "its just good hard racin and that stuff happens" but when someone wrecks him he goes to whining and crying like a three year old

  • @55ironrebel
    @55ironrebel 9 лет назад +1

    Jr saw the replay and renewed his mind and him and Kyle were back to being buds....

  • @hanswentz6243
    @hanswentz6243 8 лет назад +25

    You can see the wheel turn right when he spins him

    • @Thomas-ib9iu
      @Thomas-ib9iu 8 лет назад

      +Hans Wentz He was loose..

    • @Thepx31
      @Thepx31 8 лет назад +2

      +iBeast uBad suuuuuuuuure

    • @JJA1987
      @JJA1987 8 лет назад +2

      +Thomas Brigman He intentionally turned him look at the wheels turn right

    • @tmthylthm
      @tmthylthm 7 лет назад

      So you're the type of guy that would spin yourself out just so you didn't want to make something look intentional.
      If you accidentally hit someone like that, always turn your wheels to the right so that you don't spin yourself out.

    • @supertornadogun1690
      @supertornadogun1690 3 года назад

      Probably so kyle didn't spin out himself

  • @nascarkraz
    @nascarkraz 15 лет назад +4

    "He's gonna need extra security from all of us." Ooooo

  • @savagespirit9457
    @savagespirit9457 5 лет назад +1

    Kyle needs a strong dose of Dale Sr. Jr isn’t generally vindictive, but Sr woulda opened up a can of whupass and taught Kyle a thing or two about aggressive driving. I am amazed Kyle made it outta the track without security after that. Junior nation is an unforgiving bunch!

  • @LouiePrincipe
    @LouiePrincipe 11 лет назад +1

    keep at it Kyle!! all these jr fans would love if they drove like Rowdy. and when he does wreck someone its nothing but cheers for JR. you people make no sense lol. More talent then JR has and if you think otherwise you are a homer or a hater

  • @jonathanfunnell4167
    @jonathanfunnell4167 3 года назад

    KYLE BUSCH AND DALE EARNHARDT JR. ARE AWESOME RACERS

  • @rjstur
    @rjstur 14 лет назад

    Totaly agree!! They just don't want to look at that. There is ALOT of other drivers that don't have the on track success that Jr has yet I don't hear the crap about them.
    I should also mention that could sombody tell me the last time a four car team had ALL four cars running up front?
    I'll tell ya, Roush, all five in the chase. Only once in history. Keep in mind the 88 team is the old 25. How did that team run in the past??

  • @Sinflux420
    @Sinflux420 16 лет назад

    Lol what ive noticed about Jr. is he NEVER blames anyone but himself, at least everytime i see him getting wrecked he never blames anyone but himself and never blows up on camera. Kyle Busch is a whole nother story...

  • @HaloKing8448
    @HaloKing8448 10 лет назад

    I agree, he did something almost similar at Bristol earlier this year towards the end of the race.

  • @CFCID
    @CFCID 16 лет назад

    i dont watch nascar often but whenever i do kyle busch is doin real well... doesnt take an expert to realize kyle busch has talent

  • @PchanStitch
    @PchanStitch 13 лет назад +1

    @pikahudude387 And that's why Kyle Busch is fourth in points (just 16 behind Edwards) and Dale Jr is one inevitable bad finish away from falling out of the chase, right? Plus, it also explains Kyle Busch's multiple wins this year and last year and Dale Jr not winning under green since 2006? (roughly 200 races...)

  • @mitchm6083
    @mitchm6083 3 года назад

    Nascar just ain't nascar without Kyle Busch.

  • @famcole5
    @famcole5 11 лет назад

    9. California, Vegas, Texas(2), Pocono, Michigan, Bristol, Atlanta, and Homestead.

  • @bluestreakblues
    @bluestreakblues 13 лет назад +3

    @Scourgemaster193 --I, as well, started hating him at that moment, and still do.

  • @jacobbayers6364
    @jacobbayers6364 4 года назад +1

    I feel like if Denny came down pit road when he started having the tire problem then jr would have won cause there would have been no caution

    • @laurastuhler4791
      @laurastuhler4791 4 года назад

      Exactly, how is that he's stopped before the caution comes out then he somehow gets going again and makes pit road after the caution comes out. Complete crap, that race was over Jr. had it won.

  • @MikePattison
    @MikePattison 14 лет назад

    I have personally seen 2 interviews after a crash that was very similar to to this one, it's not that I'm just pickin on the guy, I can't remember where or who was involved, but Kyle got loose and put someone in the wall. It was an accident, he didn't mean to. And he basically said it was unfortunate. But every time someone else gets loose, he talks like they don't know how to drive and its all their fault. I'm sure that he would be very upset getting put out of the race, but accidents happen.

  • @pikahudude387
    @pikahudude387 13 лет назад

    @PchanStitch Glorious exposition comrade!

  • @goragan6
    @goragan6 15 лет назад

    if you see the video carefully. you can see they two got loose, kyle bush just turned his car to the left to save it,but jr was there so he got wreck. i'm sorry for him,i know he could win that race

  • @NASCARJoe389
    @NASCARJoe389 14 лет назад

    This is just about where it started going downhill for Junior...

  • @xxCrazyEights88xx
    @xxCrazyEights88xx 10 лет назад

    Even though Denny led the most laps, it was not classy to stop on the race track when he had time to make it to the pits with 15 to go. Dale Jr had that race won if it were not for that. Just ridiculous. Glad he got held 2 laps.

  • @wilatemodel
    @wilatemodel 14 лет назад +5

    jr showed class in this interveiw...

  • @CarlileStanton
    @CarlileStanton 16 лет назад

    The blame was 50/50, they just didn't give each other enough room. Kyle was committed to the inside line, you could see that, he was committed when they came off turn two and down the back straight. Dale knew he was there and could have turned up the race track a little bit but at the same time Kyle could have backed out the throttle a tad and waited a bit longer, he had the faster car, if he didn't he would not have been up the inside and all over Dale. It a racing incident and 50/50 blame

  • @PchanStitch
    @PchanStitch 13 лет назад

    @Scourgemaster193 Ironic thing is, Kyle Busch did exactly as Dale Sr would have done. Jr came down to block, and Kyle pushed back. Jr lost that battle.
    Love him or hate him, Kyle's attitude and driving style are almost identical to that of Dale Sr and Darrel Waltrip in the 70s and 80s.

  • @10shakeNbake
    @10shakeNbake 10 лет назад

    Sorry that people have the most outrageous expectations for him because of his family name. His daddy was the greatest to ever drive a racecar in Nascar history, (besides Richard Petty of course) People expect him to be just as good as his dad and people say that he sucks even though he has made the chase all but one of the years that the chase has been around.

  • @chochoobaca55
    @chochoobaca55 12 лет назад

    Youre a Kyle fan? Please tell me how its like to always sit at the bottom of the Chase leaderboard while watching better drivers put points on the board? :)

  • @Tishad100
    @Tishad100 15 лет назад +1

    Kyle Busch Rules period.

  • @TheMacMan35
    @TheMacMan35 16 лет назад

    Dale Sr. also had a pretty similar post-race personality aswell,he would push reporters and get in little scuffs. You should check out some old vids with him wrecking, and see the similarities. They really aren't that different, a little bit though. The main diff is probably the generation of drivers now. They all have somthing to bitch about. Thats why I lost alot of interest in racing since Dale Sr. died.

  • @RCmack
    @RCmack 16 лет назад

    Cale Yarborough was an aggressive driver in his heyday. He won multiple championships.
    Kyle Busch didn't intend to spin out Dale Jr. He got loose when he wrecked Junior. Kyle just drives aggressive, like Cale used to. Kyle, like Cale, may win several NASCAR titles.
    But it's too bad Junior was wrecked last night. He could have easily won. It was also too bad Denny Hamlin had a flat tire in the closing laps. Denny had the dominant car.

  • @Daywalker8204
    @Daywalker8204 14 лет назад

    He didn't get loose until after he turned up into him. Watch the video. I have driven many race cars and know what one loose looks like from the outside. The car doesn't get sideways until after he got into him. Its natural to drift up a little bit getting into a corner. But when you know some body is on the outside of you, you give them room. What is Kyle's excuse every other time he spins someone out. Watch the look on his face when he talks during the press conference. He knows what he did.

  • @Slotten68
    @Slotten68 14 лет назад

    I love how Junior fans say that Kyle Busch sucks. Kyle Busch has won more races this year than Dale Junior has since the beginning of the 2006 season.

  • @papano12
    @papano12 14 лет назад

    Well Daywalker8204 if you knew about race cars, you'd know kyle was going about 105 miles per hour in the inside lane, going that fast in the inside will make ur care wiggle. If you watch it again ull see both kyle and Jr carried the same speed going into the turn which isn't normal. Outside lane and inside lane should carry diff speeds. Outside is most likely to get a momentum off the turn but Kyle drove a bit too hard into the turn. Plus u can't prove that he meant to do wat he did so LOL!

  • @ZBULLET523
    @ZBULLET523 14 лет назад

    This is why i like Jr he has class

  • @TheSTATiiCchannel
    @TheSTATiiCchannel 12 лет назад

    i love the amount of wins for jr in the past 4 years don't ya say?

  • @dragoness0420
    @dragoness0420 16 лет назад

    As a Jr. fan this flat-out pissed me off. But after watching it probably 30 times (no joke!), it comes down to aggressive driving. I am NOT defending Kyle on this, but I think they could've BOTH given a little. Kyle apparently "loose" but Jr. cut down knowing that Kyle was there. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS!! I feel for Jr., but Kyle lost his opportunity to win, too. It was a little bit of dirty racing on both their parts...let's see what's gonna happen, if anyone will "retaliate" this weekend...

  • @PchanStitch
    @PchanStitch 12 лет назад

    I wish they would hire you as a reporter as well to see what happens when you go up against one of them...

  • @PchanStitch
    @PchanStitch 12 лет назад

    @MrBurney12 Kyle also has 3 times more CUP wins than Dale Sr did at this point in his career. In seven years Dale Sr had seven CUP wins, and in the seven years Kyle Busch has been cup racing, he's had 23....

  • @TheMacMan35
    @TheMacMan35 16 лет назад

    Easy buddy, I'm a stewart fan, and if you like the Earnhardts as much as i do, you would relize that Earnhardt Sr. and Stewart have very similar driving personalities, they both would fight and bump others to get ahead in a race I do like Jr., and i love Sr. but next time you say you hate the way Stewart drives, just look at some old Earnhardt vids, he races the same way. Again, when Sr. raced I loved him and his personality, the same way I like Stewart's. P.S. rubbins' racin'!

  • @CVetteMan1111
    @CVetteMan1111 16 лет назад

    That shot of kyle "pushing" up If kyle needed to correct himself the track turns to the left... the air pushes DOWN the laws of physics say turn towards the bottom not the top

  • @himrchp
    @himrchp 16 лет назад

    dj had a lot to live up too man, his father gave his life for this sport, and dj stepped it up like any good son would have. he's owned in every car he's stepped in, or got wrecked trying. you can see kyle turning into him on the corner, Period.

  • @TaxEvasion9
    @TaxEvasion9 13 лет назад

    I just watched this interview (Dale Jr. only) in slow motion and then watching this it seems like they're talking to fast LOL

  • @RyanTheIncredible882
    @RyanTheIncredible882 13 лет назад

    With 21 races remaining, Jr needs one top ten to outperform his 2010 stats.

  • @claybradley6122
    @claybradley6122 6 лет назад

    The way Kyles car goes up the track after Jr's car goes sideways, it looks intentional. Plain and simple.
    Yeah, Kyles car did get a little loose for second but, it still looked intentional to me.

  • @Motorsporting
    @Motorsporting 13 лет назад

    @Slotten68 Dosent matter if hes been close to a win... im a big JR FAN cause he race because he love it not only for the money.. and he is not crying everytime the race isnt going like he want it to like Kyle Busch.

  • @NascarMicci
    @NascarMicci 13 лет назад

    @NascarMicci That made no sense. I meant to say that if Kyle got spun it would've just been racing and not Jr.'s fault. I don't know why I said that before. Weird.

  • @geopars9396
    @geopars9396 Год назад

    That was Ross chastain driving the Kyle Bush car. It's always Chastains fault

  • @XxConnorsxX
    @XxConnorsxX 15 лет назад

    yup thats true about denny hamlin, he stopped on purpose cause jr had a 15 second lead and was on the way to victory lane

  • @PchanStitch
    @PchanStitch 13 лет назад

    @KodyT1989
    1.) I said under green. The 2008 'win' was under yellow.
    2.) He didn't have enough gas to finish if the race stayed green, so if the caution DIDN'T come out, he would have lost, plain and simple. Which also means if the current green-white-checkered rules were in effect, he ALSO would have lost.
    Therefore, it was more a win just given to him than a bonafied earned win.

  • @playstation123lover
    @playstation123lover 15 лет назад

    kyle bush is not mad or sad because he moved up to 1st in the pionts and he did not meen that when he said sorry

  • @Heathcoatman
    @Heathcoatman 12 лет назад +1

    A Kyle busch fan calling anyone dumb, that is hilarious

  • @buggster69
    @buggster69 14 лет назад +1

    you want some cheese with that wine

  • @nascarmario23
    @nascarmario23 13 лет назад

    @jrfan07 That's right! Even though I'm a Busch fan, I agree that he dumped Jr. but people need to get over it!

  • @music_holds_my_fading_soul
    @music_holds_my_fading_soul 14 лет назад

    @KYLE18RULES we all saw him turn right so stuff it. junior is the man. any other junior fans caring to back me up here? this guy must love kyle or something.

  • @thetruespidermonkey
    @thetruespidermonkey 11 лет назад +1

    I'm glad to see somebody here knows wtf their talking about. lol. Thank you.

  • @SpeedDemon88X
    @SpeedDemon88X 16 лет назад

    last night was a sad race for dennny and junior, both should have finished in the top 3 but thanks to a flat tire and kyle busch, both ended up outside the top ten. Kyle Busch just wants more fans to boo him I guess.

  • @CoolPix888
    @CoolPix888 11 лет назад

    Thats is my favorite youtube video

  • @DanPodhola
    @DanPodhola 16 лет назад

    Drifting is the figure skating of motorsports.

  • @dudeustupid
    @dudeustupid 14 лет назад

    haha i love the question she asked jr, if he would need security. It dont matter if it was intentional or not hes gonna need security from jr nation

  • @jspons1221
    @jspons1221 12 лет назад

    scottf251- you need a new pair of glasses? The 88 didn't cut across anything. He held his line and left plenty of room. The contact happened a lane and a half up from the apron. That was totally Kyle's fault.

  • @anthonyzuk4223
    @anthonyzuk4223 3 года назад

    Looks like Kyle had the groove. Also looks like he turned right. Shit happens in racing.

  • @TheSTATiiCchannel
    @TheSTATiiCchannel 12 лет назад

    im guessing your a junior fan. i congradulate you on your 1 win in 4 years. ill take kyle's what...25 wins in 7 years or so?

  • @bobbydean2
    @bobbydean2 11 лет назад +2

    he is doing good in points anyways :)

  • @josefo33
    @josefo33 9 лет назад +16

    Dale Junior = gentleman

    • @angel18fan22
      @angel18fan22 8 лет назад +3

      Kyle Busch = Champion

    • @trevorphippsvlogs5176
      @trevorphippsvlogs5176 7 лет назад

      you mean bumb fuck just listen to his interviews

    • @ebc5292
      @ebc5292 7 лет назад +3

      Sometimes people get what they don't deserve Jr is ten times the driver kyle will ever be

    • @jeffmccain5165
      @jeffmccain5165 5 лет назад

      @@ebc5292 I'm a junior fan but that's b*******

  • @shocker0
    @shocker0 16 лет назад

    He's terrible if you're not a fan of his. Cause last time I checked he's on top of the standings.

  • @505197
    @505197 14 лет назад

    @garra7888
    I't a tough call as to if Jr. pinched Kyle down too tight or if Kyle pushed up some. But there is a defensive move you have to use if you're in Kyles position with Jr.s door where it was on Kyles front fender. You can spin a guy from the outside, when you are hard on the brakes and turning a nudge from Jr.s door can pin the front end of Kyles car and make it loop, If he had yanked it left he'd have probably lost it and got Jr with his rear end anyway.

  • @DaveyMurray1
    @DaveyMurray1 13 лет назад

    @jeremiahhill54
    The thing is he's running better now than he was in the last few years in the 8 car.

  • @Slotten68
    @Slotten68 13 лет назад

    @88fanforlife ....EVERYONE was a Junior fan since day one, id love to hear about a junior fan that admits they are bandwagoning
    My point though is not so much that Junior fans aren't fairweather fans, but that they dont need to be. Unlike other sports where decade long losing streaks are painful on a whole new level (like my 100 losses/year Mil Brewers from 1995-2005), Junior fans dont really need him to win to be happy. This is because...EVERYONE IS A JUNIOR FAN! How can you NOT stick w/him?

  • @18greene
    @18greene 14 лет назад +1

    @wordogne yeah my bad i think your right, i can't stand montoya and im still trying to figure out why someone gave him a shot. i completely forgot about him

  • @LT1HILLINGHOE
    @LT1HILLINGHOE 12 лет назад

    @Slotten68 The tough thing for you is that online degrees in home security or dietary aides don't really mean much. At least you still got that corporate memorized line of "Would you like pies or fries?" working for you.

  • @PchanStitch
    @PchanStitch 12 лет назад

    I imagine he was, especially since he knows it won't be happening again any time soon.

  • @DJBumgarner
    @DJBumgarner 13 лет назад

    You people do realize that when a car gets loose you have to turn right to save it, correct?
    I like both Jr and Kyle but it was a racing deal.

  • @garrettsyoutube
    @garrettsyoutube 16 лет назад

    he got loose, he was trying to save his car...it's racing, jr didn't give him much room to play and when busch got loose it was over

  • @dirtpogoinbroke
    @dirtpogoinbroke 16 лет назад

    Kyle is the most exciting driver for racing fans,since the passing of Dale Sr.,those who hate Kyle today will be his biggest fans tomorrow. Dale Jr. fans are tired of beating a dead horse and will soon join KYLE NATION!Jr. sold out his fans when he teamed up with JEFF GORDON!

  • @PchanStitch
    @PchanStitch 13 лет назад

    @IndestructibleDV LOL, touched a nerve there, didn't I?
    Kyle's always gonna be a better driver than the piece of trash known as Jr, deal with it. :P Jr has MAYBE three wins left in his Sprint cup career, sooner or later, he's gonna be forgotten, and Busch WILL be in the Hall of Fame as an all time great, his driving style is identical to that of Sr in his early years.

  • @brutalshooter
    @brutalshooter 13 лет назад +2

    @mmench1 wtf? he was runnin his line lol

  • @cpcomedy314
    @cpcomedy314 13 лет назад

    @Scourgemaster193 Dale Jr did this to Jeff Burton at the Crown Royal 400.

  • @go882nite
    @go882nite 11 лет назад

    @scottxc91 he wasn't terrible in 2011 just didn't contend for wins actually he did a couple times but Harvick was there at martins lile and he ran out of gas at the coke 600

  • @rvegasguy_5216
    @rvegasguy_5216 11 лет назад

    Dale Jr will win multiple championships before he retires

  • @88fanforlife
    @88fanforlife 13 лет назад

    he has not had good luck with hms, sure he had the win at michigian but in 08 he had good chances to win, had a couple of bad years then in 2011 he crashes in the 500, loses at martinsville, we all know what happened at charlotte, finished 2nd at kansas, and now this year at michigan his own teammate ran him in the wall, man whats gonna happen to him next this year

  • @gotemlookin20
    @gotemlookin20 14 лет назад

    First of all...I've never seen Kyle cry. Second...He tells it like it is, and that's all you get from him. He doesn't dwell on mishaps. He says his piece and moves on.
    and...there's no need to act all high and mighty and try to sound smarter than everyone else. It's obvious you can't take your own advice and move on because your still commenting about this 2 YEARS after it had already happened. lol

  • @googooplasm
    @googooplasm 15 лет назад

    if Kyle Busch had a better attitude he could be one of the greatest drivers out there...but his temper keeps getting him into trouble

  • @gustavitousa
    @gustavitousa 15 лет назад

    junior, the paris hilton of nascar

  • @Tishad100
    @Tishad100 15 лет назад

    Almost all of the JR fans are over 50

  • @MrBurney12
    @MrBurney12 13 лет назад

    Jr. himself doesn't make excuses for when things don't go his way. Kyle makes a damn habbit of blaming everyone like when he got side drafted in michigan and was mad because johny sauter didn't just lay down and give it to him. I wish dale sr. would have raced against kyle. If ol rowdy bumped earnhardt back in the day sr. would have wrecked him so hard he would never get in a race car again.

  • @slashed026
    @slashed026 15 лет назад

    look at all the room jr had at the top

  • @dhamfn11
    @dhamfn11 15 лет назад

    Listen to the video.. he goes from "I have done the same thing before its racing" then he goes. "I got wrecked"

  • @magpiemaniac
    @magpiemaniac 6 лет назад

    It’s NASCAR, not Olympic swimming.

  • @xCricket11x
    @xCricket11x 16 лет назад

    Watching Dale Jr interviews has become increasingly awkward for some reason...he pauses a lot. But I could see why, he actually thinks about what he's going to say o.0
    oh and lol to the note about kyle needing security, hahaa.

  • @Shocker9688
    @Shocker9688 16 лет назад

    Ok he will take those words to the bank while Jr. sets behind him in points. How much does being Mr. Nice guy and losing the cup pay? Besides, do some research on Kyle you'll find out he's a great guy, and going to make a great champ. He donated 500,000 dollars to charity last year.

  • @daltondogger
    @daltondogger 10 лет назад +1

    Could Jr.spit out his chew prior to inteviews ?

  • @GoChargersGo23
    @GoChargersGo23 13 лет назад

    You could almost excuse the wreck (though i wouldn't). But to tell JR it was "not all about him" was what put me over the limit. I remember hating Kurt too but eventually he stopped acting like an idiot. Kyles talented, don't get me wrong, but he simply has no class.

  • @Noshockr1
    @Noshockr1 10 лет назад

    Stupid Comment. This your 1st race? Busch is "The Wheelman". He has shown many times how GREAT of a driver he is. Comments like that just show jealousy

  • @NascarMicci
    @NascarMicci 13 лет назад

    Why is it when Jr. wrecks, people say it's never his fault but when Jr. wrecks somebody people still say it's not his fault?