Gday Rustinox, great idea using a rack, the gear turned out perfect, beautiful gifts you received and I bet there’s some great reading in the Deckel booklet, thanks for sharing mate, have a great weekend, cheers
Hi Michel ☺ you had some nice gifts this week from very kind viewers, I'm amazed at your enginuity whith the gear cutting setup, it worked great, and the proof of the pudding ,so to speak is in the resulting thread you cut, magic! . Thanks for another interesting video , stay safe my friend, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Thank you so much for your good humour & sharing your journey, you have filled hours of my time, where I have been unable for a long time to do home machining etc, I'm just now starting to get odd bits collected, for reasons I wont go into, Trained toolmaker during the 1970's but learning from you 👍
Everyone who has a shaper seems to be having SUCH a lot of fun. Interesting technique. Lovely jack-in-a-box .Now, of course, I want a shaper to play with!
Those are very nicely made jacks, it's always a special thing to get shop made tools from friends, ask me how I know, lol! As for the gear making rig with the rack, total genius, I loved this one!
Cool project! I'm 100% sure I would not have thought of this solution. Clever and nicely executed. Folks sent you some really thoughtful items! Fun video, made me chuckle!
Ingenious as always. I love to learn new ways of successfully conquering adversity. You are an inspiration to all your students. Thank you for the time and effort to teach all of us!
Hey Michel this is pretty clever for gear copy and the fact you can let the shaper traverse with auto feed is really speeding things up. I can see potential. Cheers
Hi Michel. Three extraordinarily generous and interesting gifts. 👏👏👍😮Andrew As for your gear cutting, shaper work, simply fantastic to watch and learn. Well done 👏👏👍😀Andrew
Beautiful machinist jack set and wooden box! What an amazing gift. 👍 With the gear, I would have sharpened the cutter to the correct profile then just down fed it into the gear blank... Ok, not as precise is tooth shape but I'm impatient. 😁
Very cool! All the attempts finally paid off - that gear looks like it was done by a professional! Which - after with all the experience you have gained - you definately are now :D
Well done Rusti, what a great bit of engineering that is, never seen that done before on a shaper, really well done, I can absolutely appreciate how much work has gone into that! Fantastic! Cheers, Jon
You're a genius. The last time I did this was years ago using a mill and a graduated (factory made) indexer. Even using a CNC mill with a 4th axis and the programming involved is difficult enough. Way cool video and Respect sent.
Champion Michel, very clever gear cutting setup on the shaper. BTW Good on you for having the guts to speak out on the evil that is going on in Ukraine. Best wishes from Australia. Paul
I was finally one of the first 100 to watch. I can die in peace now. But before that I want to say that this was a very ingenious system that you made to make those gears you’ve wanted for quite a while now. And thanks for the referral mon ami. Gilles 🤘🏻
Michel, that was enjoyable to watch, this has answered my email inquiries to you as well as learned even more about a shaper. An Armenian latheian, now that is not seen here.. Outstanding video, looks like you will be doing this again to make the 80T gear for the threading of the boring head taper tool. This is great content, thank you so much
Man, you are my newest favorite RUclips machinist. I have not gotten to watch many of your videos, but so far it looks like you have your own unique approach. I admire your mechanical intuition to achieve goals.
The brand of your shaper is Hembrug, right? Last week i have been visiting this company near Amsterdam. They exist since 1500 something. This days they produce ultra high precision lathes, based on solid granite. The machines work in the range of 1 or 2 micron!!! I was deeply impressed to see the manufacturing of these machines. So take care of your little shaper and keep on using it. Thanks for sharing the video.
Yes it was very impressive. I was there with two colleges from my company, because we want to buy such a machine (which is a bit over 500k !) The guy who showed us the capabilitys of the machines could have been your brother 😁. He was quite funny, but i think he knows every detail of this machines. By the way we were turning hss cobalt steel with a hardness of 67 HRC!!!! The roundness of the bore was 0,3 micron (0,0003 mm) !
I have a Atlas 7b and yes I have made some gears, I found that the large dieamater are the easys to cut, but the smaller ones are the hardis manly becouse I use the wire system which needs to be realy TIGHT, to stay away from the play and a counter wight does help. in this system all one needs to do is cut a blank and wire wheel set to the pitch circle and so they are the only two blanks one need to cut out, The diametral pitch will fall in line, "O" I forgot one needs a index wheel with more holes or twice the number or three times then needed this will let one use it on more then one size. Looks like the rack does elemalates much of the free play, I know my spelling does suck
Well done, Michel! 😀 Teally like your setup. Sort of reminds me of gear hobbing, only one tooth at a time 😁. I get flak from milling slots too, I find drilling or plunge milling out the majority helps a lot 😊. Cheers!
Hello Rusti. Well done, a very ingenious mechanism. I assume the form of the tool is straight sided, which is a very much simpler thing to achieve than an involute form. Yes, I'm still thinking about what you just did. Thanks for showing, I learnt a new technique today. Mart in England.
Something to consider when milling a pocket or a slot with an end mill is to use a drill press to drill series of holes along the length of the portion to be milled. Drilling is one of the fastest ways to remove material and drill are generally less expensive than end mills and much easier to sharpen. Drill first then finish with the end mill. Great job on the gear. I've been meaning to ask, where did you get that oil can with the brush attached?
Hi mi amigo thanks for the update video. I I’m interested in the gig you make for gear in the shaper awesome I will try to do one to if no matter your thanks again
Hi Michel, another great video as always. If i remember correctly, didnt you get a dividing head type fixture when you got your milling machine? Is this too big for the shaper? If not wouldnt this allow you to make all of the gears you require for alot of other threads too? Just a thought as i have no idea. Stay healthy and safe my friend👍😉
I don't understand why a gear can't just be cut with a tool that is ground to the shape of the space between the teeth. On a milling machine you can just use a cutter that's made for that size gear and then just cut it by feeding across at the proper depth. Can you or someone else give me a link to an answer to that?
Hand grinding the perfect shape of the form tool could be quite a challenge. The tool I use has 3 straight cutting edges, witch is easy to hand grind. And my small shaper is not rigid enough to take the cutting forces of a form tool at full depth. I hope this answers your questions a bit.
Thx for sharing Michel, success is all ways fulfilling (@@)! Gills machines jacks are too cool, and have to take a sub to his channel too :)>.. Nice fabrication of the rack !! Bear.
Gday Rustinox, great idea using a rack, the gear turned out perfect, beautiful gifts you received and I bet there’s some great reading in the Deckel booklet, thanks for sharing mate, have a great weekend, cheers
Thanks Matty. Now it's your turn to make gears on the shaper :)
@@Rustinox one day but not today mate
That gear tooth generation was a joy to behold Michel. Well done for following up after the first setbacks.
Experimenting is fun. And if it works, it's even more fun.
Superb! Best 21 minutes of the day 👍 🇬🇧
Thanks.
Hi Michel ☺ you had some nice gifts this week from very kind viewers, I'm amazed at your enginuity whith the gear cutting setup, it worked great, and the proof of the pudding ,so to speak is in the resulting thread you cut, magic! . Thanks for another interesting video , stay safe my friend, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Thanks Stuart. Make tools to make tools to upgrade your tools :)
Thank you so much for your good humour & sharing your journey, you have filled hours of my time, where I have been unable for a long time to do home machining etc, I'm just now starting to get odd bits collected, for reasons I wont go into, Trained toolmaker during the 1970's but learning from you 👍
Nice. Go for it.
Brilliant idea making and using the rack, it works great. Awesome gifts Rustinox, that chainsaw was pure class lol. Tony
Thanks Tony. Now it's your turn.
Everyone who has a shaper seems to be having SUCH a lot of fun. Interesting technique. Lovely jack-in-a-box .Now, of course, I want a shaper to play with!
Shapers really are fun. I hope you'll find one.
That's an awesome way to make a gear on a shaper. I'm learning my machine and how to grind the tools.....
Nice, I'm sure you have a good time doing it.
Those are very nicely made jacks, it's always a special thing to get shop made tools from friends, ask me how I know, lol! As for the gear making rig with the rack, total genius, I loved this one!
Thanks. This is my best homemade gear so far.
Cool project! I'm 100% sure I would not have thought of this solution. Clever and nicely executed. Folks sent you some really thoughtful items!
Fun video, made me chuckle!
Thanks. That's what RUclips is for :)
Blown away with that that’s absolutely brilliant it’s like logic in motion once you see it 👍🏻
It's a lot of preparation and setup work. But it works and it's fun to do :)
Brilliant Michel👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏
I wonder if my little Adept Shaper is up to that, one day when i've nothing to do i will try
thanks for sharing
Cheers
Kev
Go for it Kev. It's a fun challenge.
Brilliant fixture! You could 3-D print any gear you want to use as the template in making the steel gear. I love it! Well done, Michel!
But I don't have a 3D printer... :)
@@Rustinox You didn't have a milling machine not too long ago. Things can change. :)
And a 3D printed gear will get you by in a change gear setup.
Excellent and beautiful channel gifts.
Very clever innovation Rustinox, another feather in your cap.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. And it works!
Hello Michel,
Some very nice gifts... I am very impressed with the new gear cutting capability... have a good weekend...
Take care.
Paul,,
Thanks Paul. It's fun to do.
Brilliant, bizarrely.
Bizar, but it works.
Ingenious as always. I love to learn new ways of successfully conquering adversity. You are an inspiration to all your students. Thank you for the time and effort to teach all of us!
Don't stop experimenting. There is always someting to learn from.
Yes the wire thickness I learnd that the hard way
Good. You seem to know what you're talking about.
I wouldn't have thought you could cut an involute gear with a simple angled cutter, much less on a shaper. Very interesting method indeed!
It's a too big cut for my little shaper to use a form tool.
That gearmaking is one more reason to get a shaper.... someday... somehow.....
Nice done!
Stay healthy!
You will... one day... I'm sure.
Well that worked out real well. Good job Rusti. Your years of experience are showing.👍
Thanks Jim. Just a bit of imagination :)
G'day Rusti. The rack was a great idea from someone and your implementation proved it works, well done. Cheers Peter
Thanks Peter.
Hey Michel this is pretty clever for gear copy and the fact you can let the shaper traverse with auto feed is really speeding things up. I can see potential. Cheers
Give it a go Paul. It's a lot of fun.
Hi Michel. Three extraordinarily generous and interesting gifts. 👏👏👍😮Andrew
As for your gear cutting, shaper work, simply fantastic to watch and learn. Well done 👏👏👍😀Andrew
Thank you very much Andrew.
Bravo Michelle well done
Thanks Kimber.
Congratulations for the gifts 🎁 and the good job thanks
Thank you.
What a lovely copy rig, well done Rusti.
Thanks.
Great success. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Harold.
As ever you show what can be done with the shaper, excellent video with your subtle humour thrown in for good measure 🤣
Thanks CM.
Beautiful machinist jack set and wooden box! What an amazing gift. 👍
With the gear, I would have sharpened the cutter to the correct profile then just down fed it into the gear blank... Ok, not as precise is tooth shape but I'm impatient. 😁
My little shaper can't handle the cutting forces with a form tool. Otherwise I would have done it too :-)
Very cool! All the attempts finally paid off - that gear looks like it was done by a professional!
Which - after with all the experience you have gained - you definately are now :D
Almost... :-)
Brilliant piece of work you have done there Rusti. Very impressive .
Steve.
Thanks Steve.
Nice job Michel great outcome.
Thanks David.
Well done Rusti, what a great bit of engineering that is, never seen that done before on a shaper, really well done, I can absolutely appreciate how much work has gone into that! Fantastic! Cheers, Jon
Thanks Jon. Lots of work indeed, but with a big smile on my face.
You're a genius. The last time I did this was years ago using a mill and a graduated (factory made) indexer. Even using a CNC mill with a 4th axis and the programming involved is difficult enough. Way cool video and Respect sent.
Thanks QM. I'm not a genius. I just make things :)
@@Rustinox I can see why you are an important member of a ships crew and I hope you make another video of your ship.
Glad the booklet made it. Hopefully it has some tid bits on your machine you didn't know about. Gear came out nice.
A complete machine like this was sold $2,385 in 1938 is worth $47,990.26 today. That's expensive :-)
@@Rustinox Wow!
Thanks for sharing! Great fix great video!
Thanks.
Bravo! The process is a success.
It finally works!
Very good job, Michel.
Thanks Music Man.
Champion Michel, very clever gear cutting setup on the shaper. BTW Good on you for having the guts to speak out on the evil that is going on in Ukraine. Best wishes from Australia. Paul
Thanks Paul. It will not stop the war, but now everybody knows I don't want it.
Fantastic! You are amazing. I learn so much from your videos. Thank you.
Thanks Mick.
Thanks for sharing!!
My pleasure.
You SIR
Are a Shaper MASTER
Good Job Good Job
Thanks Poppop.
Great video rusty,keep'um coming..
That's the plan.
I can’t believe you find the time to reply to every comment, that’s just unheard of. Great videos too by the way!
Liked how you have persisted and have made a real gear on the shaper. Loved seeing your success! Bravo!
If you don't try, It will never work.
I was finally one of the first 100 to watch. I can die in peace now. But before that I want to say that this was a very ingenious system that you made to make those gears you’ve wanted for quite a while now. And thanks for the referral mon ami. Gilles 🤘🏻
My pleasure Gilles. And thanks again.
What a wonderful video. Thank you
Thanks James.
Michel, that was enjoyable to watch, this has answered my email inquiries to you as well as learned even more about a shaper. An Armenian latheian, now that is not seen here.. Outstanding video, looks like you will be doing this again to make the 80T gear for the threading of the boring head taper tool. This is great content, thank you so much
Glad it was useful. Thanks.
Man, you are my newest favorite RUclips machinist. I have not gotten to watch many of your videos, but so far it looks like you have your own unique approach. I admire your mechanical intuition to achieve goals.
Wow! Thank you very much.
The proof is in the pudding -- Well done !
Thanks KS
Always nice to see your considerable ingenuity at work, Rusti. Thank you!
Thanks Dudley.
Looks like you nailed it good this time 👍
I think so too.
The brand of your shaper is Hembrug, right? Last week i have been visiting this company near Amsterdam. They exist since 1500 something. This days they produce ultra high precision lathes, based on solid granite. The machines work in the range of 1 or 2 micron!!! I was deeply impressed to see the manufacturing of these machines. So take care of your little shaper and keep on using it. Thanks for sharing the video.
Indeed, Hembrug. Build somewhere in the sixties.
That must have been a very interesting visit.
Yes it was very impressive. I was there with two colleges from my company, because we want to buy such a machine (which is a bit over 500k !) The guy who showed us the capabilitys of the machines could have been your brother 😁. He was quite funny, but i think he knows every detail of this machines. By the way we were turning hss cobalt steel with a hardness of 67 HRC!!!! The roundness of the bore was 0,3 micron (0,0003 mm) !
@@tk4244 You might like Dan Gelbart's home-made lathe... ruclips.net/video/sFrVdoOhu1Q/видео.html
Excellent
Thanks Terry.
Rusti great job it looked like a good fit . Also you got some good gifts what else could a guy want.
Thanks for the videos . JM
Thanks JM. I have more than I need to be happy :)
Great video as always Michel..
Thanks David.
I have a Atlas 7b and yes I have made some gears, I found that the large dieamater are the easys to cut, but the smaller ones are the hardis manly becouse I use the wire system which needs to be realy TIGHT, to stay away from the play and a counter wight does help. in this system all one needs to do is cut a blank and wire wheel set to the pitch circle and so they are the only two blanks one need to cut out, The diametral pitch will fall in line, "O" I forgot one needs a index wheel with more holes or twice the number or three times then needed this will let one use it on more then one size. Looks like the rack does elemalates much of the free play, I know my spelling does suck
Never mind spelling Steve. If you use the wire wheel, don't forget to subtract the thickness of the wire diameter from the pitch diameter.
That is an awesome setup...as always great job
Thanks Craig.
Rusty, what a great vid. I don't have a shaper but a machine. Luv your vids.
Maybe one day you'll have a shaper.
What a great job! Loved seeing you figure this out.
Just do it :)
Great setup Michel, I have never come across that method before. Enjoyed very much, cheers and have a nice weekend!
Well, me neither :)
👍👍👍 Thanks for the video.
My pleasure.
Really good progress. The evolution has been very entertaining to watch.
All the best
Dan
Thanks Dan.
Great job Michel! The gear came out awesome!
And it works!
Well done, Michel! 😀 Teally like your setup. Sort of reminds me of gear hobbing, only one tooth at a time 😁.
I get flak from milling slots too, I find drilling or plunge milling out the majority helps a lot 😊.
Cheers!
Thanks Chris.
what a nice setup!
Genius Michel !
It's just a gear. You can also buy gears, but it's less fun :)
Hello Rusti. Well done, a very ingenious mechanism. I assume the form of the tool is straight sided, which is a very much simpler thing to achieve than an involute form. Yes, I'm still thinking about what you just did. Thanks for showing, I learnt a new technique today. Mart in England.
Thanks Mart. The tool is indeed straight, and both sides have the same angle as the pressure angle. (20°)
very good video rustinox
Thanks Tr.
Something to consider when milling a pocket or a slot with an end mill is to use a drill press to drill series of holes along the length of the portion to be milled. Drilling is one of the fastest ways to remove material and drill are generally less expensive than end mills and much easier to sharpen. Drill first then finish with the end mill. Great job on the gear. I've been meaning to ask, where did you get that oil can with the brush attached?
You can find them on line. Search for glue pot with brush for leather works.
Muito bom amigo. I love shapper machine.
Shapers are cool.
Hi mi amigo thanks for the update video. I I’m interested in the gig you make for gear in the shaper awesome I will try to do one to if no matter your thanks again
Go for it. It's fun to do. On my channel there are several gear experimenting videos. Maybe you'll find all information you need in these.
Nice job as usual
Thanks Patrick.
Hi Michel, another great video as always. If i remember correctly, didnt you get a dividing head type fixture when you got your milling machine? Is this too big for the shaper? If not wouldnt this allow you to make all of the gears you require for alot of other threads too? Just a thought as i have no idea. Stay healthy and safe my friend👍😉
Thanks Mark.
Indeed, I have a dividing head. But it's way too big for the shaper.
A triple thumbs up.
Thanks. With only one, I'll be more than happy :)
I don't understand why a gear can't just be cut with a tool that is ground to the shape of the space between the teeth. On a milling machine you can just use a cutter that's made for that size gear and then just cut it by feeding across at the proper depth. Can you or someone else give me a link to an answer to that?
Hand grinding the perfect shape of the form tool could be quite a challenge.
The tool I use has 3 straight cutting edges, witch is easy to hand grind.
And my small shaper is not rigid enough to take the cutting forces of a form tool at full depth. I hope this answers your questions a bit.
@@Rustinox Yes,and thanks for getting back to me so fast.
Can I send you a box of gears that I need copied?....that's a joke....Well done. Great work (again)
That's gonna be expensive on shipping :)
It is said you can make anything on a shaper except a profit!!
This is indeed a statement made by people who doesn't know how to run a shaper.
Thx for sharing Michel, success is all ways fulfilling (@@)! Gills machines jacks are too cool, and have to take a sub to his channel too :)>.. Nice fabrication of the rack !! Bear.
Thanks Bear. This was indeed very satisfying.