Analysis of D-flat Major Fugue from Shostakovich's "24 Preludes and Fugues," Op. 87

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    Richard Atkinson analyzes the D-flat Major Fugue from Shostakovich's "24 Preludes and Fugues," Op. 87. This is a fair use educational commentary that uses a performance/recording of Konstantin Scherbakov at the piano and a performance/recording of Michel Chapuis at the organ.

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  • @MasonIshida
    @MasonIshida 7 лет назад +159

    Please do more Shostakovich, this video was awesome!

  • @CRCVDE
    @CRCVDE 6 лет назад +67

    Very nice analysis! But I think there is so much more to say about this piece for example that it has for sure 2 countersubjects perhaps even 3 but that's arguable. Also what is really cool is that this "3rd countersubject" if it really is one (the soprano part line in the exposition during the entry of the bass) is partially retrograded in the chords from bar 244 onwards. Also the importance of this very long G in the bass towards the end. This G is really and special moment since it is the only pitch left out from the subject (when played in Db) the construction of this piece is so amazing... One could talk at least an hour about all these fantastic details of this piece! :)

  • @hexpex5903
    @hexpex5903 3 месяца назад +4

    Seemingly random picture of shosty holding a piglet is pure comedy gold

    • @hexpex5903
      @hexpex5903 3 месяца назад

      Thanks for giving a heart, by the way is it possible for you to make a video on mozarts fugue for two pianos in the future.

  • @og6430
    @og6430 6 лет назад +51

    This has to be one of the greatest youtube channels ever! I instantly subscribed after watching the video about three examples of Haydn's rhythmic displacements. These videos are a gift to humanity. Keep it up!
    Greetings from a German jazz pianist ;)

  • @SunnyKhuranaViolin
    @SunnyKhuranaViolin Месяц назад

    Love your videos! I am a 19 yr old conservatory violinist and have learned so many details about pieces I already knew and loved from your channel. Several in the Brahms symphonies which I may have never discovered in my life. Learned of some new works as well. Shostakovich did love to use augmentation a lot during fugues or fugue sections. I love the fugue in the second movement of his 11th symphony where there is also very complex augmentation paired with chromatic scales in the low brass. Of course that is followed by what is in my opinion, one of the most epic percussion moments in orchestral music. One of the last contrapuntal geniuses! I love Shostakovich. I hope to have your keen sense of analysis one day!

  • @10mimu
    @10mimu 5 лет назад +8

    I like how free Shotakovich is with this counterpoint - some subject entries are octave or even chordal passages yet clear - not to mention the thirds and cadences.

  • @MasonIshida
    @MasonIshida 7 лет назад +25

    Also the beginning of the fugue subject is derived from the second theme of the prelude

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  7 лет назад +10

      That's true - I forgot to mention how similar their contours are.

  • @bri13wvu1
    @bri13wvu1 5 лет назад +13

    Goodness what a crazy and genius work! One of the members of our clarinet quartet arranged this, and we worked on it quite a bit. It was extremely challenging, and exhilarating when we got it right.

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 5 лет назад +4

      It is also extremely challenging to play on the piano. I tried it many times but out of the 24 in the cycle this one will probably forever stay a closed book to me.

  • @gspaulsson
    @gspaulsson 4 года назад +3

    I have the feeling that Sh. was constantly thumbing his nose at Stalin. There is that fugue of his that contains no dissonances: "you want bland music? here you are." Then his comical Ninth, when he was supposed to be celebrating victory with some monumental homage to Beethoven.

  • @nicholaslatina4464
    @nicholaslatina4464 6 лет назад +24

    I would love to see your thoughts on a fugue by Kapustin. A contrapuntal genius in his own way for sure.

  • @gracelee9437
    @gracelee9437 7 лет назад +18

    Lots of details, very slick presentation! Great work.

  • @technik-lexikon
    @technik-lexikon Год назад +1

    DSCHs op. 87 is a true secret tip! Most people know only his symphonies (or even just the 5th or 7th -.- ).
    I most like the raw contrasts between the 24 pieces (e.g. D-flat-major fugue vs A-major fugue) and the wide emotional range.
    Oh, and I just discovered that the prelude foreshadows the subject of the final d-minor prelude and fugue (in bars 7-9).

  • @ygoramaro5637
    @ygoramaro5637 6 лет назад +8

    Man, all your videos are simply awesome. Congratulations

  • @chrisridenhour
    @chrisridenhour 6 лет назад +2

    Wish I had these videos when I was in conservatory in the 90s. Better than any class I've had

  • @n7275
    @n7275 7 лет назад +5

    Simply amazing. Thank you.

  • @TOMMIVS
    @TOMMIVS 4 года назад +3

    The theme entries beginning with B-flat and E-flat would be "in the minor key", because there is a minor-third mediant in the third bar instead of a major-third one.

  • @blainesnow1476
    @blainesnow1476 2 года назад +2

    Yes, more Shostakovich please!

  • @CharlesAustin
    @CharlesAustin 3 года назад +1

    Phenomenal piece!! Thanks for your stunning mapping of this piece.!!

  • @andrearodigari4840
    @andrearodigari4840 2 года назад +1

    I always loved this prelude and fugue.
    And of course Shostakovich and My beloved Bach.

  • @trethtower
    @trethtower 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much for this great analysis of one of the most astonishingly original fugues ever written. Terrifying in its demonic energy and sarcastic wit. I always remember first hearing it played by S. Richter, and trying to make sense of the chaotic feeling it gives on first hearing. I appreciate you drawing our attention to the Bach organ fugue, which I was not familiar with. Its fascinating to see how that music that Shostakovich absorbed from a young age could germinate into the D-Flat Major Fugue years later.

  • @rudigerk
    @rudigerk 6 лет назад +13

    Paul Hindemith's Luxus Tonalis also has a lot of nice Fugues, Please make a Video with one of these

    • @rudigerk
      @rudigerk 6 лет назад +7

      Ludus tonalis

  • @mmarks4
    @mmarks4 6 лет назад +1

    Last night went to a performance of the 24 by A. Melnikov. Very pulled in by the music. Now eager for some education on them, which I am glad to see you providing!

  • @courtcomposer
    @courtcomposer 5 лет назад +2

    Bravo.. I wish I had you as a professor when in music school.

  • @klop4228
    @klop4228 7 лет назад +12

    I'm currently learning the A Major Prelude and Fugue from the same set. If I get ahold of a copy of this one, I may try and convince my teacher to let me learn this as well.

    • @BeauJames59
      @BeauJames59 6 лет назад +2

      Get ahold of it, DO IT! You don't need anyone's permission to learn music you love.

    • @klop4228
      @klop4228 6 лет назад +1

      Issue is that I'm currently working on a few things, and also if my teacher feels this one requires a higher standard than I'm at, then it's better to leave it until my standard reaches this.

    • @harryrees627
      @harryrees627 5 лет назад +1

      klop422 did you get to learn it?

  • @Harrytjuh66
    @Harrytjuh66 6 лет назад +5

    Great analysis! I would like to see a video about the fugue of Hindemith's 3rd piano sonata

  • @raufkasimov
    @raufkasimov 4 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for your lovely and deep analysis.If you don't mind I'm going to post this video on Facebook for my students to watch.🙏

  • @sophiagilmson7481
    @sophiagilmson7481 6 лет назад +1

    Wonderful, Richard! Thank you so much. Would love to share with you my analysis.

  • @vrixphillips
    @vrixphillips 7 лет назад +9

    have you thought about doing some of the Szymanowski Fugues from the ends of his piano sonatas?

  • @steve.schatz
    @steve.schatz 6 лет назад +1

    Wow. Ill listen to Shos with new ears now. Not familiar with these works. Tour de force. Thank you so much for our efforts, Richard.

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 6 лет назад

    I had no idea how much I like Shostakovich. Been listening to Hendimith fugues

  • @csermenyizsombor
    @csermenyizsombor 6 лет назад +14

    I don't even understand why he uses various time signatures as they don't have any audible effects on the music... :D

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  6 лет назад +9

      I've always thought time signatures were pointless in general. If you remove them, no information is really lost.

    • @rabbibarrykornblau9877
      @rabbibarrykornblau9877 6 лет назад +4

      Whoa, that's a pretty big overstatement for vast swaths of 18th and 19th C classical music. The 1 2 3 of many dance pieces or the 1 2 3 4 of the marches, etc, is the MAIN point is many ways!

    • @stiboh1
      @stiboh1 6 лет назад +1

      I wanted to ask the same thing :)

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  6 лет назад +6

      Yes, that's why there are barlines and bars on stems of notes. No real need for time signatures.

    • @yaboibobby7776
      @yaboibobby7776 5 лет назад +4

      Well there might be no audible effect from hearing it, if you're not listening out for it that is. There are some composers who use the time signature for many effects, including mathematical effects. But since that's mathematical, I guess it wouldn't make too much of a difference audibly, although I do strongly believe math and music are closely related.

  • @doc.g9497
    @doc.g9497 7 лет назад +2

    Hi Richard, great video as always. You present information in a very clear manner. If I could make a suggestion, I which you could make another Mahler video. I was watching your " the most beautiful passages in each Mahler´s symphonies" and i saw you focused mainly in the slower parts. Although I enjoyed the video, I wish you could talk more about the "bombastic" parts haha. One more thing, I sent you a private message about a month ago, I wonder if you saw it.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  6 лет назад

      I'm planning to make this video at some point! Also, 9 months later, I'm unsure whether I ever saw or responded to any private messages...

  • @ArianSadrayi
    @ArianSadrayi 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic job as always! ^_^

  • @Chnarles
    @Chnarles 6 лет назад +12

    Nice job on the analysis, but you missed a significant structural detail. The low G octave (the longest note in the piece) in the left hand of measure 255 is the note that missing from original subject.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  6 лет назад +9

      Can you explain this a little more? I'm not sure what you mean.

    • @Chnarles
      @Chnarles 6 лет назад +16

      Sure. It helps to think like a composer, especially at the time that Shostakovich was writing this. A lot has been said about the subject being "almost 12-tone". The first thing I did when looking at this piece was to figure out which note was missing from the row, as it were, and then see if Shostakovich was saving that particular note for anything significant. I scanned through the score looking for a big statement of G of some sort and there it was. To be sure, he doesn't literally avoid G until that moment, neither is this a 12-tone piece, per se. But perhaps you get the idea.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  6 лет назад +8

      That's an interesting thought, and I hadn't noticed it...

    • @Chnarles
      @Chnarles 6 лет назад +3

      Cool. I like what you are doing in your videos. Looking forward to watching more of them.
      I do an analysis with my composition students of Brandenburg 2 Mvt 1 that is similar to your fugue analyses, mainly to point out how many different levels Bach is thinking about. Maybe someday I will make a video of it but first I will have to learn Camtasia better. You're presentation style has upped the ante a bit.

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 6 лет назад +1

      That's more like a curiosity, not a structural detail.

  • @pseudotonal
    @pseudotonal 4 года назад +2

    I love how informative you are in your videos. I've been fascinated with polyphony, canon, and fugue since childhood. I would be honored if you would do some analyses of my works. Start with my Chorale Etudes. I would be greatly pleased if you were to find the "Easter eggs" in some of my pieces.

  • @martinvaillancourt5962
    @martinvaillancourt5962 6 лет назад +6

    Hey Richard, love your videos, and I think I finally found someone as obsessed with Mahler as I am! I'm wondering what you studied in university? It's cool if you don't want to share, I'm just curious

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  6 лет назад +4

      I started out as a physics major, then I switched to music composition major, then I went to medical school after undergrad.

  • @gwilymprice4442
    @gwilymprice4442 5 лет назад +1

    The original subject reminds me very much of the fifth piece from Stanchinsky's 12 Sketches, op. 1. The same composer's Five Preludes in the form of a Canon might be good material for a video as well.

  • @christophemarois5423
    @christophemarois5423 7 лет назад

    Incredible job, as always!

  • @torterrakart7249
    @torterrakart7249 7 лет назад +2

    Wow that was amazing!
    As I said in another video I would like you to analyze the 3rd mov of the 7° string quartet of Shostakovich which has a lot of counterpoint. I also would like to see in the channel something by Hindemith, who, in my opinion, is the greatest counterpoint master of the last century

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  7 лет назад +3

      I love the finale of the 7th quartet. It has an augmentation similar to the one in this fugue.

    • @hadenplouffe3976
      @hadenplouffe3976 7 лет назад +1

      No Godowsky?

  • @ishagshafeeg
    @ishagshafeeg 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome. Thank you.

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 7 лет назад +2

    very good video.

  • @louisvalencia5244
    @louisvalencia5244 6 лет назад +2

    Hi, i love your vids!! but i am too ignorant to understand the nature of fugue. I know the basics but im very bad at defining the different structures of the fugue. Can you recommend some books to initiate in conterpoint, pliss?

  • @Lopfff
    @Lopfff 4 года назад +3

    Music theory nerds, are you with me? YESSSS

  • @BenMader10309
    @BenMader10309 6 лет назад

    Your channel is great!

  • @_Chuvisco_
    @_Chuvisco_ 6 лет назад +1

    How I inveigh your musical capacities, sir!

  • @wobblyorbee279
    @wobblyorbee279 Год назад

    7:53 this reminded me the chopin butterfly etude

  • @Maharani1991
    @Maharani1991 6 лет назад

    Incredible. Thank you.

  • @boyisun
    @boyisun 5 лет назад +4

    One of my teacher said to me, Listen to Shostakovich's fugues; that's what would it sounds if Bach has lived to C20th.

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 6 лет назад +1

    Those cadences add humour

  • @diegokohn3132
    @diegokohn3132 4 года назад

    Thank you very much Richard for this richfull analytical and pedagogical video.
    I'm interested on analyse more this fugue. Do you know if it possible to find a PDF version of this Prelude and Fugue in D-Flat Major? I would be thankful for that.
    Thank you in advance.

    • @TOMMIVS
      @TOMMIVS 4 года назад

      There is a russian source on the web, although I'm not sure if I can find it any more.

  • @10mimu
    @10mimu 5 лет назад +1

    Very interesting. Could you analyze the fugue from Bachianas Brasileiras No.9 from Heitor Villa-Lobos?

  • @Mathi80
    @Mathi80 6 лет назад

    Haha, and so, silly (brutal) tonality shall prevail!! (a theme prevalent in several of Schostakovich's works) The connection to the e minor organ fugue is intriguing, of which Shostakovich's fugue is a kind of deconstruction.

  • @YostPeter
    @YostPeter 6 лет назад

    What a great video.

  • @lucasgust7720
    @lucasgust7720 4 года назад +4

    You chose a recording that has a wrong note in the bar 273

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  4 года назад +3

      I know... it annoyed me because that's an important part of the counterpoint (I even highlighted it) and it makes no sense how he played it. Still a fantastic performance though.

    • @lucasgust7720
      @lucasgust7720 4 года назад +1

      @@Richard.Atkinson Richter's recording is the best I have heard so far

  • @somebodys7404
    @somebodys7404 5 лет назад

    Excellent material. Why did you choose this piece rather than any other from the 24?

  • @brandonlingjennwenahs4127
    @brandonlingjennwenahs4127 2 года назад

    2:39 (start of fugue)
    5:03
    5:53
    6:29 (whole)

  • @michaelfitzurka5659
    @michaelfitzurka5659 6 лет назад

    first class as always.

  • @ArturoAlbero
    @ArturoAlbero 5 лет назад +1

    Intense!

  • @rickytsang6665
    @rickytsang6665 6 лет назад

    Awesome!!

  • @GMahlerVerehrer
    @GMahlerVerehrer 5 лет назад +2

    Isn't the Fugue's subject a twelve-tone row as per dodecaphonism?

  • @burakunsal7499
    @burakunsal7499 4 года назад +2

    wow you really need big hands to play through bars 256-260 starting at 6:07

    • @TOMMIVS
      @TOMMIVS 4 года назад +2

      It requires using the sustenuto pedal (the middle one of a grand piano) which sustains the bass notes but not other notes.

  • @reginaldocruz9958
    @reginaldocruz9958 5 лет назад

    About Film scoring, its possible?

  • @sirdelrio
    @sirdelrio 6 лет назад

    Wrong notes at 6:16. He played F, F flat, E flat, E double flat. It's F flat, E flat, F, E double flat.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  6 лет назад +2

      I noticed this when I made the video (because it was annoying to me as well - especially because it is a fragment of the subject, but when he messes it up, it's not heard as such). I chose to use it anyway because this is still my favorite performance of the fugue.

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 7 лет назад +1

    In a while you'll be analyzing some of my music.

  • @danal81
    @danal81 5 лет назад +1

    Great video.
    As for the composers.. Bach’s theme impresses in the way Shostakovich’s never will.. because it starts so detached from the Baroque epoch only to conclude in the tonal manner which is both amusing and impressive, while Shostakovich’s simply follows the idiom of the 20th century from the beginning to the end

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 5 лет назад

    Wow Shostakovich's Asymetry Racket

  • @lucasgust7720
    @lucasgust7720 4 года назад +3

    Why don't you explain the harmony of this fugue? I'm tired of the analysis of the OBVIOUS.

  • @jackwilliamsopenyourmouth
    @jackwilliamsopenyourmouth 6 лет назад +1

    Did anyone else notice how the score goes from bar 111 to bar 220 in 9 bars?

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  6 лет назад +1

      I stared at that score for hours while making this video and I didn't notice! Neither did the editor, so I don't feel so bad...

    • @jackwilliamsopenyourmouth
      @jackwilliamsopenyourmouth 6 лет назад

      @@Richard.Atkinson Haha, you were focusing on more sophisticated details!