Cenk Doesn't Hold Back

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @handsuporillshoot381
    @handsuporillshoot381 3 дня назад +25

    Cenk's rants are always entertaining. 🤣
    Left wing Alex Jones. Lol

    • @Kingwboxing
      @Kingwboxing 3 дня назад

      😂😂

    • @oklol7799
      @oklol7799 3 дня назад +3

      Except Cenk is usually pretty factual whereas Alex Jones has no idea what planet he’s on

  • @MC-ep8cu
    @MC-ep8cu 3 дня назад +22

    Im a big Cenk fan tbh. He is getting better as time goes on.

    • @ajl1973
      @ajl1973 3 дня назад

      The TRUTH matters, that's why.

    • @babyamyxo-o6c
      @babyamyxo-o6c 3 дня назад

      You're a dumdum, but I like Cenk's current message, too. He's more balanced and educative than he used to be. 😇But I don't trust him to stay this way for long. 😶

    • @cyberdemon6517
      @cyberdemon6517 3 дня назад

      he is turkish
      truly the young turk of all time

  • @bellaz4615
    @bellaz4615 3 дня назад +8

    I'm a conservative & I want Teeshirt of a tall glass of shut up juice😂 Also I'm liking Cenk more & more & Anna too💕

  • @RockNRod.
    @RockNRod. 3 дня назад +8

    We need more Cenks.

  • @wvXvxvXvw
    @wvXvxvXvw 3 дня назад +23

    I don't feel like TYT is on the left anymore. I think it's in the middle and tells the truth about both sides. I really like where it's going.

    • @joshoconner7448
      @joshoconner7448 3 дня назад

      Hahah ye there arc from 10 yrs ago til now is crazy been good to watch

    • @dustinsindledecker154
      @dustinsindledecker154 3 дня назад

      @@wvXvxvXvw tyt has become a pro Trump network.

    • @AGuy-x3d
      @AGuy-x3d 3 дня назад +7

      I've been watching TYT for 15 years and they've been trashing both sides the entire time. Don't know what you're talking about

    • @kevinmokumobi9684
      @kevinmokumobi9684 3 дня назад +1

      @@AGuy-x3dthis

    • @LinkRocks
      @LinkRocks 3 дня назад +1

      They're on the left, they just don't cater to the online left because the online left is crazy.

  • @B.Alance1st
    @B.Alance1st 3 дня назад +6

    When Cenk talks instead of shouting, he often makes a lot of sense. Then again, we all have our temper, louder or softer.. hard to disagree with the logic

  • @marvsmusings
    @marvsmusings 3 дня назад +8

    Lichtman is a perfect example of an ivory tower elite being out of touch with reality and the historical moment.

    • @benwilson7120
      @benwilson7120 3 дня назад

      As opposed to a billionaire who brags about gaming the system for political favors and has joked about firing striking workers? This guy is the champion of the middle class? Trump?

  • @JohnSmith-il7jn
    @JohnSmith-il7jn 3 дня назад +8

    Does Cenk plays this bit on a continuous loop at his house to impress his kids and wife? lol

    • @publicspeaking9502
      @publicspeaking9502 3 дня назад +1

      You can say that again...Cenk is a lilliputian whose ego is oversized😅

    • @StarTexaspets
      @StarTexaspets 2 дня назад +2

      Rich and happy family. Jealous?

  • @juliusmagembe7040
    @juliusmagembe7040 3 дня назад +5

    How is it a cheap shot to say that he was wrong?
    He was wrong. That’s factual.
    That professor is out of his mind.

  • @JuleRousee
    @JuleRousee 3 дня назад +5

    Why is TYT suddenly covering the news like it's a UFC match?

  • @TimeSkip-AI
    @TimeSkip-AI 3 дня назад +4

    ⏱️ Timestamps by TimeSkip ⏱️
    00:00:00 - Introduction & Personal Attacks
    00:01:29 - Jen's Fiery Exchange with Alan Lickman
    00:04:39 - Critique of Democratic Leadership
    00:14:50 - Discussion on Pentagon Waste
    00:17:35 - Elon Musk Responds to Suggestions
    00:18:24 - Proposals for Pentagon Reform
    00:20:02 - Elon Musk's Influence on Politics
    00:20:53 - Conflict of Interest in Military Leadership
    00:23:15 - The Left's Response to Right-Wing Populism
    00:28:37 - Lessons from the Democratic Party's Losses
    00:33:30 - California's Shift to Trump: An Analysis
    00:36:40 - Progressive Caucus and Lessons Learned
    00:39:45 - Changing Culture in the Democratic Party
    00:40:42 - Ruffling Feathers for Change
    00:41:32 - Anti-Corruption Efforts Explained
    00:42:14 - Transparency in Appointee Hearings

  • @SpookyFoxyMulder
    @SpookyFoxyMulder 3 дня назад +7

    We love you, Cenk! Your ideas are amazing and would be so transformative!

    • @sairamsriram
      @sairamsriram 3 дня назад +1

      Speak for yourself.

    • @froggy9068
      @froggy9068 3 дня назад

      @@SpookyFoxyMulder not all of us

  • @williamingramm2293
    @williamingramm2293 3 дня назад +3

    Not that my public record means anything to anyone but from the beginning I was criticizing his keys for all of the reasons Cenk mentioned. It was always folly to apply analysis of the past to the modern period without addressing things like the influence of social media

  • @Lochias333
    @Lochias333 3 дня назад +1

    Ana, lots of people out here are proud of you! The world isn't ideology, as you're becoming aware of. Keep searching for truth! Conservative, liberal or otherwise, taking off the blinders of ideology is the first step to a life of peace.
    We're rooting for you!

  • @stealthhumor
    @stealthhumor 3 дня назад +3

    The missing money reached $2.3T on September 10, 2001, when Don Rumsfeld announced the annual unaccountable expenses. If that's the black budget, the two trillion deficit is an annual thing that can never be fixed.

    • @jaya1000
      @jaya1000 3 дня назад

      Republicans ruin it, democrats rebuild it, people like cenk just b*tch b*tch b*tch

  • @Piromysl359
    @Piromysl359 3 дня назад +3

    This guy's wilful inability to take an L needs to be documented and studied.

  • @Pearlio
    @Pearlio 3 дня назад +2

    Cenk is so based. Alan didn’t know what he was walking into. You’re not in academia anymore professor!

  • @colinzhu9631
    @colinzhu9631 3 дня назад +5

    I feel bad for professor especially the moment you took out the key chains 😂 You were a little bit harsh to him but he damaged his reputation so bad with the word "Blaspheme". And, his "51 years and 13 or 30 books ... " something immediately turned him into a clown 😄

    • @MWhaleK
      @MWhaleK 2 дня назад +1

      Don't feel bad, Lichtman was dead set on his keys being a magical formula that he basically said that Biden could be in a coma and win because he was an incumbent presiding over a great economy.

    • @BillyChu123
      @BillyChu123 2 дня назад

      All Lichtman has to say is my 13 keys went well as your presidential bid...........

  • @14534
    @14534 3 дня назад +1

    Ana, as someone on the right - I may not always agree with you, but you rock! Keep speaking truth to the out-of-control left, you have more backers than you realize 💪

    • @r3drift
      @r3drift 3 дня назад +1

      Im on the left and Agree the left has gone looney. Identity politics galore we care about the populist stuff not the competition to out woke the most wokeys. These guys are too much even for me and I’m a Bernie bro

  • @Sloimer
    @Sloimer 3 дня назад +6

    Allen’s keys were wrong and now there’s hell toupee.

  • @sharper68
    @sharper68 3 дня назад +3

    Blaspheme? Come on now!

  • @scottp.1884
    @scottp.1884 3 дня назад +4

    Cenk is absolutely correct. Allan thinks he's a wizard

  • @sabrinalennox2004
    @sabrinalennox2004 3 дня назад +3

    I love the idea of cenk at the Pentagon. Working together would be good for the whole country

  • @cmm867
    @cmm867 3 дня назад +2

    Prof Alan did say he got it wrong. That’s not a fair statement

  • @constace2012
    @constace2012 3 дня назад +1

    I think the Relevant point is that the Democrat establishment believes that contradicting the Narrative is “blasphemy!”

  • @natepolsky4398
    @natepolsky4398 3 дня назад +2

    Alan Lichtman DID predict Donald Trump would beat Hillary Clinton in '16...

  • @deadduck8307
    @deadduck8307 3 дня назад +2

    In all the commentary on his keys, including his own, I've never once heard anyone say what the real problem with them is: they form a deterministic process. The input into the process consisted of mostly subjective opinion. If you put a subjective input into a deterministic process, the output is subjective, i.e. it's worth no more than an opinion. This, I think, is where he went wrong. He probably back-tested it without much bias, saw that it worked historically, but forgot that a back-test is not the same as a forward test. It's an easy mistake to make.

  • @ByBible1
    @ByBible1 3 дня назад +2

    You all are milking this for so much???

  • @santim2341
    @santim2341 3 дня назад +1

    A lot of businesses are closed in LA, Hollywood, even Beverly hills like never before after COVID. That's what made it tough on Democrats 😮

  • @NPC123UH
    @NPC123UH 3 дня назад +4

    imagine is cent actually joins the trump administration, that would be so glorious and hilarious

  • @mosquitoinyourears9973
    @mosquitoinyourears9973 3 дня назад +2

    They screwed Bernie in 2015. Now look what happened. Twice.

  • @NewYorkJay1982
    @NewYorkJay1982 3 дня назад +5

    dont be blasphemus against KEYSUS CHRIST!!!

  • @babettegrunow7195
    @babettegrunow7195 3 дня назад +2

    Those using the prof might not realize the prof might be getting too old and might have some of the same problems as Biden so won't admit there was something wrong with Biden.

  • @weispresidentnow
    @weispresidentnow 3 дня назад +9

    Cenk isnt always right, but he's usually pretty good about calling out other people's bs

    • @terrnoisrp8894
      @terrnoisrp8894 3 дня назад +2

      Yeah he did a good job here

    • @redmanr5522
      @redmanr5522 3 дня назад

      and this is why a lot of people dislike him, especially those on the right,

    • @terrnoisrp8894
      @terrnoisrp8894 3 дня назад

      @@redmanr5522 as someone who right leaning, know a lot of guys who respect cenk and just think he has TDS issues. He has haters on the right and left.

  • @lordflyerofdragonsruston5097
    @lordflyerofdragonsruston5097 3 дня назад +1

    I love him for his honesty and credibility

  • @ScanCruiser
    @ScanCruiser 3 дня назад +1

    I agree with Ana more than Cenk almost every time but I enjoyed this 😂😂😂

  • @alexparker4369
    @alexparker4369 3 дня назад +1

    You're great Cenk, just keep on going like that, cok tesekkür ederim Cenk 🙂

  • @vladtheimpaler9577
    @vladtheimpaler9577 3 дня назад +3

    That's already 3 videos in a row on this one Piers Morgan video. Don't you think that's enough gloating Cenk?

    • @jorgeillueca5260
      @jorgeillueca5260 3 дня назад

      Expect 5 to 6 more videos until TYT squeezes the last ounce out of life out of it.

  • @B.Alance1st
    @B.Alance1st 3 дня назад +2

    True Cenk could have been a little easier on the professor with the keys...nobody is perfect..I wish his insight would not be blurred by bulldozer communication..but that's not gonna happen

  • @Lawofficeofgwdennis
    @Lawofficeofgwdennis 2 дня назад +3

    Cenk and Piers, batman and the joker.

  • @AGuy-x3d
    @AGuy-x3d 3 дня назад +1

    The blasphemy thing was genius

  • @wka973
    @wka973 3 дня назад +2

    The keys were right but Alan’s assessment was wrong. The economy and the public’s view of the economy are two different things. Foreign Policy and execution of said policies were unfortunately VERY different. I think next time Alan should offer the keys for the public to decide, then make a prediction.

    • @brianboyle2681
      @brianboyle2681 3 дня назад

      And misinterpreting the public's impression vs the reality of the health of the economy has tripped up many other parties in elections across the western world.

  • @9and7
    @9and7 3 дня назад +2

    The guy blames the people for his error...

  • @DustyNickelz
    @DustyNickelz 3 дня назад +1

    Like Fauci, “questioning me is questioning science”

  • @thomanderson7981
    @thomanderson7981 3 дня назад +1

    Cenk's been on Pier's show too much. He's starting to chase clicks like Piers. Being melodramatic will always make for big ratings😂🎉❤

  • @plantbasedanalyst6263
    @plantbasedanalyst6263 3 дня назад +3

    The reality is that Cenk comes off like a ranting lunatic who can't make his point without getting super angry and aggressive. You're making progressives look bad there, big guy. Moreover,, you make plenty of wrong and inaccurate predictions yourself.

    • @judeavision8807
      @judeavision8807 3 дня назад +1

      I think allan came off as the ranting lunatic. Blasphemy? Are you serious?

    • @TJSaw
      @TJSaw 3 дня назад +1

      Looks like you worship Jesus Litchman.

    • @damlitproductions8126
      @damlitproductions8126 3 дня назад +1

      😁 As long as "Cenk" ain't taking/Ranting about
      "UAP/UFO" Aliens 👽
      We're Good 👍🏼

    • @htth8633
      @htth8633 3 дня назад

      This

    • @ArranVid
      @ArranVid 23 часа назад

      @@damlitproductions8126 What? You think Earth is the only planet in the ENTIRE universe with life??? Lmao.

  • @babyamyxo-o6c
    @babyamyxo-o6c 3 дня назад +3

    LMAO, did he just say “blasphemy”? 😭🤣

  • @professionalgrade5999
    @professionalgrade5999 3 дня назад

    👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 good job I was all for it watching the show

  • @charleswomack2166
    @charleswomack2166 3 дня назад

    This clip never gets old!

  • @ftgvn
    @ftgvn 3 дня назад +3

    So the guy gets one wrong and all of a sudden Cenk gets to be a dick to him?
    Cenk didn't get it right either did he predict Trump?

    • @DustyNickelz
      @DustyNickelz 3 дня назад

      Cenk was right.

    • @ftgvn
      @ftgvn 3 дня назад +1

      @DustyNickelz how was he right

  • @joshuawilliams6153
    @joshuawilliams6153 3 дня назад +3

    10/11 is a great record, didn't he predict Trump last time? I am not saying the keys work but predicting 10 elections in a row is amazing. Imgine if you bet on the poly market with Alan? You would have won money 10/11.

    • @natg9441
      @natg9441 3 дня назад +1

      it's 9/11 and first of all you could flip a coin and get heads 9 times in a row, it doesn't prove anything other than luck. If the sample size was 100 and he got 90 right that would be a different story. He is an old man that failed to adapt to the changing world around him, which is why he got it so wrong

    • @UniqueBreakfastTaco
      @UniqueBreakfastTaco 3 дня назад

      he failed to remove his personal bias from his analysis. showing just how clueless the academic bourgeois is about the American populace.

    • @Asphodellife
      @Asphodellife 3 дня назад

      @@natg9441 Exactly

  • @davidanderson-22
    @davidanderson-22 3 дня назад +1

    "I don't need you to tell me how stupid I am" needs to be a TYT shirt.

  • @patrickpowell601
    @patrickpowell601 3 дня назад +1

    TYT Thank You, for defending the electorate aka AMERICANS!!

  • @babyamyxo-o6c
    @babyamyxo-o6c 3 дня назад +1

    Ana is writing a book. Confirmed.

  • @steveo288
    @steveo288 3 дня назад +1

    This title here is THE reason he is on Piers show so often. He rarely agrees with the opposition and has no issues raising his voice in anger to show it. IMO, he needs more acting lessons. I find him comical.

  • @singlezergling
    @singlezergling 3 дня назад +1

    Cenk was absolutely unhinged and hilarious in the first segment of this video. It really makes me laugh when he gets on his animated rants about groupthink and how they just NEED to promote their chosen candidate. I'm a right of center independent voter and I think this show is great to see the other side.

  • @erynpimentel915
    @erynpimentel915 3 дня назад +1

    What is this video? Why is it random segments edited together? Weird

  • @lam6572
    @lam6572 3 дня назад +2

    How about Ro Khanna for president?

  • @diegohernandez5416
    @diegohernandez5416 3 дня назад +1

    His keys didn't work..cause they changed the locks on him..😂

  • @myspace1876
    @myspace1876 3 дня назад

    As a trader and a gambler, im amazed by lictman. He is a Genius! Even with 2 misses he still has over 80 percent success. Imagine the money he could have won in betting!

  • @bricksbyficks6448
    @bricksbyficks6448 3 дня назад +1

    Hell Yeah Cenk! Allen is so ignorant. Shut Up Juice is well said and you CRUSHED him!

  • @caftdynner9377
    @caftdynner9377 3 дня назад +2

    I am SO happy that Congressman Ro Khanna said the old guard is defeated, now the Democrats' can undergo change like the Republicans did when they abandoned Bush/Cheney for the Orange Man. I really hope you can get an actual progressive in that helps and welcomes everyone!

    • @simplechronology2605
      @simplechronology2605 3 дня назад

      If you do, then you'll lose again. Democrats are delusional if they think a majority of Americans will willingly vote for a progressive agenda.

    • @babyamyxo-o6c
      @babyamyxo-o6c 3 дня назад

      That would require progressives themselves to drop identity politics that they've fallen for. Honestly, progressive media is just as much guilty of it as establishment liberals.

  • @Timpon_Dorz
    @Timpon_Dorz 3 дня назад +1

    I actually agree with you on the lifetime ban of working for defense contractors.
    It's rare Cenk... I don't usually agree with you.
    I even called you by your name instead of Chunky.

  • @marvsmusings
    @marvsmusings 3 дня назад +2

    “How many books have you published?”… What an arrogant self-own… He made a personal attack that isn’t even accurate… 😂

  • @johndurrer7869
    @johndurrer7869 3 дня назад +3

    Keysus Christ wasnt gonna take it anymore…

  • @MekonenMeteor123
    @MekonenMeteor123 3 дня назад

    Anna nailed it on this segment😂

  • @ArranVid
    @ArranVid 23 часа назад +1

    Ana has a smartwatch...smartwatches are lame imo.

  • @marvsmusings
    @marvsmusings 3 дня назад

    Ro Khanna is the type of leader we need more of in this country.

  • @ElizabethSLazaro
    @ElizabethSLazaro 3 дня назад

    Since college, I’ve been told that analysis must be qualitative and quantitative to be valid. If he could merge his findings with polling data, he definitely would get a different result.

    • @williamingramm2293
      @williamingramm2293 3 дня назад

      I have a degree in research methodologies and I've never been told that. Quantitative is always king but qualitative has it usefulness in providng insight and color to those findings.
      And there is nothing qualitative about Lichtman's keys.

  • @Lawofficeofgwdennis
    @Lawofficeofgwdennis 2 дня назад

    He has a point.

  • @stony5243
    @stony5243 3 дня назад +1

    OF COOOURSE

  • @ErnestoXavier-wp1vy
    @ErnestoXavier-wp1vy 3 дня назад +1

    What's the point in having this conversation, it's not the first time the Democrats lose. ⚔️

    • @rolback5055
      @rolback5055 3 дня назад

      Crybaby democrats always get a participation trophy. But not this time.

    • @ErnestoXavier-wp1vy
      @ErnestoXavier-wp1vy 3 дня назад

      @rolback5055 dude first of all I'm not a Democrat I'm a progressive, and you better be prepared to back up your shit ⚔️

  • @ELPRES1DENTE45
    @ELPRES1DENTE45 3 дня назад +2

    Wow. Shades of the old TYT.
    ABOUT DAMN TIME.

  • @et2507
    @et2507 3 дня назад

    Weird is still weird. Shock and/or anxiety period would pass. Business would take care of the keys and/or models. No big deal. TO ERR IS HUMAN.

  • @Russellviews
    @Russellviews 3 дня назад +1

    Dems are WAY out of touch.
    Maybe they should let the Dem voters pick a candidate.
    Dem voters did not pick Hillary, Biden or Kamala.
    The Dems wanted Bernie. The DNC said NOPE.
    Repubs wanted Trump, the RNC and RINO's said nope, Repub voters said TOO BAD.

    • @nchevrea
      @nchevrea 2 дня назад +1

      Yes, Bernie was the choice of the people, but the establishment democrats only allow an establishment candidate. Surprised people keep voting for them.

  • @covenantfather
    @covenantfather 3 дня назад

    Like any statical model Lichtman's keys need to be updated to minimize anomalies. Cenk is practicing Monday morning quarterbacking in front of the team that won the game while they are laughing.

  • @kdoss4725
    @kdoss4725 3 дня назад +1

    Sisson was giggling like a school girl

  • @mistyninjax
    @mistyninjax 3 дня назад

    Nah, I don't buy it. Something seems off...nobody is talking about regulating the pentagon, they want to clear it out completely.

  • @nizmotube
    @nizmotube 3 дня назад +1

    I think he forgot the dementia key

  • @MediaLieDetector
    @MediaLieDetector 3 дня назад

    Allan the Ginger Gew Geesus is actually Bill Nye and Pee Wee Herman combined.

  • @maniac50ae14
    @maniac50ae14 3 дня назад +1

    But he did admit he was wrong

  • @MysterySolver722-w9j
    @MysterySolver722-w9j 3 дня назад +2

    Ana should leave tyt and go to Naked News instead

    • @hardy2175
      @hardy2175 3 дня назад

      Why?

    • @ArranVid
      @ArranVid 23 часа назад

      Leave Ana alone, she is far too respectable to be naked on television. She has been with TYT for a long time you pig!

  • @benfry3665
    @benfry3665 3 дня назад +1

    Great news your so successful, just one thing why do you keep begging for money? Donations to raise a hundred thousand.

  • @blacksawjohnnyhex310
    @blacksawjohnnyhex310 3 дня назад +1

    I don’t feel bad for that professor like wut? 😂

  • @afghan-news1979
    @afghan-news1979 3 дня назад

    the elderly used to retire by the age of 70. how are these people propped up??

  • @GeorgeSchneider8889
    @GeorgeSchneider8889 3 дня назад

    The keys were right. He misinterpreted the economic key. No one is perfect 🤷‍♂️

  • @GrossSlob
    @GrossSlob 3 дня назад +2

    More self praise from a man who's presidential campaign fell at the first hurdle.

  • @dirtyenergywar7029
    @dirtyenergywar7029 3 дня назад

    Why would Lichtman deal in "hope-ium" now when he didn't before?

  • @ATiredPeasant
    @ATiredPeasant 3 дня назад

    Lichtman is just worried about selling his books.

  • @tonylouis6072
    @tonylouis6072 3 дня назад +1

    Cenk was like "fuck everybody, that's on my body"

  • @tahmeenrahman9489
    @tahmeenrahman9489 3 дня назад

    Not sure if Allan Lichtman was talking about keys, the key system or Florida Keys. 😂

    • @ziegler0201
      @ziegler0201 3 дня назад

      he was talking about a kilo of coke

    • @ArranVid
      @ArranVid 23 часа назад

      Or Alicia Keys

  • @davidh7924
    @davidh7924 3 дня назад

    Cenk I am so glad that Musk has responded to you, that means no matter what political view that anyone has they are open for suggestions. I am still nervous that everything is to the extreme right in a few weeks.

  • @BillyChu123
    @BillyChu123 2 дня назад

    All Lichtman has to say is my 13 keys went well as Cenk's presidential bid...........

  • @42ls
    @42ls 2 дня назад +4

    Cenk says trump is a bully. But this is exactly how Cenk acted here. Treat people with respect even if you don't agree with them. Prof Lichtman may have issues with his prediction and interpretation that doesn't mean he needs to chided like this publicly and bullied.

    • @predatorsfan5255
      @predatorsfan5255 2 дня назад +2

      Litchman thinks he's better than everyone else, and constantly puts people down (reporters for example). He was also never personally attacked, and that was a huge cope statement.

  • @CAT4U2C
    @CAT4U2C 3 дня назад +1

    Money and books buy you notoriety, but that doesn’t make you a noble moral human being like give me a break puppets🎉

  • @louisalfieri3187
    @louisalfieri3187 3 дня назад

    4:54 Piers and Alan are dumbfounded

  • @BonerinSweatpants-ex7ne
    @BonerinSweatpants-ex7ne 3 дня назад

    Ok tough guy enough congratulating yourself on taking down the guy with the bad rug

  • @gailhawker3055
    @gailhawker3055 3 дня назад +4

    CENK WAS SO RUDE

  • @ibrahimraad3897
    @ibrahimraad3897 3 дня назад

    They are representing their 'base'.

  • @christopherwhull
    @christopherwhull 3 дня назад

    Policy is #1. Taking yes for an answer from the right, Bernie might want to listen. Listen to him, most of us on the right dont love trump, but we love a a vessel for our position. That there is someone to be attack dog vs the swamp is amazing turn of the path we were on in 2012.